Descent is a key part of a man's development, traditionally experienced through rites of passage. It involves separation from the known, connecting with the soul, and recognizing the presence of the feminine within. This process helps a man become more rounded, compassionate, and self-aware, but modern culture often lacks these formal rituals, leading to informal and often destructive descents through bottoming out or addiction.
Modern technology serves as a distraction from the deeper psychological and spiritual growth that occurs through descent. It substitutes for the 'technology of the sacred' found in traditional cultures, leading to a focus on external achievements rather than internal reflection. This externalization can prevent individuals from finding the inner depth and wisdom necessary for personal and collective renewal.
Signs of a man's descent include feeling that everything is wrong, blaming others, experiencing deep self-loathing, and feeling isolated. These feelings can lead to depression or repeated negative patterns if not guided properly. Traditional cultures would recognize these signs and provide support and rituals to help individuals navigate this process.
The old worldview has collapsed due to the rapid changes in the modern world, which institutions and traditional structures can't keep up with. This collapse has led to collective despair and a sense of aimlessness. The modern existential view that the world is accidental and meaningless contributes to this despair, but mythology suggests that the world undergoes cycles of collapse and renewal, offering hope and deeper meaning.
Descent leads to a deeper connection with one's inner self or soul, bringing insights and understanding of one's unique character and purpose. It often involves encountering intense emotions like rage and fear, but these can transform into a more balanced and compassionate psyche. The descent is a necessary step for personal growth and resilience, akin to the alchemical process of tempering a sword.
Water symbolizes rebirth and the washing away of the old self to allow for a new, more tempered and flexible identity. In traditional practices, immersion in water was used to cleanse and renew both individuals and communities. For men, water represents the need to connect with and understand their emotions, leading to empathy, compassion, and a more integrated sense of self.
Practical ways to connect with the 'water' of life include jumping into natural bodies of water, engaging with poetry or laments, and trusting and following one's feelings. These practices can help a man reawaken his soul, feel sorrow, and gain a deeper understanding of his inner emotional landscape, leading to greater empathy and connectedness.
Talking points: masculinity, psychology, myth, Jung
Hot on the heels of the legendary John Lee, I interviewed another founding elder of men's work: Michael Meade. This is a powerful discussion focused on how essential "descent" is for men, and how it's almost completely disappeared from society in favor of endless, destructive growth and commodified "mastery". Powerful words from one of the wisest teachers out there, in my opinion.
(00:00:00) - The importance of descent in a man’s life
(00:11:51) - The signs of descent, and the role of technology
(00:22:28) - How the old worldview has collapsed, and the result is collective despair and grief
(00:29:39) - How do you deal with the feeling that things are ending?
(00:35:20) - The intersection of myth and AI; will they come together?
(00:41:29) - Where does the descent actually lead, and the symbolism of water and sword
(00:55:13) - How to “get the water”
Michael Meade, born and raised in New York City, is a renowned storyteller, author, and scholar of mythology, anthropology, and psychology. He combines hypnotic and fiery storytelling, street-savvy perceptiveness, and spellbinding interpretations of ancient myths with a deep knowledge of cross-cultural rituals. His ability to tap into ancestral sources of wisdom to help people of today heal their communities has inspired thousands of people throughout the world. His unique translations of age-old myths and symbols into culturally relevant, everyday language earned him an honorary Doctorate in Humane Letters from Pacifica Graduate Institute. Michael is also the founder of Mosaic Multicultural Foundation and author of The Genius Myth, The Water of Life, The World Behind the World, Fate and Destiny, and Why the World Doesn't End. He is co-editor of The Rag and Bone Shop of the Heart, and editor of the cross-cultural anthology on rites of passage:* Crossroads: A Quest for Contemporary Rites of Passage*.
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