cover of episode AI is burying company web sites in search results, but Otterly.AI thinks it can help

AI is burying company web sites in search results, but Otterly.AI thinks it can help

2024/12/19
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Otterly.ai CEO Thomas Peeham: AI生成的搜索结果导致许多公司网站的有机流量下降,许多查询不再产生点击,即使有点击,公司也很难获取更多上下文信息。为此,Otterly.ai提供AI搜索可见性优化服务,帮助公司监控和优化其在AI搜索结果中的表现。Otterly.ai已经突破了1000用户里程碑,并从每月跟踪改为每周跟踪,以便营销团队可以进行实验,快速了解哪些内容有效。公司计划添加推荐引擎,并与SEMrush建立合作伙伴关系,以进一步提升服务能力。 无明确发言人: 2024年,许多网站的有机流量下降,很大程度上是由于AI生成的搜索结果兴起。Google的AI概述功能导致了零点击搜索的增加,使得依赖有机搜索流量的公司受到了影响。AI搜索可见性优化需要营销团队考虑品牌定位和品牌可见性,这与传统的SEO有所不同。Otterly.ai的出现是为了解决ChatGPT等AI工具对搜索结果的影响,帮助公司更好地适应新的搜索环境。 无明确发言人: Otterly.ai的CEO创立公司是为了解决ChatGPT对搜索的影响。公司计划依靠客户群增长,目标是成为AI搜索领域的SEMrush或Ahrefs。

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Many sites saw their organic traffic decline in 2024, in big part due to the rise of AI-generated search results. Many queries no longer lead to click-throughs, and even when users click, it is hard for companies to get more context on searches made within apps like ChatGPT or Perplexity.

The answer to this problem is sometimes called generative engine optimization, or GEO, in a not-too-SEO. Some call it AI search visibility optimization, which is a bit longer, but I believe is a bit more accurate, said Otterly.ai CEO Thomas Peeham.

Like New York-based competitor Profound, the Austrian startup builds dashboards to help companies and ad agencies monitor and optimize their presence in AI results. But while Profound is still in closed beta, Otterly is exiting stealth mode after passing the 1,000-user milestone, PM told TechCrunch exclusively.

You may have heard of Otterly before. It launched on Product Hunt earlier this year to some success. Then Google shook everything up. To be honest, the reality was we rebuilt the product from scratch after Google introduced AI overviews in May, PM said.

AI overviews are Google's implementation of AI-powered results, often resulting in so-called zero-click searches where users never go beyond the search engine. As AI overviews start rolling out globally, companies who relied on organic search traffic are feeling the sting. PM gave the example of a SaaS business that saw its organic search presence decline in the US only to realize through

"Oddly" that Google showed AI Overview such results for half of its SEO keywords. The next question is how to make this knowledge actionable, especially when LLMs are often described as a black box. That's one reason why "Oddly" plans to add a recommendation engine and, in the meantime, why it went from monthly to weekly tracking so marketing teams can conduct experiments to optimize their content and quickly see what might be working or not.

While this tinkering is partially akin to SEO, clicks are less of a focus. I think calling it AI search visibility optimization really highlights the aspect that we as marketing teams also need to think about our brand position, our brand visibility, PM said.

PM himself spent most of his career in marketing. A former VP of marketing at CMS company Storyblock, he started utterly to scratch his own itch and understand how ChatGPT was impacting search from a brand perspective. Eventually, he teamed up with two co-founders, Joseph Trauner and Klaus M. Schremser, who are respectively the former CEO and head of growth at UserSnap, a user feedback platform they sold to SaaS.Group in 2023.

Having two co-founders helps them all split tasks, with Schremser focused on operations and product and Trauner on technical aspects.

It doesn't hurt either that the pair had an exit together. His incubator, GrowWTF, also supported Otterly, but the startup won't seek external funding, PM said. Instead, he said Otterly plans to keep on growing with its customer base, with the ambition to become what SEMrush or RFs are for SEO, but in the AI search space. There's always a risk that these companies may want to expand their scope and become direct competitors.

but Otterly is hoping they can work together and plans to announce details of a partnership with SEMrush next month, PM said.