Bruno Fernandes' red card was damaging because it was his third of the season, he was the captain, and it happened just before Manchester United needed to chase the game. It also highlighted the team's lack of discipline and confidence.
Andy compared Anthony to a bad horror movie director because Anthony has consistently performed poorly, making a 'proper talent out of being bad' and being predictably disastrous, much like a director known for making terrible films.
Pedro Neto's behavior, where he went down clutching his face after a legitimate challenge, disrupted Chelsea's concentration and momentum. This moment allowed Wolves to regain control and score the equalizer.
Wayne Rooney's results at Plymouth Argyle are causing concern because the team has been consistently poor, losing several games by large margins. His managerial decisions and the team's performance have not shown significant improvement, and the club is struggling in the Championship.
Fulham's performance against Chelsea reflects Marco Silva's management because he pragmatically changes tactics and manages his resources well, especially in big games. Despite Chelsea's dominant form, Fulham managed to score late and secure a win, demonstrating Silva's ability to lift his team for crucial matches.
The missed penalty by Erling Haaland significantly affected Manchester City's confidence. After the miss, the team's performance became listless, and they struggled to find goals despite beating Everton's full-backs. The celebration of their first goal also indicated their fragile mental state.
Nuno's consistent form at Nottingham Forest is seen as a positive story because he has effectively brought together a team that is functioning at a high level. Many players, such as Hudson-Odoi and Chris Wood, have resurrected their careers under his management, and the team's holistic approach is evident in their performances.
The fog at the Chelsea vs. Fulham game was compared to a horror movie because it created a dense, eerie atmosphere that made the match difficult to follow and added to the sense of unease and tension, especially as Chelsea struggled to maintain control.
The hosts thought a win against Everton should have been easier for Manchester City because Everton is considered one of the weakest teams in the Premier League. Despite this, City struggled and only managed a 1-1 draw, which was further exacerbated by their listless performance after Haaland's missed penalty.
Liverpool's recent form makes the Premier League more interesting because they have extended their lead at the top, winning 22 games in a row. Their ability to turn around games and their dominant second-half performances contrast sharply with other top teams, creating a compelling narrative for the season.
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The Fulham bench has emptied in celebration. Welcome to the Football Ramble preview show brought to you by LiveScoreBet. It is Friday, 27th of December. I'm Pete Donaldson. I'm Luke Moore. And I'm Andy Bracknell. MUSIC
Welcome to another strange ramble, the in-between state, floating in purgatory. It's just a strange show. Christmas. Listen to it any time of the year. So strange. What's going on? Well, it's always strange, I suppose. Yeah, I'm in my cabin down the end of the garden. I've got a bag full of Maynard's licorice all sorts. And Andy, I'm not really sure where Andy is, but I know that Luke is.
Is it his grandad's house, which is absolutely lovely. I'm recording this from the only quiet place in the neighbourhood, given there's loads of kids around at Christmas, and that is my 93-year-old grandfather's study. Beautiful. Thanks to him. Shout out to Les. He just popped in earlier to get a pair of his trousers. Stop stealing your grandad's trousers. I hope he doesn't pop in again.
We might do. So just enjoy the ride. Enjoy the ride. But I'm very happy to be here. Merry Christmas again to all of our listeners. And I hope they appreciate three professionals and family men here mustering at Christmas to deliver them a show, which for them is entertainment, but for us is work. So don't forget that, guys. I need to build a doll's house that I've not gotten to, to be honest, that I promised myself. Oh, Sarah got you that in the end, did she? Yeah.
You must have a good point. In my little doll's house. I tell you what, if you are going to buy doll's houses, play kitchens, bedding,
Buy cheap, buy twice. Or buy cheap, be up at 2 o'clock in the morning trying to figure out how brackets work in a very, very difficult Chinese... Andy, I don't know about you, but I'm very disappointed Pete's not built his own there. Very, very disappointed. I mean, it's very off-brand, isn't it? Buying it from somewhere else. Words like exposed nails and tetanus were... In many ways, you record all your shows from what is essentially a giant doll's house. Yeah.
I think that's fair. I think that's fair. All right, well, let's kick into Wolves 2. Kick in, rather. Wolves 2, Manchester United 0. Pereira winning his first two games as Wolves manager. They've probably been lucky with the fixtures, Luke Moore, but you would probably say you've got to win them and you've got to win them well. Absolutely delighted to get Man Utd right in there. I haven't quite got my feet under the table yet, but I'll tell you what, this might help me out. I thought it was a
absolutely remarkable Christmas present to all of us from Manchester United I mean
Honestly, I just thought it was incredible the depths that they will plumb to their devoted fan base, even at Christmas. I thought that the way that Bruno Fernandes, I mean, maybe Andy could shed a bit more intellectual light on this than me. I'm sure he can. But the way that Bruno Fernandes was carrying on was crazy. I mean, that's his third red card of the season.
Not of his main at the time, but of the season, right? And for him to get himself sent off in that way, knowing he was already on a bookie and when they're chasing the game and while he's essentially... Actually, they weren't even chasing the game. It was still nil-nil, wasn't it? But they were obviously trying to do something. And him being captain as well. I just thought it was remarkable. Andy, what did you make of it? Well, we talked a lot on the show about how footballers who were on a bookie
ahead of the last game before Christmas might look at how they have an extended Christmas. I don't know if playing for Manchester United is such misery that you think halfway through said Christmas, yeah, I think I'll have the rest of this Christmas off. It was the case. But I don't even think it was the second booking, actually, because, yeah, it's a bookable foul just about, I think...
you know, it's kind of a nothing challenge really, but I can totally understand why it's a second yellow card. But it's just when he gets under the referee's armpit, like after the first booking, you know, that just ridiculous invasion of personal space. And...
he's almost on a booking and a half from that point really. Now, I know it plays well to be someone who's fully implicated in motivating the team, especially when they're playing as terribly as they are and not being a typical star and taking your ball home with you.
It's just not what United needed at that moment. And you kind of feel at the moment, as you say, it's almost a caricature of a bad Manchester United at the moment. So it's a little bit like, well, okay, Ruben Amarim, if you're going to be Sir Alex Ferguson, you have to go through the Sir Alex Ferguson at Christmas 1989 bit before you get there. What did you get in Christmas 1989, Andy? What did you get for your Christmas then?
I got a DeLorean. I mean, I was 26 at the time. I just think it's a really damning... If you look at some of the comments, like for Matias Cunha, for example, after the game,
He essentially, I mean, he didn't say his name, but he essentially said something along the lines of there are spaces we can explore or exploit in Man United. Talking about just putting the ball right on Onana for the corner, which of course just goes directly straight into the goal. And every time you look at them and see them play, you just feel like they're so remarkably soft-centred. They're so easily targetable. And if you also look at what Amarim's tried to do
since he's come in, they play quite differently, but the problem isn't the shape, right? The problem is the entire kind of outlook that's infected the club, whether it's like, you know,
big Jim Ratcliffe saving a 20 quid M&S voucher from some poor person or whether it's, you know, the way that they apply themselves on the field. It seems to affect the whole club. And I would say, actually, that I would fall short of giving Amarim too much criticism because he's coming, as I said, like the other day, he's coming in at such a busy time. And Andy, I'm sure, will back me up on this.
really do much training. You can't really know much implementation of your, of your methods because you're really, you're, you're managing load. You're warming up, you're warming down. You're keeping people ticking over. They're not doing like really rigorous double training sessions, working on shape and stuff because they can't. So he's probably as frustrated as the fans are watching it because he can't implement it. And what he's doing is he's relying upon, it seems to me, he's relying upon like individual players to,
to grab games by the scruff and they can wrestle them through like Diallo or Fernandes is capable of it on a good day perhaps. There's a thin amount of world-class players these days to sort of rely on. Yeah, but they just haven't got enough players to do it. And also, you can't consistently do that in the Premier League anyway. They can bail you out every so often, but you can't do it too consistently. And then you've just got... I know he's been a lightning rod for this, but like...
Is it not worth repeating just how bad Anthony is? I know the transfer fee just isn't his fault, and I'm not blaming him for that. But he is honestly catastrophic. He is sensationally bad. He has made a proper talent out of being bad. He's like one of those horror movie directors, right?
that you know he's just going to be... Oh, it's no point watching one of those horror movies because it's just going to be the most disgusting, like, torture porn scenes stitched together one after another. That's basically what you want to see play. Anthony is Eli Roth. Yeah, he's basically the football version of all the hostile films together. You almost want Manchester United to sort of keep hold of him because if he goes anywhere else and he flourishes...
It really is indicative of how poor Manchester United is. You've man-united so many players. Kobi Menehu, his youthful exuberance is all but absolutely gone. Yeah, true. And it's really, really gone because he was so exciting at the start of his man-united sobering. A lot of the complaints I saw when the old Radio Times came out, the TV Times came out this year, was, you know, where's the...
Where's the genuine family entertainment on TV over Christmas that everyone could enjoy? My family bloody enjoyed that yesterday. Everyone. No one had a bad word to say about it. I don't know. I think it used to be quite interesting and quite fun watching Man United fail because, you know, a massive global brand dominated football for generations. But now it's like...
It's quite uncomfortable viewing. It's like a Greenpeace video. You know what I mean? An expose. Watching another chicken getting fed into a big machine. Oh, sorry, Ruben. You're next up on the chopping block. It's awful. But I mean... I suppose the worst thing for them is that they haven't even got that role anymore. Manchester City have stolen it from them. Yeah.
They've outmaninated Man United, the noisy neighbours. They're just two crappy neighbours. They're not even a focus of schadenfreude, are they? No. Because there's just other bigger fish doing it better. But the... It may not have found us listening to this, if they are still listening, would probably say, well, you know, we had some shots, we ventured forward, we had about the same amount of possession. First 20 minutes, they controlled it. Yeah, we started okay. And obviously the fact that...
Wolves score so late when you're not at a chase in the game. You could, you could possibly argue, you know, at least they're chasing the game. They're trying to get something out of it. It's pretty thin gruel for a team that planning against a team who've already had to fire a manager because they've been so bad. And, and really, I can't stress this enough. I don't have any particular dog in the fight. I don't really care about either team. Uh,
But all it really takes these days in the Premier League to beat Man United is just to try quite hard. That's really all it takes. And that is the most damning indictment you can level at them, I think. Yeah, and I think that's it. Like, when they were chasing the game, it was all a bit witless, really. It felt like it would have taken a wolf's mistake for them to get back into it. But yeah, I guess the concern is that, you know, even the...
You know, the players who you know have something. There's such an atmosphere over the place and such a lack of confidence really over the place that even, you know, Harry Maguire, you'd think he'd be in his element against Jurgen Strand Larsson and Strand Larsson really owned him for the entire game.
But I don't know. Two things really, really struck me from it, from a Manchester United perspective. Firstly, it's bad enough at the moment that you think...
Yeah, this idea that I had last season about them using Eric Ten Hag as a human shield. Could they have not toughed out the difficult bit of him still being put up with this? And maybe Ruben Amorim would have really benefited from a pre-season rather than being parachuted. Yeah, rather than being parachuted in the middle of this mess. Absolutely, Pete. The second thing as well.
is I have no qualms with the legitimacy of Kunya's goal. What was annoying though is, well, Amarim kind of clutching at straws by going, oh, well, you know, there were some Wolves players stood next to Inanna rather than like we didn't defend it better. But also Wimbledon scored pretty much exactly the same goal in the 94th minute against Swindon and it was disallowed but for a foul.
by a League 2 referee. That is surprising. Absolutely shocking in that league. I mean, speaking of goalkeeping, Joseph Sarr is back to being a goalkeeper again. I thought he played really well in this match. He had some saves to make, didn't he? Gomez was doing his best to gift Man United a couple of chances. But Wolves looked pretty good. I know, like we said, they had a couple of favourable things to start off. But yeah, really, really good stuff. They looked like a completely transformed side.
Yeah, I'm thinking on death row, Kunya is my favourite version of Kunya, isn't he? You know he's going to get banned at some point, but in the meantime, he's just doing everything. He's on like a Premier League supermarket sweep, isn't he, really? But that's the kind of role he's best in.
you know, wherever he's been at, whether he was at Leipzig when he first came to Europe and he was really frustrated or when he was at Hertha who clearly weren't much cop, there's this sense of, you know, this total belief that I am the best player in this team and everything has to go through me. And when it works, it's brilliant. And we talked about how Vitor Pereira for all the...
other stuff around him like his job would be to sort out the defence and he felt he could he could do that admittedly against Leicester in a not great yesterday Manchester United but you know straight away he has stopped them making daft mistakes that are costing them goals and that's a real upper also he didn't stop writing for the entire game I thought that was weird
It can only just be insults that he's writing down. Just work on his insults for half-time. I mean, you have to say the third team in this match is very much the fog. Wasn't it foggy? Oh, it's foggy everywhere. It's like Silent Hill watching those zombies of Man United shuffle around. It was. It's a horror movie. It's an absolute horror movie, I'm telling you. Well, Man United are a horrific 17 points off the top of the table, 11 points off the top four.
but just eight points above the relegation zone. Yeah, some people have had more points than them at this stage of the season and been relegated before. Obviously they're not going to get relegated, but it's quite interesting to see that.
That's a lovely little final. Not in a league that Southampton are in. Not quite, yeah. Or this Southampton are in. Well, they have got Arsenal, Liverpool in the next three games and Newcastle as well. They're playing Newcastle on Sunday night. Newcastle beat Aston Villa 3-0 yesterday to make it four wins in a row in all competitions. I think the Football Rumble WhatsApp was very confused about John Duran's sending off. Yeah, I couldn't see that. What's your take on that, Luke? You were particularly vociferous about it. I thought it was a very confusing red card. I think it was a very confusing
I don't really see where the animosity was. I don't really see where else he could put his foot. It looked worse in slow motion, obviously, but in real time... Real time, it was like, oh, everyone's on the floor. It was so quick. I couldn't even work out what it was for.
until I saw the replay. You know what? Some clarity will probably... I'm sure the clarification will no doubt see me being embarrassed once again. But it felt like it was... Watching it about three or four times at halftime, it seemed like the first step was...
was more aggressive than the second because you're right you couldn't put your foot anywhere else with the second but because he'd made the decision and his ankle rolled slightly meaning that he was like he'd diagonally gone into the leg of Schreier I just felt like the first foot might have been the first foot the new year first foot might have been the thing that did him but yeah everyone was very confused about that and VAR didn't rule it
A lot of people around me at the game thought it was a red card. And to clarify, I wasn't in with fans who had a vested interest in it being a red card. Oh, you were at the game as well, nice. But other journalists, they thought it was a red card and he'd done it on purpose. But I agree. I think he's just trying to stand up. He's falling over and he's just trying to stand up. Having said that, I think...
Villa played the game really poorly. And I felt a little bit sorry for Unai Emery. Not just because he was getting a load of stick from Jason Tindall. He was raging, by the way, by that decision. He was furious. And then Jason Tindall gave him the finger to lips. Like probably about five times in a row. The last thing you want to see? The last thing you want to see from Tindall at Christmas? Emery's such a nice man. He was like infuriated. It's like, imagine...
the worst thing that could happen is if like you got introduced to your, your mum's new boyfriend at Christmas and it was Tindall dressed like that. I mean, I mean, the Newcastle shit houses are back. You're welcome. Premier League. He's lucky he's got football at Christmas because no, no one wants to see him.
I don't know much about Jason Tindall. He's always there or thereabouts, but I don't know why he's such a prick. Like, why he decided to become a prick. He got sent off at half-time, despite his team being up 1-0 and a man up on Boxing Day. He got sent off for a row with an analyst.
How do you write an analyst? Some malformed formulas. What's going on? What, are you using a mouse for your Excel work? Yeah, totally. Coming up after this, Frank Lombard had a lovely boxing day, but seriously, Wayne Rooney could lose his job.
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I certainly was, and I think you are. That's the levels that Wayne Rooney needs to get to. That's the levels in walkabout. Chelsea 1, Fulham 2. Rodrigo Munez scoring a 95th minute winner for Fulham in the West London Derby. We don't know where Marcus is. I'm sure he had a good time watching that, wherever the hell he might be. But it is Fulham's first win at Stamford Bridge in 1979. It looked all so routine, Andy, until Fulham just got hold of the game really late.
yeah it it did I'm still trying to figure this out really I
The way that Chelsea have been, you would expect them to see this out with total comfort. For some reason, they just didn't. I guess maybe that was their Christmas present to Enzo Maresca, underlining that he said, we're not going to win the title. We're not genuine title contenders. Here's why. Because if you are a title contender, you just see that out. And I think nine times out of 10, they would have seen that out with...
with total comfort, but they just didn't defend well enough to do so, really.
Yeah, I mean, I mean, Cole Palmer's opener, he just sort of streaked through, took it past two players and slotted it home. And it was a very, very routine. And to be fair, Fulham tried to do that exact same thing about five minutes later, but it didn't didn't quite come off. It was quite satisfying, I think, for Fulham fans because of two of Marcus Silver's subs who'd scored the goals for Fulham. And that is kind of a
what Marco Silva brings to this Fulham side. He's very pragmatic and he knows how to change up. He knows how to sort of manage a game and manage his resources over a really busy period. But I also think he...
what they're amazing at for them is really lifting themselves for big games. It's almost like a reflection of Marco Silva, who to me, and this is not a criticism of him, but he seems like a very self-confident, kind of almost arrogant guy. And I've been to Fulham, you know, I don't know, 10 times over the last couple of seasons and,
And the best I've seen them play has been against when the, basically when a big team comes to town. Now, what's kind of more interesting about this is that, is that obviously it was away from home and,
But, you know, it's a derby game. It's Boxing Day. You know, they stuck in there for them. And obviously they score a goal very, very late on. But, you know, Chelsea are probably overachieving this season anyway. I mean, I thought they'd be a disaster this year. I have to keep reminding people of that and just being honest about it because I thought it would be really, really tough for them to blend all these new players. But they've actually been really good. And then...
after the game, Cole Palmer said, yeah, we knew we weren't going to win every game this season. You know, it's the first season with a new manager and all this other stuff. So, you know, it's given how good Fulham have been, admittedly punctuated with a couple of really frustrating results, like when they didn't beat Southampton at home or,
you know, one or two others here and there. They're having a really good season. So, I mean, I think if you're not really on your game and you're a big team, you can genuinely struggle against Fulham because they haven't lost a game for ages. You know, they're actually a pretty good side. If you turn them and you look nervy, they never look comfortable on the ball and every time they kind of slowed the game down, they looked so much better. But from what I saw, it just seemed like a really nervy performance from Chelsea and it's not...
Maybe that's just kind of personnel changes here and there. Well, Pete, the big tipping point, actually, and I don't want to get all Brexit about it, but the big tipping point was the behaviour of Pedro Neto. Now, for Harry Wilson's goal, which is the equaliser 10 minutes from the end, Chelsea are 1-0 up. They're up against it and they could see it out, you know, and win 1-0 and that'd be a really great result for them. And for those of you who haven't seen the game...
Pedro Neto tries to essentially physically match Alex Iwobi, who again, he's having a brilliant season, just gets beaten to the ball, gets beaten onto the floor, essentially in a body check, which is a perfectly legitimate challenge. In my view, is embarrassed. So just goes down clutching his face for about 25 seconds. And given that his part of his job is to cover Chelsea's right-hand flank,
and then Wobbe just carries on ball gets whipped in they end up scoring and then
And if I was a Chelsea teammate at Pedro, I'd be like, what are you fucking doing? Get up. Get play to the whistle and get up. I don't understand why he thinks just because he starts holding his face, the referee's going to stop the game. The referee knew what was happening. He was absolutely fine, by the way, netto, carried on and actually launched a couple more Chelsea attacks after that. So that really, I mean, I know it's probably splitting hairs a little bit, but that really did change the whole makeup of the game and the momentum that
So if you're going to point a finger at someone, I'd be pointing it at Pedro Neto. For what it's worth, I think it's cosmetic in both directions. Because you're right, he wasn't going to get anything out of it. But on the other hand, I can kind of see why he's done it. Because once Iwobi's passed him, he's out of the game anyway. So it doesn't have any effect on the subsequent bit of play that leads to Fulham scoring. But Andy, it arguably deflects the concentration of the other players.
Yeah, maybe. I suppose you could say that. I mean, it felt to me that Chelsea, especially as they score so many goals, got more and more tense having not scored the second one. Yeah, maybe, yeah. And especially the way they played in the first half, they probably should have had a second goal. And when that didn't happen, Fulham got themselves back into the game a bit more. But look, I felt that...
If you look where Fulham are at the moment, I know what you said about them dropping points against Southampton. But there's this sort of mini gap developing, isn't there, between the top four and the rest. The surprise being, of course, that Manchester City aren't in that top four. But when you look at where they are points-wise, Newcastle, who...
for a lot of this season not played nearly as well as they could have find themselves in fifth place and find themselves with a really good opportunity Fulham find themselves with a really good opportunity you look at Bournemouth City are in there Villa there's about one point between all of those teams isn't there you know they're really bunched up at the moment which I think tells you A that if City could find something they could salvage a conference league place out of their season and
I mean, I know it's weird Chelsea being in the Conference League, but how weird would it be Manchester City being in the Conference League? I mean, that would really make a mockery of the competition. And yeah, I think there is an opportunity for someone, isn't there? So never mind the Conference League players to get that fifth spot. That seems to be what's developing at the moment. Andy, I'll tell you who's absolutely ruining the Premier League, and that's Liverpool. If they had the decency to lose a couple of games...
I mean, say they had, say, six points worse off. I mean, it would be an absolutely sensational Premier League this season. But Liverpool aren't as convincing as they could be and how convincing Manchester City have been, you would say. No, I think Liverpool have been brilliant. They get it done. They are so much better in the second half than they are in the first half. Arnott's ability to change things around, tweak things slightly and get results out of that is amazing. They've had one anomaly this season, which was very early on, they lost at home to Forests.
since then I mean I wouldn't say they've been faultless because they've had a couple of near misses obviously didn't beat Fulham as well by the way when we're talking about them but they've been brilliant mostly irresistible I think you would say yeah it's a great review for anyone I love
That's what Pete's Tinder says, that. Certainly. Well, elsewhere, former Chelsea manager Frank Lampard had a good boxing day. His Coventry City side beat Wayne Rooney's Plymouth Argyle 4-0. It was the first time the pair had ever faced each other as managers. And let's face it, it's probably not going to happen again. I mean, Plymouth's away form, 6-1, 5-0, 4-0, 4-0, 4-0, 3-0 losses on the road.
It's not ideal for Wayne Rooney. I think he's going to be spending a bit more time
Well, in that walkabout in London that he loves so much. The thing that really cheers me is the thought of Lampard going over to the bench. Because you always wonder what they're saying to each other when they shake hands. It's like Lampard going over to the other bench and going, you lot were shit. Oh, seriously, well played though. Was he on a hiding to nothing? I'm sure we're not going to go absolutely deep as hell into Plymouth because we probably don't have that there. But was Rene on a bit of a hiding to nothing? Was it a kind of...
Was it a strange job for Imhotek? I wonder that. Because they're not very well resourced. I wonder that. Well, I mean, they beat Portsmouth. So, I mean... I mean, Portsmouth absolutely huffed and puffed for like 85 minutes against Plymouth and lost 1-0. So, but they've had... Listen, when Rooney took over...
Obviously, he's had this whole season, right? So they started off quite inconsistently. He's inherited a situation where they went through, I think, three managers last season already. So he's basically the fourth manager they've had in a year. I'm not necessarily defending, so I don't think they've been that good. But I do think it's worth pointing out that
If you're the profile, the size of Wayne Rooney going into a job at Plymouth, and I actually believe he's doing the job for the right reasons. And some of the comments he's made about why he's in management and how he realizes he got to start from the bottom are all pretty encouraging. I don't want it to be seen from people who don't follow football that closely. Oh, Wayne Rooney's gone there and, you know, he's been terrible. And, you know, it was all rosy in the garden. It wasn't rosy in the garden. They've had a really difficult time anyway. And, you know,
Maybe you could say, given Rooney's experience, perhaps he's not worth a championship job. That's kind of fair enough. I think he probably is. And I think he always knew this season was going to be hard. The championship is absolutely brutal. But it's also a really difficult league to kind of predict that.
And, you know, Coventry beat Plymouth handily yesterday, as you said. Portsmouth beat Coventry 4-1 a few days before, you know, and Portsmouth haven't been brilliant this season either. So it's kind of the lack of consistency among results is worth pointing out. But what I would say on the back of that is, you know, Plymouth have started to become consistent with their results and they've been very, very poor results. So he's going to have to do something pretty soon. But, you know,
I don't think anyone was predicting Plymouth to do anything really this season anyway. Well elsewhere in the championship Watford scored in the 95th minute to beat Portsmouth and
And Watford's Quedwell Barr was given a red card after full time for taunting the Portsmouth fans and then doing a Fortnite dance. I mean, he does go up to the Portsmouth fans. He does a Fortnite dance. And Portsmouth's goalkeeper was so angry. So wonderfully angry.
I think the enjoyment, Pete, is as you're watching the clip that someone's taken from the stand, is you just think the whole Portsmouth team are coming in three, two, one. And they arrive right on cue. But from Bas' perspective, I mean, obviously it's very childish. I personally think anyone performing a dance from Fortnite...
as an adult on the pitch should be banned for the rest of the season. Also, it's a very old one. It wasn't even the gritty. No. Come on. Andy, you spent most of 2017 flossing. We all saw it. That was a little celebration. I agree with Andy. I'm broadly in favour of players giving a bit back to fans who give them dogs a beautiful game. I think that's fine. If you're doing Fortnite stuff, I mean, I think that's very, very poor. And, you know, that's...
if you're interested in how, you know, what it's like to be a Portsmouth fan, you know, this is exactly what I'm talking about. They win 4-1, the same player scores all four goals. It's basically an absolute carnival of an afternoon at Fratton Park and everyone's like, brilliant. And all the chat in my family, everyone coming back for Christmas, oh, you know, it's good.
it's good with the start of it now. We've not been playing that badly. We can really kick on, you know, it's great. Oh, shame, you know, shame. We can't get it on the telly, you know, shame they're away. So we can't go and watch it or whatever. And, um, and then one, they're up a half time. Brilliant. Oh, everyone's getting the notification on their phone on boxing day. See that? Oh, here we go. And then something happens on boxing day. So you're like you playing with the kids or you, you know, watching a movie together and everyone's phone goes off 95th minute. I had a little beat. Yeah.
It's absolutely pathetic. It genuinely ruined my boxing day for like an hour. Just being surrounded by like an absolute funereal atmosphere from nowhere.
because of these absolute clouds like a stinking cloud of sprout gas it's just tragic well as we mentioned Liverpool did extend their lead at the top of the Premier League to 7 points with a 3-1 win home to Leicester they were unbeaten in 22 games and they play West Ham on Sunday
Sunday. Yeah, I thought, again, in a very foggy atmosphere, Peter, reminiscent of a horror movie, Liverpool good. They did exactly what I said earlier, you know, they just turned it around, tweaked it and I think the Leicester goal was a great goal by the way. I mean, really good forward play from Jordan Ayew, I mean, which is,
I know his game, I know he works really hard, but it's not really necessarily what you expect. A bit fortunate with the deflection, but then obviously Liverpool. It's just like an inevitability about it. I saw the odds of when Liverpool went a goal down. They were still like five to one on to win the game. I mean, people were just expecting Liverpool to go and do what they eventually did. And I guess that's justified because they won pretty easily. But speaking of odds, it's now time for the Football Roundtable Bet Builder brought to you in partnership with LiveScoreBet.com.
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get your bet on if you want to Peter what's your pick for this game I'm going to go for over 2.5 goals I wonder who will score most of them simply because Liverpool are imperious at the moment I just think there's going to be loads of goals in this match but none of them will go to West Ham
Fine. Andy, but it doesn't matter because it's only over two and a half goals in the game in total, right? Andy? I'm going to this, very much looking forward to it. I'm expecting to be... The fun never stops with Brassel. He's always going to football. You know what I mean? And I think you have to commit to Christmas in that way. I'm also committing to over 6.5 corners. So I expect to be up and down quite a lot.
I'm enjoying those corners. I've started to really pay attention to the amount of corners in games since we started doing this. It always seems to be a pretty good look to go after corners because I was watching the Man City game and there was something like 13 corners in that. Anyway, Vish has got the third pick. Let's hear what he's gone for. Greetings, Ramblers. Vish here. Coming to you stateside during the festive period to...
Give you my bet, which is shock. Mo Salah to score. I mean, don't really need to say much. Do I? Premier League's top scorer.
contract incoming who knows but yeah Mo Salah to score I like that Vish basically does no ramble work for like a month and then he just chimes in with a very David Brent-esque Mo Salah pick I just picked Mo Salah to score a goal and that would be me for another two weeks but yeah he's gone for Mo Salah to score pretty obvious why speaking of obvious picks I've gone for Liverpool to win the game and
which will surprise absolutely no one for all the reasons you expect. Although having said that,
One thing I found really interesting was that West Ham have been getting a lot of stick, right, for things perceived to not really be improving and, you know, what's the point of getting Lopetegui in and giving all these plays and blah, blah, blah. And a lot of people were talking about him losing his job pretty quickly on the same amount of points as Spurs. You know, they're 13th in the league. It's not outrageously bad. They've actually improved quite a lot in recent games.
And they're playing much better football Andy as well. There will be a section of West Ham fans who are so annoyed by that because I think about three weeks ago they thought Lopetegui was going and they were getting one of the most
more glamorous, exciting free agent managers that were on the market at the moment. And probably at the time where they've least wanted it to happen, they've strung together some decent results, which makes it quite difficult to sack him. Yeah, they've got eight points in their last four games. I mean, and bearing in mind that people were raging about the type of football that Moyes played. I'm just offering a different viewpoint. Anyway, in summary, over two and a half goals in this game, over six and a half corners in this game, Mo Salah to score a goal and Liverpool to win.
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Yes, Manchester City's first point since December 7th. Man City won, Everton won. I mean, it's...
One of those situations where you fancied an Everton win here. They had some late chances. Phil Foden pulled down Broha's shots to stop a late counter-attack. It was real desperate stuff from Man City. Pep Guardiola saying that the result is not good, but the performance was brilliant. Let me put that one to bed. It wasn't brilliant, Andy. It was brilliant.
It was at times fucking listless. Yes, but you know what? I think the listlessness really came on in its thickness after Erling Haaland's penalty miss. And we've talked, I guess, as people struggle to find a reason for this Manchester City torpor, more and more about confidence actually in recent weeks. And it feels to me as if all of the confidence absolutely drained out of them.
after that moment because I think it had been a presentable performance before that and they did what's quite difficult to do in their situation in that they didn't let the equaliser knock it all out of them you know they still offered they still had decent chances after that
But after the, the, the Harlem penalty missed, there was, there was virtually nothing. And if there was one team that was going to win it, it was, it was Everton. And if Everton were anywhere near, even halfway competent on the counter-attack, I think they would have, they would have won that. But Everton just are one of the few Premier League teams who have absolutely no capability on the, on the, on the counter-attack really. Hmm.
I thought it was, I love the way that Harland headed that penalty rebound in just out of duty. Like a kid who just begrudgingly put his toys back in the toy box. I know I'm offside.
This is possibly going to go a modicum of the way towards people forgetting about me missing the penalty. So I should really put it in. He was angry and having a tantrum before he landed back on the ground again from jumping for the header. It was amazing to watch. I mean, I agree with what Andy said. I would just add...
obviously Phil Foden, a player of Phil Foden's quality resorting to pulling, pulling down Armando Brogge's shorts is the only metaphor you need when stopping a counterattack. But I would add that, like to me, the big, the big kind of, um,
the big kind of bit of info to process, if you like, the big kind of symbol is that Man City do actually score, right? They score first. It's a really fortunate goal. Obviously deflected in, the goalkeeper can't really do much about it. And Pickford did have a pretty good game actually, but he couldn't do anything about that. The way it went in, the way Man City celebrated, I thought was super interesting. They went absolutely crazy that they'd scored their first goal after 14 minutes at home to Everton, right? And then compare that with,
with, say, any of the last four or five seasons, it would have just been all business. Cheers for that. Yeah, great goal. Let's get on with it. Then, of course, they do a pretty good impression of a team that don't really know what to do.
at home to Everton and then the next goal was scored by Everton and it's a great goal and then D'Angeli deserves amazing credit for the way he takes the goal because he does it in such a way that Rachel Brown finished who was doing the punditry completely agree with her she was like you know it's really difficult because he may not have been able to save anyway but he also can't set himself because there's no back lift he doesn't know how quickly the guy shoots in one movement makes it impossible and
And then after that, it was almost like all the wind had been knocked out their sails. And I just feel like if you compare that to how Liverpool reacted to going a goal behind against Leicester, it's kind of like, okay, you know, there's 80 or whatever minutes left. We'll just carry on as we're going. It'll be fine. It will sort itself out. And that's exactly what Man City would have been like a year ago. They found it. It was almost like they couldn't get out of their own way. They found it so difficult to deal with. And their confidence is so fragile now.
that they're going up against a team at home who, you know, I don't mean to be overly critical of Everton. You've had an okay couple of weeks actually, but...
Everton are really the nearest thing you get to a joke in the Premier League, right? And you're at home to them and you still can't mentally get past a one-all. Like, for Guaido to say what he said after the game, and he's probably got his own reasons for saying it, but I just thought it was, you know, it's just laughable, really. I mean, I don't mean to pile any more pressure on him because I know he feels the pressure quite badly and he's a very emotionally dead guy and he's having a difficult time of it and I get all that, but...
I mean, you can't really make any excuses for him given the resources he's had, given what he's been able to do in the past. It's a very, very interesting situation and not for the right reasons. Yeah, I mean, you look at a player like Haaland, obviously he's going to take a lot of
criticism where he's going to take a lot of something, I suppose attention, away from the other players. But that kind of penalty miss was indicative of a player who just doesn't get the ball enough. Man City were beating their full-backs and then just not really finding anyone in the centre of the pitch. And so many times this season we've seen Man City go a goal ahead and then just not really know how to put the game to bed. And it's just been... It was astonishing. I totally understand what you're saying. But if you're that kind of striker...
You're always going to look shit when your team plays the way they're playing. But Pete's right. It's a weird thing to say for someone that's been playing regularly. That was quite a rusty finish from the penalty, really.
I was no excuse for that, yeah. It was really, really unusual. But I guess you talked about them celebrating as they did when they scored. And I think that's not just an indication of where they are at the moment. But once you put one past Everton, you think you've got it made, really, don't you? You don't really expect them to come back. You should be looking back. You should never look back. And, of course, the Ndaye finish was really good. But you don't really...
you don't really expect to get that sort of opportunity against Manchester City either, do you? And yeah, it was really, really unusual. I guess this is the new reality. It is. And I think that, and you're absolutely right. And I think just to add to that,
you can see clear evidence now that any team that City come up against, you know, because if they're not playing the Premier League, they're playing the Champions League, you know, bar the odd kind of cup game or whatever, they're playing against other good teams, really. There's clear evidence now that every team who plays them just smells blood. Yeah, and I think that will particularly show over Christmas because if you think...
If you're wanting to play yourself back into form, could you have two more forgiving fixtures than Everton at home and Leicester away in the space of a couple of days? I mean, it'd be really interesting, the Leicester game, because obviously we've seen after the initial Van Nistelrooy bounce that Leicester really don't have the players to...
really give them a fighting chance of staying in the division I think as things stand they'll probably be on their 18th different goalkeeper of the season by the time that game rules that
that rolls out against Manchester City as well. And of course, there was the fact that, remember when Guardiola arrived, you know, one of the most damaging defeats in his first season when people were really getting after him and going, you're not cut out for the Premier League and all that sort of stuff that people deny saying now. One of their most damaging defeats was getting absolutely whacked at Leicester and they had a real jinx, didn't they? Going away to Leicester at some point.
At one point. I imagine that Leicester fans remember that period of time, the way that they're playing at the moment. I would say that it was very enjoyable once again to see John Pickford's exploits in
in the goal for Everton his water bottle showed that Harlan shoots to the goalkeeper's right 55% of the time he did that in this match and looking at the actual picture on the water bottle you sort of go oh well I suppose anyone could get to that part of a goal I think he's also it's just gurning isn't it it's just gurning
Oh, totally. As far as I know, there's nothing in the laws of the game about excessive gurning. But at some point, it must become unsupportable conduct.
Basically, you're in a position as a penalty taker where you go, right, don't look at him. Just don't look at his face. The thing is, I haven't seen the picture on the water bottle, but knowing a little about Jordan Pickford, I'm guessing it was a sort of Purple Ronnie-esque drawing with a little arrow on top of his head going, really cool guy about to save penalties or something. It's one of those S's that everyone used to do on the desks in the 90s. Yeah.
save the goal Purple Ronnie's a great shout I know right I mean that is a deep dive even for the 80s and the 90s I've got a Purple Ronnie pint glass back at my parents house that I actually drank out of yesterday that's still in there did anyone get any Purple Ronnie off forever friends cards over the weekend you can't still buy them surely they're all about farts surely surely
Surely not. I think the thing that disappointed me about the water bottle was that they'd clearly used normal printer paper to print it out and then they'd sort of used wide tape to sort of tape it to the water bottle. Can you not just print onto some stickers? Do you know what I mean? Just stick it on there. That's the kind of admin support you can deliver to Everton, which, to be fair, they absolutely need. I remember there was a wrestler whose lawyer printed out a...
basically an official letter basically saying this person didn't do the thing that everyone's saying he's doing, signed the lawyers in question. And he printed it on, do you know those stickers you used to put on DVDs? Printed it out on one of those bits of paper.
It was clearly for a CD or something. Oh, dear. Well, Man City are travelling to Leicester on Sunday. Everton host high-flying Nottingham Forest. Once again, a lovely, cheeky little 1-0 home win there against Spurs. Anthony Alanga on the 28th minute. They are up to third in the Premier League and Alanga scoring for his third straight game to beat Tottenham. Where are your Squid Games fellas now? Yeah.
mopping around the pitch. You could have used them away from home, lads. Come on. Unbelievable. I also feel like it's fascinating to point out that the only game Forest haven't won in recent memory is the one against Man City, who everyone's, who everyone had beaten. Yeah. So, and I understand that Spurs have got, you know, four of their, four of their first choice back five out and that's going to hurt any team. I get all that. But I do think that
It's becoming, if not quite, it may not be untenable city, but you're on the road towards there if you're Andrew Povdikov. Is there a little bit of posh Russell Martin about it? Because this... It's so one-eyed, Andy. It's so one-eyed. I understand they have a lot of defensive issues at the moment. They could defend all the players. Yeah, simply because of the personnel. But yeah, it doesn't help. And...
You could tell, like, Forrest had a few counter-attack citers, didn't they, before that goal from Anthony Alanga. And obviously, having the quality of Morgan Gibbs-White really helps because I think a lot of teams, maybe Forrest, because of Spurs' issue, are not really going to get enough credit for this. But the way they used the counter-attack was super smart. And you know what? Without Gibbs-White...
That doesn't turn into the chance that it does turn into and is very well finished, obviously. Gibbs White was brilliant and he's been brilliant most of the season, really. Obviously, there's something particularly amusing about because Nuno has been...
to such a microscopic crumb in recent Tottenham coaching history because you feel it's gone from Mourinho and Conte to the remedy to all of that misery, which is Ange. And then you have Nuno going, actually...
here's me picking apart my former team because I know exactly what their weaknesses are and I'm going to prime my team to do that. Well, absolutely. And you think if you look at why Spurs fans are frustrated and on one level it's fairly obvious why they're frustrated, right? You can see it in front of you every time you watch their team play. But...
Look at the last two permanent managers Spurs have had. It's Antonio Conte, who's delivering Napoli right at the top of Serie A. What are they, second at the moment and flying? And Nuno, who has done actually pretty well everywhere else apart from Spurs. And so if you break it down like that, you can't go within your rights to go, what is it about, almost in the same way Man United, what is it about our club that makes...
The managers that we bring in on big salaries who've got good reputations because we're a big London club and we've got an amazing stadium and facilities and we can attract these managers. What is it that makes them poor when they come here?
And that is a perfectly legitimate question to ask. And I think that Nuno deserves an incredible amount of credit for what he's done at Forest. You can see how they want to play. He's a lovely balance to the team from, you know, the great centre-back combination they've got to the fact that, you know, you talked about Gibbs White there. But part of the reason Gibbs White is able to do what he's able to do so well is because he's got Alanga and Hudson-Odoi,
pushing out wide and bringing a load of space for him. And Chris Wood, who's just all hustle and bustle with this season, added goals as well, pushing defenders back and create a lot of space for Gibbs White to do his thing. And they're backed up by two...
um two great hold'em in field play particularly elliot anderson's having a great time at the moment so it's all it all works like you see it and you go okay maybe they're not third in the table at the end of the season good but it actually works you can see what they're doing whereas with spurs it's a bit like well it's all quite predictable it's all going to go one way and even if they go a goal up they're never going to not concede because they can't help themselves and
and they're not in control at any point. And so it's just endlessly frustrating because it's like banging your head against the same wall over and over again and expecting a different result. And then to further compound it,
You've got Ange Postakoglu saying the stuff he says in post-match interviews, which I don't think he understands. Makes it even more frustrating because it's like, well, I'm telling you now that whatever happens, I'm never going to change this, which is an awful thing to hear if you're a fan.
Yeah, yeah. But if he's not going to change it, I suppose, why? Well, he'll be out of a job. I mean, part of the reason, what he doesn't realise is, part of the reason these interviewers are asking him these questions is because those questions are coming from his fan base and from the wider milieu of the football community. And they're going to cost him his job, basically. So ultimately, whatever happens now, sooner or later, he's going to lose his job and it's going to be a massive part of the reason.
But I mean, this isn't going to change, but like not in the short term anyway, but I feel that Forrest are one of the stories of the season. They're brilliant. It's remarkable what they've been able to do. And as you say, like so many of those players are functioning at such a high level, but quite a few of those players have been like treading water elsewhere. I think you look at Hudson-Odoi, Chris Wood, who at his moment where he scored a hat-trick about
this time last year at Newcastle. But if you'd have said this time last year that when everyone's fit, he would be the starting striker instead of Taiwa Awani, I don't think people would have believed you. Not off the back of that Newcastle spell. No, exactly. And, you know, I think the level that all of those players are at, you can only look at Nuno really as being the common denominator for that. I don't think, I think Hudson-Odoi possibly is, that's harsh, Andy.
Well, no, because I think you look at what was happening to his career. It was just going sideways. You know, he was a guy that Bayern Munich wanted to buy for 50 million. But didn't Chelsea block it, though? Yeah, they did. Chelsea held on to him. He didn't really do much there. He did absolutely nothing when he went on to loan at Leverkusen. And really, it felt that...
I wouldn't say the Forrest move was a last throw, but it was him going down a couple of steps or going back a couple of steps to just get some games and get himself back in some sort of form. And Nuno has been instrumental in him becoming the player that he looked like becoming when he was younger. And it's not just about resurrecting careers. It's about Nuno having a real...
holistic kind of approach to bringing everyone together the crowd the staff the players it just seems like a completely different picture to what we're looking at you know any other dugout he's a touchline hugger isn't he and he's always been a touchline hugger I love that I love that good stuff alright it's time for this Dean Smith also sold you an encyclopedia of football a what? an encyclopedia of football
I don't know what that means. He doesn't know what that means, crying out loud. He doesn't know what that means. It's Jackson's Cyclopedia. Last week, Luke beat Jim on a tiebreaker to win the Intercontinental Belt. We're back with the belts. We're back with the people who can win belts. And we also released a Christmas Day edition of Jackson's Cyclopedia.
We won't share any spoilers in case you haven't listened yet, but it was a lot of fun. Find that episode now in the usual places. It's a simple game of categories. If you go too slow, you'll hear Gary Neville's orgasm. I will test out me pressing that button. There we go. It's Torres!
I've always got to check the tech before you start. It's nice to hear it an extra couple of times. We're going to kick things off with you, Lucky Move, if that's all right with you. Because I'm the Intercontinental Belt Holder and I smashed Andy last time I played him. Is that the reason? At least read the script I wrote for you.
Yeah, well, enjoy the first round. Enjoy the first round, Luke. Every Southampton manager since the start of the 08-09 season, including interim and caretaker managers. Every Southampton manager since the start of the 08-09 season. Interim, caretakers, you're going to have the lot. I absolutely, totally resent having to write all these down. Because I'm in a household of a very serious Portsmouth fan. I don't want him seeing this.
Well, just steal his trousers like you have been doing. Yeah. You'd be thinking, what are you doing for a job? Raise you like this. Okay. Mauricio Pochettino. Sounds so quaint. Ivan Juric, who... My Roma-supporting son didn't realise he was the new Southampton manager, walked in while I was watching Match of the Day and like, what is he doing on our telly? Brilliant.
Russell Martin, of course. Russell Martin. Is this permanent managers only, by the way? No, it's interim caretaker managers including. Okay. Ralph Hasenhutl. Good. I'll make no licorice. Did you say since 08, 09? This is a random cut. A long time ago, isn't it? Jake Marlin. Pards? Alan Pardew. Correct. Ruben Tellez.
Hang on a minute. That can't be correct because his name is Ruben Seles. Or did I say Tellez? Come on. I thought that's how you said it. The thing with Andy is he knows all the pronunciations. It's a technicality, but I'll take it. No, no, it's fair. It's fair. It's fair. Unless you're saying it's Ruben Seles, that's absolutely fine. I just presumed, Andy, you'd pronounced it correctly. Andy delivered that in a way that you said, let's just get this over with. Ha, ha, ha, ha.
I also had Nigel Adkins, but I had Sellers. I had Nigel Adkins as well. You could have had Simon Rusk, the famous management manager, of course, the absorbent Rusk. We hardly knew him.
Mark Watt, is it Watter? Mark Hughes, Kelvin Davis, Piotr Vlet, Claude Puel and Dean Wilkins, the caretaker manager. Just the most unbelievably forgettable list of names ever. I don't know, there were some quite big names in there, which is interesting. Southampton's a bit of an entry point, do you know what I think? Southampton will be the manager of the Premier League.
alright Andy teams that Man City have failed to beat this season any team how many have we got 20 of them any team that have either beaten on drama Man City since the first game of Premier League this season in all competitions all competitions and is it how many is it in total how many are there in total in total there are 14 Luke okay may I begin with Arsenal correct the aforementioned Everton of course
May I continue with, so Luke doesn't say Sporting Lisbon, Sporting Club de Portugal. Great result for Sporting Lisbon, that. Okay. Oh, Juventus. Man United. I'll tell you what, we've really enjoyed this period, haven't we? We're just listing them off. Liverpool. Aston Villa. Correct. Crystal Palace. Feyenoord. Oh, good.
I want to say Brighton. And you'd be right. Great round. Newcastle United. Newcastle United. How many have we got left, Pete? One, two, three. Three left. Oh, goodness me. I think in the dim distant past, they didn't manage to beat Inter at home in the Champions League. And you'd be right, Luke. It was nil-nil. It was nil-nil, wasn't it? Yeah. Tottenham Hotspur. Tottenham started this whole foul jamboree. They've beaten them twice. How many left? You've got one left. You've got one left.
Oh, my goodness me. Wow. Oh, it's the first league game at the start of this big malaise was I think they lost 2-1 to Bournemouth.
There we go. Well, you both get a point there. We've enjoyed this from Man City. That's made that absolutely clear, hasn't it? They're all burned onto our brains. Let's remember, you did all 14 bits. And that's quite an achievement, lads. And only Man City can do that. All right, we head into the third round. Luke has two points. Andy has one.
Let's get this finished, lads. Goodness. Luke, you're going to kick off with this one. Every player that reached double figures for Premier League assists last season. Every player that reached double figures for Premier League assists last season. Every player who got 10 or more assists in the Premier League in the 2023-2024 season. I mean, this is from the sublime to the ridiculous. If you were impressing me last round, you were going to be absolutely sickened by me, yeah. That is such a specific question.
10 or more assists. Just think of the assistants for each side, I suppose. Ollie Watkins. Ollie Watkins. 13. He's a market leader. Kevin De Bruyne. Got to be. 10. Just squeezed in there, Andy. My working theory for this is that people spend a lot of time thinking about his goals and probably ignore the fact that he contributes a lot of assists as well. And that is Mo Salah. Correct. 10. Anthony Gordon. Oh, that's an excellent answer. It's a good one, isn't it?
Blimey. It's Torres. Cole Palmer. It's Torres. Correct. Well done. John McGinn. Oh, that's nice. Oh. Oh. You've got to play the music. That is a shame, Andy. Oh, no. Luke Moore wins. Not a shame for me.
Every player that reached double figures for Premier League assists last season. Anthony Gordon, Brennan Johnson, Cole Palmer, Kevin De Bruyne, Kieran Trippier, of course, that was mentioned, Martin Odegaard, Mo Salah, Morgan Gibbs-White, Olly Watkins, Pascal Gross, he was in there, and Son Heung-Min.
Andy, Andy, it's the same old story. In the words of the great Dr. Dre, things will remain the same until I change them. That is a shame. That is a shame. You never ever. Can I just say, in the stack universe, only Dotton is allowed to quote Dr. Dre. So I think you should forfeit and give the win to me. I've now got to pay a tithe to Dotton for saying that.
Listen, everyone out there will be delighted that Brassel, again, maintains his reputation as the most overrated player in Jackson Cyclopedia. I don't think I'm overrated anymore. Yeah, you're now... I'm just trying to think of a player equivalent. You're now no more overrated than Claude Bacalheli is underrated. God, I'm the man city of Jackson Cyclopedia. You can't buy a win anywhere. I don't even know what that means.
Thank you for listening to the Football Ramble part of the Aircast Creator Network. We are back tomorrow for the Mailbag. Follow us on X, Blue Sky, TikTok, Instagram, at Football Ramble and subscribe on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. Luke, it's been real. It's been emotional. Thank you. You can allow your granddad back in his room for a trouser. Andy, what have you got on for the rest of the day?
Running out the house the minute this is finished. All right, then. Let's get out of here. Ta-ta! We'll be back tomorrow. The Football Ramble is a Stack production and part of the Acast Creative Network.
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