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Interviewing users with Steve Portigal

2024/5/30
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Steve Portigal: 本书探讨了用户访谈的实践,以及在商业环境中如何利用访谈结果改进产品或服务的用户体验。过去十年,用户访谈本身没有发生变化,但其周围的环境发生了变化。用户研究的实践环境从完全由顾问主导转变为公司内部团队进行,并且出现了更多非专业研究人员参与研究的情况。 十年来,作者在用户研究方面的最大收获是更加注重培养受访者的自信心和对犯错的接纳度,并认识到存在多种有效的研究方法。第二版书籍新增的两章分别关于数据分析与整合以及如何影响组织,这是因为第一版中对这些内容的处理不够充分,并且读者反馈也表明了对这方面内容的需求。公司内部研究团队与外部顾问团队在用户研究方面存在差异,内部团队拥有长期视角和积累的经验,而顾问团队则更具客观性和灵活性。公司内部研究团队需要建立知识管理体系,记录研究成果,而这与外部顾问的工作方式不同。 GDPR 等隐私法规的实施改变了用户访谈的流程,需要更加重视受访者的隐私权并建立相应的合规流程。公司需要建立完善的隐私保护和数据合规流程,并以用户友好的方式告知用户数据收集和使用情况。未来五年,用户研究领域可能会面临挑战,例如裁员和行业不确定性,但用户研究的重要性不会消失。用户研究的定义和实践方式仍在不断发展,其重要性不会消失,尤其是在了解用户需求和促进人际连接方面。用户研究的核心价值在于人际连接、好奇心和对学习的开放态度,这些价值不会因为行业变化而改变。 Pat Expo: (无核心论点,主要为引导访谈) James Roy Lawson: (无核心论点,主要为引导访谈)

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How has user research evolved over the past decade according to Steve Portigal?

User research has shifted from being primarily conducted by consultants to being managed by in-house teams. This change has led to more structured research practices, with roles like research leadership and research operations emerging. Additionally, more people without formal research titles are now conducting research, a trend referred to as 'People Who Do Research' (PWDR). The context of research has also evolved, with greater emphasis on collaboration, knowledge sharing, and organizational impact.

What are the two new chapters added to the second edition of 'Interviewing Users'?

The two new chapters focus on analysis and synthesis of research data, and how to have an impact and influence within an organization. These topics were briefly acknowledged in the first edition but are now expanded to address the growing need for researchers to effectively analyze data and drive organizational change.

Why did Steve Portigal initially resist writing a second edition of 'Interviewing Users'?

Steve initially resisted because he believed the core principles of interviewing—listening, asking follow-up questions, and understanding body language—were timeless and didn't need updating. However, he later realized that while the fundamentals of interviewing remain the same, the context in which research is conducted has significantly changed, prompting the need for a second edition.

What challenges do in-house research teams face compared to consultants?

In-house teams face challenges like maintaining institutional memory, managing long-term relationships with users, and ensuring research impacts organizational decisions. They also deal with organizational biases and incentives tied to product success, which consultants, being external, can avoid. However, in-house teams benefit from deeper contextual knowledge and the ability to build longitudinal relationships with users.

How has the awareness of privacy and GDPR affected user research practices?

Increased awareness of privacy and GDPR has led to more rigorous consent processes and data management practices in user research. Researchers now need to ensure participants understand what data is being collected, why, and how it will be used. This has also led to the development of creative solutions, such as using videos to explain consent in low-literacy environments, as demonstrated by Sesame Workshop.

What is Steve Portigal's perspective on the future of user research in the next five years?

Steve believes that while there is currently anxiety and uncertainty in the field, particularly due to layoffs and organizational changes, the need for user research will persist. He predicts that the practice will continue to evolve, with a focus on democratization and ensuring that more people, including developers, have exposure to user research. He emphasizes that understanding and caring for users will remain central to successful product development.

What role does ResearchOps play in modern user research organizations?

ResearchOps, a relatively new discipline, helps organizations manage the operational aspects of research, such as compliance, data storage, and participant consent. It ensures that research practices align with legal requirements and organizational needs, making it easier for researchers to focus on their core tasks while maintaining ethical standards.

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S02E18 (#328). Over ten years have passed since the first edition of Steve Portigal’s legendary book Interviewing Users was released. Together with Steve, we reflect on how user research has evolved during the past decade, and how the importance of user research in order to understand people and their needs is still crucial.