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Redux: Dark Fantasies, Part 1

2024/8/31
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@Cheryl Strayed :分享性幻想可以增进亲密关系,即使内容令人尴尬或羞耻。她分享了自己的性幻想经历,并分析了幻想内容背后的心理机制,强调了坦诚面对和接纳的重要性。 @Brian :在节目中并未直接表达观点,但通过与Cheryl Strayed的互动,可以看出他支持并尊重伴侣的坦诚表达。 @Dr. Ian Kerner :性幻想是正常的,即使是禁忌的性幻想,也可能具有重要的功能,例如帮助女性减轻压力和焦虑,获得性满足。性幻想可以是探索禁忌、处理创伤、获得心理刺激的一种方式。建议将性幻想视为盟友,而非敌人。他还建议,如果性幻想导致极度痛苦,则需要寻求专业帮助,并选择合适的性治疗师。在与伴侣沟通方面,他建议尝试逐步地、间接地分享性幻想,例如先分享一个关于伴侣的性梦,再逐渐深入。 @Fed Up With Fantasy :长期被禁忌性幻想困扰,无法在与男友的性生活中获得满足感,并为此感到焦虑和羞愧。她希望能够摆脱这些幻想,并与男友建立更紧密的连接。

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Why are incest fantasies considered common, and what do they reveal about human sexuality?

Incest fantasies are among the most common sexual fantasies, often rooted in taboo and forbidden desires. They allow individuals to explore socially unacceptable attractions in a safe, imaginary space. These fantasies are not necessarily linked to trauma but can reflect the brain's need to deactivate stress-related areas during arousal, enabling pleasure. They also highlight the complexity of human sexuality, where fantasies serve as a psychological tool to navigate boundaries and desires that cannot be acted upon in real life.

How can sexual fantasies help individuals process trauma?

Sexual fantasies can serve as a mechanism for converting feelings of powerlessness and pain into pleasure and control. For survivors of sexual trauma, fantasies may provide a way to reclaim agency over their experiences. By reimagining traumatic events in a consensual or empowering context, individuals can transform their relationship with past pain, using fantasy as a therapeutic tool to heal and regain a sense of mastery over their bodies and emotions.

What advice does Dr. Ian Kerner offer to someone struggling with shame over their sexual fantasies?

Dr. Ian Kerner advises reframing fantasies as allies rather than sources of shame. He emphasizes that fantasies perform a vital function by creating psychological arousal and helping individuals experience pleasure. For those feeling distressed, he suggests exploring the underlying reasons for their fantasies without pathologizing them. Additionally, he encourages open communication with partners, using techniques like sharing 'sexy dreams' or reading erotic literature together to build a psychogenic bridge and deepen intimacy.

What is the role of fantasy in long-term relationships, and how can partners navigate sharing them?

In long-term relationships, fantasies can enhance intimacy by introducing psychological stimulation and novelty. Sharing fantasies requires vulnerability and trust, as it involves revealing deeply personal desires. Dr. Kerner suggests starting with small steps, such as discussing a 'sexy dream' or engaging in side-by-side activities like reading erotica or watching ethical porn together. This gradual approach helps partners build a shared language of arousal and fosters a deeper connection without overwhelming either party.

How does societal stigma impact how people perceive their sexual fantasies?

Societal stigma often leads individuals to pathologize their fantasies, viewing them as abnormal or shameful. This stigma can create anxiety and distress, especially when fantasies involve taboo or socially unacceptable themes. Dr. Kerner highlights that fantasies are a natural extension of human creativity and desire, and they should not be judged based on societal norms. Encouraging a sex-positive perspective can help individuals embrace their fantasies without guilt or fear of judgment.

What is the difference between fantasy and behavior, and where should the line be drawn?

The line between fantasy and behavior is drawn at actions that cause distress, harm, or violate the law. Fantasies are a private, imaginative space where individuals can explore desires without real-world consequences. However, if fantasies become rigid or cause crippling distress, they may indicate deeper psychological issues. Dr. Kerner emphasizes that thoughts are not actions, and fantasies should not be policed unless they lead to harmful behaviors or significant emotional impairment.

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Cheryl shares a past sexual fantasy, prompting a discussion about the significance of hidden fantasies and the complexities of shame surrounding them. The conversation transitions to introduce the main letter of the episode, from 'Fed Up With Fantasy'.
  • Cheryl shares a personal sexual fantasy involving a Super Bowl party and feeling subservient.
  • The discussion highlights that hidden fantasies reveal deeper aspects of oneself.
  • The episode introduces the letter from 'Fed Up With Fantasy,' setting the stage for the main topic.

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This episode was originally released on January 13, 2018. 

Orgies. Sex in public. Incest. These are the things that some of us think about in the dark. Taboo fantasies can be exciting, but they can also be the source of our deepest shame. In this two-part series on sexual fantasies, the Sugars read letters from people who want to turn off the thoughts that turn them on.

Dr. Ian Kerner, a psychotherapist and sexuality counselor, helps the Sugars answer a letter from a woman who calls herself “Fed Up With Fantasy.” She writes, “Ever since I started being a sexual being I’ve had terrible fantasies. Incest of every kind. Teachers having sex with their underage students. Gangbangs in public bathrooms. I cannot get turned on without thinking of these story lines. Did something bad happen to me that I have repressed so much I don’t even have a hint of it?” she asks. “And how do I make it stop?”

Dr. Kerner and the Sugars explore where dark fantasies come from and offer “Fed Up With Fantasy” ways she can share them with her boyfriend. Dr. Kerner specializes in sex therapy and couples therapy. He’s also The New York Times best-selling author of “She Comes First: The Thinking Man’s Guide to Pleasuring a Woman.”