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Oliver Burkeman On Meditations For Mortals

2024/11/25
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Oliver Burkeman: 本书旨在帮助读者将理论付诸实践,弥合'知道'和'行动'之间的差距。它以独特的结构设计,引导读者通过每天的小转变来影响日常生活,避免传统自助书籍中'读了就忘'的问题。作者提出'不完美主义'作为一种积极主动的生活方式,它承认并接受生活中的局限性,鼓励读者活在当下,而非总是追求未来的'完美时刻'。作者认为,人们总是试图过度控制生活,反而失去了生活的活力和意义。他结合自身的时间管理经验,说明了完美主义的弊端,并建议使用'完成清单'来提升效率和积极性。他还探讨了拖延症的两种形式,并提出'接纳焦虑'而非'强迫克服'的策略。作者认为,人们对自身缺点的关注,源于对死亡和有限性的恐惧。他建议人们将待办事项清单视为'菜单'而非'任务清单',从容地进行选择。在人际关系方面,作者建议人们不要将个人时间与其他时间对立起来,而应将它们视为生活中的不同方面。他认为,接受生活的不完美,才能真正地活在当下。 Rosie Boycott: 作为访谈者,Rosie Boycott 积极参与讨论,提出问题并引导 Oliver Burkeman 深入探讨其观点。她与 Oliver Burkeman 就'不完美主义'、时间管理、焦虑、决策等主题进行了深入的交流,并分享了自己的看法和经验。她还特别关注了社交媒体和资本主义经济对人们心理的影响,以及如何平衡个人时间和人际关系。 Rosie Boycott: 本次访谈围绕 Oliver Burkeman 的新书展开,探讨了书中提出的'不完美主义'理念以及如何更好地生活。访谈中,Rosie Boycott 积极参与讨论,提出问题并引导 Oliver Burkeman 深入探讨其观点。她与 Oliver Burkeman 就'不完美主义'、时间管理、焦虑、决策等主题进行了深入的交流,并分享了自己的看法和经验。她还特别关注了社交媒体和资本主义经济对人们心理的影响,以及如何平衡个人时间和人际关系。

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Why did Oliver Burkeman write 'Meditations for Mortals'?

Oliver Burkeman wrote 'Meditations for Mortals' to help readers bridge the gap between knowing how they want to live and actually doing it. After his previous book 'Four Thousand Weeks' provided a philosophical vision, he realized that many readers, including himself, struggled to consistently apply these ideas in their daily lives. This book aims to provide practical, daily insights that can be immediately implemented.

What is imperfectionism, and how does it differ from perfectionism?

Imperfectionism is an outlook that accepts the inherent limitations and imperfections of life, including the impossibility of perfect control over one's circumstances, relationships, and future. It contrasts with perfectionism, which often leads to constant dissatisfaction and the belief that there's always something to be fixed or improved. Imperfectionism is about embracing the vulnerability and uncertainty of life, which can paradoxically lead to a more energized and fulfilling way of being.

How can a done list help with productivity and mental well-being?

A done list is a record of tasks completed throughout the day, helping to reorient the focus from what hasn't been done to what has been accomplished. This can reduce feelings of depression and helplessness by providing a tangible sense of progress. Even small achievements, like taking a shower or making coffee, can be listed, which can snowball into motivation for larger tasks over time.

Why is it important to see life as a series of menu choices rather than to-do list items?

Seeing life as a series of menu choices rather than to-do list items helps us accept that we have finite time and cannot do everything. This approach reduces the pressure to achieve an impossible level of control and allows us to make conscious, enjoyable choices from an abundant array of options, rather than feeling overwhelmed by an endless list of tasks.

What is the 'gnawing rat' metaphor, and how can it help in dealing with anxiety?

The 'gnawing rat' metaphor, coined by Dutch Zen writer Paul Lumens, refers to tasks or areas of life we avoid because they trigger anxiety. Instead of trying to force ourselves to confront these issues, the metaphor suggests befriending the 'rat' by acknowledging its presence and taking small, gentle steps towards addressing it. This can make the process less daunting and more intuitive.

How does social media exacerbate the pressures of perfectionism and dissatisfaction?

Social media exacerbates the pressures of perfectionism and dissatisfaction by constantly presenting curated, idealized versions of life, which create unrealistic comparisons and a sense of moral responsibility to be perfect. The economy and technology profit from keeping users dissatisfied and promising solutions that never fully materialize, leading to a cycle of constant striving and berating oneself.

What practical strategy can help tackle the anxiety of perfectionism?

One practical strategy to tackle perfectionism is to engage in free writing exercises or similar activities where you allow yourself to make a mess without fear of judgment. For example, setting a timer and writing anything for 10 minutes, then deleting it. This helps metabolize the emotional resistance to imperfection and can lead to a more relaxed and productive approach to tasks.

Why is it important to see time spent on others as also time spent on oneself?

Seeing time spent on others as also time spent on oneself helps avoid the zero-sum game where life is divided into time for oneself and time for others. It's important to internalize that activities like raising a family or working can be congruent with personal well-being. Time for oneself, such as taking a walk or reading, can enhance performance in other areas, but it shouldn't be seen as the only valid form of self-care.

What is the core message of 'Meditations for Mortals' in dealing with life's challenges?

The core message of 'Meditations for Mortals' is to accept life's inherent imperfections and limitations. This acceptance can lead to a more meaningful and fulfilling life, as it allows for a deeper engagement with the present moment and reduces the need to constantly control and justify one's actions. The book encourages readers to live for the sake of life itself, without the need for external validations or achievements.

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This chapter explores the transition from theoretical knowledge to practical application, focusing on the structure of the book "Meditations for Mortals" and its purpose of facilitating this transition. It highlights the common issue of reading self-help books without implementing their advice and proposes a daily reading approach for practical impact.
  • Transition from knowing to doing
  • Book structure as a 4-week journey
  • Daily practice for real-world change

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5x15 is delighted to announce a special online event with Oliver Burkeman, author of the international breakout bestseller Four Thousand Weeks, a book that touched the lives of hundreds of thousands of readers.

Inspired by its investigation into time and how we use it, some of those readers changed their lives, and made big decisions to rethink careers, relationships, priorities, and misguided assumptions about productivity.

Now, Oliver Burkeman is back with Meditations for Mortals, a book that will take us on a liberating journey towards a more meaningful life. Addressing the fundamental questions about how to live, it offers a powerful new way to take action on what counts: a guiding philosophy of life that he calls ‘imperfectionism’. How can we embrace our non-negotiable limitations? Or make good decisions when there’s always too much to do? What if purposeful productivity were often about letting things happen, not making them happen?

To be read either as a four-week ‘retreat of the mind’ or devoured in one or two sittings, Meditations for Mortals will be a source of solace and inspiration, and an aid to a saner, freer, and more enchantment-filled life. In anxiety-inducing times, it is rich in truths we have never needed more.

Don't miss the chance to hear this leading thinker share his inspiring ideas about life's big questions, live in conversation with cross-bench peer and 5x15 co-founder Rosie Boycott.

Praise for Meditations for Mortals

‘Full of wisdom and comfort...a really important book about embracing truth and reality which will help a lot of people leave their fantasies and dive into real life.'- CHRIS VAN TULLEKEN, author of Ultra-Processed People

'Oliver Burkeman has a way of giving you the most unexpected productivity advice exactly when you need it.’- MARK MANSON, author of The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck

‘Delightful, engaging, rigorous and reassuring… The world would be a better and less frightening place if more people would stop what they are doing and read this book.’ - CATHY RENTZENBRINK, author of Write it All Down

‘A deeply helpful reflection on how to permit our lives a sigh of relief… Oliver is a steersman through sanity and must be read alongside any attempts at self-improvement.’ - DERREN BROWN

'Meditations for Mortals offers a practical path toward personal transformation ... A must-read.'- CAL NEWPORT, author of Slow Productivity

Oliver Burkeman is the author of the Sunday Times bestselling Four Thousand Weeks and The Antidote, and for many years wrote a popular weekly column on psychology for the Guardian, 'This Column Will Change Your Life'. His work has also appeared in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Psychologies and New Philosopher.

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