5LQ Episode 342: Jonathan Pokluda
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In this episode of the 5 Leadership Questions podcast, Todd Adkins and Daniel Im are joined by Jonathan Pokluda, lead pastor of Harris Creek, former leader of the Porch, and author of Welcome to Adulting. During their conversation, they discuss Jonathan's transition from The Porch to Harris Creek and how our phones are affecting our lives. BEST QUOTES "The whole context of leading has changed for me from leading a staff of 150 to leading a staff of 15."

"I think you are leading well when people are making fun of you for saying your values so much."

"What do we need to keep doing? What do we need to start doing? What do we need to stop doing?"

"We don't talk about people, we talk to people."

"What makes you love God more?"

"It was your weakness that got you in ministry, but you think your giftedness will keep you there."

"The idea of deep meditation is something that's always been asked of Christians, but right now even the secular world is catching on."

"We are looking at our phone thousands of times a day and it is killing us with comparison."

"Our phone is the adulteress woman now."

"I lived my adult life studying Millennials, then Gen Z shows up on the scene."

"I've wrestled with is it a calling to young adults or a calling to the Millennial generation?" RECOMMENDED RESOURCES Lifeway Leadership Podcast Network

Welcome to Adulting by Jonathan Pokluda

The Porch

Harris Creek

A Praying Life by Paul Miller

The Tech-Wise Family by Andy Crouch

Becoming Something Podcast

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