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Can AI master the art of humor? | Bob Mankoff

2024/12/24
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Bob Mankoff: 人工智能能否拥有幽默感,这是一个值得探讨的问题。虽然目前AI还无法完全复制人类的幽默感,但我认为AI的创造力,特别是它能虚构内容的能力,并非完全是缺陷,反而可以成为一种特性。我的职业生涯就是靠虚构内容,而这正是漫画的本质。 我不希望被AI取代,但我乐于借助AI的力量。AI的快速发展让我不禁思考,是否能出现一个‘机器人曼科夫’? 对AI的恐惧并非新鲜事,但现在这种恐惧达到了顶峰。人们担心AI会对人类造成威胁,但我不关注AI的潜在毁灭性,我更关注AI的幽默潜力。我利用《纽约客》的漫画标题征集活动来研究AI的幽默概率。 过去,《纽约客》的漫画标题征集活动由我和我的助手负责筛选,但从2016年初开始,我们转向了众包模式。现在,数百万人的评判构成了一个‘趣味评分’,这在很大程度上提高了效率和准确性。 早期的AI技术无法胜任《纽约客》漫画标题征集活动的评选任务,但随着AI技术的进步,AI在理解和创作幽默方面虽然仍落后于人类,但差距正在缩小。 我参与的一篇论文研究了AI在三项任务中的表现:匹配获胜的标题和相应的图片,在两个标题中选择获胜的标题,以及解释幽默。结果显示,人类仍然领先,但AI正在缩小差距。这篇论文也为AI创作漫画幽默提供了一种途径。 我们利用人类标注的653场漫画比赛数据对AI进行了微调,包括对漫画的描述和幽默的解释。然后,我们用这些数据生成了50幅新的合成漫画,并让漫画家Shannon Wheeler根据这些漫画创作新的作品。 Shannon认为这些AI生成的漫画有些奇怪,它们并不完全像真正的漫画,存在‘恐怖谷’效应。但这很有趣,因为这些都是全新的漫画,它们代表了计算机创造力的一个方向。我认为AI可以作为漫画家进行头脑风暴的工具。 AI生成的漫画质量有待提高,需要人类参与和改进。AI可以生成大量的作品,但需要人类来筛选和改进。 但我不会认为AI拥有真正的人类幽默感。人类的幽默感源于脆弱性和对死亡的认知。如果我们让AI经历人类的痛苦,那将是残酷的。如果AI真的想要消灭人类,我希望它们先消灭Elon Musk。

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Why is humor considered a uniquely human trait?

Humor is rooted in human vulnerability and the curse of mortality, as Mark Twain noted. It’s tied to our emotional experiences and shared cultural context, which AI lacks.

What role does the New Yorker caption contest play in AI research?

The contest serves as a benchmark for AI to understand and generate humor. It involves analyzing images and matching them with captions, testing AI's ability to grasp human creativity.

How has AI progressed in understanding humor?

AI has improved in tasks like matching captions to images and explaining humor, but it still lags behind humans. However, it shows potential as a brainstorming tool for cartoonists.

What was the outcome of AI attempts to create New Yorker-style cartoons?

AI generated new cartoons, but they fell into an 'uncanny valley' of humor, lacking the depth and cultural relevance of human-created cartoons. They were seen as useful for brainstorming but not as replacements.

Why does Bob Mankoff believe AI could be a useful tool for cartoonists?

AI can generate a large quantity of ideas quickly, which can be refined by human cartoonists. It acts as a brainstorming aid, offering a starting point for creativity rather than a replacement.

What is the 'Funniness Score' in the New Yorker caption contest?

The Funniness Score is a metric derived from over a million online judgments, helping to determine the best captions from thousands of entries. It’s a crowdsourced measure of humor.

What does Bob Mankoff think about the fear of AI replacing humans?

Mankoff dismisses the 'P-Doom' (probability of AI doom) as 'P-Dumb.' He believes AI’s role should be focused on enhancing human creativity rather than replacing it.

How did the New Yorker caption contest evolve in terms of caption selection?

Initially, captions were selected by Mankoff and his assistants, but in 2016, the process shifted to crowdsourcing, allowing readers to vote and determine the Funniness Score for captions.

What was the result of AI's early attempts to decode New Yorker cartoons?

In 2016, AI struggled to decode the images and understand the humor, showing it was not yet capable of matching human creativity in this domain.

What does Bob Mankoff mean when he says AI hallucinates?

Mankoff views AI’s tendency to 'hallucinate' or make up information as a feature, not a bug, as it mirrors the creative process of making up stories or cartoons.

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Bob Mankoff, former New Yorker cartoon editor, explores the intersection of AI and humor. He questions whether AI can replicate human creativity in comedy, and whether this capability is even desirable. He introduces the concept of 'P-Funny,' the probability that AI can generate humor.
  • AI's capability to generate humor is questioned
  • The concept of 'P-Funny' is introduced as the probability of AI generating humor
  • Fears of AI replacing humans are discussed in the context of humor

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There's a lot that AI is capable of these days, but can it match human creativity when it comes to humor? Former New Yorker cartoons editor Bob Mankoff put the machines to the test when it comes to cartooning and quips. In his 2024 talk, he shares what he learned from trying to get AI to make jokes. Whether you're thrilled by what AI can do for us or terrified by what AI is going to do to us...

Whether it can be funny is probably not top of mind for you. It is for me. I don't care if it turns all of us into paperclips, as long as they're funny paperclips. And the fact that it makes stuff up, hallucinates, for me, that's not a bug, that's a feature. My entire career was making stuff up. They're called cartoons.

There is no algorithm for humor, but now with the rapid pace of AI, I have to wonder, could there be a bot Mankoff? You might think my reflexive answer to this would be, how about never? But while I don't want to be replaced by a bot, I'm not above being helped by it.

Steve Jobs famously said that computers are a bicycle for the mind. If that's the case, what's AI? A rocket ship? And at my age, you know what? I'd settle for a walker. The fears of machines replacing humans are not new. When the goals of machines and humans go horribly awry, at least for one of the parties,

Cartoons don't happen in a cultural vacuum. They're part of the zeitgeist. The guy who invented cybernetics, Norbert Wiener, who said thinking machines were putting us on the eve of destruction. Now, sadly and tragically, Norbert Wiener died, but not by a thinking machine, but by an unthinking one. He was run over by a bus. That's not true. I made that up.

I hallucinated it because it's funny. So these fears are not new, not novel, but now in the immortal words of Nigel Tufnell of Spinal Tap, they go to 11.

They're cranked to the max. And here is one of the maximum cranksters of all time, Elon Musk, saying AI is one of the biggest threats to humanity, but certainly not as big as Elon Musk. People like Elon have a P-Doom number. That's the probability AI is going to wipe us out. I think P-Doom is P-Dumb.

I'm interested in P-Funny, and I've been using the New Yorker caption contest to look into the probability of that.

Every week since 2005, the New Yorker has presented a cartoon without a caption and challenged its readers to come up with the winning caption in the caption contest. And for that, they get the glory of being in the New Yorker magazine, a huge amount of money, a house in the Bahamas that Sam Bankman freed. Actually, it's just the glory.

On the page of the New Yorker, there's a contest you enter.

The finalists from a few weeks before, three finalists, and a winning caption. So it's staggered in that way. Each one of these images are funny. They're in Congress. You'd certainly think they're humorous. But they're not funny in a way that you get. They're not mentally funny. To make it that, of course, you need the right caption. Okay, but with up to 10,000 captions,

How do you select that? Now, from 2005 to early 2016, that burden fell on me and my assistants, but mainly my assistants to try to cull the good captions from what we uncharitably call the craptions. But then, in early 2016, for the benefit of all humanity,

but mainly for me and my assistants, we switched to crowdsourcing. So now for every contest, you vote online and a Funniness Score

from over a million judgments is given for all the captions. Now overall I'm against mob rule, but actually in this case the mob does a pretty good job. Usually the finalists, almost certainly, almost all the time really, the finalists come from the top 200 captions.

Well, this is popular not only with the New Yorker, but it's caught the eye of data scientists, creativity searchers, cognitive scientists, and AI, of course, and everything adjacent to AI. I wasn't really surprised when Vincent Van Hook, then the chief data scientist for Google's DeepMind, now the head of robotics, sent me this email saying,

indicating that winning the caption contest, which was actually somewhat of the sine qua non of human creativity and intelligence. And I was also flattered by that, of course, but I didn't think they had any chance at all of doing it. And it turned out that was the case. All of the AI juju circus...

2016 wasn't up to the task. It really couldn't even decode the image. So for the sine qua non of the human mind, DeepMind was non-compostmentous and out of its depth. Time and AI marched on.

AI marching quadruple time. Vincent gets back to me and says, while human creativity might still be out of reach, we think we have understanding well in hand. He sends me this ridiculous uber nerd example of explaining humor, and I said, you know what?

Let me give you a cartoon I did in 1997 in this other watershed moment when IBM's DeepMind defeated Garry Kasparov, the world chess champion. And here's the cartoon I did then. And it says, no, I don't want to play chess. I just want you to read the lasagna. I rate this explanation a solid B-minus.

But so what if it was an A? Is there ever going to be a beautiful New Yorker cartoon anthology of explanations? I don't think so. The idea that understanding humor could be a stepping stone to creating it sort of made sense. This paper I was involved in tried to look at compared to smart humans, what were the best AIs do on three tasks?

Could they, from winning captions from different contests, match to the right image? Could they, between two captions, one that won and the one that was pretty good, pick the right one? And could they explain the humor? Now, for all of them, you know what? Yay, humans, we're still ahead. But AI is closing the gap. The most interesting thing about this paper for me was it showed a pathway for which you could create cartoon humor.

And that was how we trained the contest. For 653 contests, the AI was trained fine-tuned on these examples which humans annotated. A description of the cartoon, an explanation of the humor. Okay, if you've used ChatGPT, you sort of get the idea now. Put a number of examples like this. Put it in the prompt window. Rinse and repeat.

and you get new cartoons. Well, Jack Hustle, the chief author of the paper, did something more sophisticated, and what he did was create 50 synthetic new cartoons generated from this old data in which there were five options for captions. I picked four of them, and I gave them to cartoonist Shannon Wheeler to draw up. Now, Shannon said, well, these are weird. They don't really seem like cartoons.

It's sort of an uncanny valley of cartoons. They're not quite there. But it is interesting, all of these are new cartoons that never appeared anywhere that are an idea of computer creativity. But I do see this now as a tool for brainstorming for cartoonists.

in that we played this completely straight. Shannon wasn't able to manipulate the description of the picture or the caption. Had he done that, it could have been better. Also, we could have asked it to make more. We could have put in the rankings for the humor. We could do all this to improve it. So quality comes out of quantity. You can get an awful lot of quantity here. You can have a human being in the loop to do this.

But I would not go so far to give AI a true human sense of humor. A human sense of humor is not about making a joke or getting it. It's rooted in our vulnerability. It's the blessing we get for the curse of mortality. Mark Twain said, the true source of humor is not joy, but sorrow.

If we gave AI the thousand natural shocks that flesh is heir to, that would be cruel. If we did that, it might very well want to wipe us out. And if they did, all I ask is that they take Elon first. Thank you. That was Bob Mankoff speaking at TEDxU of M in 2024.

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