0:52 Jason intros Eric Ries and they discuss how things have been since shelter-in-place started 8:33 What good will come out of this? Will UBI proponents like Andrew Yang be proven right? 10:12 Eric's advice to today's founders after living through the 2008 recession & the dot-com bust 15:53 Eric describes the obligations of leaders during a crisis of this magnitude, what the test-and-trace method is and how it's effective 25:02 Do authoritarian countries have an advantage in handling outbreaks better than democratic countries? 28:45 Jason & Eric reminisce about 2011 in startup-land 30:38 Tactical advice for Founders in an economic downturn 39:52 Eric explains what he is doing to help at: https://schoolclosures.org/ 44:11 What is the Long-Term Stock Exchange? 48:57 Thoughts on private companies giving equity options to contractors 53:00 More tactical insights for founders: handling layoffs, figuring out new revenue opportunities, capitalizing on silver-linings, extending runway, etc. 1:01:01 Amazon & Lyft partnering to help each other, Bird's layoff approach, extending runway by trading cash for equity 1:12:21 Eric's thoughts on the future of capitalism