David Grann is a staff writer for The New Yorker. His new book is The Wager: A Tale of Shipwreck, Mutiny and Murder).
“I became very haunted by the stories that [nations] don't tell. Nations and empires preserve their powers not only by the stories they tell, but also by the stories they leave out. … Early in my career, if I came across the silences in a story, I might not have highlighted them, because I thought, Well, there's nothing to tell there. And now I try to let the silences speak.”
Show notes:
01:00 The Wager: A Tale of Shipwreck, Mutiny and Murder) (Doubleday • 2023)
02:00 Killers of the Flower Moon: The Osage Murders and the Birth of the FBI) (Doubleday • 2017)
28:00 The White Darkness) (Doubleday • 2018)
61:00 Killers of the Flower Moon) (Martin Scorsese • Appian Way, Apple Studios • 2023)
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