John is joined by Kara Swisher—celebrated chronicler of the titans of tech, host of the podcast *On With Kara Swisher *and cohost of the *Pivot *podcast with Scott Galloway, and author of the best-selling memoir *Burn Book—*to discuss Apple's embrace of A.I., Elon Musk's broadsides against the company, and Silicon Valley's newfound enthusiasm for Donald Trump. Then renowned political scribe and Primary Colors author Joe Klein stops by to mourn the passing of his and John's friend and former colleague, Howard Fineman.
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