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849: The Narrator

2024/12/15
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@Banias : 巴尼亚斯以一个八岁孩子的视角,讲述了她日常生活的点滴,包括与朋友玩耍、模拟学校课程、玩电子游戏等。她巧妙地避开了战争的直接描述,展现了她对生活的热爱和对童年的守护。她用轻松的语气讲述了生活中的趣事,也流露出了对战争的恐惧和无奈,以及对和平的渴望。她对战争的描述往往是间接的,例如,她会提到听到飞机的声音,或者看到昆虫,这些都暗示着战争的残酷现实,但她更愿意关注生活中的美好。 @Maram Hamaid : 作为巴尼亚斯的母亲,Maram Hamaid 讲述了她对女儿在战争中生活的担忧和无奈。她描述了她们一家在战争中流离失所的经历,以及在拥挤的住所中生活的艰辛。她表达了对女儿心理状态的担忧,并试图保护女儿免受战争的伤害。她对战争的描述是直接而痛苦的,展现了战争对平民生活的巨大破坏和对人们心理的摧残。 @Hannah Jaffe-Walt : Hannah Jaffe-Walt 作为记者,试图了解战争对巴尼亚斯生活的影响,但她发现巴尼亚斯更愿意讲述她自己的生活,而不是战争的残酷现实。她试图从巴尼亚斯的视角去理解战争,并展现了战争对儿童心理的深远影响。她对巴尼亚斯乐观积极的态度感到惊讶,也对战争的残酷现实感到震惊。 @Chana Jaffe-Walt : Chana Jaffe-Walt 总结了巴尼亚斯在战争中生活的经历,以及战争对加沙地带儿童的深远影响。她描述了加沙地带的战争持续不断,对儿童的身心健康造成了巨大的伤害。她指出,战争对儿童的影响是持续的,没有“后创伤应激障碍”的“后”这个阶段,只有持续的应对。她呼吁关注加沙地带儿童的困境,并为他们提供帮助。

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What is unique about the situation of children in Gaza compared to other war zones?

Children in Gaza are not allowed to leave the war zone; they are displaced within Gaza itself, stuck in the violence with their families in crowded rooms or tents. This is different from other war zones where children might be displaced to safer areas away from the fighting.

How does Banias cope with the war and displacement in Gaza?

Banias copes by creating her own routines and activities, such as playing school games with friends, reenacting her old life through games, and engaging in imaginative play. She also uses phone calls with the reporter as a way to narrate her life and maintain a sense of control.

What does Banias' mother, Maram, say about her daughter's experience of the war?

Maram explains that Banias views Israel as an enemy due to the constant bombings and killings. She also notes that Banias, like many Palestinian children, is experiencing continuous trauma rather than post-traumatic stress, as the war and its effects are ongoing.

What challenges do children in Gaza face due to the war?

Children in Gaza face acute malnutrition, widespread disease, skin infections, and the reappearance of diseases like polio. They also lose limbs, parents, and their lives, with over 13,000 children killed since the war began. Additionally, they lack access to education, safety, and basic necessities like food and medicine.

Why does Banias avoid talking about the war during her phone calls?

Banias avoids talking about the war because it is not the main focus of her thoughts. Instead, she prefers to narrate her daily life, focusing on her activities, friends, and imaginative play, which helps her cope with the ongoing trauma.

What does Banias' mother, Maram, say about the psychological impact of the war on children in Gaza?

Maram, referencing a psychologist, explains that children in Gaza are not suffering from PTSD because the trauma is continuous and there is no opportunity for recovery. Instead, children cope in various ways, such as acting out, becoming obsessed with certain activities, or trying to shape their world positively.

What is the significance of the Netzerim Corridor in Gaza?

The Netzerim Corridor is a militarized zone that Israel has built across Gaza, separating the north from the south. It spans around 20 square miles, takes up more than 12% of Gaza's territory, and includes checkpoints, roads, and infrastructure. It has been described by some as part of an ethnic cleansing effort, as it prevents displaced Gazans from returning to their homes in the north.

How does Banias' family's recent move reflect the ongoing displacement in Gaza?

Banias' family moved to a less crowded apartment a few miles from their previous location, but it is still temporary and not home. This move reflects the prolonged displacement and uncertainty faced by many Gazans, as they cannot return to their destroyed homes in the north due to the militarized Netzerim Corridor.

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The episode begins with a phone call to a journalist in Gaza, which unexpectedly features her 8-year-old daughter, Banias, who starts narrating her life. Banias, like other children in Gaza, is displaced but remains within the conflict zone. The chapter explores the unique perspective of children in Gaza who are trapped in the violence.
  • Unexpected phone call with Banias, an 8-year-old girl from Gaza.
  • Banias starts narrating her life, becoming the central voice of the episode.
  • Children in Gaza are displaced within the conflict zone, unlike children in other war zones.

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Banias is an 8-year-old kid living in Gaza. And she has a story to tell — many stories, in fact.

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  • Prologue: While on the phone with reporter Maram Hamaid in Gaza, producer Chana Joffe-Walt gets interrupted by Maram’s daughter––Banias, eight, who grabs the phone from her mother and starts telling us about her life. The narrator arrives. (8 minutes)
  • Part One: Banias, an 8-year-old in Gaza, tells us about her life––her friends, the games she plays, the things she cares about. Everything but the war going on around her. (25 minutes)
  • Part Two: Banias talks about the war. (20 minutes)

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