Oh boy, so we dive into this episode figuring out what's going on with Java EE 8 (and 9), pay our respects to java.net (it's now decommissioned), dive into Kotlin (this one seems to stick), and then discuss how JS is not as wild-west as it used to be (and some MVC pattern disagreements). In all, entertaining, and interesting podcast. DO follow us on twitter @offheap)
