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Black Consciousness with Lewis Gordon

2024/11/19
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Ellie Anderson: 本期节目讨论了路易斯·戈登的《对黑人意识的恐惧》一书,探讨了黑人意识的形成、发展及其政治意义。戈登将黑人意识分为小写b黑人意识和大写B黑人意识,前者指对种族化身份的认知,后者指一种积极的政治意识,旨在挑战反黑社会中的矛盾。节目中还讨论了法农和杜波依斯关于黑人意识的观点,以及简·安娜·戈登提出的“潜在的双重意识”概念。 David Peña-Guzman: 节目中,两位主持人与路易斯·戈登就黑人意识、白人特权、跨种族认同等问题进行了深入探讨。戈登认为,白人特权概念存在局限性,关注权力结构而非个体道德更具建设性。他还从激进存在主义角度出发,探讨了跨种族认同的可能性,认为身份认同是通过行动和经验建构的。 Lewis Gordon: 戈登详细阐述了黑人意识的内涵,区分了小写b黑人意识和大写B黑人意识,并强调大写B黑人意识的解放性。他批评了“白人特权”概念的局限性,认为关注“许可”而非“特权”更具建设性。他还就跨种族认同问题表达了其激进存在主义的观点,认为身份认同是通过行动和经验建构的,不应预设本质。戈登还谈到了布鲁斯音乐的意义,认为它体现了成熟和对存在的责任感,并批评了嘻哈音乐中某些滑稽表演和对黑人身份的刻板印象。 Ellie Anderson: 本期节目讨论了路易斯·戈登的《对黑人意识的恐惧》一书,探讨了黑人意识的形成、发展及其政治意义。戈登将黑人意识分为小写b黑人意识和大写B黑人意识,前者指对种族化身份的认知,后者指一种积极的政治意识,旨在挑战反黑社会中的矛盾。节目中还讨论了法农和杜波依斯关于黑人意识的观点,以及简·安娜·戈登提出的“潜在的双重意识”概念。 David Peña-Guzman: 节目中,两位主持人与路易斯·戈登就黑人意识、白人特权、跨种族认同等问题进行了深入探讨。戈登认为,白人特权概念存在局限性,关注权力结构而非个体道德更具建设性。他还从激进存在主义角度出发,探讨了跨种族认同的可能性,认为身份认同是通过行动和经验建构的。 Lewis Gordon: 戈登详细阐述了黑人意识的内涵,区分了小写b黑人意识和大写B黑人意识,并强调大写B黑人意识的解放性。他批评了“白人特权”概念的局限性,认为关注“许可”而非“特权”更具建设性。他还就跨种族认同问题表达了其激进存在主义的观点,认为身份认同是通过行动和经验建构的,不应预设本质。戈登还谈到了布鲁斯音乐的意义,认为它体现了成熟和对存在的责任感,并批评了嘻哈音乐中某些滑稽表演和对黑人身份的刻板印象。

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Key Insights

What is the difference between lowercase b and uppercase B Black consciousness as described by Lewis Gordon?

Lowercase b Black consciousness is the initial awareness of one's condition as a racialized Black person under white supremacy or anti-Black racism. Uppercase B Black consciousness is a more explicit political consciousness that addresses the contradictions and mechanics of anti-Black societies, aiming for liberation and transformation.

How does Lewis Gordon's upbringing in Jamaica influence his understanding of Black consciousness?

Gordon's upbringing in Jamaica, which had just gained independence from the British Empire, exposed him to authority figures who were Black or brown, and he did not associate power with whiteness. His lowercase b Black consciousness developed only after moving to the U.S. and experiencing racial slurs and white supremacy.

What does Gordon mean by 'bad faith' in the context of racial identity?

Bad faith refers to a form of lying to oneself, particularly when individuals deny their past or lived experiences. In the context of racial identity, it can describe people who are in denial about their true self-identification or the cultural and social factors that shape their consciousness.

Why does Gordon criticize the concept of white privilege?

Gordon argues that the concept of white privilege can be counterproductive because it personalizes systemic issues and reinforces the idea of limited resources. He prefers to discuss 'license'—the exemption from accountability that some people have, which should be eliminated for a more just society.

How does Lewis Gordon view the case of Rachel Dolezal?

Gordon suggests that Dolezal can be considered as having uppercase B Black consciousness if her lived experiences and relationships align with a Black identity. He emphasizes the need to distinguish between critical good faith and bad faith in self-identification, opening the possibility that racial categories are evolving.

What is the significance of the blues in Gordon's critique of contemporary Black music?

The blues, according to Gordon, represents maturity and the project of becoming adults, where individuals take responsibility for their existence and often express this with irony. He criticizes the loss of this seriousness and depth in some contemporary genres like rap and hip-hop, which can be more focused on minstrelsy and entertainment.

What is the concept of 'potentiated double consciousness' and how does it differ from double consciousness?

Double consciousness refers to the negative images imposed on Black people by others, while potentiated double consciousness involves individuals claiming their agency and developing their own ways of seeing and understanding themselves, leading to a life-affirming and liberatory form of consciousness.

How does Gordon's view of race differ from the conventional understanding of it being exclusively African or African-descended?

Gordon's view of race is more inclusive, recognizing Black identities in various parts of the world, including Australasia, Southwest Asia, East Asia, and Eastern Europe. He argues that the modern concept of race has been shaped by historical and social contexts, and it can be constructed in diverse ways.

Why does Gordon argue against Black authenticity narratives?

Gordon argues that Black authenticity narratives often perpetuate stereotypes and can be used to control and limit Black expression. He believes that these narratives do not capture the complexity and nuance of Black identities and experiences, which can be diverse and evolving.

What is the role of creolization in Gordon's understanding of racial identity?

Creolization, as a concept from Caribbean thinkers like Édouard Glissant, emphasizes the transformation and blending of identities through contact. Gordon sees this as a counter to fixed racial categories, highlighting the possibility of porous and flexible racial identities that can evolve over time.

Chapters
This chapter explores Lewis Gordon's personal journey in developing Black consciousness, contrasting his experiences in Jamaica and the Bronx. It highlights the distinction between lowercase 'b' Black consciousness (recognition of racialization) and uppercase 'B' Black consciousness (explicit political consciousness). The parallels between Gordon's and Frantz Fanon's experiences are also discussed.
  • Lewis Gordon's development of Black consciousness in the Bronx after moving from Jamaica
  • Distinction between lowercase and uppercase Black consciousness
  • Comparison with Frantz Fanon's experience of racial objectification

Shownotes Transcript

Do you need black skin to be Black? How might concepts such as white privilege be limiting our understanding of how racism works? In Episode 117 of Overthink, Ellie and David chat with philosopher Lewis Gordon about his book, Fear of Black Consciousness. They talk through the history of anti-Black racism, the existential concept of bad faith, why Rachel Dolezal might have Black consciousness, and Frantz Fanon’s experience of being called a racial slur by a white child on a train. From the American Blues to the Caribbean movement of Negritude, this episode is full of insight into Black liberation and White centeredness. In the bonus, Ellie and David go into greater detail about how Black liberation is connected to love.**Check out the episode's extended cut **here!)Works Discussed: Steve Bantu Biko, I Write What I LikeW.E.B. Du Bois, The Souls of Black FolkFrantz Fanon, Black Skin, White MasksEdouard Glissant, Introduction à une Poétique du DiversJane Anna Gordon, “Legitimacy from Modernity’s Underside: Potentiated Double Consciousness”Lewis Gordon, Bad Faith and Antiblack racismLewis Gordon, Fear of Black ConsciousnessRebecca Tuvel, “In Defense of Transracialism”

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