**The conversation starts with some playful banter between Brad and Mike. They discuss the use of the word 'fuck' and engage in a lighthearted back-and-forth. They then transition to the topic of TikTok offering the US government a kill switch, which leads to a discussion about the influence of big social media companies and the potential motivations behind the TikTok ban. They also touch on the history of China and its relationship with the US. **