Usyk UNDISPUTED… Fury INFURIATED… City FRUSTRATED…
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Hello, hello, hello. Happy Sunday, everyone. Welcome to another Andy Goldstein Talksport Daily Podcast with me, your host, Andy Goldstein. I'll be back, of course, on drive time on Monday, 4pm, alongside Darren Benn, otherwise known as Christmas Eve Eve. Now, there's only one place to start today's podcast, you think? And that's over in Saudi Arabia, as Talksport brought you live coverage of Usyk against Fury 2, as we found out who became the unified heavyweight champion of the world.

This is the one you've been waiting for. Oh, big left hand from Usyk. Fiori takes it. That's another one. Fiori on the back foot now, back pedalling, and he's in trouble. We are on the edge of our seats. Fiori misses with a right hand and takes a big left-hand counter from Usyk. Great work from the champion. The action here with this heavyweight contest

is absolutely on fire. It's a fantastic, fistic chess match. Everything we wanted. Well, it takes two to tango to make a real fight. And across two fights, that's precisely what these two have done. Still undefeated, still the reigning heavyweight champion of the world from Ukraine, Oleksandr

Unbelievable 24 round for my career. Thank you so much. For me, he belongs alongside the likes of Amanda Holyfield. I think in our time, Holyfield's the only guy for me who stands comparison. Holyfield didn't beat

giant like he has. He didn't beat Lewis. But he became a four-time heavyweight champion of the world. He completed all the great things. He's...

Usyk belongs in the top ten of the greatest heavyweights. Listen, without a doubt, Usyk's in the top five of the greatest heavyweights through what he's achieved, because he's cleaned up the modern era. He's beat Daniel Dubois, he's beat Fury twice, beat Anthony Joshua twice. He's undisputed cruiserweight, undisputed heavyweight, not forgetting the World Boxing Super Series Cruiserweight titles as well. The guy's done everything. Frank, you've been very public already.

um you're very unhappy with the eight four scoring different rounds for the three judges um what's your are you gonna appeal it or anything i can't appeal it we're gonna build i mean it is what it is it's the facts of the matter is one judge did not give tyson a round from six onwards how can that be is he blind and then the other two judges each gave him one round from round six onwards

What fight they watching? I'm sitting next to Oscar De La Hoya who's a neutral, who had him winning by three rounds. I thought it was at least three rounds. Bob Arum had him winning by more than that. Everybody along that row there and Usyk's people were sitting there and I'm telling you, they were despondent.

Is there anything you can do about it then? I mean, obviously, Alexander... I feel for Tyson. You know, both fighters sacrificed a lot. They trained very hard and give everything they've got. But, you know, that was never the score in a million years. Never in a million years. Are you going to let Tyson settle and not hassle him about what he wants to do? I don't care with anything with Tyson. I mean, I'm a gun-seeing man in a dressing room. It's a liberty.

And you put Daniel Dubois in there afterwards and he got into- He got in the ring himself. Did he? Well, he's hungry, isn't he? Of course he's hungry. He'd like to fight Usyk. He'd like revenge over him.

It's a very, very wider margin than we anticipated, but they liked the work of Oleksandr Usyk and you can't argue with that, Spencer. No, you can't. I mean, listen, the right man won the contest. I think Usyk won it. I thought it was closer than that, just maybe a round or so closer than that. A couple of subjective scores there. Interesting, all the judges come out with the same score, but look,

The right man won there, John. I think that's fair to say. Usyk, we always had him in front, didn't we? I think it was one time when we had Fury one round up. But Usyk always seemed to just have that little bit more, as we predicted, before the contest. Talk Sport Daily. On to the Premier League now. And yesterday you saw a big old day of action with Jamie O'Hara and the fun boy Jason Gundy taking your calls after the game. Left footed shot and finishes it. Brilliant.

It's a fantastic moment for Morgan Rodgers, who didn't make it at Manchester City, but he's definitely the villain of this piece. Before this current run, Manchester City never lost, now it seems to be happening every week. Villa 2, Manchester City 1. Swings the ball into the area, looking for the run of Isak, and Isak scores! 26 seconds gone. There could be a chance for Anthony Alanga inside the box, and it's a second goal for Manchester City!

for Nottingham Forest. Well, when you look at a team that have come here with the home form that Brentford have got, Forest have a huge task ahead of them, but they're making it look pretty easy. Forest heading up to third just in time for Christmas. And an equaliser, West Ham 1, Brighton 1. Mohamed Koudas has got the Hammers back on level terms. Finds Isak in front of goal, toe pokes it in. Brilliant.

Brilliant finish, a hat-trick for Issa, Ipswich nil, Newcastle United four. Palace won Arsenal five. Arsenal have been really good tonight, scored goals from open play, Jesus has a couple and now Rice have scored probably their best goal of the game. Palace won Arsenal five.

Poor old Crystal Palace. After losing to the Gooners in midweek, they then faced the Basileus Park in the late kick-off. Let's hear from Mikel Arteta and Oliver Glasner. Five years in charge and your team marked it with a goal for every one of those years.

Yeah, that's the coincidence that happens in football, but a good one because I'm going to have a much better Christmas day. You're in this title race, aren't you? People like to keep talking about you maybe wasting an opportunity this year with Man City falling away, but you're very much in this title race, aren't you? Well, we're going to certainly try. We're not even halfway yet. It's too early to assess, I mean, but...

the competition, the quality of the teams, the difficulty of very much is making like this is happening tomorrow and it's still six months to go. So, calm down. And finally, with Bakayo Sakazinji, I appreciate you won't know until maybe even Monday or Tuesday how bad it is, but...

Are you now maybe thinking about, even if it isn't that bad, giving him a bit of a rest over Christmas? Because, I mean, he does seem to play literally every week. Well, he has some rest as well because he didn't go with the national team three days ago. We only played in less than 45 minutes. I mean, we are trying, but the schedule is what it is. You have to play games every three days and we have the players that we have. The crosses, we defended the crosses, terrible.

And four goals started with crosses. And then, you know, we have tall players on the pitch, but we have to mark them and not watch the ball. And this is what we did in these situations. And, yeah, Arsenal.

I said again, it will be easy.

If the particular one is just a manager, we're busy. If the particular is two or three players, we're busy. It's not about that. It's always about all of us, our best, and the situation is difficult because we don't have... You know, when we won triples, quadruples, and all the records that we broke in this country, it's because we were 90% of the squad ready, you know, because you can... Otherwise, you cannot compete in all competitions. We won four caravans in a row because you have all the players available to do that. And in that moment, we...

I'm not saying that is the reason why. It's one of the things, a lot I'm saying, but the reality we are not winning games, we are losing games and before we were able to do it and I have to find a way, I'm not able to do it. This reminds me, I've said this for quite a while now, reminds me so much of what Jose went through in 2015, right?

where everything Jose touched turned to gold, one way or another. Silverware or something. He knew how to get out of a mess. That season, we were in a tailspin, all right? This reminds me so much of it. And I'm not sure quite right now that Pep knows how to fix it or even...

What is wrong? There's so much wrong with City. Defensively, they're so open. Attacking-wise, they're not creating anything. Chase, they should have been 1-0 down after 15 seconds. Durant's in on goal. They're all over the place. There's so much wrong right now. I know people will point at Rodri, and that's fair, but the reality is there's so much up the top of the pitch, they're not creating what they used to. The other

other end, they're so open. Even the manager's getting sacked or appointed, he's always been like that, sitting. We are a bit of a zany club like that. So we'll just see. I mean, I think with Pep Guardiola, I just think at the moment, he's got to obviously, the Everton game's huge now because I think one thing, it's one thing getting a beat away from home, but when you start losing your home games and your home form goals, that is not good. So... He ain't losing to Everton, come on. Well,

Well, we just don't. I think, me personally, and I hope it doesn't happen, but I think if we do get beat by Edwin, and it's the manner of the defeat, James, wanting it in B, but if it's a bad defeat, I think it may work. Not, because I want two strikers and playing one or another. And, of course, my challenge is to play with both. Of course, hopefully, we can keep their...

Talk Sport Daily.

Totsport 2 brought you live coverage of a game you couldn't watch anywhere in the UK as Ipswich got smashed at home 4-0 to Newcastle. Kieran McKenna and Eddie Howe were in different moods as you would imagine after the game. Brilliant finish from Alexander Isak. Improvised so, so well. A hat-trick for Isak. Took his goal so well today. He's got that coolness in front of goal, that calmness that...

sets him apart, I think, and he's got a little bit of everything else in different departments. Delighted that he's scoring. We need him to score. We need him full of confidence and belief and we need to get him the ball as much as we can in those attacking areas. It comes with a slight problem, though, doesn't it? Because the January transfer window opens in January. Are you confident you can hold on to someone of that calibre?

Yeah, I am. I think we're trying to build. I say many times every transfer window that comes around, we're trying to build. I think this window for us is probably more about getting the best out of the players that we have rather than looking externally. I don't see us doing huge business in Cummings.

So, yeah, it goes with that saying we want to keep our best players. It was certainly a tough one, that's for sure. The game got away from us, there's no doubt about that. In a way, that hasn't happened very often this season. It didn't happen very often last season. It did happen, I think, that we had Leeds away last year with the majority of the group that were here today and with some players missing who we had that day. And that game got away from us and that's...

It can be the level of the opponent sometimes. It's the first time in a while that it's happened. We need to take the lessons from it really, really quickly. That's what we look to do over the next few days and get ready for the next games.

I wonder what Thomas Frank and Nuno Espirito Santo made of it all. We have to enjoy the moment together. It's a journey that we are every day. So there's no happiest moment that when you finish the game and you see your fans singing. That's what makes us so proud. Manchester United away, Aston Villa at home and then Brentford with how good they've been at the G-Tech. You've had some big results this season, but...

That run of games, to get nine points, how big an achievement is that in your season? It's good. It's very good. It's very good because you're talking about very good teams. And if we are able to compete against them equally and achieve something, it shows that we are improving. What a performance, mate.

It's got to be, do you not think now it's got to be real talk of Forrest making European football? Like you said, it's not a fluke. 17 games in, it's not a fluke. Did you expect this, Luke, with Nuno? I mean, last season he'd done all right, but this is ridiculous.

Yeah, I think when the appointment of Nuno came and replaced us somewhere like Steve Cooper, it was always going to be hard. And I think he did well to keep us up last year. But this year, he's probably one of the best managers in the league, is he not? Of course, I would definitely prefer to have a full available squad. We just looked at the injury list before the game. The coaches, we had nine. And then, let's say, seven of them were...

or is good players that could help the team. But I still think we really put a really competitive team out there today. So if you look at the game overall performance, yes, it was not firework, but you're still solid in many, many ways against a team that is now what, four? There were four before? Third. So if you look at that game and how we performed,

It's not like we were outplayed today, I think, in many ways. I think we were on top in many moments and then the key moments, unfortunately, they were on top today and we weren't. So, play that game again. I'm pretty sure that we can win it.

Yeah, disappointing result for us. I think the team deserved more, especially the second half, but in the end...

One good half is not enough to win a Premier League game, especially at West Ham. We have to set our standards higher, we have to invest more to get out of the circle of bad experience. You need to keep a clean sheet. We need to invest, everyone, to keep the clean sheet. It's not only offensively or defensively, because in the end you defend together, you attack together, and then we have to win back this defensive ability, and we weren't able today to keep the clean sheet.

Not an individual thing, it's a group thing that we have to improve? I think that I have to see the match but I think that in the first half we have very clear situations, above all one cut back with Lucas, very clear, or the two cut back with Jarrett.

But I think that we can and we have to improve a little bit to defend better with the ball, to be more calm and to be able to mix better the long passes with the short way to play. But in the end, I think that it's not easy to play against this kind of team.

Sometimes we did well, sometimes not. But in the end, I think that he has been a very qualified match against a very good team.

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And on to today, and there's a big one in North London.

This job is the hardest job now. In any walk of life, when you say 'politically', this is harder than any job. Harder job than the Prime Minister? I mean, how many times... He has an election, whatever he is, I have one every weekend. It's a good job he doesn't face an election every week because, I mean,

He was going to have one tonight, I'm not sure he'd win the popular vote. Amad Diallo's corner, into the near post, it's in, it's 4-3. Absolutely bonkers game of football. Panic stations, like the whole team, panic stations. Liverpool are contenders once again and on more than one front. And it's Liverpool, the holders, that are through to the semi-final. Let's see how we will do, what decisions we will make in January, January, February. How has he scored that?

How on earth has James Madison made that 5-0? Show up and be fantastic, brilliant, and it's just the consistency. And Mo Salah was the hero, and Arnaud Slot is a very happy man. I think they've got a great chance now because confidence is up. They've got a good, healthy squad. Competitions for places is there. You can only take away points from these teams if you have a lot of quality yourself and you have a good game plan.

Yes, you can hear updates from all of today's Premier League matches on TalkSport, including Spurs against Liverpool. But over at Old Trafford, United take on Bournemouth and Ruben Amrim was asked what it would take for Anthony to get back to his best. Probably a move, I imagine. He needs more confidence. If you remember Anthony and I played against him in Ajax, he lacks a little bit of confidence to go to one against one. So he will improve. But he's working really hard and he's trying and he's playing more inside than outside the

especially in this game. And you just have to do that, to work really hard, and that will help him to be a better player. Well, that's it, guys. Thanks for listening on the TalkSport app, wherever you get your podcasts from. I'll be back on Monday, 4pm, on Drive, alongside Darren Bain. In the meantime, thanks for listening. Have a good day, and I will be safe, everyone. Be safe!

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