Revisit this conversation between Prentis + Mariame Kaba from July 5th, 2021._____In this episode, Prentis sits with activist, organizer, educator, and author, Mariame Kaba, to discuss abolition and its connection to healing work. This conversation asks us to confront difficult truths about our enacting of relationship, our striving for innocence, and how much we might actually draw pleasure from punishment.**Find the show notes + transcript on our website: **www.findingourwaypodcast.com)**Come practice with us at The Embodiment Institute: **www.theembodimentinstitute.org)Follow us on Instagram @findingourwaypodcast)Stay up to date on Prentis' work by joining our newsletter)The Finding Our Way Team includes:Prentis Hemphill )- Host and ProducerEddie Hemphill )- Co-Producer + Editordevon de Leña) - Co-Producer + Visual Design