Episode 909: M4 iMac, M4 MacBook Pro, M4 Mac mini reviews
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Apples new and for max started shipping last friday, and we have the new mac mini, imac and mac book pro in house. Why are these some of the most exciting max to hit the market? Find out on this episode of the macro pod test?

Welcome to the market podcast. I'm from the loyal here with chasen cross.

Good morning.

and Michael Simon.

No, sir.

We posted reviews of the new max at the end of last week. So on today show, we're going to talk about our impressions.

So before we get into tight the specifics, yes, in your so you guys review them, you review a lot of max go to you. Is this like the biggest mac .

launch like ever?

I like at one up.

I I feel like, uh, well, okay. So the big this deal was the switch to apple. Sick like that, just kind of .

shock every but .

they know ah they they .

roll and they .

roll those out more over time. This discovers more areas, discovers laptop this top other like all in one kind of all of ones. So we don't have a macbook air, but it's you know we're still wait on a couple of days .

double the RAM, which is also, you know so yeah in the shorter .

but and we also got in three years, we didn't have and three mac mines and we and right right we have we still wait on a mac studio. And so so biggest ever, I don't know, but I think the combination of the factors are hitting does not all the one laptop. And some of these models are going from in them too to the and for now, they didn't get every update along the way. Kind of makes IT feel like its monumental. Plus the and four turns out to be pretty good.

Yeah, IT feels like apple silicon on has really kind of come back to its own now like what we expected from apple celeBrant like like the year over year, speed bumps know the kind of design overhauls, even like new features. And we got twice the RAM now like everything that we wanted from the first launch that we didn't quite get couple years ago. IT seems like it's it's here. And if it's not here right now.

it's gonna here in a couple months. Yeah, the doubling the area is just long overdo.

So kind, of course.

that together with putting all these other products out is makes things feel like really monumental. And somebody, to your point, like somebody can measured IT, these things have been getting fifteen percent faster every generation. Well, for anyone that and for that adds up a lot.

Like, like then suddenly you've got, like your cheap computer is faster than you're really, really expensive computer was just a few years ago. Like you can get a mac. Many now that cause half as much as a max studio from three years ago and is faster like it's beating all those. And one ultra max studios, if you pot one of those just like ha ha for .

three thousand .

dollars less, you can get a faster machine down, right? And I feels .

like throughout those until years for so many generations, that was just like here's a little couple more mega hurts. And maybe this feature or that feature like this feels like apple was really using the chip to kind of look at every line and how IT can be Better, how IT can be proved improved year over year. And you know like about the mac mini in a couple minutes, but like it's it's pretty remarkable like what the the m for mac mini for five hundred ninety nine box gives you like. It's it's probably the I mean, it's deadly the best PC in its Price range but is probably the best or in the top ten budget pcs you can buy anywhere.

Yeah um this is the next many for people who are watching the stream. It's it's like you they tell you it's small and then you're just like, yeah, I get IT it's small and then you actually cold and you're like, oh yeah that is very small and it's very quiet and you could certainly buy a faster six hundred dollar windows PC, but it's gonna be a big noisy box, right? The sort of the crossroads that theyve achieved of size, quiet, power efficient and high performance isn't really found anywhere else. Like, you know, every boy's like going to rest the reply two hundred dollars like, but it's a do anywhere near what this is.

not even like you to know what to do if you buy that very pie. It's not going to just work out of the box like the magni.

This is like a really great deal in the base models, right? And then IT quickly becomes a really bad, I think A M K B D in a couple of the other youtube s brought this up and their reviews as well, like the five ninety nine bm four model, now that IT has sixteen gigs, like a base m for regular non pro enforce really great.

It's really cash. Like to use some serious .

video editing and all that other stuff. You don't get a keyboard, you don't get a track pad, you need a monitor. You need, you know, there's this cavy tt and they cavy at is well, has two or pretty six days of storage, kind of stinks.

And then you have one more storage. And apple charging like five or six times would like they charge. They charge more to go to fifty six to five twelve, then buying an empire to terrible in that to drive that is like really, really high performance. Like it's so the upgrade pricing is insane.

It's funny because like I hasn't changed in years. Like this is apple's update .

Price changed .

you when you make a base model that's so good IT just feels worse this time of even worse .

that I did for .

the old m tools and h you know the the old machines but part .

that part of its that part of its also just you know they haven't um they have to change this up. Great Prices like and so .

and the market .

is getting other things are getting cheaper like you know, i'm surprised they changed existing computers like the back look error to have sixteen gigs around. Glad they did. But IT just makes you look at their actual RAM pricing. You go like what how?

Yeah so yeah, thank you. Look, if you find a deal now I got amazon or or something for an aid gig, macbook air and three, it's like you don't like write for what one don't get IT IT really shows you because like the sixteen gig is like fifty dollars more. Now before that was two hundred dollars more.

So apple, is that like the margins are clearly at a walk. But apple, I don't like we we knew apple at some point was going to go up to sixteen gigs around. We were hoping IT was this year and and IT happened. I don't know that they're gone to change their upgrade pricing ever.

Well, no um yeah and they always have these nice whole numbers, but they can change how much you get for those OK.

Yes OK like one of .

the things that I found found. So this one here that we reviewed is and is the m4 pro right？ Which one of more GPU double? The GPU started twenty four gigs right and over him.

And the version we have the version with the full and four process. So that's fourteen core C P U, twenty cord P U, the best model. This is twelve core C P U, sixteen court G P U and twenty four years.

And it's fourteen hundred box again, pretty and IT starts five, twelve gigs of source again. That's a pretty different, different and hundred and you start making IT like this one, two hundred more to get the full of force, four hundred dollars more to step up the ramp for E K. salts.

You know, it's the same story. It's not great. But what I found really interesting is it's four hundred dollars to take the m four perversion from twenty four forty eight gigs.

Is that the first memory job? You go twenty four to forty eight? Four hundred dollars.

That's twelve gigs for two hundred dollars, essentially two hundred dollars on the regular and for mac. Many get you eight case right. Why is IT eight here in twenty?

Like then I going to change two hundred box. That's there. Their experiments.

even on the story, two hundred thousand.

like you get, you get a two hundred for this fifty six six bites of storage for two hundred box. You also get I think five twelve if you got five twelve to one ten for hundred.

even money. It's not even money. It's completely arbitrary. And it's not like they're or forty percent more expensive than even buying retail stuff, you know. And apple's start paying retail, there're like five times as expected is like a it's completely at a walk. So it's like a really easy computer to love because it's so fast, it's so quite, is so small as thonging five that has you know the B I H D M I miss having a USB a port yeah yeah you know um you're gonna to hub because there are still U S, B, A stuff out there like going to get a memory of tub drive from somebody .

or microphone text is still out there.

Yeah you know, I have a very modern logitech mouse and it's little receiver, is a USB a receiver. And I can change IT a blue tooth mode that then a little lagged and whatever. So that exists.

You're gonna need a hub. But so these models, great, really easy love, so fast, so small, so quiet, easy Prices for yo. It's apples, still a little expensive, but like decent prize.

And then immediately, the second you start upgrading IT, you just like, yeah, what now is so expensive? Now is so expensive. I hate IT. Yes.

I mean, you can very quickly get into to two thousand dollars.

So when we reviewed is over two thousand dollars, it's about twenty two hundred one hundred bucks that that is ten gig of IT either in which a lot of people don't need um but that he has the rain upgrade .

and the full and .

IT has more storage yeah and it's a great computer and it's funny that IT is more powerful than my max studio, which is an an empty max max studio. An entry level max studio is up about the same Price that much. It's way faster and story .

you can can buy a your dangerous drive. You can buy A U, S, B, C drive and get White, cheaper external storage. You're stuck with the and thankfully, they they gave you sixteen gigs before. When they gave you aid, you were basically tacking to, and I was on to the base model of every very much .

is old well and for the m4 pro， they give you twenty four even Better k even less need to upgrade that when we for .

right now ah that is all that stuff yeah and .

even for a few years, you know and like you're doing massive audio production, the stuff and crazy .

A K video.

you know, I saw a lot of people, I saw a lot of people who are like consecrations and stuff. And they are like, I will buy one of these just to have IT as my travel computer. Yes, sure. I can see that like instead of working on a macbook all the time, like if i'm going somewhere and i'm going be doing a butcher stuff and i've got a hotel, I want a monitor and stuff, I will bring this vision, I think.

Like this is the first. The first mac mini is actually mini, like before rote, an article as we can. The fun like IT was like a makino where IT was in. But I IT was why I was still kind of why the footprint wasn't IT small. But not like this is like insanely small when you when you get one, when you see one, it's like, wow like so that .

sort of seven ha inch square where the same size is an act studio but like skinny, yeah you know which is for for a test stop computer is small. It's definitely a small desktop computer, but it's nothing like this little thing like this is great. This is Jason published .

the thing last friday. Just a fun little article comparing at all different common things. And I was like, wow, this thing is really frequent small .

put you put a magic track pad on top and I just covers the whole thing.

It's really impressive. And this is what we've wanted to see to bring you back to the original al point from apple silicon from like table. Like we knew this is where apple was going. IT took a couple years. They celebrate macbook .

pro .

and you know like we'll see that imac is going to probably get every design in two or three years too, like we're going to see some real, hopefully once again, revolutionary design.

When they they they announced staple scan at wwdc, they said we can. The reason they were doing about the picture. So we are we can imagine future computers that we can build with intel, right like right that we that we have to because they have to serve all these other customers like we need to be in control of making things in the way we need them to and already make these future products. And the this mini feels like the first of those that I I am not as much. I feel like they could done that like .

that's a laptop in a 也是 um but .

yeah the max studio kind of started to feel like that too。 That was like for the power that you got in that especially with the ultra like IT was like but that's a really small thing for what that is. I really can't wait for them to do in m for ultron.

Sure they will next spring. Yeah, but we're getting mac studio updates next spring once they get the m for ultra. We know they're not skipping IT like they skip the m three cultural because they're going to update all of their cloud a eyes servers to IT. They're all doing and tours now and they're y're going into that.

They need all that rem and stuff. So first time, all of apples max are running the same generation of apples elegant ship, which is, you know fairly monumental. That's a that's a big deal.

Yeah makes you wonder if that will be the regular thing going for, right, if they're sort of reengineering all the internals to make IT so that it's easier to make the given and then just update all the products?

Yeah, I mean, to make sense, if there are control of of the whole manufacturing in the fabrication of the chip, there were rumors a couple years ago back when there was all those production issues that they wanted to get the mac on this kind of annual locators, but they put into because they can only get certain chips that they had a priority. Different amount. That's why the imaging and get IT in to that's why the maximum hasn't got the m three. But now that everything seems to be you working and running smoothly again.

you know we'll see new problems again, full see. So when the mac .

mini was introduced, IT was discovered that the power button is on the bottom of IT. And we said during that around yeah we said that turned out amounts and we didn't think he was a big deal. But now just you used to mac money for a while. Has has your expect change on that at all?

no. I mean, it's it's one of those things that's just so visibly dumb. They're like we had to it's like you couldn't put IT here. You really .

you really couldn't put .

IT here like your .

apple like that ah if .

you feel like I feel .

like IT but a cost, I think .

this saves you like fifteen cents in like internal structure and IT, whatever. So but but you don't put it's like it's small, it's smaller enough that you're gonna put a bunch of stuff on IT where you can't just kind lifted up a tiny bit pressed, but it's not that big a deal. You're going to press the power button five times a year. It's one of things you look at. You're just like there are obviously Better solutions for customers than this, so can can reach .

your finger under there with that lifting IT there. There is A A friend that raises IT by about a .

quarter interest. Yeah, you you can kind of see IT on here. You know if this is on a desk, I can't. I have really skinners. So like a child, maybe good people are making of these like silly, little like plastic 3 printed things。

It's a to void opportunity .

to avoid like five, six times a year lifting IT, lifting this one pound computer a two millimeters.

that you can press the body five, six times a year if that like the mac isn't designed to be restarted or shut down every day like it's yeah even when smart enough, you don't have to do that .

even when you're restarting IT because of the software update or something, it's fully rebuilding. You don't need IT the power bun. It's only if you powered down, you lost power, you get power out of or something. You know that kind of powering IT down just doesn't happen a lot and you can lift IT a little thing impress step button is not a .

big deal and it's small enough. You can really put a monitor on IT like the old .

mini yeah was like .

a monitor stand as well because I was so that was relatively wide.

Yeah.

my studio and I don't think so. Oh, so they go. So what the new max studio, are they going to do the same thing? I think.

no, I don't think so. I.

To some batches of god.

I hope not. Now they have, but they have a love more space on the back. So I don't think it's saving them anything. But this is smaller than the base of a studio delay or something and .

a and it's .

just not tall enough to make a difference. So so you can't this actually fits nicely except for that the power ports are here on the little foot of the two years display on top of IT can put IT IT on like the series display is practically a stand for this instead of the other way around except that the parts are in the back. So yeah it's yeah the power button is one of those things that everyone made a big deal about IT because even though it's not consequential, it's just like worse in a really obvious and dumb way just put in on the back somewhere.

It's not like apple hasn't done IT before.

Something like that's like .

that's the joke they always .

make or like the notch on the macbook. I still don't quite understand why it's so why like they make decisions sometimes that they don't they try to explain them indian interviews. And it's like what that doesn't make sense, that doesn't really make sense.

Anything else about the make me you know, I kind of wish that they made in a different .

color something dealers.

I wonder that will come in space .

great because that's like the procol. Now like the the next one, that's stead. I'll be an option. I won't be surprised.

I would even accept that they if they made the space very only available if you get the m four pro, like even I would even accept that clear of dumb artificial.

They used to do that. They do that with the intel.

yes. And a little surprised that they didn't offer IT in imac collars. I thought when they and they introduced a new imac couple days prior, that they were going to, you know, have a bunch analyzed blue and origin pinking stuff like that would make IT more of a consumer product and also be some more yeah .

I mean the other that there's nothing else to say. They are just like with the other mak I that they changed all the accessories to be USB c. There are not different any other way.

Replace to the lightning with the U S. B, C. And that's what you get. They vents been updated.

We are which we expected.

Yeah for those part.

Yeah, James, as a full review of the m four promazine on network com link and I shown us to checkout the apple also released new macbook process based on the enforce. So there's a new base and for and that sounds by the looks of at apple, basically touch of all the feedback that they gotten. They made IT right? They made IT a true pro a lot top .

this time for the first time in a long, long time. There's an entry level pro machine that is an actual like lower construction of .

the process yeah because IT was kind of a weird when they introduced the m one.

IT was the twelve, the outside the city.

which wasn't .

really A O when I was intel. IT was just a smaller, ever closer than the. So once they design, once they redesigned, the macbook grows with the m no, the m was a the m one. Roman .

sixteen and fortunate sixteen came out, but they still kept that .

for a generation too long.

Yeah, then we've dubbed IT with him three. But then they, uh, with that, this model yet like IT only had a kick back around and only had two thunderous horns, was weird like they couldn't make up their mind whether they want to make IT a pro machine, or whether they want to make a.

There were sacrifices that if you were a real pro user, you wouldn't even consider that model because I just wasn't enough. you. And if you add IT all the things back, you got to the fourteen and M M three pro model so you might have just buy that one. But now like if you are a casual pro or just a pro that doesn't have two thousand and dollars plus to spend the fifty ninety nine model, which you can get cheaper on amazon couple is some shore is you know leg m really good to sixteen years around um you get in in space black, which is nice. Has has A A third thunderball .

it's it's yeah IT also has now the nano texture .

display option hundred .

is one hundred years. I prefer IT more the yes, great. Uh, the colors are going to be as viBrant death on the glossy, the black are going to be A D but .

it's start far. You're not give you up and stop like IT suddenly looks all great to wash them like IT took a little bit and honestly, to cut down on the glare. You come out way ahead there right? Yeah, yeah, yeah IT IT is on .

a right yeah in my estimation is worth more on the book o to be the something like that or even I like .

I wait for apple to make IT a feature of all the pro iphones yeah yes.

that's the only device you .

came over for, just like something to differentiate IT especially sense like this year the non pro iphones had so much that you are just like. So I really need the pro like you just be another .

way they can differentiate IT. It's the only screen apple makes that .

does not have that. You.

well, I like one more and I pet.

yes.

I I mean, I have the nano texture display on on the mac books and on the eye c, we'll talk about the second. But I was and I was thinking about IT on the iphone, but I was wondering if there is that the ano texture .

and you can get .

IT on the at least .

maybe it's only on the big one. And I wonder if the act has anything to do the impact resistance like yeah how how .

how shout approve IT is isn't a good .

point yeah the apple with .

the macbook prosed a nice up greatest. They finally get rid of the D P. Face time camera yes, upgraded twelve negative s pixel center stage camera. Finally, it's funny because in a way, what you can look at the laptops and think how these are features they should have been including since from the uh, on the other hand, you could take up these are nice features that they add instead of just having a your typical chip upgrade yeah I mean.

this is so they hold back features so when they get them IT feels like it's say, ga, bigger update may be the .

way they do IT on the ipad. I just like up. I had a big time. Not that it's just like on the larger model, it's on the high storage .

models to so but it's kind of .

very good. And then you pay more for antitch.

You have basically spending of these two grand .

on your I at .

least yeah.

it's what I mean, but gotta buy .

a new apple pencil .

to go with IT. So now you bought a macbook pro for a thousand dollars more.

Macbook pro.

But now the back macbook, the base and for a base macbook pro, which had an m three now and for it's a Better deal of the Prices did not change. So that's great cold thing about IT. So that makes you a Better deal now because he .

is across the board of all the max apple released, with the exception of the high and mac mini, are the same. That one was twice nine and nine before. Now was thirteen thousand and nine.

But otherwise they're the same, which you know we shouldn't celebrate such things, but it's up. Yes, there are times that they give us more RAM. If they give us a higher chip, sometimes they add fifty .

books yeah any time they don't raise the Price, that feels like a discount, which is not a compliment .

that I feel like.

which is how posed to work. yes. Like honestly, if you look at the early days of apple, they were giving you much, much more year on year and the Price is going out a lot like surely apple computers yeah super expensive and they kept dropping and dropping and dropping the Price.

So and i'm not that's how technology supposed to work. Think the same Price supposed to get more and more and castrate Better. It's also the the mac is also the only place you get the end for max chip right now.

Yes.

so I did. There's no desktop computer of any kind yet. And and then when they do IT, it'll just be the max studio. There's this a sort of persistent rumors that there's going to be some sort of imac pro like A A bigger fence here um and and even that may only but design that come in m four pro.

No.

it's just so that might only be m4 pro。 You may not have A X option. So IT might only be max studio that you can meet the Maxine. I expect that to be an awesome computer. They'll be a information base model with forty eight six are at a five topic S S D for like nineteen ninety nine or twenty one ninety nine or something that'll be that'll be not be an awesome .

best no up. Speaking of awesome test P, I do think the new imac is a pretty awesome best top now because it's uh with the end for um that also got a new uh the center stage top make pix of front camera. There are three standard configurations.

The bed twelve ninety nine models still has two ports I don't think is such a great deal. But then if you step up to the four ninety nine, I want to say sixty ninety nine model, you get four ports. And this time there are all thunder able ports, where in the past they were two thunderbolts and two U.

S, B, C. ports. So yeah, these are four thunder, able four.

What you also get for stepping up from that twelve ninety nine to forty forty ninety nine. You get the magic keyboard .

version that .

has touch I D you a get the place which is.

I think.

fifty six to eight books like we wrote this two years ago. IT has really changed. IT makes a lot of sense to get that fourteen ninety nine .

model yeah IT is that that sort of it's also the full and for like it's it's the ten core C P U, ten core G P U, the other ones cut down to A C P U, A G P U. So is what you get for that two hundred bucks pretty good. I still think you're going to be going to want to buy a computer with two thousand, a fifty six games of storage like in all of one desktop that you're gona keep for years and you're not going to swap out replace. You probably still need to buy more storage at least the sixteen ninety nine is it's just the you .

can get a really fast external drive and np.

And so yeah, if you just things to store your data on, like your core applications, you run all the time.

Yeah and the they also all models come in all colors now, which is nice. Before I was that weird split where the base model came in certain ones and then they had to get they all, if you want blue, you can get blue. And although and read and yellow in the colors are a little bit different, they don't look that much different from what i've seen. But we can help you .

less than something .

strong. How about that viBrant kind of the wrong work because that makes you .

sound like not what they're more they're not patil, but they're more passed in the old days.

Yeah, it's like they turned IT down just a tiny, but just a little bit .

IT still looks nice on the on the website when you see the the rainbow. Yeah, yes, there they are pretty.

We got a blue one. I like the blue. I like the big, bright colors. So and I like they were like.

the back matches. Is the front closer than I did before? I was like a pretty stark different.

The back was like very, very, very deep and the front wasn't I don't know why they don't have the same color and the front but I don't quite understand that, but it's a little bit different um there there they're really nice if you want in all want a computer with the display he nag. And to get anything Better, he just won't. I don't even know if they exist. Jason knows more about PC than I do, but did he does anyone make anything that even close to the imac on the PC side like an all in one?

Oh yeah that I mean the all in ones to are still a category um that you know uh H P and others two, they're not like a thin and colorful and stuff. They're the more the more plain and everything but like it's the popularity of the owner, one has diminished a lot in the landscape because more people now just use laptops.

I mean, I think that that's true. The I I I I don't know what apple number ers don't break out. Assume there is the way selling yeah next to maybe in the metro .

I mean somewhere and any Price ranger looking at there, i'd rather get I would personally rather get a mac mini and a monitor, not an apple monitor. Exit is the Price yeah thing but like an equivalent yeah and also can get something you can get twenty seven and just twenty four. You probably like that Better. You can get a Better quality display and a mac mini kind of for the Price of similar Price to to and one. And i'd rather do that because then you can just replace connect me in a couple years and not the whole a little more.

Uh, so overall, uh, mike was asking at the begin of the show, you know three, if this was a monumental release. I don't know if it's monumental, but to me, these mac releases are a lot more compelling than they have been for a while, even maybe even more compelling than the m one is. The m one was was just pure brute.

The m one was a shock in the sense that is like apple just burst onto the scene and delivered like twice the power of anything that they had been doing. Yeah, but now it's like we're really seeing the benefit of, you know, when you make everything yourself from the from the computer to the silicon, like you can really do impressive things, revolutionary things, maybe if you want to use that word that apple wouldn't be able to do if they were still buying .

chips from another company. But also the m one release was basically we're putting these .

new ships in these .

old four of the imac.

Even that was a few months later, like the the first the first batch of m mones, which came out about yeah that almost exactly four years, three years ago, three years ago, but twenty four years years ago. Um like yet as roman t said, they were the old chasses with part. In fact, people open them up. And like this summer space. And here is ridiculous because IT need all .

really different parts. I feel like I made this huge difference in the macbook air where yeah but he said we didn't get a new design yet. But the performance shot up so much more to the old air .

and the battle .

at the same time, like both, just like took at one time. And and we started looking at IT going like, it's a shame this is in a lap times like these huge bezzle and stuff that just kind of a day compared to the rest industry. And IT took him another year to like, give us a new design, a new error design, which is now my favorite.

Like that's my I almost I wish I had H D R. And I only you need promotion. I don't care about a higher reference er rate or variable reference night. I just want HDR on a macbook air that's the perfect size and wait to like Carry around and use IT on the couch whatever yeah yeah so yeah they just they needed there so .

speak of the macbook there are so yeah when we get word .

yeah the word .

is that we're gonna get inform macbook cares early twenty twenty five which probably means like march either .

yeah either march or wwdc like that special gear to much march, April or W W T C yeah last year I want to say they came out in like me or something on march. When did .

you the m three update?

Yeah or this is was twenty, twenty five. Oh, now we got a look. Sorry, everybody.

I wrote the review .

and I can remember that out. I'm looking the press really so yeah early march. Um I don't think apple needs to have an event for that. Um maybe if you take everything the next to you, maybe I do you display or something. Maybe I wouldn't be surprised if .

we get a new iphone S E. At the same time. That be that could be in a way. But I think that I think that's what we're going to get is we're going to get mac studio and macbook air kind of at the same time ish. There was spring and all that's gonna come before wwdc, which is gonna be all about the second generation of apple intelligence.

Yeah.

yes, it's told .

you're .

you yeah.

Do you think .

they'll .

get an eleven gen ipad two because that's daily device dos?

I don't know. I mean, to give a gigs yeah yeah that's a heavy lift. And to all those things will really come out in march .

and you d have to have .

a eighteen yeah like the mini.

Yeah, I can think they can do that well.

We have reviews of all the new and for max on our website to go to mark world dot com and check those out for more information that doesn't for this episode, the macro el podcast, episode nine hundred and nine. Thanks to Jason cross.

Thank you.

Thanks to Michael Simon.

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