At the UN General Assembly next week, Ukraine's President Zelensky will present his 'plan for victory' to world leaders. Key to that victory, he thinks, is being allowed to shoot British-made 'Storm Shadow' missiles into Russian territory. Keir Starmer agrees, Joe Biden does not. Is Biden right to be worried - or is this all part of a wider plan by the president to bring us closer to some kind of peace?
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Guest: Mark Urban, writer and columnist, The Sunday Times.
Host: Luke Jones.
**Clips: **BFBS Forces News, CBC, FT.
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Further reading: Are Russia and Ukraine edging towards an endgame?)
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