The Best Of The Pick Up - "Risks Have Been Taken"
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Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life on Cap. I'm Laura. I'm Brittany. And this is our radio show, The Pickup, where we package up all the best bits of what was said on radio and we bring here for you to listen to the end. It was a fun week, but I'm not going to lie, the best part was the fact that I did go to Italy. That wasn't part of the show. It was not. Absolutely not. I'm just saying it now. She's in the ether right now. She's off somewhere laying on her back drinking an Aperol Spritz, probably doing other things on her back. Hey, do you want to know?

what this year since New Year's Eve I have had half a drink of alcohol well done I didn't even finish it I did not I was like you know what I'm gonna have a drink with Keisha and I

I had like two sips and I was like, I don't actually even fancy it and didn't finish it. That's it this year. So have you made that as a conscious decision or did it just kind of rolled into itself? Not really. I mean, you know, Laura, but maybe a lot of people don't know. I've never been a huge drinker. I've always enjoyed a wine here and there. I enjoy a cocktail here and there, but I've never been a drinker to get drunk.

and I've done it because I really enjoy it with a meal usually. And so I definitely didn't say, hey, I'm not drinking, I'm going sober. That's not it because I could very well be getting drunk right now while you're listening to this over in Italy with Ben. But I just found myself wanting it less and so I'm just listening to what I want. I guess it's intuitive drinking. I don't know. I just –

It's just been hitting differently and I don't know if because I was doing Dancing with the Stars, which was eight weeks of like really intense training. Yeah, I mean that definitely would change things a little bit but I also think it's becoming more common. Yeah. I think before it was like an expectation that you go out for dinner, you have a glass of wine with dinner. Whereas like now I think that it is far more common that people are sober curious or are, you know, just like it doesn't seem to be as integral to socialising as what it used to be. Yeah, and it's not been sober curious for me because...

I was never a big drinker. I couldn't tell you the last time I got drunk in all honesty. But I just thought, you know what? Now I might just wait until the wedding. I might just drink at the wedding. Just don't go off. But that's dangerous. Yes, yes. I think I need a couple of warm-ups before that. Oh, I remember the first time I drank after I stopped breastfeeding and that was an absolute shit show. We'll never revisit that. I will be drinking some red wine in Italy. But I just thought, I only thought about that right now when you said, Britt's going to be having an Aperol somewhere. I thought, you know what? I haven't even drunk this year. Probably not. Yeah. There you go.

Anyway, on the show this week. There was a very funny story this week that really tickled my fancy. It was a mum that caught her toddler eating something that he shouldn't have. Now, I don't want to spoil it for you, but it was pretty revolting. That's what I will say. I do like the way you hooked it when you said, I found my toddler eating my dad. Okay, well, I didn't want to give it away, but there it is.

It really didn't. What could that mean? Eating his toe. I don't know. Eating his toenail. Eating his boogers. That is disgusting. Well, toddlers are gross and they do gross things. You guys know, I've talked about it a bit on the podcast, but also if you've been following along the renovation down south,

we have copped a lot of varied criticism, right? Like so some has been wonderful. Some people have been so nice, so supportive. Some people have been really mean and they have given their, I shouldn't say unsolicited because we asked people. It was solicited. They've given their solicited thoughts on the renovation.

I read out a whole heap of comments on the show. It was very funny. But also, Brittany organized for Darren Palmer, who is the interior designer on the block, one of the three judges, to come on and judge Shantimer and tell us what we... That's the house name. Yeah, and tell me what he really thinks of the house. My house has a name. Yeah, we were like, are the trolls right? Is the house hideous? Yeah.

and not worth taking a dump in? Should I be paying people to shit in my house was the real question. Or is it a beautiful house and Laura's done a good job. There's only one way to put it to bed. So we did get the experts on. So that was an interesting chat too. So find out what Laura's house was ranked by the block judge. Maybe I should go on the block.

Actually, I'd hate the block. I'd hate it. As your business partner, no. We would have the biggest fights. You'd probably divorce on there. Yeah. Nah. Yes, you would. Absolutely. Anyway, enjoy the show, guys.

even know how I'm going to say this out loud. It is so mortifying, but I do want to put a call out to you guys. What did you find your kid eating? Because there is a woman in the UK that ducked upstairs for a couple of seconds just to put some washing away. And when she came downstairs, she saw her two-year-old making quite the mess in the lounge room. And she looked at his shirt and he had something all over his shirt. Then she looked at the table and she saw something all over the table. And you're not going to believe

what he was eating. Oh my God, when your son eats your dad's ashes. My son has eaten my dad's ashes.

Britt, I saw this going viral on the weekend and I think I even, I can't remember. I feel like I sent it to every single group chat that I'm in. When your son is your dad. That was her video caption. I mean, obviously, like from the audio, you can't visualise this. The ash is everywhere. It's all over the house. If anyone who's ever scattered an ash...

of a loved one knows just how like it is a very specific thing. Like it's a white ashy substance and it just kind of plumes everywhere. It is all over her house, all over her chair and all down her toddler and she's put it straight in his mouth. The worst part is it's all over his face. It's all over his cheeks. He's literally been eating it anyway. The comments are so funny. Dad will live on forever in that toddler. Everyone's like I'm pretty sure this isn't how reincarnation works. Well, at least he's going to be a part of your son forever, which he's not.

he's going to be pooed out. Your son will poo out your dad. The fact that she has had a laugh about this is, I think is brilliant because this could go two ways. Like your dad has been consumed. Also, I'm impressed that the toddler was able to open it. Anyone who's ever had an urn, usually the hardest part is trying to crack the lid open of the urn. Well, this looks more

It looks more like, this could be on the mum, it does look teapot-ish. It looks like you just take the lid off a little bit. That to me looks like they've already cracked the urn before and they've separated it so they just put part of it in that teapot. That needs to have a... That's just dad's leg. Yeah, that needs to be a lockable lid. I mean, I saw this when we were talking about it in the car and my daughter was in the back seat, Marley, she's five. Last year we spread my grandfather's ashes. Her papa, he was a really, really big part of my life.

But spreading ashes never really goes to plan is what I've realised, especially if it's a slightly windy day. We like tipped him off a mountain and the wind picked up and I... Sorry, even the way you said that, we tipped him off. We just scattered him off. You scattered him. We scattered Papa off a mountain. He would laugh about this. But the wind came and at the same time the bag flipped back over and it went in my mouth, down my shirt, into my pants. But as we were talking about this in the car, Marley, it was like it clicked for her and she was like, wait,

That was actually Papa? And I was like, yeah. She thought maybe it was symbolic. She goes, but how did he become dirt? And I was like, oh, we're not going into that right now. That is a conversation for another day. And why was he down your bench? And why did you eat him? Why? We've had Sophie call up. Sophie, hi. What did you find your kid eating?

Well, it was a friend's toddler and they came out, they're staying at a cabin and they just arrived and their toddler crawled out with the toilet brush in their mouth. Oh my God. For some reason, there's something worse about like a toilet brush from home, like your own poop. It's far worse when it's from a rental. Maybe they thought it was a chock top. You know, you can't buy it. Yeah, take it to the next level. Laura, it was not a chock top. It

If anything, it was a crumble. I can't. I can't. All right. Thanks. That is actually disgusting. Kids are disgusting, Britt, though. That's the thing. Phoebe, what did your kid put in their mouth? My kid, he was disappearing off to the side and all of a sudden I saw this little thing in his hand with its eyes shut. He looked a lizard, a dead lizard. Oh, no.

I don't actually think that's that bad. My mum, when my mum was a kid, she got known for licking the bottom of snails and she would bail her, like my uncle and auntie up and make them lick the bottom of snails too. To be fair, at least it was dead. I will say we had some people on the text line just writing in saying that they found their kid with like live animals, like snails and stuff that were still alive. It's...

Yeah, it's because they... It's disgusting, isn't it? Were you talking about like a tiny little gecko? Or is this like a big blue-tailed lizard? It's a little skunk. No, a little skunk. The little skink lizards, yeah. Its eyes are closed and it looks so peaceful and I'm like, ugh, get it out of your mouth. Do you think it was alive before he licked it? No, it was definitely, it was well dead. Ah!

Oh, thank you. Isn't it disgusting? Kids are rank. Yeah. Well, look, Britt, you only know the half of it. I'm sure my kids have done way worse, but I just don't even commit it to memory anymore. But don't care. A lot of text lines about their kids eating poop. Yeah. I mean, like, they've all accidentally at some point. That's a choice. It's just, no, I don't think a two-year-old chooses. I think they just don't have very good motor skills and hands go flying and things go flying. All right. Now, look.

have been unintentionally, slightly intentionally. It started off intentional. It was intentional. But now it's unintentional. Rage baiting people on the internet. Now, if you don't know what rage baiting is, it's basically when you create content on Instagram with the intention of making people angry. I feel like it's pretty self-explanatory.

planetary. Like you're baiting the rage. I'm baiting the rage. Yeah. My husband and I, Matt, we have been doing a renovation and we've been documenting the process over the last couple of months. It's been nine months. And let me tell you, we have put some blood, sweat and tears into this renovation. And dollars. And some cash. It is eclectic.

It is weird. I mean, you described it as a Willy Wonka house, but we wanted to have a house that was like colourful and fun. That when you walked into it, you felt like you're on a holiday. It is a fun house. You've got to put those sunglasses on to walk in. Over the last couple of months, we've realised that people either love it or they hate it. And in the last week, we've started to do room reveals because we're our own little mini block here. The first one was the bathroom. The second one was the kitchen.

And I just want to say, I was not prepared for how angry renovation content makes people. You baited too hard. I didn't mean to. The problem is it went past rage baiting and now it's like people are just being mean. I'm like, this is still my house, guys. So this is what I mean by it's making people enraged. Firstly, Daily Mail has written an article about how enraged people are if you want to go and look for it. But also it's things like this.

Oh, actually funny, her handle is plain Jane, so maybe that's why she doesn't like it. But she wrote, love that for you. You were being stubborn with your style. I just don't understand how it works though. It doesn't work with the natural simplicity. It's ugly. Wow. Imagine writing that to someone. Here's another review. Oh my God, that marble is hideous. Oh, no.

Here's another review from Stacey. Yuck, the cupboard doesn't match anything and the tiles are just horrible. Hang on, are we in a kitchen or are we still in the bathroom? We're in the bathroom now. Oh, we're still in the bathroom. Marble fixtures and layout is the only saving grace. This person wrote, well, you would be ripped to pieces by Shana Blaze. Let's put it that way. It's a no from me too. Okay, well, it's not the block. Shana's not coming to stay. Someone wrote, you couldn't pay me to stay here. And I was like, you'll never get to stay here. It's okay. Sharon, you're not invited. Okay.

And then the last one was, and this was about the kitchen reveal. So that was the second room that we were like really excited to share with everyone. And someone wrote, better than your crap bathroom.

Private DMs or public? No, they're written publicly. Look, I'll be honest. I guess you do put it out there. You open yourself up when you say, what do you think? Yeah. Which you did do. So you have to expect people to say that they don't like it. I want people to know that, like, I'm okay with it. Yeah, of course. Because, like, we, there's been a lot of kind feedback. There's been a lot of people who love it. There's been a lot of people who are into the maximum minimalist

like eclectic style of a crazy house that's got personality and then there are people who are not and I appreciate that. Producer Grace, why don't we get some of the block judges on? Why don't we get one of them on? Let's show them some of the house. Let's see what they think. Let's actually see what Shaina thinks. Let's see what Shaina thinks. Darren Palmer. Darren Palmer is going to be like, it's a monstrosity. Let's do it. Yeah.

I'm down. My only worry is someone saying things like, oh my God, it's getting worse. And I was like, guys, we've shown the best two rooms. Yeah, you started from the top. I was like, it really is. It really does get worse for me. It's so, so funny.

Have you ever done your DNA test, like an ancestry test? I actually haven't, but I've never felt the need to. Are you just a bit curious about like, I don't know, your family tree and like what it is? What's your DNA makeup? I mean, if you are questioning where I'm from, yeah, if you have questions about me, I can definitely go and get it done. Do you think I don't belong to my parents? No, I mean like... Where's this going? Do you know something I don't?

Brittany, this is your life. No, I find it really fascinating. And so my husband and I, we actually did DNA tests together recently, ancestry DNA tests. And we got an email saying that the results were inconclusive. So we weren't able to get our results back. And I... What does that

I don't know, but I'm going to do it again because I made these big jokes to Matt and I was like, what if like they found out something? Because when you do it, you have to submit like, this is my dad, this is my mum, and you submit as much as your family tree as you possibly can. And I was like, what if the reason why they kept it is because they found out something that they don't want us to know about it. Like maybe your dad's not your dad. Or maybe you want to blow up your life. Maybe my uncle's not my uncle. I don't know. But like, look. I think they'd tell you if you're uncle's your uncle's. That's not that impactful. What?

I don't know. I don't know. I think it is. Anyway, this article that came out, so a woman kind of, she went and did all the different DNA tests. There's a couple that are really big ones in Australia. One's MyHeritage, obviously AncestryDNA, which I think most people know of. And then there's also another one, which is kind of like the creme de la creme of DNA tests called 23andMe. Hasn't that just gone into...

What's it called? Receivership. Yeah, receivership. Maybe you know more about it than I do. You're like the creme de la creme. I'm like, it just went down the go-go. Do you know why they say it's the creme de la creme? Purely because it's the most expensive. It's meant to be the most thorough. But in the experience of this woman, it absolutely wasn't the case. But one thing she did find out, plot twist, she found out that her childhood crush, who she had been obsessed with and in love with for the majority of her adolescence, turned out to be her cousin.

Imagine if you found out not when, you know, not a childhood crush. Imagine if you found out that you were dating. There was a couple that found out in America. She did the DNA test. She found out that her husband or fiancé was a direct relation to her and she was going to bury that information. Did she tell him? I can't remember. I'm on the edge of my seat. Producer Grace will have to look it up. Okay, so there was a couple who discovered after 10 years of marriage and having three children that they were cousins. Yeah.

And they found out via a DNA test. No, you just stay. If you're being married and you've got kids, it's gone too far. You're in 2D. You've already done all the deeds. You're in White Lotus territory. Just staying there. Look, I mean, we opened up the text line and also I did a call out on my Instagram for this. You would be shocked by how many people discovered really salacious things about their families or about their lives. This one girl wrote in and said that her grandma had six kids.

and they all did their ancestry tests as grandchildren and they found out that the grandma had been having an affair with the farmer who lived on the farm next door, an Italian farmer, and the youngest three children were not actually their grandfathers but it was this Italian farmer. So three of the kids had the Italian heritage and DNA and they were all linked to a different dad. They were all having a rumble behind the shed, behind the hay bales. No, they weren't just her, just the grandma. The kids were...

Absolutely were not rumbling anywhere. They all weren't. Wow, good on her. People who found out that their biological dad just wasn't, like their dad wasn't their dad, loads of those came in. That would be a really sad discovery. Imagine being 30 years old and finding out that your dad's not actually your biological dad. No, that is gut-wrenching. And your mum did the dirty.

What else have you got over there? Another girl wrote, my sister found out that she has a different dad. There's a lot of dads out here that are finding out that they either have kids that they didn't know they had or that they're not the father to the kids they thought they did have. I just think let dead dogs lie. What?

That's the saying, isn't it? This is why I would worry about going and doing a test. Not that I think anything would come of it, but I'm happy with my life. I don't need the disruption. If it came out that my dad wasn't my dad, which he definitely is. Hang on. I don't want this to go anywhere. My dad is my dad. I don't have any queries. But I'm just saying sometimes I think...

Ignorance is bliss. How's this one? This girl found out that Ivan Malat is her dad's second cousin. See? That's a skeleton in a wardrobe in a closet you don't need to know about. You're related to a psychopath. What are you going to do with that information? Anyway, we've got a caller on the line. Rosie, what did you find out from your ancestry DNA? Hi,

Hi Britt. Hi Laura. Hi. And yeah, it wasn't myself directly, but it was a family member. It was probably in her late 50s at the time. She'd been doing the whole ancestry journey for a long amount of time with her sister. And her dad wasn't her real dad. And it was actually the next door neighbor when she was growing up. How did they link into the neighbor though? How did she get there? I

I think maybe that family had also been doing kind of their own journey. So there was already DNA kind of in the system that was able to be linked. Yeah, bit of a shock. That's crazy. And so did the neighbour, what's the outcome here? Did the neighbour take her on as like the dad?

So look, I'm not sure if he was actually alive, but I do know that she's now in touch with the children that he did have. So she has kind of got other siblings out there and she's in very much the same mindset as you said, Britt, like, you know, my great grandfather was her dad. That's who raised her. So that's still kind of her opinion, but kind

Kind of a good story is that she's, yeah, kind of got some more family members out of it. So that's nice. All right, you've sold me. I'll go do one. I don't want to do one because I'm frightened of what I might find out, to be honest. You need to do one because you've done it and it came back inconclusive. So either they're saying that you're one of those avatars and your DNA doesn't match the humans or something is amiss. So we need to get to the bottom of that. That is not a story arc that I want to unpack on radio. What, that you're an avatar? That you're not related to your parents?

So the last few days we've been talking about Laura's renovation. You've been renovating this house for the best part of nine months. And in case you're curious, it looks amazing. Everyone's been so supportive and they've said, wow, what a beautiful eclectic bathroom and kitchen you've so meticulously and thoughtfully renovated. Okay, that couldn't be further from the truth. No, some people have said that. But if you have missed it, we've been talking about the fact that Laura has been getting some

Pretty harsh criticism online. There's been some trolls that have been coming for you with very honest feedback. And yesterday I read out some of the comments that we've received. This is what people had to say. She wrote, love that for you. You were being stubborn with your style. I just don't understand how it works though. It's ugly. Oh my God, that marble is hideous. Well, you would be ripped to pieces by Shayna Blaze. It's a no from me too.

Someone wrote, you couldn't pay me to stay here. And I was like, you'll never get to stay here. It's okay. Sharon, you're not invited. This is about the kitchen reveal. Better than your crap bathroom. Someone wrote last night, you couldn't pay me to shit in this bathroom. And I was like, oh, we've reached a whole new low, guys. Leave me alone. Also, why do these

I don't think they're invited to shit in the bathroom. I'm not paying you to do that in my bathroom. Okay, there have been some people that have also given you positive feedback as well. It's not as funny. But the trolls have been coming. But I did want to put this to bed. So I have contacted, I slid into the DMs.

The block judge and interior designer, Darren Palmer. I have sent him photos of your house. He has been reviewing them overnight. I think he stayed up all night with his monocle, making sure he looked at every detail. He's going to score me. He's going to score you. He's on the line. Welcome to The Pickup, Darren.

I don't know what sort of judge you think I am. I don't wear monocles. I don't work for the Supreme Court. I work on the telly and I tell people whether their stuff is good or not. You missed a few of those great quotes, by the way. There's, like you two had a stroke watching this. I love that one. That was a good one. I love you guys, but I hate this. This one I particularly like. Oh, it's getting worse.

I think I wrote back to that one and said, no, this is us at our peak. The kitchen's our best reveal. I thought that was a cracking response. It's very funny. So you've been reviewing the photos, Darren. Darren, let me be honest. You would know this. I had never understood or had no concept of how much interior design makes people angry. They are so polarised by it.

Yes, that is exactly right. The thing is, and you've touched on it yourself in the comments, which I commend you for, is you really have to think about when you're doing a house, why are you doing it? And are you doing it to sell it to a market? Are you doing it to satisfy yourselves and to live in for the next 5, 10, 15 years? Or as you said, you'll have to buy the

with the keys out of my cold, dead hands. Darren, can I tell you the theme for the house? So it's a holiday house and I said, I just want it to be fun and I want everyone to walk into it and feel like they're on holidays.

You've done exactly that. This must be super peaky for you to be like, okay, let's ask an expert what they think on my hard work that I've just completed. I've got toasties. Speaking of someone who's just finished a renovation that took me two years and where everything is basically beige. That's like my dream. I do like the marble you have in your house though, Darren. Don't worry. I've seen it. It's a beautiful renovation. No one's doubting that.

Thank you. I appreciate that. But the point is, I think a lot of people feel really comfortable with neutral palettes and a lot of people feel comfortable with what they've seen before. But at the end of the day, you are designing a home that is for you guys to enjoy. And also you wanted to create a feeling and a mood of fun and holiday and getaway. And honestly, your house isn't

a normal-looking house from the outside. It's interesting, you know? It's got all those different shapes. Interesting is a great word, isn't it? I love it. Yeah, it's unusual. Well, as my nana says, if I feed her something that's a little bit too flavoursome, she goes, oh, that's different. Yeah. Different means bad. But in this case, it doesn't. It just means it's different. And I think if you put a normal, predictable, you know,

Hampton style coastal interior in this house. It just wouldn't fit the exterior. So I reckon the person that's loving the exterior of your house will find a lot of joy on the interior of your house. I think that she was setting this up for when she does retire and she's a crazy cat lady that the facade will fit. And I think she's done really well. But let's go to the first room, which is the bathroom, Darren. Can you describe that and let us know what you think?

Look, risks have been taken and... And it's different, as Nana would say. I think the things I love are the natural stone. I think it's beautiful. I really...

I really love the subway tiles in the stripe pattern. I think that's gorgeous. I really love the mirror. Now, I do have notes. Do you want notes? I'm ready. Yeah. The bath. No bath. Talk me through that decision. You couldn't fit it. You couldn't fit a bath. It was too small. Definitely not a good choice for resale value, but I guess if you're not resaling, then... We talked about it a lot. It was a sacrifice. We were like, if we're going to...

If we're going to make it have space, it's got to have no bath. Otherwise, the bath would have been one of those pokey little half baths. And I was like, who wants to sit in a half bath? A child. A child. Nobody. But your kids or your pets, that's what it's useful for. No, pets are so good to wash with a shower handle. I refuse that. Getting a dog into it. I've got a 40-kilo dog. Laura, you brought the expert on. You've got to let him talk. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm trying to convince the thought process here. Okay. I've got one other note. It's the placement of your basin.

Particularly the tap in relation to that wall sconce. That distance seems a little tight in that you kind of feel like that may be close to your face when you're going to use the tap. I would have bumped it away from the wall a little bit. I get where you've got lots of counter space. I understand it's nice to spread everything out, especially if you don't have face level storage. Face level storage is also a really nice inclusion, but I love your mirror. So you've got heaps of storage underneath. I'm not too bothered by that. Great. I'm loving

this. I feel validated. Yeah. So out of 10, I would give you a solid nine. Wow. Wow. Take that. And Karen and Sally. Yeah. Actually, maybe the bath, I've got to pull half a point off. I reckon you've got to knock a couple off for the bath. I know the bath was very enraging for some people. All right. We'll move to the kitchen now. The kitchen's also been controversial.

So the kitchen, did you get your colour inspiration from your old laundry? Yes. We wanted to keep same colours, similar theme, but we wanted it to feel like it was more modern, maximalist. That was kind of the thing we were going for.

I'll tell you what, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, right? Your layout worked before, it works now. Very fond of the tiles and the floor. And is that a pantry inside with a beautiful stone? Yes. Yeah, you need more PowerPoints in there. Yeah, yeah. We also should have had sliding doors so that it didn't just stay with the doors open, but that was also, look, first time.

You know what? How many times have you done this? None. You're doing great. It's not easy, right? Like people think that it's really easy to create something from your mind and to just to design and it's not.

It's actually tricky and it's even trickier when everybody and their dog decides that they have the ability to criticize your hard work online. You did ask for it and you are asking for it again. I'm going to point it out. So it doesn't hurt that people talk about it.

It's true. Also, I kind of love how angry people get about it because... You do love it. You rage bait. I do. I just want to... Because I want to see their homes too. I want to... You know, when people get so angry, I'm like... You want to see Sharon's home? No, I do. I'm like, well, clearly you must live in a palace if you're going to get so cranky. But anyway, I feel like it's never going to come back down to service. Hang on. Let's wrap this up. What are we scoring the kitchen?

Look, I think it's a cracker. I think it's beautiful. Absolutely gorgeous. So I love what you're doing. Well, there you go. Put that around. I was expecting more meanness. Thank you. I am going to cut this down. You are speaking to the wrong person. Although I did see that you'll get ripped to pieces by Shana Blade, so you probably should speak to her. Do you reckon she would rip me to pieces? Yeah, let's get her a next session. I know her very well. You'll just have to see.

All right, Darren, thank you so much. I'm very pleasantly surprised. I can't wait to tag every single person who left a mean comment.

Okay, so I want to talk about White Lotus. Now, before we get into it, I want to say this is no spoilers about the show. It was the finale this week, but we are not talking about the show itself. I haven't seen it yet, so I can't spoil anything for you. I'm in the dark also. No, what I wanted to talk about was something that I thought was really interesting. It's a really interesting pay conversation that has come off the back of White Lotus.

Now, HBO has come out and said that all of the White Lotus stars are paid the exact same amount. So what this means is it doesn't matter if you are a veteran actor. It doesn't matter if you are the George Clooneys or the Brad Pits or in this case, Woody Harrelson. And I say that because Woody Harrelson originally signed on to play a cast member, a main cast member.

The reason he didn't do it is because he ended up being cast in another show. But he negotiated his salary all the way to the CEO of HBO. He was saying like, there's no way I'm doing it for 40K. And they didn't even budge for him. They were like, every single actor, if it's your first ever acting job or it's your 100th acting job, is going to be paid the same. Now, it started a really interesting conversation because there are a lot of people saying, wow, this is setting the standard for the future of acting.

do we think every actor should sign on and be paid equal? Because what it means is, and Mike White, the director, HBO CEO, has come out saying, it means you're getting people sign on for the right reason. It's not a money grab for them. They're not just doing it to put money in their pocket. They're saying, hey, I actually feel so strongly about this project. Yeah, but I mean, it's a job. It's like coming to work.

in a radio network, here we go, and being the number one show in all the country and saying, but you shouldn't ask for a big salary because you should do it for the joy of creating content. I guess my thing is, if an actor has a proven track record, they've starred in many films, they are a more experienced actor. They also have the recall, like people want to see them. They're the ones who are the stars that are bringing in the viewership.

then I would say that they deserve to be paid more. I think that it's like you earn your stripes in any industry and the more experienced you are, the more you get paid. I agree with you. So the producer David Bernard said, everyone is treated the same on White Lotus. They get paid the same. We do alphabetical billing. So you're getting people who want to do the project for the right reasons. Not to quote The Bachelor, it's a system we developed in the first season because there was no money to make the show. So I understand how it started. And I guess I understand why there are people that

that are for it. But personally, how can you say to somebody that has 20 years experience, trained experience, that bring in big dollars, that bring in viewership, how can you say that you don't deserve anything more than somebody that might be quote unquote a new grad? Here's my question. What's the name of the guy who makes it? The creator? Mike White. Is

Is Mike White earning the same amount for this series as what he did for the first series? Because, I mean... Highly unlikely. But that's the thing. If it's based on this, like, altruistic want to just, like, create a great film, I know that they created a system in the first place. The series wasn't worth anything with the first season. They didn't know how it was going to go. So benchmarking a huge blockbuster that has now, in its third season, off the projected success of something that didn't exist...

I think that they're just like money gouging. The people who are creating the film are making more money. They're putting it all in their own pockets. It's not going back to charities. Like it's not going back to anything except HBO. I think it's crap. I don't like it because you've seen it happen in other industries, especially in entertainment. This kind of thing happens a lot, like not just the movie making, but all aspects of entertainment. There's always this overlying or underlying threat that, well,

If you don't do it, even though you're worth more, if you don't do it, someone's going to do it for less. There's someone else who's going to take it. So you take this low paying salary or not? Totally. It's the same with any industry. I mean, you look at photographers, you look at graphic designers, any creative industry, people are expected to do their craft first.

for not enough pay. And it's because, like, people can love their jobs, but they should be remunerated for what they bring to that job. And I think this is just a very, very sneaky way of them being able to go, oh, we only want people who are excited about White Lotus while making the maximum amount of profits for the show as possible. Yeah, and if you compare it to, remember Friends, for example. So, like, if they did this eight-episode season, they will get about $530,000 Australian dollars total, which is a great sum of money. Per cast member. Yeah.

Yeah, per cast member for the whole season. When you think of Friends, they used to get a million dollars each per episode. Having said that, would I do it for $40,000? Absolutely. You're like, I would do it for free. I will pay them. But also you're not, no offence. Hang on, what are you, hang on. Well, you're not a huge movie star who can demand the highest pay. You would be on the lowest end of the spectrum because it's a new thing. All right, mate. Yeah, I just wanted to clear that up. Well, I would negotiate it to $42,000.

Now, Britt, I want to talk to you about wedding trends. Oh, well, I'm all across them. Specifically, something that's been deemed a tacky wedding trend. And I want to get your take on this.

So there is a couple that's gone quite viral on their – you know how Reddit has all these different threads? One of them is called the Wedding Shaming Reddit. That is a thread? It's a thread. That is horrible. I know, but it's very interesting. Am I going to be on there? Potentially. But the problem is, is that you know that if you make it on there, it's because one of your guests posts something about your wedding. Like that's how you end up on this Wedding Shaming thread. What dirtbags. I know, right? Well, look, there's this woman –

Basically, like they've had a beautiful wedding. The rest of the wedding looks gorgeous. But there's one thing that they've done that's been deemed not only controversial, it's deemed narcissistic, tacky, and also bridezilla-esque. So you know how you walk into usually the reception and it has like a welcome to the wedding and then there's another sign that's got the table seating plan? Yeah. So this is what it says. Welcome to Lauren's wedding. And then in small text at the bottom it says featuring Tom.

I'm guessing it says Tom. The name's scribbled out, but like they didn't do a good job of it. Oh, hang on. So featuring the groom. Okay. Yep. Now people are saying that this is such a red flag for self-centered narcissism, that she comes off as a total bridezilla. She's made the wedding completely about herself when it's supposed to be about the two of them. People have taken it very seriously. Obviously, he's in on the joke. Obviously, he knows that she was going to make that sign. I mean, I doubt she just made the sign and then, you know, everyone rocked up and it was a great big surprise. Yeah.

But people feel very strongly that this is a real indicator that she is just so up herself that she can't, you know, include her own husband. Grow up. Grow up. That is what I think. People need to get an actual life. This is very obviously a joke. Well, people feel bad for him like he's hard done by. He could not care less. Spoiler, the guy does not care. This is literally like,

a lighthearted joke to be like, hey, guess what? He's probably done nothing to plan it. We all know that the majority of women are far more excited or do most of the planning in a wedding. This is probably just a lighthearted lean into that. I agree with that part, but I think that people have gotten angry for the wrong reasons. Everyone's like calling her a bridezilla. Everyone's calling her horrible names. And I'm like, okay, she's made a joke. She probably organized the entire wedding. 100%.

Like I'm sure that there are guys out there who are amazing and do a lot of planning as well. I do not doubt that. If you were one of those husbands, like absolute kudos to you. I was very lucky. My husband was an event organizer in a past life. So I just pretty much rocked up at my wedding and everything was done. But,

From what I have gauged from my friends, that is the vast minority. I.e. me. Yeah. Most women are the ones organizing weddings. They're doing all the planning. They're doing all the meetings, all the prep, all the choices. And so I kind of look at this and I'm like, I feel like people have gotten angry for the wrong reasons. They should be angry at him for not doing more wedding planning. I genuinely believe that people need to get a life. Like why has this... That's your take home. Get a life. Why is this? There's no...

part of me that would ever walk into a friend's wedding, look at a sign and be so enraged that I would need to go and start a thread about how embarrassing and cringy and tacky it was. It's their wedding. You don't have to like it. Spoiler, it's not for you. It's for them. Have a

a little laugh. Lean in. Enjoy it. Yeah. I also think that if you ever find yourself on a wedding shaming Reddit thread, you probably should assess who your friend list is, who the people are that you've invited to your wedding. I don't care. Do I feel strongly about it? Not particularly, but I would be surprised if you did this at your wedding, Britt. Am I going to do this? No. Have I planned the whole wedding? Yes. Does my fiance Ben weeks out have suits?

for himself or his groomsmen? No. Does he even know what date it is? No. Does he know where it is? I can't be sure. Well, we hope he shows up. I think he's, I'm hoping, well, I know he will. I've made sure I'm on the plane with him. Like I will escort him. You'll take him to the wedding. I have to escort him to the wedding, but I don't think he knows anything. But I mean, the sign's not for me, but I just think people

need to relax. It's a wedding. It's about love. Who cares what the sign is? I mean, I'm even mad for you, Brit. You seem fine with it, but I'm mad. Make him do more. Can you just call up and cancel the sign? Okay, thanks.

Laura, I don't know if your kids are old enough yet to be playing pranks, but I love a harmless, funny prank. My kids are not at the pranking age. They're barely at the age. They understand how to tell a joke, but they don't understand the punchline. So they just say like, hey, knock, knock. And you say, who's there? And then they'll go.

I don't know. Bum face. And you're like, okay. Sure. Sure. Sure. Bum face fart or whatever, you know? Okay. So they need a few extra years. They don't get it. Yeah. They're too little. Well, this had me in hysterics. Have a listen to this woman going viral online for the realisation she had that her kids have played the ultimate prank on her.

I have just realised that I've been emailing people from stinky, stinky poo-poo farts because I noticed the other day that on my Apple Watch when I did exercise, it came up, congratulations, stinky poo-poo fart or bum. And I was like, oh my God, the kids have changed my name. They've actually changed my name on my emails. So I've been emailing people, the school included, from stinky poo-poo farts.

It's almost funny because of her accent. But I wouldn't even know how to do this. The fact that a kid knows how to do this, this just shows kids know technology better than we do. But imagine if you're sending these really important emails, like you have your own business, you're in a big meeting and you're like, Walmart, stinky, stinky, poopy fart.

It reminded me of when I was a kid. This wasn't a harmless prank, but I thought – well, no, it was. I thought it was harmless, but I didn't understand the cost involved. You're like, I set my mum's house on fire. So I burnt their house down. No. I thought it would be really funny to prank my mum and replace her perfume with just –

and I had gotten flowers from the garden and mushed it up in the water to see if she would notice. So it was chunky water flowers. That's really annoying. It's so annoying. Like what was I thinking? But I was like got you hundreds of dollars of perfume. The only thing I ever did which wasn't really a prank was

I don't know how you describe it. I just took my mum's ciggies and put them in the toilet because I hated her smoking. Okay, I didn't want to say that. And so then she, I remember, because you couldn't flush them. So I was like, well, what do I do with them now? So I put them in the toilet and then I freaked out. So I just put them back. But they were all wet because they'd been in the toilet. Okay, so I buried them in the dirt. I put them under the ground.

Did it work for you? I got in so much trouble. So did I. My mum did eventually quit, but it wasn't because of the toilet ciggies. That's for sure. Hey, we've got Candice on the line. Hey, Candice, have your kids played a prank on you? They haven't, but I played a prank on my parents when I was a kid with my sister. We were brushing our teeth one night and thought it would be a good idea to put a nice layer of the gel toothpaste on our lips so that when they came to kiss us goodnight, they got a nice little surprise. Yuck. Oh.

Yeah. As in to like burn their face? No, it's just toothpaste. It's just a nice sticky, minty kind of texture. So it got the appropriate response. And we thought it was hilarious. Do you know what Matt did once to our kids? So he pranked them. Lola was still wearing nappies. She was like in night nappies at the time. She was like one. She was like, no, she was like two and a half. And he got a clean nappy and put Nutella in it.

and then like purposely licked it and she freaked out, like absolutely, as you would. That is disgusting. She freaked out. She got really upset. She cried and she was like, why would you eat that? Why would you eat that? Anyway, I don't know why he felt the need to do that. All right, well, that's enough of Matt eating poo. Let's go to Gabby. Gabby, what prank have you played or have your kids played a prank on you? I played it on my mum. I hid all her underwear.

Why? What? Is that the end? I can't remember. I can't remember why. Where did you put it? Where did you hide it? I can't even remember. I just know that she got really paranoid and she thought the neighbours were stealing her underwear so she would wash them in the sink in her en suite thinking that the neighbours were stealing them. Imagine how paranoid she'd be when she found out her daughter was actually nicking all her undies. But do you know what? Oh, no, I was in so much trouble. You would be. I think she was really worried. You would because if like underpants...

Undies are something where it's like you know where you put them, you know you put them on the line, you know what undies you have. If they start disappearing from like your drawer on the line, I would be thinking there was a creep too. Yeah, but were you stealing them from the line or were you taking them from a drawer? Because it's kind of – I think I just took them from everywhere. I don't know. I didn't think of the consequences. I just took them and was like, stop eating. That is weird. How long – The weird part is what you did. All right. Thanks, Gabby.