425 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Dan Richards
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Now with your host, Adam Thorne. This might either be the worst podcast or the best one of all time. One, go. Enjoy the show. I guess it's probably a good time to talk about this. There was a thing that came out recently. There was a book. There was some book about the Kamala Harris campaign where they talked about her getting on this show.

And they said a bunch of things that weren't true. They talked to a supposedly talked to like 150 different people about her and you know what happened with her coming on the show. I don't know if it's 150 a lot of people.

They didn't talk to us, which is kind of crazy. They didn't even ask. But they said things that just weren't true. One of the things they said that weren't true was that we lied about the day that Trump was coming on. No, we just didn't tell you that Trump was coming on. He was already booked a long time ago. This is how it worked.

Trump was really easy to book. Like, super easy. We offered one day, he said yes, that was it. There was no, "What are we going to talk about? How long is it going to be? Is it going to be edited?" There was nothing. What's the waiver? Here, give me that waiver. Sign it. There we go, folks. This is the controversy that's happening with the Kamala Harris-Joe Rogan conversation.

I mean, there's been many articles written right now about what happened, why Kamala didn't go on or Kamala. And where are we with this? You know, it's like, is is everything that they're saying bullshit over there? I mean, I'm starting to think so.

Like they're really hammering Joe about this. And it's like, why even do damage control after you lost this hard? I don't know. What do you think? I find it unfortunate and sort of discouraging how much misinformation is spread during election seasons. And, you know, yeah,

the rumors that go around during this time about both parties, you know, and, and a lot of it is taken out of context. Um, and true and truly a lot of them just like, there's not a lot of truth to them. Uh, and I just find it wild. You know, these stories take off before facts are checked. And, um, in this scenario, we, we all, uh,

you know, lovers of Joe Rogan fans, I guess, and love, you know, people who love the Joe Rogan experience want to believe that he was in the right here and that he's telling the truth here. Obviously there's not, um, any way to validate this entirely, but I believe he's telling the truth. I believe he's telling the correct like series of events. And, um,

Um, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of random, like peculiar circumstances around Kamala coming on the show and why she didn't come on the show. And as Joe explains, I mean, getting Trump on was easy. It was, here's the day. Okay. Sign the waiver. You're on. Show up. Just him. Three hours. And it's normal. As it typically should be for a Joe Rogan experienced guest. Yeah.

Nothing complicated about it. Yeah. Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me. And, you know, this was covered in the Dan Richards episode. Obviously, this is a bit of a sideline to most of Joe and Dan's conversation. But it was the most controversial thing happened in the Rogan sphere up until now. And you know what? Honestly, I...

I was kind of, like, curious about how this went down. Like, I didn't expect Joe to run some sort of, you know, psyop against Kamala. But at the same time, I'm like, all right, well, you're hearing this from their side, and I feel like they would have wanted her on. Like, that's a good move. Maybe they really couldn't adjust.

like get her on. No, turns out she didn't want to go is what I think. I mean, if all of the things, like all of the ways that he made it possible, she basically made it impossible. She, for every reason that he was like, this makes sense. Let's make it easy. She was like, this is not what I want. And, and I'm going to show that through making it complicated. Um,

Yeah, it's so unfortunate. I mean, he talked a bit about, you know, wanting to...

have had both guests on, Trump as a guest and Kamala as a guest, and releasing the episodes on the same day. No, no, he didn't want them on together. He was just going to release... No, no, right. Release the episodes on the same day. Right. And, I mean, like, he didn't want to be... He wasn't trying to be biased in his own right. Like, he was really trying to give both candidates an open platform, a large...

influential you know widespread platform to speak their their message and and one of those two parties just simply uh forfeited that opportunity that's so wild yeah they had a billion dollar budget to figure out how to become president and they didn't have a team that was like oh

Like, even if you had a team that was like, yeah, I don't think you should go on a lot of podcasts. Like, how do you miss Rogan's? And then there's like this weird, like, what is it? CBS or one of the channels is like highly edited. You know, they're careful about the question. I don't think she can handle any questions.

I think world leaders facing her would have eaten her to pieces. And that was the best you could bring to the table. Like I'm open to people that are like strong leaders, like always on any side. I love to like, listen to somebody that can like affirm their position, stand by it. And it's like, this is what I want. Yeah. I think, you know,

As a younger person, a younger adult, thinking about who you want to vote for, you go into the world thinking about sort of this personality that the leader of your country will have. And it's something along the lines of the averages of who has been, you know, there's the George W. Bushes, there's the JF Kennedys, there's the, you know,

the George Washington's which obviously we know nothing about personnel I'm very little about personality wise because there's no television and video recording of that but that said like you know as someone who sort of entered the voting world in the Obama era you you sort of have this mindset of like okay someone who is well-spoken it's someone who's confident it's someone who's

likeable and someone who's like you know genuine honestly more than anything that's something that i respect about obama as a human as a human right and as a candidate is his genuinity um i don't know that i feel that directly from trump but i i feel like with kamala there's this

fake like level of fakeness where it's like she's she's really trying to be genuine and it's like she's failing like because she's the opposite of that whereas Trump is genuinely him and it's not what I always expected as someone who was going to be our president who was going to be you know a world leader and

But when you compare the two personality wise, it's like, who do you want standing up for you? Someone who is scared, someone who, who, who is, who kind of lies, who, who kind of, you know, shies away from the hard truths of what is her reality. Or do you want someone that says, yeah, maybe like, maybe I've fucked up. Maybe I've been a bad person, but here's what I'm going to do that is good and is like really brave and strong about it.

Yeah, that's an interesting one. I mean, you know, I don't think it's unreasonable. And Joe said it before, like, you know, Obama was a good statesman. He was a strong statesman. He was what we expect a president to sound like. However, we really want a president to act like. And I don't think Obama did that.

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not a guarantee. Investment advisory services offered by Stash Investment LLC and SEC registered investment advisor investing involves risk. Offer is subject to TNCs. I think he spoke like it and that was great, but I don't think he acted like it. Yeah. From what I can tell. Potentially. Yeah. I mean, that's very...

It's just my opinion. Oh, for sure. I mean, everyone is entitled to their opinion and that's the great thing about living in a free country, right? We get to, we get to make our own decisions. Yeah. And we can be wrong. We can be wrong. Yeah. We, we can feel right and we can be wrong. Right. Like, and there's, there shouldn't be any judgment there.

Um, a hundred percent like Obama sort of embodied for a lot of people what you said, like he was a statesman, he spoke well. Um, and when Trump sort of came onto the scene, it was like, who, who is this person that is like not a political person? Like who is not a, like a political careers man. And yet in office, um,

He speaks to a lot of people like he he really gets a lot of people feeling confident in him and he hasn't had a history of it. Right. Yeah. I mean, listen, Obama got out of power. He was in for eight years. And I would say like the more impoverished areas, the south side of Chicago, you know, primarily like poorer black neighborhoods didn't improve a lot.

And that was the hope, the dream. And I wanted it to be true too. Right. And, you know, forgive me if I'm wrong, but if your neighborhood improved greatly, like, fuck yeah. Power to you and good. And I want to hear about it. But I don't think it did. I don't think he focused on that. Right. And that's heartbreaking. Right. You know, like to run on something like that.

yeah but anyway yeah so so dan richards came on not to talk about this but but joe had to cover it and um dan is like you know not one of those pseudo archaeologists he's he's kind of more of a guy that um how would you describe him

Like, he's skeptical of a lot of the types of discoveries, like how the pyramids were built, how these stones were put together, all the rest of it. Yet he also is asking the question all the time, like, yeah, maybe it isn't this way that, you know, the ancient aliens crew is saying that's how it was built. But how the fuck was it put there?

Like, what's going on? I don't believe mainstream archaeology. I think it's older. I think it's different. What's the story? You know? And, you know, they get into it with the Ark of the Covenant, right? Which is an interesting one because it's like Indiana Jones. It's, you know, the Bible.

And they're saying it's in Ethiopia. It's in this old church, this super old church. Where do you go from there? Yeah, I genuinely don't know. Like, I mean, some of these concepts are a bit far-reached for me. Like, I don't think about ancient ruins on a regular basis. And I don't think about...

the control that is had over those and sort of like what that means for, for different, um, cultures in different countries. Um, what I found really interesting about this conversation and this topic in general was that, um, they've found that priests who guard, um,

this arc of the covenant, suffer from radiation poisoning. And in the same vein, blindness and shorter lifespans. And some of that I wonder, is this coincidence due to other environmental circumstances or does this have to do with this ancient ruin in and of itself? Well, who is checking that?

I don't know. Who is going in there and checking their radiation poisoning and their blindness? Well, maybe nobody, but maybe we should be. Maybe they just already picked a bunch of blind priests. Yeah, as I say, maybe there's a coincidence. Maybe these two priests that have been exposed to this have also been previously exposed to something else. I think that if people thought the Ark of the Covenant was in some Ethiopian church...

I don't know how difficult it would be for some people to take it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. You know,

- Yeah, I do know, but I don't know. - Well, look, if it was like a UFO landed, and we've talked about that on previous shows, they send in Black Hawk helicopters. They're gonna scoop it up. - Right. - I feel like the Ark of the Covenant is something people would investigate heavily. - So what you're saying is you think it's not real? - No, well, yeah, I think nothing is there, for sure.

I think we could find out. I think someone could walk by with, what do they call those things? A Gaia counter? Yeah. Like clicking away and be like, oh, wow, it's a lot of radiation over there. Maybe we should check that out. Right. I mean, how hard is that? What's the kind of security on this Ethiopian church? Yeah, probably none. I mean, it's hard to say. A couple of blind priests? Maybe. They're going to be easy to trick. Yeah.

You just like throw a rock to the left and they're like, Oh, it's over there. And just walk around. God bless them. They're doing their best. But, um, well, to be fair, I mean, Dan takes a really balanced approach in this, um, realm. Uh, he's, he's into alternative history, you know, and I'd say that he's a skeptic. Um, he, he called out a few theories, um,

that I would say don't hold up. Like the idea of ancient stone blocks producing electricity through peas electricity.

Am I saying that right? Pizzo electricity? Pizzo? Pizzo electricity. That's a good note that you wrote down. Yeah. Pizzo? Pizzo? Pizzo electricity. Yeah. That's an interesting spelling. I like your notes sometimes. Yeah. My notes are really good. Yeah. They're really thorough. Well, they just hard to read. Yeah. I mean, look, Dan, you know, he's a skeptic.

He challenges mainstream alternative narratives. He's also not, you know, jumping down the ancient aliens route to, you know, he doesn't just go, oh yeah, they melted this together with some super technology. He doesn't pretend to know how things are working, but he questions it, which is great.

And he does it well. He's respectful of other ideas, which is really how we can make sense of what is really happening. He can bring people in, chat with them, and even if they think completely different than he does...

um he can find just kind of like a middle ground like yeah yeah that doesn't really make sense but i like where you're coming from are you open to this and that's really where the dialogue is breaking down as far as i can tell with you know archaeology and the quote-unquote pseudo-archaeologists yeah is they're at war with each other yeah yeah i would say he

as a individual brings forward, like, especially on platforms like this, I mean, on his, on his pod, on his, uh, YouTube show for sure, you know, both factual and just evidential information, um, that challenges both narratives of like what is mainstream and what is alternative. Um, and, um,

I think it's really natural for people to pick a side, you know, and to say, I just basically resonate with this opinion, like this, this viewpoint on this topic. Um, this sort of supports my, my narrative rate of like what I find important, what I value, what I think is critical and what is like, you know, um, valuable. Yeah.

But I think people don't always search for true, like actual evidence. There's just like, it's like they search for evidence that supports their narrative. And I think there's a real problem in that. And I've said this before. I'll say it again. There are three sides to every story. And, you know, finding the truth should always be the goal, not substantiating your side of the story. Yeah.

Yeah, for sure. And that's always the problem. It's like, are they open? Are they willing to listen? And do you need a PhD to have an opinion? Right. And who knows? Especially if there's a lot of pressure in that world to just follow the narrative. I mean, I think a lot of good PhD archaeologists are shut down with their theories because they're not even given the space to, like, attempt it.

And it's, you know, they're all guessing, really. Well, that's where, like, funding for certain research projects comes into play, right? I mean, a lot of funding for research is looking for a specific answer from the research, a specific support in hypothesis. Are you saying Pacific or specific? Specific. Oh, good. Specific. Solid. Yeah, right? Like, you know.

Projects that are, you know, or research initiatives that are looking to support or, you know, challenge some some mindset over something like or some evidence like you can basically take scientific evidence in any almost in any context to support one side or another. That's where it gets scary. Gets real scary. And we talked about that before. Yeah. Gets real scary.

I mean, look, let's jump over to something that's a bit more exciting. The Mars anomalies. Okay. So we have what looks like the base of a pyramid on Mars. Now, this is not a new photo, folks. Okay? We've had this a while. I say we, not me. But, I don't know, NASA, I guess? And it looks...

like perfectly square what would that be the base of a pyramid like i don't know how long it would take for a pyramid to erode away i assume the base would last the longest what do we think is this really the sign of ancient construction is it bullshit is it like the face i mean the face is close to that where do we go from here

I think that's the question, you know. Land some shit, Elon. Get your robots out there. Right. Start walking around with your, like, humanoid robot things and just, like, dig it up. I mean, it's hard. You know, you think about shadows and light reflection in general. Like, sometimes there are weird anomalies that don't feel real. You know, the people are like, oh, I saw an angel or, oh, I saw this. And so...

It's, I find it hard to believe that like this, like one or like very limited imaging that we have of Mars from this company is like specifically exhaustive. Right. I guess not specific, but is exhaustive. Um, and you know, I don't know. It's part of me feels like we've been here before. Like we've speculated about shadows of things, um,

On Mars before. And it like wasn't really that big of a deal. I don't know. I don't know if you recall, but... You mean the face? Yeah, it was like...

This like face that they found on Mars. Yeah. And it turned out to just be shadows playing tricks. Well, I mean, camera and we all kind of freaked out. We were like, Oh my God, what is this? What is this? And it, and it really turned out to be nothing. And so I feel like with, maybe it is though. Well, maybe it is, but maybe it's not. I don't know. I have such a hard time because sometimes I'm like, God, I get really excited and I get super like worked up. And then I'm like,

Oh my gosh. Like I have real life to think about. And obviously I want to know about these like crazy far-fetched possibilities and I want to be ahead. Don't get me wrong. Like I want to know and I want to be expect, I want to be,

of the normal like expectation of what's happening. But I also, sometimes I feel like it takes me away from reality to think about things that are so far fetched and so like mind bending. You know, even when they talk about the pyramids on earth, they're like, oh,

But it's not possible. The physics of this. I'm like, I just like to think they're here. They're here. And that's it. And I'm living this life and I'm doing my thing. And I'm trying to get by every single day and, you know, be a good wife, be a good mom, be a good daughter, be a good all these things. And yet there's this like existential fear and crisis that I'm experiencing from like the external influence and the external information that comes in about things like this.

Yeah. I mean, look, a lot of people are busy. A lot of people can't break down, you know, all these different aspects of politics and, you know, ancient history and the rest of it. I mean, I think that's where reading books comes in. Yeah. You know, maybe it opens you up to like other things that are happening and, you

I don't know. Each your own. Like, it's not for everyone, I guess. Yeah. But, you know. One of the bigger things that Dan talked about that kind of hit me and was kind of shocking. Well, not kind of shocking. Very shocking. Was when he was talking about that controversy in South America where there's this archaeologist down there. And...

He's doing work. People start reporting him as like some sort of CIA plant in like a government that's, you know, very volatile. And, you know, it's putting his life in danger over archaeology.

Like, what? I mean, look, I get it. You're passionate in your world. But, like, why would you put someone's life at risk? Well, yeah, I mean, what gets me is that, like, he's seeking the truth. He's not seeking misinformation. He's not seeking to, like, intentionally...

skew mindsets, opinions, preferences one way or another. He's, he's seeking the truth. And, um, you know, the thought that someone who is truly trying to better humankind and, and the knowledge that we, that we, um, possess could be risking their life to do so. Like,

That feels really sad and scary. That being said, it's been part of human history for a long time. Anyone who challenges the status quo is always at risk. And Dan just seems to be someone who is like,

It's worth it. You know, he's one of the few, he's a trailblazer and we should be really grateful for people like this. I mean, as specific an individual as he is, his kind is really important to the future of our kind. You know,

you know, and for people that like us, like those who listen to Joe Rogan, who genuinely just seek the truth and are not looking for a one sided story who want all the information, who want the truth about everything, like the truth seekers out there, you know, we were with you in solidarity, I guess, because, um,

It feels really hard to hear about people who are genuinely just looking for information, factual information, scientific evidence, and they're being told that they're doing something wrong. Yeah. Yeah. What about the cocaine and mummies? Yeah, let's finish up with that. I mean, this was another one that was...

It was like 40 minutes of the podcast. Yeah. And it should be. Yeah. It should be. How did cocaine get in a fucking mummy? I mean, at first it made me laugh. You know, they talked about the fact that this had happened, that mummies were testing positive for cocaine. And then when they broke it down a little bit more, you started to like kind of see the different, obviously speculations, the different hypothesis of how this happened. Yeah. Leave what you want.

I'm sure there's a combination of things that led to this. It's still funny to think about. I mean, everyone likes to have a good time, including when they were alive, I guess. Yeah, but I mean, I liked what Dan said. Like, you know, contamination makes sense. But like, also, you have to ask yourself, who the fuck is doing cocaine over a mummy or even near a mummy?

Like the people like, is this a thing in the world of like archaeology? I don't even know. Is it an archaeologist that like, you know, delves into a mummy? Is it? Is it? No, it's not a doctor. But like who would who would be like sifting through mummy bones?

Like, what job is that? And why are those people doing cocaine? I just want to know, how are they doing this unsupervised? I mean, like, how could they be... You find a mummy. You probably work at a museum. Maybe. It's like, I don't know what it takes to do that. You're a historian, I guess. You're just like, let me just do one... Are historians doing cocaine? Just one bump. And then they do one bump and they spill it. And then they scrape up what they can. And then they put the mummy back. And then the next person is like, what?

They're talking about hair samples though. Like wouldn't it be in the hair then? Yeah. Is it floating on top of the hair? Can you wash the hair? Or is it like in the hair? I don't know. I don't know. I wish I could be there. I wish I could be a part of it because I want to know more. I know. I want to know how they justified declaring the mummies tested positive for cocaine. Yeah.

The last thing I want to hit on is like the Gobekli Tepe stuff, the Bimini Road. Like Dan talks about a lot of very ancient stuff that Joe is, you know, discussed many times. And it's like when we're talking about the timeline, I mean, I remember being in college in like 2005.

And, like, I didn't take archaeology courses, but I took history, the rest of it. And it's like, oh, yeah, it was, like, a little bit before the pyramids, we are in this place. Right? It's like, just a little bit before the pyramids, everyone was a caveman. And...

That's because they just didn't have an answer. And now with Go Back with Tepe, like 12, 13,000 years old or 12, I don't know what it is. You know, we know shit is way older. So where, you know, why are they not adjusting? Why is it, why are they so firm and held in, in, you know, their thinking that,

It's like, I don't think it helps archaeology. And it's certainly not creating trust in people if they just hold on to this narrative. It's like, yeah, yeah, you've got to hold your paradigm to exist. Your PhD is the rest of it. But also, you have to be flexible, right? I mean, I don't know.

I love what Dan's doing. I love his approach. I think it's really effective. I hope that he comes on Rogan again. He just covers it all. Ancient Mysteries, Lost Tech, Cocaine Mummies, of course. And, you know, I think it's great. So check this episode out. It was solid. And we'll talk to you guys next week. Love you all. Later.