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The future of electronic materials

2025/3/7
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@Russ Altman : 我关注的是电子材料的未来,特别是如何克服硅和铜在纳米尺度下遇到的局限性,以及人工智能在新型材料发现中的作用。 我们讨论了电子元件小型化带来的挑战,以及对更快、非易失性内存的需求,这些内存可以直接与CPU集成。 我询问了@Eric Pop 关于下一代材料的研究进展,以及如何克服铜在纳米尺度下的局限性。 最后,我们探讨了人工智能在发现和制造新材料中的潜力。 Eric Pop: 我主要研究的是芯片中所有材料的未来,包括硅、铜、内存和散热材料。 我们讨论了铜在纳米尺度下的局限性,以及五氧化二铌作为潜在替代材料的可能性。五氧化二铌的表面具有良好的导电性,即使其内部导电性不如铜,也能成为更好的导体。 我们还讨论了二维半导体材料(例如二硫化钼)作为硅的潜在替代品,以及它们在制造方面的挑战。 最后,我们探讨了人工智能在材料发现和制造中的作用,以及它如何帮助我们发现和制造性能更好的新型材料。

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This chapter sets the stage by discussing the limitations of current electronic materials like silicon and copper as we push the boundaries of miniaturization. It introduces the concept of universal memory, highlighting the need for faster, non-volatile memory integrated directly with the CPU to overcome performance bottlenecks.
  • Limitations of silicon and copper at the nanoscale
  • Need for universal memory (faster, non-volatile, and integrated with CPU)
  • Miniaturization challenges and bottlenecks

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We are on the cusp of a materials revolution – in electronics, health care, and avionics – says guest engineer-scientist Eric Pop. For instance, silicon and copper have served electronics admirably for decades, he says, but at the nanoscale, better materials will be needed. Atomically thin two-dimensional semiconductors (like molybdenum disulfide) and topological semimetals (like niobium phosphide) are two candidates, but with AI tools to design new materials, the future is going to be really interesting, Pop tells host Russ Altman on this episode of Stanford Engineering’s The Future of Everything podcast.

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(00:00:00) Introduction

Russ introduces guest Eric Pop, a professor of electrical engineering and materials science at Stanford University

(00:02:59) The Status of Electronics Today

The stability of silicon and copper and the challenges with miniaturization.

(00:06:25) Limits of Current Materials

How miniaturization has increased speed but also created new bottlenecks.

(00:10:29) Universal Memory

The need for faster, non-volatile memory that integrates directly with the CPU.

(00:14:57) The Search for Next-Gen Materials

Exploring better materials for chips, from silicon to copper alternatives.

(00:17:54) Challenges of Copper at Nanoscale

Issues with copper at the nanoscale and the potential of niobium phosphate.

(00:24:46) Two-Dimensional Semiconductors

The potential of carbon nanotubes and 2D materials as replacements for silicon.

(00:29:47) Nanoelectronics and Manufacturing

The shift to 2D materials and the challenges in scaling up production

(00:32:34) AI in Material Discovery

AI’s potential in discovering and manufacturing new materials.

(00:34:56) Conclusion

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