Social media’s impact and Sony’s PlayStation news
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about social media on this very special episode. This week is basically are relaxing thanksgiving weak audio episode of the podcast, which we Normally live, stream the recording off on the engaged youtube channel on thursday morning at about ten forty five am eastern n we're not doing that this week because, well, the ventures out is thanksgiving week and IT is thanksgiving um in the us uh on the day after or the day of this episode going out.

So we're not gonna do that, but we still wanted to talk to you all and hope fully it's a chill time. Uh, if you enjoy the show, please make sure you subscribe on your podcast catch of choice, leave us a review on whatever you're getting this podcast that helps people discover us and then if you have any thoughts or feedback, send them to podcast at engadget 点 com。 So yeah this week, I mean, gosh, there's no lot going on uh, in november really but specifically this week in the U S.

Is slow as how where where it's like black friday all the time on the website, on the internet. Um but there was still some little pieces of news and I thought we dive into just just stuff has been happening on social media, a related to the big social media like networks, but also our own thoughts and interactions, especially during this time when I think know if the temperatures are coming down, people are getting a bit depressed as well. It's not really easy see all of that online um I will start with you just like have you noticed anything about like your use of social media lately? Especially year yeah .

actually this year I change my social media habits like pretty drastically. I didn't announce thing you know I was just kind of like a not quiet quitting but like quiet chilling and very much just like using everything less. I'm i'm not posting on instagram as often. I'm yeah only using I i've dropped twitter few years ago at this point because what asset pool but um but yeah i'm mom threads and now i'm on blue sky and sharing there because I know everyone's on blu sky, so i'm there too.

When we say everyone who do we really mean though? Because I think we usually mean like using something like twitter or blue sky as kind of like a linked in for media people.

That's why I wasn't there at first. I wasn't really interested in blue sky like before the post election surge. Now it's like, oh, people are actually excited about this platform.

They're using IT for not just like linked in situations. And so that's why I am back there now too. But yeah, threads has been my like posting stories.

please right? Yeah I I remember because we followed each other on instagram just and uh I also have noticed like both of us have slowed down posting. I just assumed he was like Better relationship with social media general or like I am older now so maybe I feel less of a needs to get external validation. There are so many reasons um I will point out that you mentioned uh threads and blue sky I was super hib about threats when I first like large I think I was like last year member on the oh yes so and I didn't have that level of light energy for a blue sky when I first signed up june twenty twenty three. And yet now it's like really rising up this week, I think or or at some point this month we saw the music blue sky has hit twenty million users um and then this week we saw threats was like, yeah we had more than thirty five million sign ups in november.

very like just in november.

just in november alone um where's like blue sky lifetime achievement is twenty years so it's clear that threads is so huge. But I think since the early days survived that i've been in the threads and I don't know how much time you spend on threads cheers but like I I don't have the same feelings. In fact, I I feel like a lot of people are very angry on thread .

now days yeah, IT didn't take long for IT to turn a little like, oh, the algorithms bad oh, everyone here is angry at. You know, just kind of the stuff that you, anna, avoid on these platforms. IT kind of took over threads pretty quickly.

I just post my stories and canna walk away on threads. And that's that's me being healthy with my social media relationships. But yeah, blue sky for now is a little more optimistic in my community building feeling. And that's that's nice.

I yes, I think up do you think IT or last? I don't know I but I don't need IT to like I think we've talked about our our relationship with social media and general has changed and maybe IT is because were older now, but like I don't know, I still I live in a cool life, but I just don't really need to share every moment of IT, you know and I don't need to be online all the time. So so I use my my social feeds strategically at this point and I am happy with that so they can evolve and i'm fine.

There's a sense that like posting on social media in the moment also takes you out of the moment too. And you know that might be an respective like our matching um approach to social media, you as being generally in the same age band versus zoom ers who are always posting and um talking about the psychological .

ramifications of that. I don't know if people all do this for me and for some other people I ve noticed in the genser of demographic, I I tend to just wait till the end of the day when i'm done with my activities, then I post there's less of that light being removed from the moment for me.

There is there is still a bit of that like this connection because you're still looking on your phone during to capture whatever IT is and everything every event feels like a photo Operate. My cousin, my love dearly, is a whole like, I know fifteen years Younger than me or something like that. So a different generation and he is definitely gencer and is like, yeah and both and I do the thing where we look out our phones and take take photos of the food before we eat them and I think that's the the ency thing to do yeah the phone eat first.

But then like the way we post afterwards, it's like sometimes I forget to post them that really matter. But like for him is so curated IT. It's like there is a pictures the background there's banners of the the food pictures are cut out. It's very very um there's more thought into IT than I would am very sporadic.

So I mean, we wanted to talk a little bit about like just how do we think social media affected all of us in general? And I feel, as I ve like, for those of us were like like making the conscious choice that they step back from IT. We ve were tired of IT. But then I don't know that the Younger generation that's coming up to vote is coming up to become with the social economic power there that where I don't know .

that your Younger than me by a lot ah by IT. And I would say I know a lot of people have stepped away from social media or have been in the process of stepping away from social media basically since eighteen, because that's when I felt like the noise level got turned way, way up, that all of a sudden somebody dies.

You uncle, that never really like cared about politics over the world all that much, was suddenly incessantly posting all sorts of crazy nonsense on facebook and exclusively facebook probably not anything but facebook. I have seen that even more in the last few weeks because oh well we are going to have another stream of horrible nonsense for um the next few years as well. My main struggle with social media right now is how do I keep up with the sort of people that I want to keep up with, which are a lot of media people without doing the sort of thirsty, performative posting that I did on twitter.

Because I do want people to know that I am open for business. I definitely want to, like, talk with more folks about making podcasts. I want to kind of be a pod fluency a little bit, because I know that that makes me very visible in terms of you know someone reaching out with a cool possible project or um you know reaching out with like an interesting story idea to pitch to one of the long form shows but how do I do that without being annoying to both myself and others?

It's like a living .

resume yes.

exam have IT which is I think of pretty powerful use for social media like I think that's really valid. And I mean we've seen I I guess like yeah twenty sixteen the fall of started but like twenty twenty, we really saw the power of social media like the black lib's matter movement gained so much traction, so much organization on twitter of all platforms.

You know it's like we've seen that these things can be good for for certain uses and I think like, yeah having a living resume is a great a great east for this. But it's like authenticity is is at the core of IT. If you're just kind of only posting what actually feels right and actually feels good for whatever you're trying to do and not just yeah not just posting to get engagement like that and it's pretty transparent when people do that, right? So I yeah just 看到 figure out what you want to do with IT and then just do that authentically。

His engagement bee, that's for sure. That's out there. I think that the threats algorithm has like unfairly promoted a lot of that stuff, which makes IT part of why it's so toxic. I did want to say that when you were talking about uh, how to kind of keep up with people without a lot of this uh, performative stuff, I mean, I think just answered the question of like your and how do you not come off performative but I think the news this week that we saw was that threats as testing a way to make your following feet the default, which will probably go a long way in eliminating a lot of that noise hopefully um and you won be exposed as much of the other people's performative content on your feet and you're able to keep up with just people you want to keep up with. And then the thing we were kind of talking about before was like, oh, Younger people are not so aware. So also news this week we saw we saw that tiktok is going to limit appearance altering effects for people who under eighteen um how they're going to age verify remains a question for me. They'll have .

a system that will IT actually work .

if it's pretty easy to bypass .

birthday.

If there's anything I know about kids or teenagers is that if there is a way they'll find IT to get around the things you I exactly like I found my way I grown grow. I mean I don't I didn't feel grown and to very recently um but we'll get to IT. But okay so speaking like the Charlotte and influence there is an engagement bay on things like threads and hopefully not blue sky. We were just sucking IT on the planning call for this show about uh like social media influencers making IT to reality T V. And or vice and just you are gonna do you have any thoughts on your your favorite TV franchise and the social media?

Yeah we are. We're in a golden era for real housewives. So this is like my verse is my my region bander pump real housewives, all that stuff um and yeah it's like you can tell when someone is cast on any of those shows and they're just there to be a social media influence.

You can tell when they're there as a social media person and they are like univerSally hated by the audience and they their contracts don't last. They're not brought back. So it's like authenticity really is the key.

We want to if we're going to engage with these cool personalities that we see online, you want to feel that they're real. You you want to feel like this person is actually bringing something unique to the table and they're not just playing apart, right? Like that's reality TV like it's scripted sure to an extent um but the people themselves can be authentic in those spaces and that's what really resonates with people yeah I think that's true for social media.

I mean and this goes back to the thing that we are all saying about social media being our living resume is really if you make a big on social media, then you have a greater chance at success anywhere else in your life, you can venture into different business opportunities. For example, Edison ray is like a singer now and I actually like some of her songs, which is great uh for her. Um and then you're saying like you know if you want people to consider your position skills, you need to be out there and it's not enough that like maybe you're editing and M P R podcast or something you need to of engage with other people and I feel like um .

and this is something that a lot of media folks have realized too like it's not enough to be well known as like, oh, you're a very good writer you know engaged or the atlantic or doing your times or something. You have to become your own cottage industry if you want a durable career in news now yeah everyone .

is a brand and I was thinking, like my partner is like trying to start up a thing and I was like, they are like, the one to start an APP and I was like, bro, you need to start with social media. Why are you starting an APP? Start from social media, get the popularity, then start your bit like and it's so funny, how is all reverse now you used to be you just start a business, you make good stuff and getting comes as part of the story. But now it's like the marketing is more and more like a huge part of IT. Um yeah I don't know that IT lends to very interactions in the world .

or if you're building the APP or something you need to like very much chronic, the building of the APP and um you know try to get people excited about that. And then how much are you really focused on building the thing versus documenting building the thing?

No, I think it's interesting that there's a pipeline from create your brand and then make the product, you know, instead of make the product and that is the brand or the IT follows you. It's like I I want to do A M R know with like video games swag. I have so much video games swag and IT sounds great.

I don't want to whispers anything, is just tappy tap nail stuff. So like I want to do that. But i've realized the people that follow me on like threads and instagram, they don't care about A S smart. They think those posts are creepy. So like I need to start from scrap and IT probably will be totally separate from like my personal as a as a journalist rider whatever.

So it's like, yeah just kind of realizing, oh yeah, these are there different markets and there what social media and all these platforms allow us to do is to find our bubble and like just existing that and even if there's just like five thousand people in that bubble, that's enough to like build a business of a if all those people want to give you money each month or buy a product, you know like that's that's enough to sustain. You don't need everyone to love everything you do. That's just like finder people and do stuff with them for them. Yes.

and i'm sorry to say this, but IT IT actually kind of pisses me off how much money companies are willing to spend on this sort of marketing. Those send free, like half half the money that goes worth paying for goods and services nowadays, is going to sending free shit tilly, influencers that will promote their stuff on social or like IT is annoying to me that that's where they're choosing to spend their money and is therefore very like refreshing when I see companies avoid that altogether.

If feels really chAllenging these days to focus on good work or are making a good product and not having to like content with the noise are getting yourself out there is I think they're going to be the way the system is built nowaday. Like we've built these systems, we built them, like you can say, like I cannot absolve myself from the plan. I think I was part of the discussion of like, oh, patron started up and now there's only fans and there are so many ways to pay people directly.

We have now Foster the environment where it's so much easier if if we voted, just make money off of selling themselves, not in IT like selling their image or selling whatever IT is that themselves ves constitutes. And I guess I I I think this is the way IT is now. And I don't know if there is light room for IT, both those things we exist at the same time. Can you be a good product and have that be enough? I don't know.

This may be risky for the podcast. Feel you to cut IT, but I mean, there's the the idea that all work is sex work. Everyone is selling their body in everything to and you, right? I mean, this is I think that's pretty valid. And especially with these ideas where we're turning people in the brands or or people are turning themselves in the brands or just using what they have within them to to sell things online or or to create something or or to build a community. Um and I am into that you know it's IT really is about just finding your people though yeah find your people be authentic that that kind of wisdom from an elder milenio on social media .

so speaking about finding your people and the like social media influencers on reality TV and everything like we need to come back to the idea that since twitter has gone the way of the dodo sort of got very ideological must is using IT as his personal playground that might have broken the consensus on microblogging period that's what everybody in the tech Prices talking about.

And so when you're talking about finding your people, you might also be talking about finding your specific correct place to post because you can't just put that stuff on twitter and expect a sub group of folks on that platform to find that you might want to start posting on threads and that might be where more of those people are versus blue skye. Vers must done vers any of the other many, many um things that have popped up to like take the place of twitter because it's it's like a whale fall in the ocean. Now there's this whole little ecosystem popping up inside the like ongoing death of this enormous website.

I think things have fundamentally changed.

Yeah yeah and i've been i've been any more time on discord like that kind of my social no, it's not like public facing. These are all pretty closed communities that you can join and find but like that's that's enough for me. That's why i'm finding cool new stuff as where i'm talking to people and like I know tumblr still exists to an extent you like there there are other weird little sites around and little apps and yeah you can you can just check IT out doesn't have to be just threads .

or blue sky right like yeah we gone are the days when like people sold movie deals based on of like crazy twitter threads anymore like the one percent told their story on a twitter has a movie now, right like a deal. But there is that not never going to happen again.

I think to ben's point, right, there's I think going to be in the future permanent fragmentation of these like communal chat spaces that are public because of what's happened um to twitter since they became X I guess um and yeah I guess I I wanted to know what everyone else that's listened to this episode things um where's your favorite space? Do you think we're just all going to go back to emAiling people? Uh, just clearly found some space in this cord, maybe some temple pages. I think i'm more a passive person that's using redit more um I always have been pretty heavy on like a reader on redit, but not so much like to engage people. Um and yeah then if you ever find success through uh blue sky and get become like A M E winning producer that be a happy day for all of us.

I keep on telling myself that I need to start posting tiktok, but IT is terrifying and cause .

you put a lot more of yourself out there yeah .

but if you if you just believe in what you're saying and you're like, this is valid, I think the kids will love IT.

The kids will like IT. Well, uh, this is a good time to plug all of engages socials. We do control, I think we really returned off our little feet on blue sky, I think in the recent past, maybe this week last and so uh, at a gadget ob guy, social, I believe, is where we are.

And you will find a starter pack of all in gadget writers and editors on there as well. We are also wetting gadget on instagram, tiktok ex facebook, link in, if that's your vibe. So he does up there. And if you prefer, you can always email us a podcast adding dit 点 com。

right? We're gone to continue this chill little episode with a small gaming corner update with jess and then probably mostly talking during this section. Just tell us what's up.

All right? yeah. I mean, I guess IT is like a slow back half of november, but for me in my world were wrapped up to the game awards, which is in the beginning of december.

So like december twelve. So right now, we have a few bits of news out of out of gaming. The one that i'm really interested in is SONY reportedly developing a new portable council.

So immediately I am like, oh, a new vida. fantastic. Let's go um and yeah my I love of the windows well documented.

So SONY working on something new is cool. Um and this is different than the portal, which I also like. And we can talk about that as well. There's a little news are around portal um but yeah, sounds like sony's diving more into handheld kind of stuff, and that's really exciting for me. I don't know, ban.

are you? Are you a veit boy? No, I think i've seen like a few people playing IT know over the years um on the subway because i've lived in york city for that long.

Um when you talk about games streaming IT might be way Better on A V A similar device now than I was before because the veto came out and look at like twenty eleven, twenty twelve broadband has gone so much Better in the U. S. Since then.

Cloud gaming is actually possible nowadays and IT just IT truly wasn't before. So IT was like a matter of downloading games and playing them. And that was totally fine with me. I still very much believe in that system.

Um but what SONY so like with the portal SONY has the playstation portal and this is a handheld device that at first stream games from your play station five console to the device and you could play your games in your house kind of handheld version. Um but now SONY has rolled out cloud streaming. They're testing cloud streaming on the portal where you can just boot up a game and play IT from the cloud out without the PS five involved at all.

And this is like IT actually works, by the way. So I have a pal. I've been testing cloud streaming and it's so smooth I forget that i'm streaming anything. I forget that i'm playing from the cloud. I played an animal welfare like an hour to and I was like then this is great.

Um so yeah, it's like we're actually at a place where cloud networks are strong enough, like we have broadband strong enough, wifi strong enough to actually make these things possible. These are like dreams that have been laid out for for video game fans for decades, right, like we've been dreaming of this day. Um so making a handhold right now that has class dreaming can also down their games makes so much sense.

And I have to say it's pretty shocking that tony is leading this charge rather than microsoft. Um this is like microsoft like SONY is using microsoft as your cloud technology to stream its games like they have a partnership. Microsoft is the person in charge of cloud gaming if they want to be.

Um but in my experience, playstation streaming has been more stable then um x boxes and or at at least as table and they're doing more with that in terms of like handhold and stuff. Apparently microsoft is also apparently working on a handheld uh console or controller kind of thing. Um we will see and I think that smart of of like anyone on the xbox team, they should be doing handle stuff. I don't think like councils are x boxes future um and I think they know that so but the fact that SONY is like kind of passing microsoft interns of cloud play um shocking never did not think that this would be .

the outcome. Just point out that really the v piece trying out of gaming the p he still mentioned that like this, basically he said, this cloud streaming feature makes me hate this PS portal. Bit less I cool.

I the way the P. S. Plot existed before was a bit questionable, right? Is just like free to stream games from the P S. Five in your living room, but like when you're in your bedroom or something like that. And now IT seems a lot more useful, but is still not obviously that I take anywhere you go in the console or thinking, right, 5g is not in the equation for cloud streaming or gaming yeah .

yeah if you like， we're like we're still building out cloud gaming. We still building what we can do with that. And I don't think like I can't really play overwatch on the cloud on the portal like that doesn't really work right the connection.

So like competitive online games, not quite not quite ready for that, but I think we're getting there right. And this is closer than we've ever been and actually feels viable. Like I know google stadia shut down, but amazon still has luna, like luna is still a thing and amazon still promoting IT. They're just cloud game and over there um yeah it's a it's a thing it's .

going to bring up study is going to be like do you think my right I don't .

see for a year and then drop again.

So just we've talked a lot about various companies making people by and debate a test their products like most recently, I think IT was falda les of all sorts. Do you think the playstation portal is in that realm of like making people buy a ba product or what? So I did not hate .

the portal as much as devendra, right? Like his his review of IT was pretty shocking to me because I I saw a lot of value in IT, like in my house. IT makes sense to have a second screen that can play a play station game while someone else uses the main TV like I just had made sense, like for my house so that I I know I didn't really agree with his promise and use of IT and my wife. I was capable of handling IT.

So you experiencing the same thing he was when he was trying to fire up a local network game. So so before the cloud streaming came on and he would have to like, wait so long for the game to boot up from the console itself that the porto itself that he would have to walk all the way back to his living room and lake started from, there is something like that.

No, I never had that issue. IT was pretty seamless, pretty strait forward. But I have a very small house like this is like less than a thousand and feet. So the wifi is strong wherever you go. Yeah which is I think that's part of IT.

I think that's part of the reason we have such different experiences is that like this may be a bit bigger. He is after all, I think like a multiple house for with his like much bigger than yours, I think.

So IT is kind of like the P S 5 pro is not for everyone， the portal, not for everyone did I do feel little bit like a gini pig, but it's a really solid piece of hardware, right? Like IT doesn't feel cheap. It's it's about as like why is a steam deck but it's lighter because IT has some some holes, some air where the handles and the screen don't touch and IT feels really nice to hold.

Yeah i've pretty much no complaints like if i'm a ginni pig, this is this is fine. Keep up on. okay.

So one last note on playstation this week that we were going to talk about is we saw the news that you he a is leaving playstation. Just what does .

this mean to this is, yeah, a little, a little heartbreaking is a little it's a little sad because he has been just like a champion of the games and smaller developers and really giving time to innovation in gaming um so yeah this isn't the end of an era. I mean, playstation has changed a lot even in uh, just ten years. He's been like thirty years.

So we've seen SONY like lead the council wars and really give IT to x box at e three and then lead the in charge and then they kind of like lost their footing. And we weren't seeing a lot of innovation. They'd lost their sense of like indie stuff um but he was a champion always of indie games and that's like that's my that's my heart and soul when he comes to gaming. So I have a lot of respect for him. Um and yeah i'm i'm interested to see if he just kind of maybe leans in the indeed stuff post playstation.

And to be clear for anyone that like me might not know, so you sheet SONY interactively ad of in this initiative of which is a and that according to the article and reading on a com is a position he got in twenty nineteen. So for him.

he was president of a place station studios. Like he was president of, like the the software and like, you know, games coming in. So he did any stuff within that as a real focus.

Shan laden as well. When he left, things changed. You know, it's like there were a few people that can really change the direction of these huge companies and you should know was one of those here.

And a kotaku noted that this is like coming up on the police station's thirty th th anniversary on the super third uh which is really like quite a like a significant time for us to be talking about this like thirty what thirty anniversary and thirty years is about at least how long he's been in at police station. So that's a very long tenure. And also one quick thing I wanted to point out is that he did say he intends to remain in the industry. So like, what else might he do that you might be interested?

And you know, well, you know, I can actually tell a little story, little behind the scenes.

T, I.

yeah. I I guess this is tired at summer game first um I was talking with devlin, our president, nl and we were just talking in the back their tent and you she'd walked in and I had a meeting next and um and I was like interesting interesting to see you here interesting that you're just kind of meeting up and talking with devolve of all people IT makes love of sense, right? He they've always been closed like there there's a tighten bond between new shit and community in developer is part of that so yeah I I would not be surprised if he just kind of a keep supporting smaller gaming studios are you know endeavors .

yeah we also saw a bit of news from device this weeks about like their delayed game or work things.

I just oh yes, actually as we're talking, delve is uh delayed award or a delayed games showcase. So they just they talk about all the stuff that coming out. So we may have some news from that I ve seen .

keep keep in on com. You've all also been playing a game recently. A just tell me all about what should .

I play IT OK. so. Giving SONY land, we're going to microsoft land.

Um this is about is the new fancy action RPG from abide an and this is a studio that uh microsoft now owns out of worlds and h pillars of eternity. These are there there big ones? No yeah no and .

follow new bigger.

follow new biggest maybe no for yes, you I know um but they're a great studio like they're a good story telling studio. They really know how to build the world and the people they're care like the developers are really care about their their franchise. Um so about is like the I don't know, there's A A big era of action R P G S coming next year.

Fantasy RPG are having a huge, a huge time right now. H dragging age, the vague guard just came out. We have a vowed, we have fable. Um there's a few there's .

coming on next.

The I like a reboot.

right? H wow, okay yeah going to check .

that out especially so x box especially is going to be like dripping in R P G. Um and yeah about is like, awesome. I played IT for two hours. There was a preview I got to play at home because the first time I played IT was at an event for games come earlier this summer um and IT was fine but I couldn't really get into a you RPG you need some time to dig in and build your character so I got to do that.

I got to actually like create a character and it's this world where you have like fungus on your face because you're a god like and you're going out into the lands to discover why this evil blight is investing everything in um it's it's lovely IT IT looks great. IT plays great. The action was really smooth.

Dialogue was great. There were a lot of different trees to follow that that felt really unique for each character. Um yeah I am really excited for a out so you can read my preview. There's more there. But bottom line, this looks and .

it's you said microsoft of xbox, i'm assuming only .

yeah I believe it's x box IT will be PC as well. But I don't I ve never heard anything about playstation.

heard anything right. So maybe maybe i'll play IT on PC then. So speaking of, by the way, like IT being a so news week in general, i'm surprised though that we still saw some new gadgets announced this week, and i'm gna quickly just breathe through some of them. As always, you can get all the details on the dot com. D J.

I honestly made a lot of products this year and some of them were really well received like the new, which like a two hundred drone um this week we saw the news about uh, the announcement of the mike mini, which is a wireless microphone that you can actually just attach your iphone. Um this will probably help a lot of people who create video content on their phones get much Better audio. Um you know that Steve dan on our team who reveal a lot of D J I and you know a drowning camera content for products us seems to really like IT.

The audio can be transmitted up to four hundred meters and IT should provide like stable audio even if there's a lot of like blue host signals and wifi around because D J I says that are some like N T interview tech in here. Obviously, we're gonna to test IT out to see if it's really not gonna be up to that clean. But i'm intrigued yourself, especially because Steve has been so hype about IT. No, I microphones .

on tiktok are also like all the rage. You cannot score for longer than a couple of minutes before you see someone talking into either something that you connects to the USB c or lightning port on a phone or, you know, one of these like wireless D J I sort of things. So yeah, makes sense. D, J, I is hard into this.

We are, yes, so we see is that might be .

exactly guess. I know you, you are like you've been probably like use before one of our D J, I osm like kids that we sometimes shoot with nowadays and other team. So ah yeah, C S, we're gonna see a lot more of that a stuff. And that would be prouty helpful for us.

I think so in onesta, IT just makes me feel like a cap up star, because that's my only reference point, is just kept up interviews where they are holding those little mix.

And it's so so I will be your .

fan came here. That's good. R, C, S, videos are gonna wild, everyone. My god.

I can't wait. It's going to be amazing. I'm going to power through a couple more headlines, which is banging olive sin also this week reveal as latest premium eo bar ear budget year bars ear buddy these are the five hundred dollar B O play eleven apparently it's the most advanced active norrish cancellation uh earbuds uh to date according the company.

I would just say the most advance for olive sin yeah five hundred and four bo your boss is a lot to me, but I will wait who we get in some reunite. Um the ftc warned this week as well that in a reporter published the federal trade commission found that eighty nine percent of connected devices don't actually uh receive software support for a very long. The review a found that in eleven percent of product size that shares the information on how long devices will be supported.

Uh a lot of a lot of uh a the eleven percent of these products sides had like ambiguous ly language. You have inconsistencies about where the these were displayed. Um they did a lot of research just to find what information about support dates is available and just couldn't really find answers for sixty seven percent of the devices studied.

And like I mean, I don't know about you you guys, I have a tiny round here because I was just talking about I I had a personal situation where like my internet service provided to me a new uh, router which I had to set up uh because I rent a router, I guess and like just wanting to switch over my entire my home infrastructure over to a new SSID, which I just wanted to do because I wanted to set up a new one and be done I could not like easily. And so I like I had to set up two old networks with the the old name and and that I work. But then in the process, you find out, like some of these devices in your home don't work more or like some of these devices that I receive for free, like I don't know by attending some corporate event or whatever was like no longer working frequently.

These are like little google home mini thing is like the fifty dollar or thirty five dollar ones. And they like just, they are still in the box. They do not work anymore. And it's so embarrassing if I like, try to give IT to my parents or whatever and they they take IT out of the box and just not working is only two years old IT is crazy to me that devices don't last as long as you think they do. And I don't know if this is like just a me problem or is there something that you may be have experiences just I mean.

that's definitely a thing. I feel like there are so many different like photo frames and things, you know things that you would just buy someone and then you you truly don't know if in a year it's gona be supported or is the apps not going to work. Know it's annoying. And though there is should be disclosed.

I right. And then but the things is like I feel like companies like google or whoever SE makes heart where won't disclose this because its slight number one, they don't even know right for google is like the next year I could be in the grave. Apple, you know, whenever you say is stopped supporting some kind of IOS update, you are probably not going to be able to use that anymore. Um but I do I don't know that is an easy like a problem with an easy solution. But I just thought I was worth bringing up this week since the federal trade commission had that study, which gives us a bit more heart data.

The really annoying thing about this is all the components work too. You're breaking something that otherwise works, something that maybe like your less tex savi relatives might still want to use like a connected photo frame or something like that. And IT just sucks that you have to put this in a landfill because some company went under and the APP is no longer supported.

right? I think this is like more of that whole thing that we set of, how the world's fundamentally changed. And like social media has made enterprise and business one way. And this is another thing that I don't know that we again, can fix necessarily, but it's maybe something we have to like, realized is the way the world works. Now, I have really hope not.

But yeah, IT is into e waste. No, IT is into these larger issues that are issues for the planet. And you know, in a physical space these are issues. So yeah, I think we can do Better, right? Uh.

well, this has been an episode where we get little pieces of news and tie them to bigger trends and make connections in everything we see because such as the world, we are all in your connected uh in introd pendent hate speaking of, we are all interconnected in inter dependent. Are you working on anything this week? Yes, this is the working on section of the podcast.

Yeah I mean, game awards. It's all game words. I've seen a few briefings and we're getting we're getting some news in where it's going to be a fun show. So december twelve, join us and i'll have a bunch of lake stories about the ecosystem know councils and where we are, where SONY is, where microsoft t tis. So beyond the look out decembers every month for gaming.

I love that for us. I pray for you that you get some not not you don't get overworked. It's always saying for me working on hopefully nothing the rest of the team is making.

I know the rest of you was working very hard on, you know all the black pretty taking give you know guide type things that um you will probably see a lot of on our website. I mean, this is kind of what is going on in the world right now. So that's how covering IT. And but if you ever do get tired of being inundated ted with shopping pigs or I, yes, live uh, we have some pop culture picks for you just I think you mentioned this already earlier in the show, but what are you watching or doing?

Yeah, we talked about mine. So it's it's a renaissance robo shows right now. Uh real housewives of salt like city is off the charts.

Good so delicious the community theatre of housewives there just delusional people being delusion on camera it's fabulous. Um and then yeah i'd like there there are the real housewife shows that are also doing great right now. The new real house wives of new york don't bother with IT, but the rest of them doing pretty good. A pommie is also having a good season.

okay. Yeah, I I would think I would be interested in the new york one actually, but so I guess not, uh.

the old new york. Any of the old seasons of housewives of new york are gold. Start from the beginning. You can't go wrong. These people are ridiculous. And like the joy of housewives is to laugh at rich people like this is, this is why I like watching IT and they they take themselves so seriously is hilarious it's hilarious so yeah that's that's what that's what I do but the the new rebooted rony new york is is not good so bother with the reboot but the old stuff is fabulous all right .

good to know um I watch a different kind of reality T V, and we've talked about this in our own lake conversations. But I do enjoy watching love is blind or all the dating reality. And I love watching youtube therapies talk about that sort of behavior.

I think you and I watched reality T V for the same reason, which is not that we want to keep up with people, people what we love to like, make fun of the people, or I learn from bad behaviors and what not to do, I guess. Um however, my pic for everyone else this week is not a reality T, V show. IT is smile to a the sea goal to the original horr movie smile.

And everybody says, this is one of those rare times, I think, where the is actually much Better. The original just you watch this too, right? Did you like .

absolutely absolutely and its way Better than the original legs smile too shocked me with how good IT was so yeah highly recommended.

It's about this pop star who um has a sort of trouble pass with like substance abuse and that sort of stuff and uh is haunted by this demand that manifests as people smiling creepy at her and I I never knew that. I think it's a bit logical to think that someone is smiling and you can be but IT was ridiculously creepy. And I really like that about the movie.

I also like the commentary, unlike fame, and like similar to those toxics who are talking about, right, social media and fame. And also, why do people expect certain behaviors from famous people? Why do you think they they owe a signature? Why do they owe their time and attention? I don't think anyone knows anyone, anything really, but here we are. So smile too. I think that's available in .

who I saw in theaters, old .

school and I know, right? It's even creep. Peer IT was.

yeah, was good.

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