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殺掉了青春,你還有夢嗎?EP101 booktender 陳以文《陰影下的陽光》

2024/11/30
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陳以文: 談到電影創作,我認為『弄假成真』並非虛假,而是透過精湛的技藝,將虛假演繹得逼真,從而傳遞真實的情感。在表演中,我更注重行為背後的動機和能量,而非僅僅是表面情緒。我觀察人的行為和反應,包括其隱藏和展現的部分,這些觀察累積成為我詮釋角色的素材。我所飾演的角色,無論是好人還是壞人,都力求展現其真實性和立體感,而非簡單的正面或負面形象。我認為人是複雜的,有其隱藏和溝通的一面。在詮釋角色時,我會與導演溝通,並結合自身觀察和理解,嘗試呈現一些以前影視作品中未曾展現過的真實和立體感。 關於『殺掉青春沒有夢』這個書名,我認為它並非消極,而是將青春投入夢想,並完成夢想的積極詮釋。我認為人生就像一場即興演出,隨時都有新的可能性。我喜歡『弄假成真』的過程,因為這個過程對我來說無比重要,它能構成最終的『真』。 我認為自己是『逆著走』的人,喜歡挑戰常規,追求內心的平靜與自由。自由來自於一種安定與平靜的感受,能夠安於平靜而感到幸福,這是一種自由。 我對人性感到好奇,喜歡觀察人的行為和思考方式,探究其內在欲望。我認為自己是一個既有情又疏離的人,在創作中,我更注重人物的呈現,而非影像空間和光影。 我演了二十年的導演,現在開始專注於演員的角色,這並非完全放棄導演身份,而是希望呈現更多不同的人物角色。 Hank & Ting: 我們從陳以文的訪談中,深入了解了他對表演、創作、人生的獨特見解。他對『弄假成真』的詮釋,以及他對角色的細膩觀察和詮釋,都展現了他作為一個演員和導演的專業素養。他的『逆著走』的人生態度,也啟發我們去思考自由和人生的意義。 透過這次訪談,我們看到一個始終保持創作熱情,拒絕被定義框架的藝術家形象。他對人性的深刻洞察,以及對表演藝術的獨特見解,都給我們留下了深刻的印象。

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Why does Chen Yi-wen believe that 'killing youth' is a positive concept?

Chen Yi-wen interprets 'killing youth' as using all of one's youth to fulfill their dreams, thereby eliminating the need to dream anymore. He sees it as a proactive approach to life, where one exhausts their youthful energy to achieve their aspirations, leaving no unfinished dreams.

What is Chen Yi-wen's approach to acting and character interpretation?

Chen Yi-wen focuses on observing human behavior and reactions in everyday life, which he then applies to his roles. He believes in understanding the underlying motivations and complexities of characters, rather than just memorizing lines. He often collaborates with directors to ensure his portrayal aligns with the character's true essence.

How does Chen Yi-wen describe his role in the film 'A Sun'?

Chen Yi-wen describes his character in 'A Sun' as a good person who ultimately commits a crime to protect his child. He believes the character's actions, though extreme, stem from a place of love and responsibility, making him a complex figure rather than a straightforward villain.

What challenges did Chen Yi-wen face in portraying the 'wolf teacher' in 'She and Her'?

Chen Yi-wen found the role of the 'wolf teacher' challenging due to its sensitive nature. He hesitated initially, fearing public backlash, but ultimately took on the role after considering the female-led creative team's perspective. He aimed to portray the character's complexity, showing that such individuals can have both normal and darker sides.

How does Chen Yi-wen view the relationship between 'fake' and 'real' in his work?

Chen Yi-wen sees 'fake' as a process that leads to 'real.' He believes that creating something artificial, like in magic or acting, can evoke genuine emotions and truths. For him, the effort to make something appear real is what ultimately communicates authenticity to the audience.

What is Chen Yi-wen's perspective on his dual roles as a director and actor?

Chen Yi-wen views his roles as a director and actor as different facets of the same creative process. He doesn't see them as conflicting but rather as complementary. While he enjoys directing, he feels more fulfilled as an actor, where he can explore and portray diverse characters more deeply.

How does Chen Yi-wen describe his creative process and approach to storytelling?

Chen Yi-wen's creative process is deeply rooted in observing human behavior and exploring the complexities of characters. He focuses on the emotional and psychological depth of his roles, often leaving room for interpretation in his storytelling. He believes in creating space for the audience to engage with the narrative on a personal level.

What does Chen Yi-wen consider as his definition of freedom?

Chen Yi-wen defines freedom as a state of inner peace and contentment. He believes true freedom comes from being able to live calmly and happily, regardless of external circumstances. This perspective contrasts with his rebellious tendencies, as he values stability and tranquility over chaos.

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本段落探討陳以文早期作品《殺掉青春,沒有夢》的書名由來,並闡述其背後蘊含的積極意義,以及他對「弄假成真」的藝術理念。
  • 《殺掉青春,沒有夢》書名的反轉解讀:將青春投注於夢想,完成夢想後便沒有夢,而非灰暗的沒有希望。
  • 「弄假成真」的藝術理念:在表演和創作中對真實性的追求,透過精湛的技巧,將虛假演繹得如同真實一般。
  • 真與假的辯證:真與假並非對立,而是在某種連結上都是真實的。

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00:00:00 把青春都用光不就沒有夢了嗎! 00:14:00 慘烈的拍片故事 00:30:00 以文哥談演技秘訣 00:38:00 「演了二十年導演」 00:44:00 《陽光普照》裡的爸爸是好人還是壞人 00:52:00 《小美》、《一路順風》等作品中的演出感受 01:00:00 談論人性、角色詮釋與內在動機 01:10:00 關於那個「拼貼藝術區」 01:20:00《她和她的她》裡狼師角色的詮釋與挑戰 01:25:00 討論生活、創作與閱讀的平衡 01:27:00「逆著走」的人生態度與自由

在這場深度對談中,演員、導演、創作者陳以文以獨特的視角分享了他對「假」與「真」的思考。從早期熱愛魔術的經歷談起,他闡述了「弄假成真」的藝術理念,以及在表演和創作中對真實性的追求。

對話中,陳以文坦承自己是個「逆著走」的人,卻也道出了對自由和平靜的嚮往。談及其早期作品《殺掉青春沒有夢》,他反轉了人們對書名的灰暗解讀,闡述了將青春投注於夢想的積極意義。作為一個難以定義的創作者,他在導演與演員的身分間游走,不斷挑戰自我,探索人性的複雜面向。這場對談展現了一個始終保持創作熱情、拒絕被定義框架的藝術家形象。

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