Andrew Clay Shafer (@litteidea, VP Transformation @RedHat ) & John Willis (@botchagalupe, Sr.Dir. Transformation) talk about the importance of "learning organizations", aligning change to business value, and the evolution of self-service and automated governance.
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**Topic 1 **- Welcome to the show. You’re both really well known in the DevOps communities, but give us the TL;DR of your backgrounds for anyone not familiar with your work.
**Topic 2 **- Whether people are tired of the term “Digital Transformation” or not, change is a huge part of our industry, especially as it relates to corporate culture and organization. What’s the framing for that type of discussion in 2021?
**Topic 3 - I’ve heard you both say “technology is easy, people are hard”. How do you think about these conflicts of transformation, whether people’s individual motivations aren’t always aligned to a business goal? **
**Topic 4 **- One of the biggest differences between existing companies and start-ups is the level of self-service that they build around their systems. The self-service systems allow experimentation, allow automated deployments, etc. But is there a way to bring a concept of automated governance to these end-to-end models?
**Topic 5 **- Oftentimes transformations are aligned with cloud-native technologies, cloud-native apps. The model of Ops in a cloud-native world is different. What are some of the areas you both focus on to make cloud-native Ops successful, or better aligned to the technology part of transformations?
**Topic 6 **- What are some of the best and worst “getting started” steps that you see various groups (or companies) take in their transformation journeys?
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