430 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Woody Harrelson
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adam thorn might either be the worst podcast or the best one one go enjoy the show hey guys and welcome to another episode of the jre review this week um pretty exciting there's some great guests on at the moment woody harrelson woody motherfucking harrelson who isn't a fan of that guy i would like to know are there people out there that don't like him what do you think

None that I've heard of. There we go. Joined by Peter. Peter is back. Peter is back for a special occasion. I'm back on a probationary new pod. Is that an act right? It's reasonable. Reasonable. Yeah. So, so they brought, they start off with Joe's kind of fan bowing out. Obviously he's a huge fan. Yeah.

Woody, been a legend forever. I mean, it's hard to say if he's like A-list in that sense, but he just is A-list in his own way. Like, he's super famous. I'd say he's A-list. Yeah, he's done huge movies. The True Detectives thing that he did with McConaughey was still legendary. I mean, it's just such a powerful series.

It gives you goosebumps. That's a good one. It really does. And that's the thing. I mean, Joe's fanboying out. He doesn't do it often. And it's kind of cool to hear him and Woody wanting to hang out, be friends. Woody lives in Austin. It took a while. It did take a while for Joe to sing and for Joe that Woody lived there. I'm here, man. I live here. I'm here with you. I'm here. Yeah, he wasn't buying it.

I wasn't buying it. Joe brought up some of the blowback that he took for what he took for his SNL monologue. It was just, you know, kind of ripping on the whole COVID thing. I felt like when he did it, like that was brave. Supposedly, that was not the one.

The monologue that was intended. Approved. Yeah. And he kind of just did it, which is ballsy as fuck. The only other person I know has done that is Chappelle. Oh, yeah. Chappelle did something similar when he was talking about Trump. In 2016? I think so.

So you've got to give him some credit for that because it's, even if you didn't like it, it's like that. Imagine you having to do it. That takes a lot. Like you got to believe in yourself and your message. Those people that he's, you know, pissing off are powerful. Like even in the industry, those are guys, Lorne Michaels and those producers are powerful people. Oh yeah. Yeah. Take some bravery. Definitely. I mean, you know, he had to ask himself, I may not come back on this show ever again.

And am I okay with that? It's that type of question. And also, what is the blowback? What are reporters going to say? How many people are going to be upset? It was kind of early on towards the end of the COVID stuff too before a lot of the momentum was built to where people are – I would say people are far more suspicious today.

But anyway, yeah, he brings up what Joe went through, right? With the Robert Malone episode, how that was kind of a turning point, how important that was that it existed. I mean, there are still people out there, you know, that are very quick to dismiss Dr. Robert Malone's credentials. And he's legit, knows what he's talking about.

Is he that guy that had been published the most times in his field? Supposedly, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and also everyone in his field respected the shit out of him too. I mean, he had a real warning that he wanted to bring up, a very legit concern, and they were ready to crush him immediately. And so much so, like,

Take Joe out, which I think the media thought they could do, and they learned real quick that's not happening. They had no idea, though, even who Joe is. He's not controversial. He just talks to people. Like, there's nothing weird about this. Yeah, I don't think he'd had, like, anything you could call very controversial before that podcast. I mean...

You know, I'm sure he'd had Alex Jones on, but it was probably before Alex Jones had really upset a lot of people. So it was just it was just podcasts. Open forum of free speech. God bless these forums. That's it. That's what it's about. That's what it's about.

You remember those PCR tests we all had to take? I took hundreds of them. Yeah, we had to. Maybe 12. The guy that made those said that that was a bad thing to use, a bad tool for that type of test. Do you know what that is? What is a PCR test? I don't really know. I think it's a test that is very particular to whatever you're testing it for.

So you kind of set it for that. Like if you're looking for a flu virus or you're looking for COVID or you're looking for whatever, you can like you change the compound to react in a way. But what it does is it's kind of designed to test for very, very minute levels of that thing.

The residuals of a broken virus or something like that? Just super sensitive testing. So even if you have such a small amount that you wouldn't get sick from it and you couldn't even pass it to anyone else, it will show that you have it. Gotcha. So...

Yeah, as far as I understand. But either way, the person that made the test said this is not appropriate. This isn't the right type of test because you're going to create a bunch of false positives, which we know was happening during COVID. And then they changed that whole narrative to like, you know, it was asymptomatic.

That was the whole thing. Like, oh, you have it, but you're not showing signs. So that's just almost makes it more dangerous. You can be giving it to people at any minute, even though you seem fine. Just make just blurred the message. You know what I mean? Yeah, definitely didn't didn't do anything for us. Didn't didn't push us forward with our trust for these people. People with the powers would be. Yeah, yeah.

I don't know. I mean, you know, all that laid like led into the the whole thing with the people's faith in media. Right. I mean, in a lot of ways, that's been destroyed for a lot of people. Not everyone. I think I think some people have doubled down on that. But if you just look at media views, I mean, NBC, MSNBC, their numbers were hit hard from where they were.

I think it's maybe, I don't know the percentage, but it seems like about 80% of their viewership has gone away. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot of their viewers have gone. Throwing that number out there. No, I think it is that high. I mean, we could Google it, but, you know, it's kind of difficult to get those numbers, actually. And I don't know why. You know, maybe they're the ones controlling the reporting on their own numbers, right?

I mean, that would be interesting propaganda, right? You're like, no, we're still the number one in news. They have to self-report, I think. They're required to? Or rather, they're the ones providing those numbers. Right. Or the networks are. Let's look at all the big-time news companies.

on CNN and stuff that has gone under. And then people got fired. This is the form of the future. Yeah. I mean, so many of the CNN guys are gone. Stelza. Are you sad about Joy Reid? Oh. I know you really liked her. Don Lemon.

I know you really liked him. I know you've ever seen one of his shows. Who's seen one of his shows? I think I've seen him talk like a couple of times and I've seen some snippets of him. And I did watch the whole interview that he did with Elon when he was like, thought he had that spot on X. And it was...

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It was the worst type of smug reporting I'd ever seen. And I didn't even have a strong opinion about him before. Nor did I, because I'd never seen his show. No. I heard he was a bit of a CNN guy, so I was like, all right, this could suck. But let's check it out.

Given the benefit of the doubt, I was hoping for more. I mean, especially because Elon was talking about hiring him, putting him on X and having it be like an exclusive show. I was like, oh, cool. Maybe he has some kind of balanced reporting that would be worth it. That's probably still left leaning. I'm into it. You know, we're kind of lefty guys. So, dude, Jon Stewart, Bill Ma got lots of time for their shows often.

Jon Stewart sometimes is a little trickier to work with, but he's so reasonable in a lot of areas. And then I enjoy Bill Maher's show. His jokes hit. They land. He's always been a political commentator, so it's nothing new for him. He's almost more of a serious political commentator, I would say, than Jon Stewart in a lot of ways.

I mean, when you're talking impact, you know, Jon Stewart would kind of like kind of connected with like the younger crowd, you know, so he was like turning some heads, making people think. I felt like it was great. You know, he had all that. Some great character. Very funny. Jon Oliver. And then Jon Oliver. Yeah. Dude, I was a big fan of the first few seasons of that show.

weekend one that he does or the week what is it I can't even remember but yeah eventually it just got tiresome I'm like this there just seems so much bias at the end I was like this is just odd to watch it's not even funny now you're just like angry yeah he does the whole I'm obviously right and you're obviously an idiot and I don't still care for that anymore I used to like it

Yeah, it was more interesting when he was like making fun of the pyramid schemes or the postal service or like, you know, evangelical call in lines. And, you know, that stuff was all great, you know, but then he just got he got like literally going after individuals like hardcore. And I'm like, wow, dude, relax. I really liked his stuff about, you know.

Lukashenko, I think his name is, the Belarusian dictator. I liked his, he has a lot of good stuff. Maybe he'll come back. He used to read the Times, read the wave of the Times. Yeah. Yeah. They talked about malinformation. Had you ever heard of that term, malinformation? Yeah, Rogan said that it's basically something that's true, but it's detrimental to effects on society.

So it's like a term you can use that even ends up being quite easy to prove, therefore factual. But for whatever reason, you position it as like overall this is bad for the American people or our nation to know. It seems like any malinformation should be –

heavily discriminated against that seems bad you don't i don't see why that could be good it goes counterintuitive to what we need as everybody needs just true information right even mal information is true i mean i guess maybe if you like um declared war with a country

Need to keep it quiet. And well, no, not the war, but you're like fighting them. And then, you know, they're trying to show on the other side that all the damage that's being created and it's making people be like, I don't want to fight in this war. Then I could see why a government uses it is my point.

Okay, I'm with you. I'm with you. There might be some stuff that is true but needs to be kept back for now. I'm not saying it needs to or it should be. I'm saying I still disagree, but I get it.

You don't want this malinformation to upset operations somewhere. You don't want to be in World War II. World War II, you don't want to be humanizing the German people or the Nazis while you're trying to take them out because of the bombing. I mean, there's always an argument to be like, yeah, kids are involved. Kids are getting killed. Like, obviously bad. But like, if you're the government, you're like, I need everyone trying to fight these Nazis. Yeah.

This is, they're making some ground. They just took Paris. Like, this is a problem. Okay. I hear that one. All right. All right. Pete's pro-Nazi. That's what. Excuse me. I don't know. I don't know. Woody thinks that everyone in Congress should do mushrooms, which, what do you think? Joe's talked about this before. Yeah. When Graham was on, he said that,

every world leader or president should take like one to six trips on DMT and it should be public. Whoa. And I think that, and also that brings up another point about that where you might not become better or more good if you do these drugs. You might become more into your particular brand of evil.

But I do agree that they need to open their minds a little bit. That would be, you know, when they talk about the AIs and quantum computers and how they can run all these simulations, right? So it's like when you're doing things like material science for like the space program, you know, Elon's rockets and things, they actually don't need to physically test all those things. They can do a lot of it with computers now.

Which is really interesting. Saves a lot of time if the computers are fast enough. And it's because...

The material science and the chemistry in there all works the same way in a simulation as long as you have all the variables right as it would in the real world so they can test these things and get a real good idea of what's going to happen. Some of the ideas moving forward are like they're going to do that with medicine and do it with pharmaceuticals and drugs and things that will benefit us. But also they could do it potentially with like –

of politics and ideas of how to run a country. And maybe they could even extrapolate it out. And we're talking in the future, but they could do it with like, what happens if all the Congress people did ayahuasca? And what kind of political ideologies would you have moving forward from that? And does that benefit the

the growth and stability of countries like is hypothesized by Woody and Joe. They're like, yeah, it would be better. Or does everything just fall apart into fucking hippie nations? And it's a mess. It would be a fun little simulation to play out though and see. Well, the future is coming faster and faster. So maybe that technology is available soon. I think so. I hope so.

Yeah, they're obviously both big fans of RFK. Woody knows him and Joe interviewed him not that long ago, knows him now. Read his book. Yeah, I still haven't. I want to read that book. I think it's just going to make me mad.

I can't believe people are still like waiting Fauci flags when they read about what he's been up to at the expense of all of our friends. Dude, they're not hearing it. They won't hear it. They refuse. Like even if they read it, they would just be like, that's a lie. I mean, I don't know how he won so many people over.

It just doesn't make sense to me. Look, when I first saw him, I was like, oh, this guy seems great. He probably was put in this position for good reason. And let's hear him out and hopefully he can fix all this. And it just seemed really clear very soon that I'm like, I don't think I trust this guy at all. Seems terrible. His knowledge base is even pretty slim. Fauci doesn't even seem to be that of an intellectual, sadly.

Well, RFK wants more vigorous trials and the science behind vaccine rollouts. And, you know, he's also, I think, pushing for at least on the state level or states to be able to go after pharmaceutical companies. So they're like weirdly protected federally, but the states can still go get them, which is interesting. About his pardon. Yeah. Yeah.

Exactly. Oh, no. I'm not talking about Fauci, but yeah, he can get down on the state level. But for the vaccines and pharmaceutical companies. Yeah. Okay. The big boys. The big boys. Well, we'll see how big they are when they're getting sued. Oh, they got endless money for endless lawyers. That's true. They do have a lot. Well, not if we make the fines big enough.

It's all about the bottom line. Let's put that money back into the economy. Mm-hmm.

Joe and Woody rehash a bit of Joe's experience with CNN demonizing him, a lot of the press coming after him. I mean, Joe hasn't talked about this for a while, but that whole thing with ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, just the stuff that he was taking, and now it's been shown as being safe and effective. Yeah.

as a present but you know a treatment and you know there's like no apology it's not like cnn called joe and was like sorry about that there's not an apology but there is litigation in the works you think he's got a he's got a lawsuit i think he's there's a pending lawsuit for about that defamation oh joe joe's not suing him he sued him he has i don't think so i

I believe he has, but I can't believe I don't know that for sure when I say that. But I'm... I did hear... I don't know if it's happening. I'm not... Oh. Yeah. I've been in the woods, Adam. I've been in the woods. Get out of the woods, dude. As long as you're in the woods listening to Rogan podcasts, it's fine. Nothing can hurt me. Yeah. You're out there just doing it. Yeah, I...

I don't know. I guess it's just like there was so much emotion in it. Even the idea of rehashing where people had fucked up is just out of the question. It's like you just got to move on or you don't, and people have doubled down. That's very true. It's just a shame because it seems like people didn't learn a lot from it. And some people did. Some people got like...

A lot of information out of the whole COVID situation. I mean... Take your health into your own hands. Avoid doctors as much as possible unless you really need to go. I'm not a doctor. Don't take this as medical advice, of course. I don't want to ruin my probationary podcasting. We do need a disclaimer with it. Were you surprised that Woody's episode kind of lent so much in that direction?

Oh, I had a feeling that he was leaning that way for a while. I think it was due to that Saturday Night Live skit for one monologue. Yeah. He's also like 60-something, and people tend to gain some knowledge as they age. Not always, but how do you feel about being 65? I don't know. I hope I have more of my shit together. That's what I think about.

You don't want to get to 65 and you're just like still trying to skateboard. Like, ah, I've got to grow up, dude. You look good in vans, but those bones don't bend no more. Yeah, I think you're right. You know, he's been famous for so long too. And he's kind of done his career his way in a lot of ways and been very successful. He can have an opinion. He's allowed opinions.

And, you know, he was talking about what it was like making movies and being on set during that time. You know, they had just had these areas where everyone had to wear masks. Everyone needed all the vaccines. You got to have COVID shots immediately, otherwise you're offset. And then as soon as action, nobody's wearing a mask. And it's like suddenly this little area is allowed to exist. Yeah.

It's all arbitrary. It was so arbitrary. And we talked about this many times that we've potted in the past. It was all arbitrary. Well, the stuff on the planes was ridiculous. You know, they would have like a seat next to you empty one seat. So two feet now, two feet, two feet, not six. What is it? And it turns out six feet was just bullshit made up anyway.

Um, got to wear your mask, you know, just the same as you got to have your tray table up and your seat forward and your phone in airplane mode, which we know none of those things will crash a plane, but they still make you do it because it's all about control and obedience. And now it's like you're flying. Yeah.

And, oh, all of a sudden there's a time where you can have a coffee and you can have your mask off as long as it takes for you to drink and you can eat your food. I saw people that would, this was amazing. They would buy, like take their food, eat it and put their mask down after chewing and wait and then put their mask up and shovel again and put it down. And the pantomime of it.

I mean, I guess you could argue that that is like, oh, that's really nice that they're so considerate. If you were so considerate, you wouldn't eat at all on the plane if you were that concerned. You're not going to die in like five hours of not eating. You're just not going to. Especially we Americans. If you maybe get low blood sugar, you know, you can stick a mint in your mouth real quick. But –

This whole like sipping and moving the mask that it was just a, there was so much pantomime and hidden under the guise of like, it's, it's to help you. It's for your safety. And I I've never seen so much propaganda in my life. I don't know if I'll kind of ever get over what I saw. And the most shocking thing is not what I saw, but how a lot of people behave during it too. Yeah.

how people were just so willing to just take it on. And it was so polarizing for us. Really? Our country just came, came to two heads. Yeah. And, but I, a lot of countries didn't do that. I don't think it was that polarizing for England, for example. I mean, people didn't care for the whole process, but they just kind of followed along, did their thing. Yeah.

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They like to just follow these rules. They buck up. Buck up. When I heard they were closing all the pubs in England, I went, well, obviously there's going to be a revolution. Nothing. Nothing happened. Oh, those poor bastards. Well, we got Netflix now. They just went home, watched it, drank beers there. They're strong loggers, mind. I don't know. Not the English I remembered.

We sound old now. Sorry. Old. Almost 65. Yeah. I don't know. Well, nothing says trust science like a blanket pardon. So if anyone is a little unsure about Fauci's role, just understand that there's an unprecedented blanket pardon for that individual that went back, I think. I don't know when it went back to, but a long time.

Not quite as long as Biden's son, but that's just the love of a father, isn't it? He loves his son. He loves his son so much. He loves his Fauci. He loves his Fauci. My little Fauci. His little Fauci.

You just imagine Fauci just sat on Biden's leg. He's just like rubbing his head. My little Fauci. I am science. Never shake hands again. That's something that he said. We may never shake hands or hug people again. That is the most irresponsibly ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life. Humans require connection.

That is absurd. And that is no way to even begin to think this is how we keep people healthy. Like, what a ridiculous human being. Let's go the French route and just kiss everybody on the mouth. Just kiss them on the mouth. Just tongue in. I mean, you know, that would come at its own cost, too. So I'm just saying we've got to meet somewhere in the middle. There's a happy medium there. I think so.

I think so. Were you surprised to hear that Woody is a chess player? I actually was very surprised. Me too. I mean, he's more like a packy sack guy. But he's apparently very good. Well, Magnus Carlsen said he was pretty solid. I mean, there's literally no better compliment.

I mean, no more qualified individual. I mean, I've played chess for 20 years. And if Magnus saw me play, he would be like, did you start last week? And I'd be pretty depressed for a couple of months after that. Like he wouldn't be impressed. He would not be impressed. No. And I've been trying. Just hard as shit.

But, you know, that says something, right? I mean, I guess it's just not enough to be like, oh, yeah, well, clearly this person's intelligent, but that's a skill set. It's a tough one, you know? It's an incredibly tough game. I'm a checkers guy. Maybe you're sorry. Checkers guy? I'm a checkers guy. Nothing wrong with that. Speak to the skill level required to do that. I'm glad that he is.

Yeah. It's interesting. So what, the last bit I want to hit on, which, um, for Woody, you know, he said he's a vegan. Um, he likes the enzymes, everything's enzymes, you know, what do you say? The hearts and enzymatic thing. So it's all about enzymes. You got it. Don't cook the food.

No, excuse me. Go on. Yeah, no, that's what he was saying. I don't know about this theory. But he kind of wasn't into germ theory. He liked terrain theory, where it's more about your internal environment. Well, that would make sense about our personal health combating external antagonists. But that's the thing. It's got to be both, right? You got to be healthy yourself. And then also shit's coming from somewhere. It's coming in.

It's coming in, dude. If all the diseases just came from within us, then why is it when you're around people that are sick, they get you sick? If you like went to the woods, you're not going to get a cold. I think there was a – you remember that recluse that was living in Massachusetts that had never been sick in like 50 – 40 years he was outside and immediately he got sick when he went into prison? Yeah.

Is that right? I forget his name, but there's a lot of... Yeah, people get people sick, but also people make people stronger. Germ theory needs to be updated. It doesn't need to be thrown out.

No, but we can update a little bit like Louis Pasteur had a great thing going. Oh, yeah. Maybe we don't have to boil all the milk. I don't know. How much milk do we need to boil? Well, do you know that in England you don't have to refrigerate eggs?

i don't have to refrigerate my eggs because i have 20 chickens well there we go but i mean in the us generally when you buy them they've do they what do they call it it's not pasteurized eggs but it's like sterilize them uh they they heat wash the outside and i think they use soap so they take away they take away the cuticle i believe it's called from the egg which is deposited by the mother

hen when she squishes out an egg that's covered in her biome kind of protects it from outside influence. But why? Why don't they just leave them? What's going on outside of eggs? They're a bit poopy sometimes. Is that a problem? People getting sick? You can get bird flu? Not for me. I've never had salmonella and I eat raw eggs with unpasteurized eggs. There's

But why do they make a big fuss about raw milk in America too? Because you can get it in England. Most milk is regularly pasteurized. They still do it. But you can buy it. It's not legal to get raw. But in the U.S., supposedly, they come down on you hard. The FDA will freaking chase you through a farmer's market real fast. Set up some roadblocks and handcuff granny. They throw those spikes out while you're carrying your beets. Yeah.

My Beats. I do not know. No, it's Beats. There's some stuff they focus on too much and some stuff they should focus on a little more and revamp some of their preconceived notions. We progress in science. We need to progress our studies. Okay. Yeah. Well, I think...

I think with RFK we can get there. And, you know, a little bit of like kind of what Woody was saying, his kind of attitude towards things. It did seem fairly similar to like RFK's approach to stuff. And it's kind of interesting to see somebody like that in the position he's in. And, you know, to double down on that, it's like the fact that he's there and it's,

Under Trump and on the right. It just is mind blowing, dude. I mean, freaking all season, dude. Oh, yeah. It's just the time and stuff that will hate it. People, so many people still hate it. And I'm just talking about the stuff that the hippie liberals were talking about when I was a kid are are now stuff that the right is talking about. Yeah, I it's baffling, but it's very exciting.

And Woody's awesome. I'm glad that he's in Austin. I hope that him and Rogan become tight. They've already planned to like hang out together. It's going to be interesting to see him at Rogan's club, which you know will be on their Instagram. And, you know, I've got a feeling Woody's coming back on. So I'm looking forward to it. That could be a really fun repeat guest. Yeah.

I hope so. I hope they just smoke a bunch of a mountain of weed together because it seems like they did for this podcast. Oh, yeah, no doubt. You know, the highest badgers. They got his badges before this one.

Anyway, loved it. Thank you guys so much. Appreciate you as always. Pete, pleasure to have you back on. We're going to be doing more of these. And once you move up here to good old Bozeman, Montana, we're going to be doing a lot more. So it's going to be great. Good. Looking forward to it. And yeah, enjoy that episode. Go watch it, listen to it, whatever you need to. And we'll talk to everybody next week. Thanks, guys. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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