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2024/5/17
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What is the premise of the TV show 'Dark Matter'?

'Dark Matter' is a TV show about parallel worlds and quantum mechanics, filled with suspense. It follows a man who, after being robbed and knocked out, wakes up in a different world where he has achieved great scientific success but has lost his family.

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'Shogun' is praised for avoiding large action scenes and focusing on character interactions and motives. It reimagines the end of war history through the perspective of a fictional Japanese war hero, creating a narrative that feels fresh and engaging.

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The main criticism of 'Ripley' is that the protagonist's actions and motivations don't fully engage the audience. While the show is praised for its artistic style and cinematography, some viewers feel the plot lacks the tension and complexity needed to make the protagonist compelling.

What is the central theme of the TV show 'Constellation'?

'Constellation' explores the concept of parallel universes and quantum mechanics. The story follows an astronaut who survives a space accident and returns to Earth to find her reality altered, leading her to uncover secrets about parallel worlds.

How does 'Parasyte: The Grey' differ from its original Japanese manga?

'Parasyte: The Grey' shifts the focus from a high school protagonist to a more intense and action-packed narrative, similar to the Korean drama 'Sweet Home.' It introduces a female lead with a partially infected brain, adding a new dynamic to the story.

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节目开篇介绍Apple TV新剧《人生副本》(Dark Matter),并提及赠送原著小说的活动。这部剧探讨了平行世界和量子力学,充满悬疑色彩。
  • Apple TV新剧《人生副本》(Dark Matter)
  • 平行世界
  • 量子力学
  • 悬疑

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最近 Apple TV 正在播出一部美剧叫做《人生副本》《Dark Matter》 在小宇宙评论本期节目 我们将抽三位听众各赠送一本他的同名原著小说 这是一部有关平行世界和量子力学的故事 也是一部充满悬疑的作品 欢迎和我们一起追起来 《Dark Matter》

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Thank you.

欢迎来到英美剧漫游指南,我是陆小鸟。 我最近刚刚看完的两集剧是 Dark Matter, 应该叫人生副本,副是复习的副。 大家好,我是韦杰。 最近看完的剧应该是幕府将军还有辐射, 同情者正在追。 最近这两周在追动画片时光巡逻队。 哦,好,Kin。 哈喽,大家好,我是新上任的纯路人。 然后最近刚刚看完的是幕府将军, 辐射,雷普利,还有...

辛苦宝贝。 好,韦杰我们也是好久不见了,但是他也是我们的老主播了。 然后 King 是我们的播客的其中的一个群的群友,然后因为我们最近想录一期两个月之内的剧吧,问问群友,我列下了八部剧有谁看的比较多,King 是其中之一,我就私下来问问他,这样的话我们三个就能把这些剧全都分担好了。 因为我在播客赶场的时候,聊香港电影节的时候也尝试了和许多影迷朋友来录播客,

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欢迎大家关注我们的公众号。 我们的公众号比播客要早啊, 播客是...

2019, the public number 2016 has started. There are a lot of people who are following. So if sometimes we can't record the broadcast in time, but the public number will try to push the good drama to everyone as soon as possible. Then I feel that every episode of the future should emphasize that the announcement of the small universe, we will update it in time. What good drama do you have recently? It will be edited once every few days. So if you have any drama panic, you can go to the announcement. It's a habit. Because our broadcast definitely doesn't have the announcement of the updated Qin and the public number.

Okay.

寄生兽的韩剧 绅士们 这个保留意见 还有 Dark Matter 也是保留意见 同时还提醒一下 9 号密室的最新一季 昨天已经刚刚播出 我们今天是 5 月 11 号 也是它的最终季了 第一集很好看 推荐大家去看

Oh,

This drama is very good. It's probably my favorite drama so far. I don't have any doubts. And I think it has already won the love and beauty award. I don't know how many awards it will get, but I think it has already won the love and beauty award. It was changed according to a novel. And this drama itself was shot decades ago. It should be 70s or 80s. It has already been filmed once.

But this time, he was trying to get into the story from a different perspective. This time, he didn't put the main story more on the protagonist, but tried to re-explain the story from the perspective of a fictional Japanese war hero. And in my opinion, he did a good job of changing the original material to the level of the original material.

这部剧播出了以后,当然在国内我不好说,但是在海外无论是媒体还是观众对他的口碑评价都非常高。 原来他过去就有过剧啊? 嗯,他之前已经拍过一次,我印象没记错的话是 NBC 拍的,当时他们用了一个比较创新的手法,好像是他不会播字幕。

So when the main character first entered Japan, the people around him spoke Japanese. If the audience doesn't understand Japanese, they will be like the main character, completely ignorant of what the people around him are saying. It's until the main character started learning some Japanese, he started to slowly introduce it, let the audience understand what's happening in the conversation around him. So he can make the audience feel calm.

Oh, and let's talk about some basic information in this episode. I'll say a few labels. One is that Japanese star Jintan Kouji's first time playing a male character. I did observe that fans would start discussing it every week after the update, because it's been a long time since such a drama has happened. Most of them are Netflix and the like.

我大概是...

它更新到第七集第八集,然后第九集第十集是实时追的这么一个状态。 我为什么对这部剧感兴趣呢? 其实日本每年都会有一部描写幕府时代的大合剧嘛, 但是那些剧几乎都是超过五十集的年番,然后我也集数太长了我就...

没有想追的欲望。 然后这部剧刚好是外国制作的, 就是比较短, 所以就抱着好奇看了。 其实第一集本来是想弃剧的, 但是看到结尾白人男主, 他就被捕了嘛, 然后后面就是有翻译出现, 然后就觉得特别上头, 然后就看下去了。 整体的是这么一个观感。

后面看起来也感觉这部有一点两极分化吧,现在多半评分从 8.3 掉到了 7.9,但是我本人还是非常喜欢这部剧集的,就是在我最近看的四部里也是最喜欢的一部吧。 7.9 是不是因为大结局并没有像他们想象的满意? 还有一点可能是就是晚上的一些营销号开始...

写这部剧,然后就很多人看,可能不太符合他们的预期吧。 还有一个点,我觉得这部剧的整体灯光会比较偏暗,可能是营造幕府时代没有电灯的那种状态,就即使是白天还是非常暗的一个状态。 这个角度有点刁钻,那过去的老片都应该没有什么光线了吗? 那韦杰,你是从哪集开始喜欢的? 我是从这部剧播出之前就开始喜欢的。

Right.

But after watching it, I realized that it's not like that. The charm of this drama is that the whole drama, you can say that it's because of the budget, or you can say that it's the choice of the scriptwriter. He deliberately avoided the appearance of many big action scenes. It's all about interacting with the characters, and the entanglement between the characters and their different motives to attract the audience.

So after this drama was aired, many foreign media reviews were full of the smell of "Princess" because of this reason. Because it must have attracted a lot of audiences to it. Like watching "Princess" at that time, every character simply through dialogue and some comprehensive planning behind it to promote the sense of the plot. Then I didn't talk about the plot of this drama just now. It is a historical novel that has been passed down, but it is based on a reimagining and change of the end of the war history.

The main character is a white warrior who fell into the Japanese occupation. And the main character in the book is just like the real William Adams. He never returned to his homeland in his lifetime. Someone stayed in Japan.

I was confused at first because there were a few scenes that reflected his appearance when he was old. He was lying on the bed. That was also in Japan and didn't go back, right? That was a very wonderful change. I don't know how you guys see it. You said it was the end of the season. The name of that episode is called Dream of the Dream. From the beginning of that episode, just like you said, the protagonist was on the bed of the sick. It seems that it was almost time for the funeral. Then there was a grandson who returned to England. But the next scene is that he suddenly woke up from the coma after being exploded.

It made you realize that this might be real, but it might not be real. It's just a dream. After that episode, I kept going back and forth. Until the end, you will find that it might be memories, it might be reality. It's a cross-sectional system between two states. So when I was watching the first half of the season, the audience might not know if he will return to Japan in the end. But when I watched that episode, I always saw that he has a key letter. He holds it in his hand in his old memories. But in the drama, you see him throw that letter into the sea.

到那一步你就知道他已经选择了人生的道路,然后你也知道了他老年在病床上的那一段,蒙太奇其实只是他的梦境,并不是真正发生的现实,现实是他选择了留在日本。 哦,这个 King 有知道吗?

嗯,没有太了解。 我也没有注意到。 然后再回到我们对这部剧的整体的观感吧, 我第一个认知是感觉, 尤其里边的葡萄牙人, 就是他们在这里边的设定, 就好像是在攻略世界一样, 就像虽然我没有玩过, 但我知道文明那个游戏应该也是这样子的吧, 去一个新的土地, 然后如何去点亮一个世界, 怎么攻略这个世界, 就像打游戏一样的感觉。

如果站在他们那个视角上来说,当时也就是他们是第一个发现日本的,然后也不希望别的国家发现和他们抢占资源嘛,这个视角也是让我觉得还蛮有意思的。 另外就是它整个的设定蛮有意思的,就是一个博弈的剧,所以说被说是日本的权力的游戏是没有什么毛病的,就一切都是按某种规矩来办,反文乳结也好,或日本的那种约定俗成的文化也好。

人物的关系之间的等级差异阶级差异还有比如说要弹劾一个人必须要五个人投票软禁对方还不能说是软禁之类的都是表面说一套背后里实际是用另一套来做的很难看出他的动机吧这是让我比较喜欢的一点

Right, so the ending of the whole show, many viewers will think that this is a Mufu era show, there should be a big war, but it eventually became anti-Gauss, which is also an ending without any fighting scenes. But I still think I like this ending very much, it's a humorous ending. Let's not talk about it now.

King, can you tell us? Everyone is looking forward to the war scene in the whole series. But I think the third episode and the one after that will have some scenes with swords and swords. I think it's very good. And the whole drama, what I like most is the translation between the male lead and the character. Because some words, the character may not be willing to translate to the role of the role played by the director of the day.

然后他们之间有一些对话还挺有意思的。 然后还有一段是,大概是男主训练炮队的那一段。 是我,这中间我比较喜欢的一些片段。 那就顺道说一下喜欢的情节吧。 我感觉大家应该同样都喜欢的, 应该是橘子她想要出城,但不让出城那一段吧。 喜欢的。 我印象比较深刻的就是第三集的刺杀的那个场面。 那是这个男主刚和她见面,当天晚上就遭到刺杀。 刺客。

对对对嗯然后我刚才说那个他想出城也是因为他想要证明自己被转进了嘛就搞了一场非常惨烈的争斗最后结局还有一个爆炸嘛所以就很震撼整个的这个剧情冲突让我非常的喜欢我觉得整幅剧我比较喜欢是看主角在我看来是胡勇这是我比较喜欢看他在背后操纵所有人的对象

I don't know how you guys see it, but although there are not many obvious plots, you will find that he is a very... In domestic terms, he is a very good POA person. For example, he talks to the orange, he will try to combine their motives. He wants to defeat the enemy, he will say that he is also avenging your father. There is also a Black Song, a white male lead.

她有一集不是把胡勇他们一行人从大阪救了出来,然后你们记不记得他们逃出来之后他们两个在比试游泳,然后那一集当时胡勇让男主先跳水跳了可能四五十次,才跟他开始比赛,就你们不觉得他其实有可能是自己假装不会游泳,就是自己假装不会跳水,然后故意先消磨男主的体力,然后再跟他比,这样子的话自己在比的时候就会有优势。

I

It's too bad.

尤其是结局的时候更,就是你刚刚说的,本以为这个剧是一个白人男主拯救日本,或者是改变日本的一个故事,就像寻亲记一样,那实际上完全不是。 结局的时候,千叶中信说,你告诉我一下,你到底留着他干什么吧? 然后他揭秘了吗?就像你说的,他就是想玩全盟的感觉,因为他都存在,给我增加了很多乐趣。 是,但因为这部剧我很喜欢,所以我在他播出以后,我有听提多播客采访他们的主题。

其实这一部分跟书里是有改动的。 书里面胡勇在读白的时候解释他为什么一直留着白人男主, 他并不是像剧里面描述那样好像完全是个工具。 其实书里面他解释他是把白人男主当成他少数不多的朋友, 因为他知道自己在掌权以后会处于一个很孤独的地位, 他觉得自己至少还是需要一个朋友的。

So in the book, there are times when he makes himself feel very happy. But if you look at the performance of the play, you will feel like the hero is just a tool, like a toy. But in the book, he is actually a friend who can make him happy and talk to him. So he kept him. So the play is actually a little bit of a change, but it's not a change that will affect the personality. In fact, you can say from another angle, it's pretty good. It's also quite in line with what he might do. Then we can talk about the character. Because we gave him a lot of time.

前野中信这个角色是里边最搞笑的一个吧,他第一次让人惊讶到就是因为掉到悬崖下,在水里游不上来了,就打算切腹嘛,然后觉得很有意思,后边就会发现他也是一个很会使用心机的,但是表现出来就是一个小聪明那种感觉嘛,一切都是在胡勇的掌握之中。

I'm actually quite nervous. First of all, I'm not sure if the second season will be a sequel. But if it's a sequel, I'm quite nervous. I don't know how they'll shoot it. When I was listening to their interview, there were already some bloggers and producers

主创调侃。 就是说他们之前已经看过某一些主创在根据书改编的时候可以把剧改得很好, 但是脱离了书本以后就改剧改得不行的这种例子。 然后主创当时还是很礼貌的,还是有表扬一下 2db,没有说他们坏话。 但是他们大概意思就是他们只有...

保证自己确实有故事可以讲, 他们才会同意弄第二季。 因为第一季他们做了很多年。 所以书的剧情是到第一季就结束了是吗? 没有错。 全拍完了。 是的。 他们不想就是在华诺多年, 做一局无拘而来之后, 我发现没有人看得到。 所以我觉得他们还是会好好考虑吧, 他们不会就只是为了要续而续。 所以希望如果真的有第二季的话, 他们可以讲出一些图理书本, 更好的故事。

怎么说呢?

那海战戏不就是那个白人男主他本来要被跟着对方的船走吗 但是他不干 然后跳到那个船上在大船的掩护下逃走了吗 就这一段我还挺印象深刻的 是的 就像你刚刚说的 小说的结尾本身就没有大战

So you can say that the big ending is a bit anti-Tide. You can also say that the big ending is a Chinese language assistant. I also want to say the same thing. And King just mentioned it. Although there are no big scenes in different seasons, there are a lot of small action scenes. From these small action scenes, you can see that this group of lead actors and crew, if they want to shoot action scenes, they can shoot them well.

They didn't choose to do this. I think part of it is because of the budget. Because if you want to spend more money and more energy to shoot so many battles, you may not be able to finish the story in one season. On the other hand, they must have deliberately chosen to avoid the scene of the action, but to finish the story by talking about the motives and conversations between the characters. This may be more in line with the original spirit in their eyes.

然后那个大战也让我想到了之前很喜欢的一部剧 是英剧还美剧 叫黑翻 黑色的帆船两个字嘛 因为是海盗相关的故事 所以说海上的戏都很有意思 那一句话评论这部剧就是说 好久没有得到那种一周追忆部剧的快感了 所以说就推荐大家也能够 不一定要一天刷完了 你可以去看看 我觉得挺好看的 接下来就进入下一部剧 同情者 朴赞玉的新剧了 它是继上一部是女鼓手之后的另一部美剧吧

我可以先问一下为什么大家都说这是朴瓒玉的新剧吗? 哦,错了吗? 我不知道是不是社交媒体喜欢用这个来吸引眼球,朴瓒玉是主创之一,但是大家不要忘了这部小说本身作者也是很重要的主创之一。

And Robert Downey is also one of the main characters. The three of them may have the same position in this drama. But I heard you say, and many people in the audience say that this is Piao Zai Yu's new drama. I feel that it may be because some media know that Piao Zai Yu's mystery is relatively high, so they made him the last brand. Yes, I misunderstood it like that. Yes, but let's talk about this drama. This drama itself is also based on a novel. And it's a coincidence that I watched the first part of this novel a few years ago. I didn't watch the middle part later.

但是小说当时我看那个部分我是 冰箱挺深的还蛮喜欢的 然后这一部剧播出来 给我感觉跟小说还有点不一样 它增强了很多喜剧性 我觉得你们看可能有这种感觉 它很多让你觉得很幽默 很忍惊无惊的地方 然后这一部剧它还没有播完 我也是从第一集就开始每周就追 看到目前为止

I actually like every episode. Although if I had to compare it with The Muppet General, I might like The Muppet General more. But overall, I think it's a very good American drama. It's about a double spy story in South Korea during the Vietnam War. He was a spy on the Communist Party in North Korea, but he was a secret police officer in South Korea.

I was secretly working for NATO. After the war ended, he went to the United States. A series of things happened. But I didn't finish reading this book, so I didn't know how it would develop in the future. But it was probably a discussion about the male lead in the background of the war.

还有就是战争对于越南这个民族影响的一个故事。 嗯,然后回到《挑战役》这一点, 我加深印象的反而是看完第一集的时候觉得, 确实是他拍的,我印象中好像是前三集是他拍的嘛。 然后第一集就是用倒序的剧本嘛, 就是讲讲故事突然再给你倒回来一段时间, 告诉你 48 小时之前怎样,或者是几分钟之前怎样。

《一周之前怎样》或者《两个月之前怎样》 这种倒带的形式一看就很符合 朴天宇擅长那些比较绚丽的那种情节嘛 然后迷影情节在第一集里运用的非常棒嘛 就是在电影院里进行审讯 当那个投影的那个大灯打开 照到被审讯的人的身上的时候 提问者就立刻问到底是怎么样得到的这个情报

整个过程就特别像真实的在看电影,然后镜头还会翻大到我们这个双面间谍的男主身上,都特别迷影,我就很怕被魏树君学了去。 再就是它每个镜头的切换,就比如说通过一个车轮的滚动,下一秒可能就变成了飞机上的一个窗,就类似这种很巧妙的东西,起码在前三集的里边,没有一个镜头是没有精心雕琢过的。

每一个花样都很有意思,因为这种都是电影里面会常操作嘛,所以说我觉得制作方面是非常的值得一看的。 另外就是小罗伯特唐尼在这里边的装扮,我第一集后半段我才反应过来是他,不知道你是一开始你就知道了吧? 我一开始就知道,而且我知道他把自己安排成自己会一个人试多绝。

对,然后第二集也是在舞会上,我也是半天才意识到是他,但是后来才意识到他另外一个角色。 是的,他自己演了可能至少四五个角色。 对,感觉他要走这个路线了,比那个奥本海默还要狠。 这个是作者他在改制部剧的时候作者的想法。

He discussed it with Tony. They all thought it was a good idea. So that's how it went. I really like the performance of all the characters in this drama. Wu Shanzhou is never to be mentioned. He's always beautiful. I've never seen the male lead in his drama before. But I think he performed quite well in this drama. I don't know what you think.

He often shows his facial expressions and performances in a very interesting way. I also want to talk about Tomi. Like I said, he arranged himself to play a character who has met many different types of men in the main character's life. This is the original author's own idea and arrangement.

He wanted to express that in the eyes of the minorities in that era, using their white community, although their identities may be different, but in their eyes, they actually feel the same. They all feel the same. In addition, many people said that Tang Ni's scenes were a bit too much, and it was a bit annoying. I think this is probably because Tang Ni deliberately arranged it like this. He just wanted to make you feel annoyed when he performed, so that you can feel the feeling of the protagonist.

哦,男主的表演我倒没有觉得让我惊艳吧,但是感觉还是挺好的。 主要是有许多情节,就像你说的是因为增加了喜剧的这种成分,导致没有那么紧迫了。 就我们看夜班经理第一季的时候,抖森的表演就会感觉我下一秒可能他真要暴露了。 而这里边将军让男主找内奸,但我知道无论怎么查最终男主都会变成一个理由过来,就没有那个紧迫感了。 我觉得这也是既是优点也是缺点吧。

好看。

正好在说夜班经理第二季不也是还是第三季啊忘了也要续定了吗 他好像一下预计两季哦对挺值得期待虽然第一季有点烂尾吧但是抖森的表演是很他的第一集真的好棒也推荐大家看一下 ok 那下一步就是辐射因为这个辐射我是没有特别喜欢那一种没有完全看完先让 king 来说是吧因为韦杰肯定非常喜欢的你来反驳我们吧

这个其实是游戏改编的一部剧嘛,然后我是很久很久很久之前玩了游戏,然后在看了第一集之后我自己去补了一下整个系列的世界观,然后这个故事大概就是可能就世界末日后的两百年,这是一个技能点疯狂点到了核武器的世界观,然后第一集的时候我其实没有看太懂,我以为是辐射世界观下的一些日常,后来我发现是有三条故事线展开,

这他参与确实还蛮多的。 他当时跟

Amazon signed a long-term contract. The first work they published was the one they released two years ago. I forgot the Chinese name. Was it called the World of Huaxin? It's when everyone brings a headband and enters another world. I don't remember. The World of Boundaries. Yes, and that play was cut. It was ruined. This is the second work they produced with Amazon. So they are indeed the group. Yes, I feel that the World of Boundaries, not only the World of Boundaries, but even the West has consumed my patience for Xiao Nonglan. According to Youyou, that's not entirely his original work. There's a Weibo that says so.

He's been filming Unconventional for a lifetime. The world on the edge is good. The sequel to the Western world is good. The radiation is good. I feel the taste is the same. I'm a little uncomfortable, so I don't like it that much. Then back to the one that King just said. I don't understand the motive of the heroine. I said I didn't play the game. I also watched some spoilers. Probably the heroine in the dungeon. She is a group of nobles before the world was destroyed. They escaped to the dungeon before the nuclear explosion. Then they feel that they are the hope of rebuilding human civilization.

They think that one day they can plan a perfect social model. Is that what you mean? How to say? I didn't really play the game. I only played a little bit. But I know what the plot is about. In such a virtual world, the United States and China had a nuclear war and caused the world to destroy. China didn't mention what happened after that in the game. But everyone speculates that it's already back to the 17th century. And then the United States has shown the same distance. Before the war, there was such a company called Binance Technology and other big companies.

They have already sent more than 100 shelters in advance. And then each shelter, they have arranged some people who can afford it in advance or live in the shelter that meets their conditions. Each shelter is actually a secret social experiment. I won't introduce too much here. But if you go to the history of the game, you will find that there are many different settings about different shelters in the game.

In this drama, you can understand... Actually, the drama mentions the purpose of her asylum. She's trying to develop all the residents in a very political way in such a closed environment. So if you don't know why the heroine's motive is like that, you can imagine that she has been brainwashed since she was a child.

然后剧里面也有讲到很多游戏里出现的后末日的一些组织,比如说像钢铁兄弟会啊,还有新加州共和国啊这些,在游戏里也有出现。 刚刚 Key 是想说什么? 我是想说它每个避难所其实都是有一些不同的作用嘛。

然后女主这个避难所可能就是应该算里面环境非常好的,所以她后来就是来到了地上保留了一些她之前那个避难所的一些思维方式,因为我身边也有人是很喜欢女主这个做事风格的,但是我自己可能就不太 get 了。

I agree with this setting, but it's hard for me to distinguish between his current image and the elite of the current white male and female leaders who are criticized by everyone in the film image. What's the difference between those who are hypocritical and hypocritical on the surface? Of course, I know he's pure. I think you're thinking too much. I don't think so.

I don't think so. The whole show is not that deep. I don't say I like it very much. I just think it's a good show because it captures the essence of the game. Especially its kind of humor that is not found in the game. It's often seen in the game. There are still many places in the show that are good at expressing this humor. Although many audiences may not like it. But there are indeed many conversations and many plots in the game. That's how it develops. So many people like this show because it expresses the essence of the game very well.

I also like this point.

我理解。

因为那种文明实验的游戏有好多,小说肯定更多吧,那和那个简仓有什么区别吗? 其实很多人说简仓是受到了辐射的启发才写出来的。

Oh, really? Yes, but the two dramas are really very similar. Yes, but I later learned that there are not many different types of cut-off. And there are not so many different types of cut-off. Like, there are more than 100 patients in the hospital. There are less than 10 cut-off. What is the name of the drama called? I can't remember. The Chinese novel is called Yang Mao Zhan Ji. Yes, Yang Mao Zhan Ji.

Okay, then let's move on to the next one, Lepley. It's a play starring Andrew Sikert. Its original author is American actress Patricia Hashemis, which is one of the most classic characters in Tom Lepley's 20th century crime novel. The previous movie version was played by Matt Damon and Chuck Lerner, right?

十几年前的电影了吧已经是。 当时我没有看过电影吧,但是这一次剧的改编,我的感觉是它的艺术风格很有特色,这也是很多人夸它的点。 虽然说剧情的话,只能说不太合我个人的胃口,所以这部剧我当时没有特别喜欢。 但是我能感觉到大家对于它艺术风格的喜欢,它确实很有特色,尤其是猫咪的脚印那一点。 不论是在中文的网络圈还是在海外的媒体,大家都有提到那一点是。

大家夸了很多非常惊艳的一个画面。 对,我的评价也是它的文学性和艺术性, 就摄影这些东西都比小说或者是和小说一样吧, 因为我也是一边看剧, 一边把小说也看了的那几天的时间, 我感觉这个剧很高级, 因为它的黑白,它的感觉就是尤其是在,

海上那一段血液的变化,液体在黑白这里呈现的样子,还有那个最后那个血红的脚印,可能简单的用手机看的人不一定发现那个脚印,就以为就是完全黑白的剧,不是这样子的。 因为它只是黑白的一个剧集嘛,然后它整体的观影很考究,然后我本人就是一个比较看中摄影的人,是一个加分项,然后到剧情上面,其实想看本格推理的人可能就会有一些失望吧。

Right.

This is also the reason why I don't like this drama. Because I think this kind of novel, if it attracts the audience, from the plot, it needs to do something. You want the audience to feel that although the protagonist is doing bad things, you can't help but support him. He has a special feature that will attract you to support him.

这样才会让这个主角更迷人, 会吸引你看下去。 关于这点, 我知道有很多人对这部剧有不同意见, 我只能说我个人的观感是, 我当时开始我没有感受到这种感觉, 我并没有觉得我想支持主角, 最后成功逃脱, 犯下所有罪名。 我觉得他们的表演没有完全吸引到我, 还有包括像刚刚剧情的安排, 像刚刚 King 也有说到, 就是很多这些点, 就没有做到那么好, 让我觉得我很想支持这么一个复杂的角色的感觉。 我就会觉得啊,whatever, 你就继续做吧,你开心就好。 哈哈哈哈。

我也看到一些评论说这版的雷普利比原著里边或者是电影里边嫌的没那么聪明,它是一个笨拙的雷普利的感觉,但是我看这部剧就以接受它的设定为主,我感觉这也是主创想要营造的一种感觉。

尤其是他在新租的房子里边把一个尸体从三楼拖到一楼那一段就太容易暴露了,但是他就是笨笨的这样坐过去,然后也没有被发现。 我感觉这些印象因为他足够笨,所以我反而会觉得是优点。 他许多破绽都很容易被戳破嘛,但是最终他还是化险为夷了。

But this drama attracted me because it was created through writing letters. Because he himself is a person who wants to go to Italy to steal the identity of his father and son from the United States. This is a process of stealing. On the one hand, it is to steal in reality. On the other hand, it is to steal from his parents or the whole society. The police can't find him. So he used a letter to pretend to be a son. I forgot what his name was.

给他父母写信呀,一点一点的营造自己的性格,就是越往后越看,原来他之前写的信里都会有买好的蛮聪明的地方。 他也成功的让他的父母相信了自己是一个好孩子嘛,然后最终遗产什么全都给了他,也没有什么太大的问题。 这一点我还是挺好的,我记得有一集我看的时候,我还感慨了一下这里边的雷普利很像求德洛呢,你们是没有这个感觉是吧?

没有。 没有,不知道我说的。 然后群友不也说,有一篇文章说, 他和米碳休戈是属于难搞男人的回归嘛, return of difficult man。 这雷普利这个人,他本身是个深贵,对吧? 如果简单聊两句的话。

一个方面明明是他对这个富人孩子有一点点的喜欢的 就是这部剧的当代性就展现出来关于 LGBT 相关的关怀吧 就海滩里边他们俩一起看到一些男的在那身体叠着往上爬嘛 雷普利说很有意思 然后另外的那个富豪儿子说他们都是 gay 之类的

然后后来当雷普利在家里穿他的衣服被抓到了, 他也语中心肠地跟他说, 我不是 gay,我不是 queer, 从此导致了雷普利有点又羞耻又尴尬, 又怀恨在心, 最终在书信中反而跟他的父亲说, 其实你的儿子是喜欢我的, 整个这个过程,这种腹黑的样子, 我还觉得做得挺好的, 我不知道这个方面维杰怎么看? 我倒不觉得他可能是同性恋, 我觉得他有可能是双性恋, 但是我没有看过原著小说和

老板电影,所以我也不是很

I don't know how to deal with this kind of situation in the original version or the previous version. But I also noticed what you said. In the new version, the interaction between them and this complicated relationship is quite interesting. There are many psychological descriptions in the original version. How to beat him on the ship. I feel that the process is better than the drama. I think it's one of the good dramas this season. Let's move on to the next step. You just said that it's hard to get a man. Why don't you just briefly introduce the drama of Mithai Shougo?

Oh,

OK.

下一步我们就进入到了量子力学平行世界或者是宇宙叠加的一个环节,我们来聊聊全星,这个 King 看过吗? 我没有看,因为听说被砍了。

OK. 全星另外一部剧叫人生副本。 他们两个都有一点量子相关的。 我们可以一起聊聊看。 全星这部剧它讲的是说女主是一个欧洲的宇航员。 然后他们在国际空间站发生了一次太空的事故。

After the accident, he survived miraculously. But when he returned to his family on Earth, he found that everything around him seemed familiar and different. So he started to explore the differences between himself and others. Then he discovered some secrets about parallel universes. The plot of the whole show is about this.

但是像观感的话就像刚刚我有说到 只能说不是很符合我个人的喜好 我是觉得稍微有点太拖沓和平淡了 最后没有特别成功 然后《群星》这部剧 它是闪亮女孩的主创吧 也可以算是它的升级版

本来以为是升级版哈一共八集嘛我看了之后没感觉升级太成功但是也很出色了吧在前几集来说就是展现了一个新的世界观然后讲的也是平行世界今天群里小鱼干提醒说应该不算平行世界而是世界叠加就是这个两个世界是处于叠加态的吧

We all know that in the parallel world in recent years, there are more and more explanations of quantum mechanics. I feel that he did a good job in this regard. He also invented a device and then a certain trigger mechanism led to the universe. There will be many parallel worlds interacting to find the story of communication with people in another world. That's why he's a supermodel. It's because the A world can affect the B world.

但我确实更喜欢闪亮女孩多一点,闪亮女孩也是因为她是以那种惊悚片的气质来拍一个女孩,发现自己被追踪被尾随,会有人突然出现在她旁边,后来发现那个人是掌握了某一种能力能够去不同的世界嘛,最终闪亮女孩也就是...

He found a way to overcome it. The whole story, because Elizabeth was also a horror film, so she performed well in it. Her 8th level was very perfect. In fact, the plot of the group, even the photography technique, the first five levels are also realized like this. There will be a little bit of a scary creation, but I feel that it is not fresh enough and it is not as good as it is.

But he also used a relatively new way to depict the parallel world or quantum mechanics. And if you like this play, I recommend you to watch The Shining Girl. I feel it's his promotion.

然后同时我们可以再聊到最近这周刚刚更新的一次更了两集的人生副本吧是复习的副然后人生副本这个剧是刚出来的我是刚刚连着看了两句我本来以为如果他很经验的话可以和大家推荐一下但现在没有看出太多的东西吧但前两集剧情也已经展开了

本来家庭美满的一个男主,他有妻子有儿子,有一天他去一个酒吧,回来之后被打劫,醒来发现自己处在另外一个世界,大概就是这样的一个故事,然后在本来的世界里他的一个朋友获得了某一个物理学的奖项,然后在那个世界里是他自己获得了那个物理学的奖项,并且在那个世界里他有了巨大的科学的成就。

也是一个有关平行世界的故事,也是研究量子力学的故事。 所以说有的人会把它形容成群星加上闪亮女孩,再加上彗星来的那一夜。 我不知道你有没有看过那个电影啊? 彗星来的那一夜为什么要这么说呢? 是因为它 B 世界的人侵占了自己 A 世界的故事。 因为这个小说当时也很火的,好像说十年内最好的科幻小说吧。 当然是当时的十年,我能想象那个年代有这个开创性的设定是很有意思的。

自己被从原来的世界撬走了,把我送到他的世界里了,他抢占了我的生活,我该怎么追回自己的生活,而且那个平行世界的人比自己要强大很多,因为很多技术手段和头脑,看多了以后我也觉得也没什么太多的新鲜感了吧。

但是他

她花了两集时间一直还在找答案,想不明白为什么。 我不记得哪个编剧说了,当观众已经知道答案的时候,你就不要让演员假装不知道了。 我这两集看的过程中就有这样的感觉,演员应该早就应该知道了,但是你让他强行不知道,那我们观众看起来非常难受的。 但第二集的结尾有一个很大的反转,从悬疑的角度来说我还是想要看下去的。

希望后边能够有很好的改变吧。 那你整体上是推荐的? 整体上也是推荐的,起码三星以上。 然后我还会想到另一点, 如果你有一天醒来, 你发现你自己进到另一个世界, 你会怎么办? 你会找回原来的世界呢? 你还是直接就适应呢? 就要考虑新的那个世界和原来的世界, 哪一个过得比较好? 这里边实际上他新去的那个世界, 是一个自己更成功的一个世界, 但是没有家庭了。 那我应该会去新的世界吧。

所以说它的驱动力也就很像过去的小说嘛,永远都是爱情和孩子,但是如果是现在的话,像我们之前看那个史密斯夫妇那部剧,可能就直接迎接一个新的生活就好了。 好,那下面一部剧是绅士们,你肯定也没看对吧?

嗯,对。

她父亲实际暗地里 与图平又打交道 就是把自己的地租给他们 所以说他就认识了 那一块地的地主 还是一个很漂亮的女主 就很像爆米花片的那种设定 最终他们遇到了 好多的人寄予他们的这块地 也有人想要买他们家的房子 之类的事情 但是他和另外一个女主

花钱为夷了,前几季还是不错的吧,但是后面他把所有解决的问题全用混减的方式来解决了,一点悬疑都没有了,就像独消过家家一样,所以说我是不太喜欢的,但喜欢的人蛮多。 OK,那我们就进入下一步吧,比较简单的说说寄生兽灰色部队,它是……

日漫改编的一个韩剧,讲的就是突然有一天从外太空掉到地球上好多的寄生的兽,然后他们得到的统一的指令就是占领人类的大脑,就会出现了好多寄生兽存在,然后他们会有很多的特殊的能力,目的就是能够吃人,然后当然人类也发现了这一点,开始猎杀这些寄生兽。

It's probably a story like this. The Japanese version is quite gloomy because the protagonist is a high school student. The main focus is on him and his journey. But in the Korean drama, it becomes a drama that is like a sweet home. It's a very exciting and intense drama. And there are characters who are very charming, whether they are right or wrong. I don't know how you feel when you watch it. I actually watched the first few episodes of the movie and comic.

韩剧我是没有看过的,所以我好奇韩剧和原作上的差别。 电影是日本电影了,对吧? 对,就是阮谷江太演的那个吧。 它有两部电影,对吧? 好像是有第一部和第二部吧。 对,我看了第一部,我当时也是觉得蛮还原的,还给打了高分。 韩剧它就是这样子,就是突然来了怪兽,然后就要打怪兽,然后打怪兽的部队里面有一个很有魅力的女性领导。

日漫里边男主都是那个小幼的那个男主嘛。

漫画里面是日漫里面一个不起眼的配角,是一个女性就是半边脸被寄生了,她没有完全脑子被寄生,在这里面变成了第一季的主角,她也有自己的神志,就是人类的情感之类的,虽然说偶尔也会休眠,但是漫画你要看到就是那个小右是一个男生嘛。

只是右手被寄生了嘛 是另外一个设定 然后在第一季的结尾的时候 才出现动画里面的真的男主 然后那个男主是谁扮演的呢 我忘了 是简田江辉吧 简田江辉 他有演韩版吗 就韩版的最后一集 嗯

突然出现说我们有人来找这个警事厅之类的,然后出现了一个人就是小佑,千天将会,说我能够帮你提供《机上兽》相关的更多资料,所以说第二季应该就是她来主演了,我觉得。 这应该算一个彩蛋吧。 对,就像之前韩国的那个丧尸片王国结尾的那个全智贤出现的一样的感觉。

对,但是我还是蛮期待的。 对我来说动画是难以超越的。 我没看过漫画,动画的音乐特别的忧郁,也吸引人。 然后我循环好久,今天的结尾可以给大家听听。 那个真的很适合做背景音乐,但是确实也影响人的心情。 好的。 原来你没看过这部剧啊? 对,我比较少看韩剧。 那好,接下来进入下一部就是《驯鹿宝贝》。 这部剧大概就是讲了一个来自英国的一个喜记员员。 一开头他去警察局报案,

然后说有一个女生跟踪了他六个月。

然后警察就会问她为什么现在才来,然后就开始男主第一人称的一个视角讲述她大概这过往六个月的一个人生经历,然后后来发现跟女主是她的一个饭圈的说法,应该叫私生粉,大概是这么一个故事。 也不能完全叫粉丝对吧,因为她也不是一个名人。 反正也是一种对外曝光的一个工作吧。 但是女主之前并不知道她这个人吧,还是知道了才去这个店的。

诶,这也是我看完剧有一个疑惑,就是女主第一次来这个酒吧,第一次交流的时候就迷上了她嘛,就是我的一个疑问。 诶,我以为第一集有点太远了,那应该就是女主到店里,然后她给了一杯可乐,主要是因为看到她哭了吧,很难过,女主就感觉自己被关心了。

给她了一杯可乐还是水,我也忘了。 无糖可乐应该是。 我感觉剧情里面是这样叙述的, 然后开始对她感兴趣,变成 stalker 来跟踪她, 了解她的一切,从线上线下之类的。 第一次好像是那个女主非常主动, 开始甜花乱坠的,说自己是一个律师啊什么什么的。

然后怎么介绍这部剧让大家去看呢? 首先还是如果心理承受能力差的,可能要谨慎看一点,看看大家的评论你会不会能够接受吧? 因为在群里有许多人看了三集坚持不下去了,或者看了两集就坚持不下去了。 我在看第一集的过程中也有一点,他的第一声笑声出现的时候真的把我吓了一跳,很惊悚。

因为

以往的影视作品里边都是女性作为一个被这样的对象嘛。 对。 所以我就想看男性破防的样子是什么样子,抱着这种不怀好意的心态了。 然后看了过程中,就这种看乐子的想法是没有办法满足的,因为太压抑了。 好像没有人能够真的重重找到乐趣吧,你有吗? 我看的时候其实我会有两个视角的带路啊,一个是我会带路男主,就是我被一个人疯狂骚扰。

I think I'll reject it right away. It shouldn't be like in the drama. And the second lead is that I lead my favorite star. If I don't resist this kind of behavior, I should also. In fact, I was more angry in the previous episodes. I've been wondering why he didn't resist.

抵抗呢? 就是压抑的成分会比较少吧 那后边的解释解决了你这个生气吗? 就是她一个心理过程吧 应该没有 还是码头问候 而且取得人骂她的原因就是因为 她在第一集还是第二集的结束 就已经搜到了这个女主的名字 然后并且知道她是一个曾经尾随过好多人 并且因此而坐牢的一个人 知道她是很不正常的一个人了

但是他最终还是决定和她继续联系了下去,他也知道深渊,他也要往下跳,这种感觉确实是一方面有许多人会觉得要骂他,为什么这样,那一方面想到他之后的遭遇,我感觉也是可以理解的吧。 我觉得我们应该描述一下他有多恐怖。

Right.

然后他的表情尖叫的笑声都让人毛骨悚然。 对,还有他的体格就是有一集是发生冲突的时候男主完全就是拽不动他,就是这个女主跟男主的跨性别的那个女朋友在酒吧里发生冲突,他不是起身把那个男主的女朋友压住吗,然后男主去拽他完全拽不动。

就是他体格上也是会比较健壮嘛。 对。 还有他就是会随时出现在你回家, 然后你出门的每一条道上, 然后一坐就是坐十几个小时。 对。 然后男主角其实是住在他前女友的妈妈的家里嘛, 他会假装成他妈的授课的学员, 就是伪装成另一个身份混进来接近他, 这个也挺可怕的。 对,所以你提到这里, 我就感觉他这个剧本是挺扎实的。

她是一点一点揭露除了这个女主之外的别的故事的,比如说她开始提到了她和前女友分手,住在她的前女友的妈妈的家里,这是为什么呢? 好几集后才告诉我们,原来她和前女友分手是因为自己遭到那个男的性侵还是怎样的,有一个不幸的遭遇,导致她没有办法再面对现任的女朋友了。

然后他的女朋友的妈妈是 LGBT 吧 好像群体 所以说来他们家的都是女性互助的那些朋友 他们也会很热心的去帮助男主住在自己的家里 就很关心 一点点展开 他身边还是有一些温暖在的嘛 然后回到尾随他的女主 我们发现他也并不简单 他真的是非常有经验的骚扰者了 因为后边他想动之以情 因为觉得怒斥你 不要再跟踪我 来硬的没有办法说服对方的话

He thought that the host really believed that the two were immersed in love, so he said that I would break up with you. Then the host immediately got confused. It seems that he really has a part of his heart that they are in a relationship. He said, why do you want to break up with us? Then the host used some soft words and then caused the host to lose his soul and believe that the two people are really in love. But he still sits on the long chair opposite the host's house every day. It feels like spring, summer, autumn and winter. His whole state is not good.

最终过了不知道是几天还是几个月,男主没有办法又把她带到家里。 对对对,最后又导致了对方的第二轮攻击,他没有办法就想要做证据,做证据就是想骗她说,你回头用邮件把你想对我做的任何事情都用邮件发给我,告诉我,然后今天晚上我都满足你,然后女主就回家发邮件了。

结果就后来他报警了嘛,但是没想到他把这个证据提交给警察的时候,女主其实已经把他们之前所有的对话都录下来了,伪装成他想陷害她的样子。 对,这一点就发现他真是经验丰富。 这部剧最开始吸引许多人看的肯定是因为一个男性遭到了一个看起来很瘆人的女性的跟踪者。

但实际上他不止这一条线嘛,后面就是讲了他整个的这个酒吧里面,其他工作人员也多不好。 还有他的家庭。 对,他的家庭,以及他之所以无法拒绝跟踪他的人,是因为他过往就是有另外一条线,让许多人都很心酸嘛。 就是因为他有一天遇到了一个想要提卸他的人。

把他带到家里,本来以为是教他写剧本,但是主要的事情就是带他一起吸毒,并且在他迷糊的时候性侵他,他已经不见多少次了。 许多人生气的在于,因为第一次他发现这一点,为什么以后还要再来呢? 我觉得一方面还牵涉毒瘾,一方面他牵涉的,他从来没有得到肯定。

嗯。

还有这个剧大家比较难看下去,其实是男主他出演的喜剧,我不知道你能不能 get 他那个笑点啊,我自己看是觉得有一点尬的。 我和你是一样的,我也不觉得他做这些道具有任何好笑的地方,我感觉这也是他自反的一面嘛,好像在最后一集的时候他吐槽过这个道具喜剧的。

I think we should look back at this female lead. Because this female lead's image was later flipped by netizens. She is a certain person. Her Twitter account or what account was flipped out? Today we just saw that she has already accepted an interview of a certain TuoKouXiu. She accepted the media a few days ago and said that the original character in this drama is not me. I'm following someone else, so it's impossible for someone else to be. And this time she was in the interview video.

I think he said that, explained it like that, and it's more like the image described in the drama.

但是我也不知道真实的程度是多少,感觉事情还会往大了发展吧。 还有评论区说这个主持人,男主持人态度太不好了,接下来你就 stalker 他吧。

其实女主这个形象会让我想到一部叫《微情时日》的一部电影, 然后她也是作家被粉丝囚禁, 然后逼她写自己想看的小说。 我觉得这两部有一定程度上的相似。 《微情时日》不是史蒂芬金小说改编的吗? 对对对。 对,那个也是很惊悚,是有相似的感觉的,但是... 然后我还挺想聊一下她家里这一条线的, 其实她家庭情况,然后...

这一句话非常隐晦地暗示过了爸爸其实也是有性情经历的。 对,这一句话就包含太多了,他父亲小时候也是被人家审复性侵的,然后他妈也是没想到他爸能说出来了。 对。

这也是我喜欢这部剧的原因,就是它遭遇的一切一辈子都不会好了。

Right.

都给他无限的支持和善意,这是这部剧传达出来的,我感觉是非常重要的一点了。 对,后面是一个自我和解的一个过程。 对,伤害实际上永远都不会变的,身边有爱才能够挺过去吧。

OK.

那今天这期节目就到这里。 OK。 谢谢 King。 感觉怎么样? 比想象中的度的短, 因为我平常听播客都是你们两三个小时嘛, 今天只录了一个小时。 哦,那这个感觉也可以现在说一下, 就是我们播客有的, 尤其是一次聊好多句的节目, 如果不是年终盘点的话, 我们就不做了。

希望大家都能理解吧。

谢谢大家,拜拜。 拜拜。 拜拜。 拜拜。 拜拜。

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