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436 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Bill Murray

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Adam Thorne. This might either be the worst podcast or the best one of all time. One, go. Enjoy the show. I've been asleep for 80 hours, so I'm beyond simple fatigue. The hallucinations have stopped, finally, thank God. But my adrenaline reserves are burning out, and I'm staring straight into the face of a total psychotic freakout. What are you doing? I'm writing. Writing? Yeah. My deadline pays, too. I'm pouring it on now. Right on the edge, but...

I made a smart move checking into this place because, you know, in case I lose it totally, you know, I know I'll be safe in the arms of the Sisters of Mercy, huh? Oh, that is Bill Murray playing Hunter S. Thompson in... What's that movie called, Pete? Buffalo? Where the Buffaloes Roam. There we go. What a legend. Excellent movie. So good, right? Wild.

But I think everything with Hunter S. Thompson is trippy, right? Oh, totally. It just has to be. It's like one of those movies where you watch it and you actually feel like you're on something. You're like, is this normal? Why? What's going on here? Yeah. My brain. It's definitely not as trippy as Fear and Loathing.

But it's interesting how Johnny Depp and Bill Murray had their own take on the character. And they are similar in a lot of ways. Yeah, I like the Bill Murray's a little more goofy vibe. I think a little more psychedelic sometimes. And Hunter S. Thompson is kind of like whacked out.

He's like bug-eyed and scrambling around a lot more. Yeah. Ultimately, you can definitely tell they're the same guy. Well, they made Johnny Depp look far worse, I think. Yeah. His shaved head and, yeah. It's like the first time he looked really ugly in a movie. And you're like, fair play. I really enjoyed how the intro, obviously, Rogan is a big fan. Who isn't? Everyone loves Bill Murray. So many legendary roles.

Ghostbusters. I mean, the list goes on. But Rogan was just like, yeah, so great to have you here. Been a fan forever. Kind of shocking that you're here, you know? And then Bill was just like, yeah, a bit different for me. Had no idea who you were. And it's like, what level of legend is that? You're Joe. Is that right?

I mean, it makes sense that, you know, he's just interested in different shit and he's not connected to the world of like, I don't know, following this type of stuff that would introduce him to Joe. But he did give a bit of a preference to not a preference, but like reference to the fact that some of his friends were excited that he was going on and others kind of warned him because of that.

you know, whole space out there that's like Joe Rogan, far right exclamation points. Right, which doesn't make sense to me, but I think that Joe did a really good job of putting himself at ease and putting Bill at ease. Yeah, I think so. It's not fair that he's labeled that. Hey, I don't think. Once Bill started talking, they got into it. Once he knew about

Rogan's kind of obsession with Hunter S. Thompson. He'd already seen the artwork in the hallway. He was all about it, you know? And he wasn't even bothered when he was like, oh, you filmed this too? He's just like, let's go. Let's get on with it. He had no idea about Joe's setup. Oh, I don't even know if he's done a podcast that I can think of. Probably not. Yeah, he was just concerned about the time.

Like, oh, we could just talk for hours. Is that right? Yeah, he had to be kind of goaded into going into depth about a few things because they had the time for it. He didn't know that it was long-form podcasts. Well, the only time he would have had that in the past is just, you know, like an actual reporter talking to him and, like, spending a good amount of time with him getting information. Yeah.

The nice thing about... Yeah, the nice thing about this setup, though, is you can't take it out of context. It's not like somebody is writing a story on it or a summary. Everything that you're saying is in there. I guess Howard Stern was...

And those radio shows of the 90s and early 2000s were kind of like that. Oh, 100%. Yeah. A little longer form. In so many ways, Howard Stern started this type of thing, for sure. Yeah. Which was ironic because he hated podcasting. I think still does. Well, he's a wackadoodle that...

He's been insulated from anybody real for so long. Mm-hmm. Yeah, he's... We're not going to go into that. We're talking about Bill. He's a little off the reservation. I mean, jumping into meeting Hunter S. Thompson, that was a cool story. So, what was he, in Aspen? And... Yes. Tied to a lawn chair. He had to do, like, some escape act. And...

They didn't know each other. Like, that's how they bump into each other and become friends. Like, wow. Just a couple of wizards at a bar. And he's like, Bill's like, I could get out of that. I could do an escape act. So he gets tied to a chair with socks. Right. And he can't get, and he's almost drowns until Hunter picks him up. And says, there you go.

And yeah, no idea who they were. You owe me one. Just imagine the conversations that they would have got into. Like getting to know each other, like it's kind of like the height of both of their fame for what they're known for and good at. And just that connection must have been pretty special to like be a part of, to see. Yeah, I think that Hunter was about, what, 10 years older than Bill Murray? Yeah.

15 i think 10 or so and he's um maybe not but he he was famous in the i think late 60s for his work on uh exposés as a journalist really like that the hell's angels he did a book about the hell's angels that i i read it was pretty cool pretty fascinating got in there deep with them he like rode with them partied with them oh yeah didn't they want to like kill him at the end of it or something

They were mad at him for something. I think the book made him mad at him, but he didn't like how they would smack their women around, and they're a bunch of meth heads. Yeah. Well, that's not ideal, is it? Let's be honest. Crankheads. Come on now. Come on, guys. But that's brave-ass reporting. I mean, I'm sure biker gangs back then, you'd disappear in the...

In the desert pretty quick. If you got on their wrong sides. Oh yeah. They'll put you in a 55 gallon barrel. And bury you in the desert or something. What did you think about the John Belushi stuff? I mean. I just always taken that as face value. That Belushi loved to party. He's out there with. Who's the fucking Princess Leia lady? Carrie Fisher. And then.

Robin Williams. And they're just... That always was the trio that they showed together. And it's like, they're just partying up a storm. And then it ends in Belushi's death. And he was obviously a legend. So you're like, alright, well, drugs got him. But Bill's like, he was a lightweight. This wasn't his thing. That's a tragedy. And I had no idea about that until he said that. So it's just another...

twisted narrative from somebody who's, I guess the guy they were talking about, what is his name, Bob Woodward? Uh-huh. Is that the one? Yeah. That reported on Belushi's death. He would totally lie. Basically, you know? I mean, he's also famous for doing a book on Nixon and it made Murray go, well, that's probably bullshit too. And discredited it in its own way. And you're like, wow.

Like, that would be such a crazy narrative if, you know, some so-called reporter and author just sold a lot of books saying something that it was before a time when anybody could be like, hey, that's bullshit. That's not how it was. It wasn't like fact checkers back then.

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It's like amphetamine, right? Or no? I guess is what's injected, right? So it's a mix of cocaine and heroin. Oh, really? Damn. Speedballing might just be doing cocaine and heroin at the same time, however you do it. Okay. We Google it.

I don't know. I stay away from that one. I stay away from it. Yeah. One at a time. But I, but I think it's an important narrative, right? It's like a kind of, for a lot of people probably tainted Belushi's image. I mean, you know, like Bill was saying, he should be credited with like bringing a lot of great actors to SNL, to New York, bringing them from Chicago, uh,

and also musicians, you know? And if he wasn't also the junkie that people kind of threw out there, it's like, ease up on the guy. Brought a lot of joy to the world. I don't even care if you're a junkie, you know, tweets their own, but...

It does take away from it. It stains his probably good reputation. And so it was a bad move. Yeah, if you made the Blues Brothers, you get a pass. That movie was great. Ah, yeah. Heck yeah. We should go as Blues Brothers for next Halloween. It's very good. Yeah, we should do that. I'll be John. All right, nice.

I think that they still hold the record for the most cop cars destroyed in a car chase, which is kind of a cool stat, I think. Pretty good. Like 30 or hundreds. They were just going over the bridge. Like the bridge that opens for boats. Just smashed up. Always wanted to do that after watching that movie. Be sick, right?

I knew Murray was a golfer. I'd seen some video of him doing like celebrity stuff. You know, and obviously he did Caddyshack, which is just perfect. I didn't know his brother basically made that movie. I knew he had some famous brothers, though. But that was cool to hear.

And then, you know, Rogan geeked out over that. I mean, it's like a very iconic status. Like if you're in Caddyshack, that's a big deal. That was just a legendary movie from back in the day. And then, yeah, what did he say? He was a caddy before doing anything. That's what he did. I think he said he was like 11 or 12 when he first got on a golf course to work.

And then if you caddied during the weekend on Sunday, you get to play on Monday. Something like that. Yeah, yeah. Get out there. What a cool little way to get into the game. I've never golfed. Have you ever golfed? A couple of times.

i need to get i need to give it a shot there's a great uh video online um if you google bill murray golf shot he does like a blind putt just looks the other way while like all the it's for a celebrity thing just nails it i mean he could have easily just missed that like he just really was like it if i pull this off this would be cool and nails it it's so good it's such his style

And that's a lot of how he was in his movies too. I mean, especially Ghostbusters, just like arrogance, but like pulls it off in a really interesting way, which I enjoy. Very charming. Very, very charming. Yeah. So good. I like him in Groundhog Day. Oh, that movie was excellent. I think his dad's in that one too, as the like town, his like, his dad is the, his real dad is the,

Pucks Tony Phil Wrangler. He pulls him out of the... Are you sure that's not his older brother? Is that his brother? I think so, yeah. That's his brother, isn't it? Yeah, he was also in Christmas Vacation. He's like the boss that gets kidnapped, and they bring him in in the end. Yeah, that's his bro. Don't look alike, do they? No. You talk a little bit about politics. It sounds like Murray stays away from that quite a lot.

There's a lot of election stress around his world. It was interesting them kind of debating that a little bit. And, you know, Murray, like when they were talking about the homeless situation and the crisis and Joe brought up how people are not, you know, kind of incentivized to fix it because they get paid a lot.

Right. And Murray kind of wanted to make sense of it. And it was an interesting conversation, I thought, because it's a lot of the conversation that you will have with somebody that is traditionally liberal, which I think they both are, when it comes to talking about that problem.

You know, like we want to kind of just outsource the idea that, hey, they they're doing their best. You know, they're helping these people that they're figure it out. That's a liberal state. And then, you know, obviously Rogan's talked to some people and some lawyers that have like kind of delved into this. So he has his take. And yeah, it's it's interesting to watch people either question it or defend it or just try and make sense of it.

I think that's the problem when you are so apolitical or you don't want to stretch yourself out, that you don't actually deep dive into something and really learn about it. Then you can just, the people that tell you anything, you can believe anything unless you educate yourself a little bit about those issues. Like people are literally getting, becoming millionaires working for the homeless. $400,000 a year salaries to house the homeless. And guess what? The homeless aren't housed.

Yeah, I saw this thing on Instagram the other day. And to be fair to the post, most of the comments were kind of really giving shit to the person that made the post. But it's like one of those, what do they call themselves? Like citizens, some things. But they like try and call out cops when they're breaking rules.

Right. Which is a bold ass move because that's going to piss off some cops. But it was a police captain in L.A. that does his job plus overtime, plus like moonlighting or whatever. And he's making like 400 grand a year. That's what the president gets paid, though, saying that you've got to put it in perspective, like obviously overtime should be paid.

If you're putting the work in, you know, you're allowed to do that. You know, nobody should have any gripe with that. But yeah, it is kind of interesting when you start hearing about these government jobs that, you know, they're generally pretty secure jobs. They have...

solid benefits, you know, pensions, retirements, these sorts of things. Sometimes advantages to investing and getting loans because banks know that you have a secure job. And then you're also making quarter of a million plus. Yeah, as a taxpayer, like you definitely want that justified. And I think that's reasonable. He was like going to LGBTQ marches and just watching. He wasn't, you know, that's the problem. He was just being a

And maybe that... But to be fair, though, a lot of, you know, often what patrol cops will do is just show up to make a presence. I mean, what are they supposed to do? Run around? They can't force arrests. They're just there to do it. But they have to be there. Yeah.

Maybe he wasn't offering that to everybody else and he was just taking the sweet assignments, something like that. Yeah, who knows? I mean, but this is why those oversights are good, I think. This is why, you know, things that like baby Doge stuff is up to is also kind of useful. Obviously, there's a lot of energy around that right now. Dude, what do you make of the Tesla...

Like people attacking terrorism. So I know someone in town here. They have a cyber truck. And I went into the brewery and there was only two cars in the parking lot. One was a cyber truck and there was only two guys inside. So it was one of them. And I go, hey, who owns the cyber truck?

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It's so dumb. It is pretty dumb. It really is pretty dumb. Are you going to get mad at me for buying my stuff at Walmart because Walmart's doing even more bad things to our environment? It doesn't make much sense, does it? Nobody is getting mad.

It's like, what is, like, nobody's getting annoyed at people filling up with fuel at gas stations. And I don't think any of us are, like, super pro Exxon.

Oh, no offense, Exxon. You can sponsor the show anytime. I'll sell you petroleum. I get it. But, you know, it's like they've always they've always kind of been seen as like, you know, the worst for the environment or the like, you know, money hungry corporate elites that control governments. It's like no one's getting mad there.

It just seems like a strange focus, especially because it's so many liberals that own those vehicles. They did it for environmental reasons. They also got that tax credit that is an environmental incentive. And then someone draws a swastika on that car that's probably also a liberal, maybe even more left.

It's like the weirdest infighting ever. Yeah, it doesn't seem like it's helpful to anybody. Also, it goes back to that thing, like, maybe you should figure out what this guy's doing that you say you hate so much. I don't think you actually, if you learn about the things he's up to, maybe you wouldn't actually think he's a bad guy. He's trying to save you money, like,

Maybe that's hit or maybe that's not a... No, but I mean, I think that the narrative there is that that's not true. I think the narrative there is that he's not doing it. He just has, you know, unreasonable access to everything. And he shouldn't be able to have this control just because he's a billionaire. My question there is how much control over everyone did Fauci have? And realistically, who the fuck was he? You know, he was giving advice to...

the president to shut everything down like that is a ridiculous amount of power and it's like what are you bringing to the table like why and yeah he that yeah that that's literally killed people right yeah I don't know anyway that was

Maybe we'll get a Tesla at discounted rates here soon. Dude, they're going to be cheap. They're going down in price. Resell value. That's how you get one if you want. They're pretty fast. I'll just buff out that swastika. Yeah, I'll just buff it out. Hang over it. What do you think of the early days of SNL and Bill Murray being on that? Did you watch a lot of the early days? I did with my dad. Yeah, we used to watch those. Okay.

Because that was when him and his brother were watching it back in the 70s and 80s. Right. And it's hilarious. It's so good. It's goofy. Yeah. They were taking big risks early on. Like, they're a bit more careful now. And, like, a bit more politically aligned. But, yeah, so the first, I think the first, like, weekend update was Chevy Chase. He was, like, the big player.

And he came over from like National Lampoons, which was, I think, just a magazine before or something. So that was like mostly where the team was from. And somehow SNL grabbed most of that team. So there's like real conflict between those two. And yes, second season, they bring Bill Murray in.

And I think from what I remember, that's like why Chevy left eventually. There was like a lot of tension between Bill Murray and Chevy early on because like Bill was seen as like the new star. So they were vying for that position. And Chevy was, I guess, very, very arrogant, hard to work with kind of guy. That's what they say. Yeah. Chevy was a hard, hard guy to work with.

Yeah, I've heard a lot of that from that college show, what is it, Community? Uh-huh. That, you know, he was great on, but supposedly, yeah, just a real pain in the ass to deal with. It was a mess. That was a good show, too. Yeah, it was. It was a good show. Geez, I guess Mr. Murray has a bunch of stuff coming up, doesn't he? Well, he's got this— Three new movies coming out. Yep, the new movie that they were talking about. Some SNL characters on there.

And, yeah, he's still plugging away. I mean, how old is this guy right now? You got to Google that. I'm going to guess 67. Nah, older than that. Older than that? I think. What's my guess? 75. 74. 74, still going strong. I mean, he's pretty old, though. Got, like, I don't know how many more years of, like, how long can you act until? I guess...

What's his name? Clint Eastwood is acting like in his 90s, I think. Yeah, he's up there, huh? That guy's a savage. You have to pick your roles. You got to pick the roles for sure. Yeah. But yeah, still knocking away some good comedies and has some classics in that, dude. Undefeated classics. He's probably maybe other than who else am I thinking of?

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But yeah, he might be the most successfully famous person. Maybe Adam Sandler. I mean, there are some big names. But movie-wise, yeah, it's hard to say. I mean, I think Bill Murray's worth like $400 million. Well, his movie roles. Right. And, I mean, Eddie Murphy. Maybe Eddie.

eddie might be bigger but he hasn't done anything for a while he like eddie's taking a real break he went to all family friendly stuff yeah did some cheesy things but you know that's like adam sandler they they pay you so much money to do those they're kind of safe like even when they're a flop they're not because the family went and there's enough people there you just got to kind of try and make the movies cheap so you get you make a lot of money

I like Adam Sandler's movies except for like, you know, four out of five of them. Yeah. That's reasonable. Four out of five. Little Nicky is good. Yeah. Yeah. Remember that one? Uh-huh. Ridiculous.

Yeah, there's some great stuff out of SNL. And this is where these amazing characters came from. Bill Murray, legend. I hope he keeps making movies. Unlikely we'll see him back on Rogan. That's just my hunch. Not that he didn't like it, but, you know, he did his thing. It's great that he came on. That's like a bucket list Rogan for me. So, yeah, I'm glad that he's been on. And, yeah.

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