He's the host and producer of the weekly podcast Chatter that Matters and he's been a frewuest guest on my podcasts and radio shows over the past 10 years or so! Tony Chapman always ponders the second thing that comes to mind and this week he posted a provocative piece on the state of political leadership in Canada. He joins us to talk about our transactional approach to the voting booth. Oh ya...and he takes a moment to boast about the newest addition to the Chapman clan!