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All right, great show today with my good buddy Mark Diana. You probably know his Golf Bets 101 on Twitter. Mark is like one of the main guys that I talk through all of my nonsense with on a week-to-week basis. So I thought this was the perfect week to bring him on because I know that he's crazy enough, like me, to spend time dissecting the John Deere Classic. If you're taking the week off,

I respect the hell out of that. I wish I had that power. I'm sick too. Like I have a really bad cold and I still couldn't help myself from betting this tournament. We do talk some British open at the end too. So even if John Deere isn't your jam, we squeeze a little British stuff at the end. Well,

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Alright, I have my good pal Mark Diana on the line. GolfBets101 on Twitter, writer for WaggleDuff and The Breakdown. How's it going, my friend? Good, how are you? It's going pretty good. I told you before we started recording, I'm battling a little bit of a cold, but I'm doing alright, man. I think...

The only thing that's a little bit of a bummer is we don't have an awesome tournament to talk about this week, but I figure me and you spend so much time dissecting this stuff in our Twitter DMS anyway, and you,

you know pretty much every thought that goes through the course of my head in terms of deciding who to bet each week that we might as well use a kind of a crapshoot of a tournament this week to let some more people into how our minds work and how crazy we are about this stuff.

Yeah, definitely. I'm already starting to look at the odds boards this week and it's just going to be absolute lunacy when you start trying to find any value on golfers. So I'm excited to talk about it. I know it's going to be interesting for the listeners to hear some of the names that they probably are not going to hear again for the next two or three months. Yeah, I've got some ugly guys for sure. Well, yeah, I mean, I don't really have much to say about the Rocket Mortgage. I know that you were, you probably didn't watch a ton 4th of July weekend.

Nope. Okay. Yeah, I was out and about Friday, Saturday. Okay. All right. Cool. Sunday too even. Okay, cool. I got nothing to rehash about the Rocket Bargain. Let's jump right into the John Deere. This is a par 71. It's playing 7,268 yards. It's a DA Wybrick design. Bank grass greens and fairways, 6,000 square foot greens.

We did not have this tournament last year due to the pandemic, but in 2019, Dylan Fratelli won at 100-1. I believe in 2018, Michael Kim won at 300-1. In 2017, Aline Bryson won. And then 2016, you have Ryan Moore. 2015, Jordan Spieth. And then going down, you get some Brian Harmon in there, a little more Spieth, some Zach Johnson, and a lot of Steve Stricker.

I've already broken down the course in-depthly on my Sunday podcast, so I'll just kick it to you, man. What are you kind of looking for this week? Yes, I normally start my process every single week by looking at what the last five winners did on the course in order to win. With this week, there isn't a lot of similarities among the five guys you mentioned. The only thing that really sticks out is that they all had spike putting weeks, which is pretty normal for a PGA Tour winner. They all had spike putting weeks.

they all were pretty much in the top 20 of TD Green for the week that they won. And they all scored in all the holes. It wasn't just a par five birdie fest. It wasn't just a par four scoring average type of thing. There's 25% scoring on the par threes, 31% on the par fours, and almost 58% if you include the Eagles on the par fives. So all these holes are gettable. The par fives, like I mentioned, you can get Eagles on them. So

You really need to score on those. If you're getting par, you might be dropping from two strokes to the field to some golfers. So I'm really looking at a lot of the scoring stats, your birdie or better percentages, greens regulation gain.

I'm going to be looking at mostly the kind of stats that give golfers an opportunity to score. Just get in the fairway, get on the green, and don't three-pot. I like it. Yeah, I'm looking a lot at wedge play. I'm looking a lot at guys who play well in easy scoring conditions because I do think that...

A tournament like this, it's just a different vibe. It asks something different of a player. And I think that there are certain players that do tend to prefer weeks like this. And there are certain players that do tend to prefer the hard weeks. There are certain guys that are just better.

their skillset is better suited for a course where kind of it's more important to grind out pars. Right. And there are certain players where their skillset is better suited for a course where it's really gettable and you have to shoot a really, really low number. Like this course is set up a lot more like a corn fairy tour course than it is, you know,

I don't know. Even a regular PGA tour event. That's just kind of on the harder side, like an Arnold Palmer invitational or a Honda classic. So I'm with you, dude. I think that scoring opportunities, wedges, these fairways are really wide to hit, uh, are really easy to hit. They're really wide, 41 yards, 41 yards wide on average, 72% driving accuracy here. A lot of the players that have won here really low in driving accuracy that week. So, uh,

you can kind of just bomb away, but it's not necessarily... When people think bomb away, they immediately think like bombers. That's not even really what I'm talking about. I'm talking about like there are a lot of guys like a Spieth, a Zach Johnson, a Steve Stricker who...

don't tend to gain a ton of strokes off the tee just because they're not very long by any means. And they're not like super accurate by many, any means either. Spieth is like literally the perfect example, but this is a course where you can completely get away with that here. And it really just comes down to your approaches, your wedges and your putting. So I'm really looking at

wedge play like you mentioned scoring opportunities spike putting weeks but at the end of the day dude like we joke a lot about how much of it is a crapshoot but I think there really is some merit to that right like for telly one here in 2019 at 100 to 1 his form coming in was 59th miscut 46 46 so

The year before, Michael Kim won at 300-1. His form coming in was miscut, miscut, miscut. So it's typically either like a complete random at triple digits or like Steve Strucker at 5-1. Does that kind of factor into how you're trying to shape your card this week? Do you think that this is a week where you're more inclined to throw a lot of darts closer to the bottom of the board or structure it kind of like a regular tournament?

I think I'm structuring it similar to a regular tournament just because a lot of the guys who normally would be like 150 to one are now like 65 to one. So like I would normally be throwing darts at those guys, but now they're not even long shots. They're like kind of just in that middle tier range. If you get like into like the deep into the hundreds and the 200s, you're starting to get some guys who haven't really sniffed a lot of contention. So I'm probably going to structure it where I'm going like

one or two guys under 40 to 50, then like two or two guys, maybe like between 50 and 75. And then one guy closer to a hundred, which is kind of my traditional card structure. Yeah. I'm kind of the same way. Like I, there's, I haven't fully decided what I'm going to do yet, but,

I'm kind of leaning that way. I've never somebody that like, I'm just going to throw a bunch of like $5 bets on all these guys over a hundred to one, even though this is a tournament where it kind of makes more, I think you can make an easier argument to do that this week. I did this whole thing on my podcast yesterday about the merits of betting heavy favorites at tournaments like this versus majors and where I kind of made the case for,

tournaments like the majors are the tournaments where you really want to pay up for guys at the top of the board because so much of the field is kind of out of it before they tee up. Whereas this is one of like the three or four weeks all year where Richie Wierenski and Mark Hubbard are like, okay, game on, like I can win this thing. And there's just not that many tournaments like that. But anyway, I think there's some interesting options at the top of the board. So let's talk about the top of the board. I'm going to give you the 30,

and below guys mark on bet us all odds are courtesy of bet us use promo code pick the pup for 125 bonus on your first deposit but here we go we've got daniel burger at nine to one

Sung J.M. at 14-1. Brian Harmon at 16-1. Russell Henley at 22-1. Shout out, BetUS. I believe that that is the best number that you can find on Russell Henley. I've seen like 16-1s on Russell Henley out there. So 22-1 on Russell Henley, BetUS. Check it out. Kevin Strillman, 25-1. Cameron Davis, 28-1. Those are our players, Mark, that are below 30-1 this week. Are you betting any of them?

I already bet Kevin Streelman. I got him at 28-1. But I wouldn't be surprised if any of those guys were to go on to win this week. I just kind of like the number on Streelman. I saw like an 18 on him and like a 19 on him. So I saw the 28, kind of jumped right on it. He's been playing good golf in recent weeks. And he's one of those guys where it's like when he's at an event like this, like he's never going to be a favorite.

But now this week, he's up there for a reason. He's one of the best guys in this field. So this is the type of event where he can go win. He's not always going to be live between every single event he tees it up at. And this is one of the ones that he is. So I figured the guy in really good form, he stays in the fairways, he hits greens. He was kind of checking off all the boxes. I'm pretty interested in Sung Jae Im. I'm not going to bet twice up at the top of this board. But Sung Jae Im and DraftKings is definitely a guy that I would be looking towards.

And Berger at 9-1, you can make the argument that's probably a better bet than if you bet Bryson at 7-1 last week. So that's what I'm thinking up top. I took Strelman. Other than that, the other guys probably got a lot of exposure to draft kings-wise, but not in a lot of betting formats.

Interesting. Okay. I like Strelman. I think him and Harmon are both good options too. I already mentioned that Henley was the guy that I was leaning towards the most, but I think all of them are pretty good options. The thing is too, is it's like, if you remove the name from these guys and just look at their statistical profile or what they have done this year, like...

Strelman went 26 at Wells Fargo, 8th at the PGA, low-key contended there, 20th at Colonial, 13th at the Memorial, 15th at the US Open, all in a row. He's had a way better season than Dustin Johnson.

And same with Harmon. Like Harmon finished third at the players this year and 12th at the masters this year. And you look at the numbers and it's just green everywhere. So someone has to be at these odds and their only options are like, all right, we're just going to take the players that are playing the best golf right now. It's either these guys are making like Steve Stricker and Zach Johnson, 20 to one. Like, what are their other options? You know what I mean? So I think it comes down to how you want to structure your card because I

Like I said, I made the argument yesterday, and I talked about it last week too, about why I was having such a hard time understanding the Bryson thing. It's like, this is a tournament where you want to throw more darts. So I...

It's not that I don't think that this is like a decent group of guys. I'm by no means above betting any of these guys at these numbers. I just found myself way more drawn to this kind of 30 to 80 range where I think there are a lot of guys that I could see myself end up, see myself getting there with. I want to touch on Sungjae too because I really like Sungjae. What drew you to Sungjae? Because he's a guy that I'm like,

I'm all over him on DraftKings this week. Like, obviously, I know it's not a great number on him at 14 to 1, but he's finally doing everything that I kind of, like, wanted to see all season. Like, he gained strokes in all four major categories last week. The irons are, like, fully back. He's gaining off the tee again. The short game and putter never really left. He makes a ton of birdies, and, like...

If Sungjae is $300 more expensive than Brian Harmon, but he's coming in at like 11 or 12% and Harmon's coming in at like 18 or 20%, give me Sungjae 10 times out of 10.

Yeah, I look a lot at correlated courses or courses that play similar, at least in terms of whether the leaderboard is similar or the actual course itself is similar. So I looked at the Shriners, because that's a course that people get really low at. TPC Twin Cities 3M, which is going to be in a couple weeks, actually. And Silverado. And Sungjae's got a 15th and a 13th at Shriners, a 15th at Twin Cities, a 4th at Silverado. So he's played all those easier scorefest courses pretty well.

like you mentioned, his approach has been getting better. That's been kind of his issue this whole, this whole season. His putter has been electric. He's been rolling putts in from everywhere. Um,

Um, so one of the other things I use is the wrong report on fantasy national. Maybe sort by two to green, his T to green. I think he's second over the last four rounds, but it's trending all the way from like no green to dark green. And that's kind of what I was looking for. At least if you're going to pay up, like somebody who's going to at least like, if you, if you bet somebody here, like they better not miss the cut.

That is just too hard of a slap in the face to bet somebody 15-1 at this field and then miss the cut. I felt like Sungjae was just trending in the right direction. I feel like people have fallen off of him. I remember when TJ4 first went back to Florida, there was the whole Sungjae in Florida, Sungjae in Florida. Even Hawaii, too. People bet him in Hawaii. I know exactly what you mean.

Yeah, so that's what kind of led me to him. I didn't bet him. I just, the 15 that I was seeing on him, I went just to double that number basically with Shielman, who I figured had probably the same amount, like probability-wise, of winning the event. But I do like Sungjae a lot. I'm probably going to live to regret not betting him, but...

Yeah, I'm with you. All right. So Strelman for you, both like Sungjae and DraftKings, leaning towards Henley for me at 22 to one, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. Let's get into that 30 to 60 range. So a lot of guys here, man. Like I'm seeing Seamus Power at 30 to one, Siwoo Kim at 33 to one, Alex Noren at 35, Kevin Na at 35, Troy Merritt at 40.

Matt McNeely at 45 Patton Kazire, 45 Doug Gimm at 50 Zach Johnson at 50 Lucas Glover at 50 doc Redmond at 50, uh, Ryan Moore at 50 Kyle Stanley at 55 Aaron wise at 55. I guess let's stop there, but these numbers shout out to bet us, but these numbers are also can be all over the place, Mark. So feel free to, um, throw out any numbers that you've gotten. I've are some of these guys I've been shopping around with myself and

Is there anyone in this range that you've pulled the trigger with yet? The only other person I've been on besides Kevin Streeleman is Kevin Noss. I'm just going to go with the full Kevin week this week. You're doing it, huh?

Part of it was, like I mentioned earlier, I was looking at some of those other courses and TPC Summerlin, which was where Shriners has played, is one of the ones that came up. Kevin Nas won there twice. That kind of sold it for me, but he's won five times on the PGA Tour and four of those five wins he got to at least 19-under. If we're going to talk about a guy going low, those four ones I mentioned, he was 19-under, 23-under, 21-under, 23-under. He can get to that spot and I

I think that's the first checkbox when you're betting an outright guy is can they realistically get to that number? You have to kind of envision where the tournament's going to head and what it's going to look like. And I think Kevin Knott can get there. So that 45 to one is what I saw on him, and I ended up taking that. That's the only other guy I've bet in this range so far.

I was about to say something snarky about the fact that he just lost four strokes on approach in his last start. And then I remembered that that's what Cameron Davis did too, the week before that in the start, that before he won the rocket mortgage. So you're right about Kevin. Now you can probably make an argument that he is, you know, just in terms of pedigree, one of the best players in this range. I just never able to get there with him. I have a lot of guys circled here and I,

And especially if I don't end up getting there with Henley, like there are a lot of guys and I want you to help me kind of talk me through this one because there are a lot of guys that I'm kind of trying to figure out between. So I've, I bet doc Redmond at 66 to one is one of like the two bets that I've made so far. I'm want to talk about him now because I'm seeing him 50 on bet us. I found a 66 to one on him.

I kind of like doc coming off a miscut. I know that he's still probably a little bit overpriced. I think we're going to get a nice ownership break on him because everyone was on him last week. Looking at the early ownership stuff on fantasy national, he's like 10, 11%. He was double that last week and only $300 cheaper and a way better field that will probably go up a little bit. If like Mayo talks about him and stuff, but you know, it's still early, but I think that's manageable. Um,

He was fine last week. Like, I don't get how things shift so much on these guys. Like, you look at the difference in odds between the guys that played last week and the guys that played this weekend based on the field strength. Like, it's so all over the place. Like, a guy like Patton Gazire, for example, I bet Patton Gazire at 125 to 1 last week.

Patton Keziah finished 25th and now Patton Keziah is 45 to one in this field. So Doc Redman was 50 to one last week. And now he's the exact same odds in this field. And he missed the cut by like a stroke and lost two strokes putting and no one's talking about it.

I don't get it at all. The off the tee actually got better. It was his best off the tee week in a month and the approach got slightly worse, but like not concerningly. So he just had his first bad putting week in like six weeks. That's going to happen. I like him on this course. He can spray it a little off the tee, get silly hot with the irons, makes a ton of birdies. All of his best finishes are on some really easy courses. Let me give you the top tens in his career, Mark.

the courses that he is, that Doc Redman has finished top 10 at. Congaree, Detroit Golf Club, Silverado, Sedgefield, Port Royal in Bermuda, and TPC Craig's Ranch.

I think those are the six easiest courses on tour outside of TBC tier run, right? I was going to say, like, Doc Redman was like the swing season superhero of DFS players. He was like a locked in full lineup for like six weeks straight in like October and November. So like, if you're looking at like those style of events and this style of field, I don't know how you don't go to Doc Redman at 66. I have him circled also. I haven't bet on him yet.

I'm very likely to get there with him because I don't, I understand he's been playing great, but how does he double the odds of Sheamus' power? How is Sheamus' power 30 to 1 in this field and Doc Edmunds 66 or whatever? Some of these numbers, like you mentioned, I just,

I can't envision them. Like I had Harry Higgs last week at 300 to one this week. He's 150 to one and he missed the cut last week. Yeah. Half the odds after missing the cut. I'll give you another one. I bet Munoz at 175 to one last week. He finished 67th and shot a final round 76 on the easiest day of the tournament. He's 60 to one this week.

Yeah, I was on Lucas Glover last week at 90 to one. I think he's around like 45 right now. He's a guy who I'd also probably be interested in, but I like the Doc Redman play. I have a soft spot for him. So I was one of those guys who played him for like six weeks straight in the spring season. So I'm never against Doc Redman. I think I bet him at Palmetto actually. He's just kind of been like hanging around. He's very popular at Palmetto, yeah. He's kind of just been like hanging around. And I feel like that's something that I've noticed with a lot of the winners this year on the PGA tour. Like,

It sounds stupid, but if they're playing good, just play them. If they're going to be at the top of the leaderboard on a Sunday, they're getting the experience they need to get to go and finally win one of these events. Sam Burns, for example, he should have won the Genesis. Max Homish never should have gotten to a playoff against Tony Finau. But Sam Burns got all this final group experience, and then he almost won back-to-back weeks. So a lot of these guys, once they get on the tour, and once they start to actually contend a little bit,

The next time they're in that position, their hands aren't shaking as much, they're not as nervous. I think Doc Redmond is one of those guys, if he just putts, everything else in this game is there for the most part. So I can't argue with him at 66. I'm going to give you a couple other guys that I have my eye on, and I want you to tell me if any of them pop out to you, because I need help figuring out who to bet. Doug Gimm, Kazire, McNeely,

Glover, Kyle Stanley, and Aaron Wise of that group, assuming that all of their odds are relatively in the same ballpark, like somewhere in between 45 and 65, give or take. Who is your favorite of that group? Because I need help, man.

I really like Lucas Glover, and I'm not going to bet him this week just because I bet him last week. I'm not going to keep going back to the well of him. But one of the reasons why I liked him so much last week was because three of his top five single best rounds in putting have come this season. So you're talking about like a spike putter this season. He's just finding these rounds where he just like gains four strokes putting. And that's probably what you're going to need this week.

I like Doug Gims because he's a fairway finder. He's a greens finder, but he just can't putt. And for this event, I don't know if the winner is going to win it gaining three strokes, four strokes putting, and that might be the ceiling for Doug Gims right now. Aaron Wise, tee to green, awesome. Again, bad putter, but he can gain putting. He has. He's not a great putter.

but he is somewhat volatile. Like he has gained three, four strokes in a single round in the past. So he's a guy who I had circled the, the putting issue is what's keeping me off of him currently. Um,

But Glover, I definitely could get behind. One guy I don't know if you mentioned, but I was looking into is Charles Howell. And I found him around 6'6". I'm pretty sure you can probably find better numbers on him. But one of the things that I really liked about him is he's played this course a bunch. He's played it 10 times, made nine cuts, six top 25s here. TPC Twin Cities, which is one of the courses I was looking at because it's that type of scoring event. He's got a third and a 23rd.

Talk about TPC Summerlin. He's played there 18 times with nine top 25s. So if he plays those crappy field games,

low scoring events pretty well i don't know if i would get to him outright but he's definitely somebody i'm looking at like top 20 top 30 i feel like that's my issue i keep getting to these guys and i keep finding like reasons not to bet them oh i'll just bet him top 30 but this week like one of these guys is gonna end up winning like somebody has to win this event so no matter how many red flags you find the guy who wins this event probably had a

Oh, a hundred percent. And that's why I'm kind of having a hard time narrowing it down. I like what you said about Glover. The thing with Gim, why Gim stood out to me and I'm not like a, I don't play Doug Gim a ton.

But I actually think the putting is getting a little bit better. Like he gained 0.8 strokes putting last week and he's been a lot better than you would think coming off a good putting week. Like he does tend to follow up a good one with another good one and then he'll have like six bad ones in a row. But I think it's an area of his game that he's like very cognizant of and working really hard on. He's talked about it before in interviews. He actually lost strokes on approach last week.

I couldn't care less. He lost strokes and approached three other times this season. And in the following start, he went plus 3.9 plus four and plus 2.6. I think the irons are fine. They're the least of my concern. His two best finishes of the year actually came the week after he lost strokes on approach. So he lost 2.6 at the Sony and

came back the next week and finished fifth at the Amex, lost at the Byron Nelson, came back the next week and finished 14th at Colonial. Really good wedge player, makes a ton of birdies. That's kind of my spin zone on Gim. I still feel like in this field, like 50 to one still feels pretty short on him. I saw 66. That's a little bit better. So maybe...

That's kind of similar to what we mentioned earlier with betting on talent sometimes. And Doug Gim is one of those guys where the talent is there. And in this type of event, if you just bet on talent and hope for four days it shows itself, you can win this event. I probably won't get to Gim. Probably because I bet him twice this year. I think he's missed a couple of times. So if you're going to bet him for your sake, I'll stay off of him. But this range...

I keep circling guys and then crossing them off. What about Kyle Stanley? Yeah, what about Kyle Stanley? I have him circled. I was just looking at him, and I think I see him around 55, but he's a guy who's – talk about trending and a guy who's just been hanging around. I feel like for six weeks now, he's just kind of been there. He's just going to keep being there. Eventually, that might turn into something. He's the guy who I'm probably going to end up getting to.

I think so, too. So he's played really well here. Five top 25s in 10 appearances, including a runner-up in 2011. He's won in Phoenix before. I don't think that's, like, a terrible comp. He...

His, um, he's made six cuts in a row, 12 of 16 cuts this season. That's pretty damn good. Gained off the T and eight straight starts, uh, gained on approach in seven of eight, including some really high numbers. Like he can get scorching hot with the irons. He's just a bad putter. You know, there's no two ways about it. He sucks putting, but you know, when he does gain, uh,

tends to gain a fair amount like he gained plus 4.3 um the last time that he gained putting that's probably good enough to win really good with his wedges too like he's the only player in this field outside of kj choy i have no idea how kj choy got in there that is top 10 in proximity from 125 to 150 and proximity from 150 to 175 over his last 36 rounds so great short iron player

I think I'm probably willing to take a chance on the putter in this spot. I think the upside is there. So I like Kyle Stanley quite a bit. Let's open it up. Now all the guys going up to like a hundred, like we'll throw like all these guys like Johnny Vegas and Hank Labiotta and Munoz and Bo Hosler I've seen getting some interest and Scott Stallings and CT Pan. I'm not going to list all these guys out, but

you can throw out anyone farther down the board now. So this event reminds me very much like those alternate field events that you get in Corrales and you get like in Puerto Rico. And I think every one of those events, I bet Will Gordon and Johnny Vegas are

I don't know if I'll get there with Will Gordon this week, but Johnny Vegas is a guy that I could definitely get there with. You don't necessarily need to bomb it on this course, but it never hurts to gain strokes, ball strike, and he's going to bang it down the wide open fairways, give himself short little wedge approaches in. It's just going to come down to Kenny Putt.

But he's also contended against this style of field at those alternate events. I keep betting that those events keeps finishing like T5. So Johnny Vegas is a guy I definitely, I can see him getting really popular, but that's not going to necessarily scare me off of him. The other guy who I was, who I had circled is Scott Stallings. I feel like he's another guy, Kyle Stanley type of guy where he's kind of just been playing really good golf quietly and no one's really noticed him.

I don't know what you think about him, but Stanley and Vegas are probably the two guys that I would most likely get to in that range. Okay, so me too. I talked Vegas up in my – I bet Vegas. I bet Vegas at 70. The only two guys that I bet is Redman at Vegas. But, yeah, I talked him up in my podcast yesterday. I wrote him up in my Roto Baller article. I know that he's picking up a little bit of steam there.

not that I'm some market mover by any means, but I know our buddy John is on him as well. He's definitely got way more pull than me. So I think he will end up being pretty popular this week. And I think for good reason, like he's the number one off the tee player in this field, six starts in a row where he's gained over two strokes off the tee on the field. Not that I think that will matter a ton this week, but it's really the irons that I'm in more intrigued by. Like

two weeks in a row now where he's gained over three and a half strokes on approach fourth and opportunities game makes a ton of birdies all of his best results both this season and historically come on super easy courses where he can just kind of go bombs away like he won the canadian open twice once at 12 under and once at 21 under easy course won the amex at 27 under that's an easy course second at

Palm Meadow this year. That's an easy course. Second at Puerto Rico in February. That's an easy course. Finished third here in 2017. I think you just kind of run into the same concern with Stanley and Wise and all of these guys that I seem to have interest in this week where he's not a great putter. 1.5 strokes putting is the best he has done all year. I'll probably want to shoot myself by Friday with like a Kyle Stanley, Aaron Wise, Johnny Vegas card, but

I think all of these guys can do it here. And despite this being a course where you got to make a lot of putts, I still think that weeks like this, like it makes the most sense to bet these guys because their ball striking now goes from above average in a good field to like best in the field here where we could be looking at like seven or eight strokes, gain ball striking. And there maybe isn't as much pressure on their putting as you would think, if that makes any sense.

Yeah, and that's why, like, for me, I kept going back to Scott Stallings, because five of his last seven, he's gained ball striking, and five of his last seven, he's gained putting. And the one week he gained putting, I think it was Byron Nelson, he gained, like, eight or nine strokes putting. So he's a guy who has, like, a bit of a ceiling. And Vegas, it's just, I bet him a couple times, like I mentioned, so I kind of get fatigued with some of these guys, I feel like. We both bet him at Palmetto.

Yeah, I've been at Palmetto. I've been at Corrales. I've been at Puerto Rico. I feel like I shouldn't be betting Johnny Vegas four to five times a season. I hope I don't get there. That might be an issue in itself. But that's why I'm more drawn towards the Scott Stallings. I feel like I need to have somebody on my card.

for sure who's at least putted well recently otherwise I'm gonna be like like you said pulling my hair out watching I don't want to be sweating a four foot hard putt on shot tracker so I know I'm never gonna get to watch Johnny Vegas on PGA Tour coverage

Well, first of all, I'm with you on Stallings. I just ended up talking more about Vegas, but I'm with you on Stallings. I wish I could get better than 80-1 is the best number that I saw on him, but I guess that's kind of just how it goes this week. He's played here a bunch, and he's either missed the cut or finished in the top 25. He's coming off a week where he gained five strokes on approach. That's his best approach week, I believe, of the entire season. The off the tee is getting better.

Like you mentioned, he can get really hot with the putter. I feel like there's a really good spot for him. Like eighth and strokes gain approach 29th and birdies are better game. That's kind of the formula here. His putting is a little bit better. As you mentioned, the short game is really his weak spot and I'm not really concerned about that here, but he's fine off the tee. It's really the irons and the putting that he's best at. So I definitely like, I'm going to be playing some Scott Stallings. I, I may end up betting him too at 80 to one, uh,

The other guys in this range that like I had circled, the only other guy that's like unanimously below a hundred to one in both spots is, I don't know if I could be any more angry at a golfer in my life than I was at Chez Revy last week. And I could still see myself going back.

Yeah, I have Pat Perez circled also. Interesting. I don't know if you looked at him at all, but he also did time strokes putting last week. I don't know if that's going to... That might steer me away because I don't know if he's going to hit that two weeks in a row. That's probably what he's going to need to get to again this week. Last time I got 80-85. He had my interest. Chez, I don't think I've bet Chez really outright ever, but I think I've bet him top 40 a good amount of times. I feel like this might end up being a week where I get...

a bigger card top 40 than I normally do. I think there's gonna be good value betting on some of these guys to finish top 40. It's like my, my whole issue with my outright card is always going to be like, at the end of the day, can this person win? Like, do I honestly think that this person's going to go on to win this tournament? And that's, what's holding me up with a lot of the guys in this range. Like that's why I mentioned like Charles Howell earlier, like it's 42 year old Charles Howell going to go win this event this week.

I don't know, but maybe shoot 1,700 and finish T12. I think that's definitely possible. So I feel like Chez... I mean, Chez won a couple years ago on Travelers. He can win. He just also, like you mentioned, he's so volatile. Maybe he misses the cut at an event where it's going to be harder to miss the cut than it is to make the cut. Yeah, I mean...

It's tough with jazz. Like he gained on approach again. He misses a lot of cuts to your point. And yeah,

He, despite like the reason why his finishes haven't even been very high, despite being so good on approaches, he has not been putting well whatsoever. Really good short game. Not that I think that will matter a ton this week, but he's just a bad putter. You know, he can do it like 2.1 at the PGA 3.2 at the Wells Fargo, but it's really just the iron play and the wedges that

that I'm so interested in. He's fourth in proximity from 125 to 156th in proximity from 150 to 175. It's really just like, I have such a hard time ignoring the irons in the wedge play. He loves a birdie fest. He's won the travelers before. I think that's a pretty good comp. Second and fourth in Phoenix. I don't hate that either. He's played well here too, finished top five here. So you're right. I'm probably closer to a situation where I just use him in DraftKings. I think

you know, obviously all my draft Kings picks as of now, they're kind of all, I want to see how the ownership shakes out, but I don't, I figure that he burned a lot of people last week as well. So I think I'm probably, probably you're right. Not going to get there in an outright. I probably would rather bet Scott Stallings. Scott Stallings hasn't won in like seven years, but he's also won three times on the PGA tour. So he can do it.

Okay, let's kick it down to the 100 plus and above and kind of open it up to all these guys. 100 plus, is there anyone that you're betting outright wise in this range or even just guys that you have targeted for finishing position, DFS or whatever?

There's nobody that I've bet on in this range outright yet. There's a couple of guys who I have circled that I have to kind of like really go in deep dive with and try to find as little red flags as possible. Keith Mitchell is a guy, he misses a lot of cuts, which is the reason why I'm a little bit hesitant with him, but he's also won. Like, so he's got the volatility to go out and win. And he was pretty popular back in Florida at a couple of events. He showed pretty well at the Wells Fargo.

So he's got the upside to be there on a Sunday. He's also a decent putter. He can smash it down the fairways. I just don't know, like I mentioned earlier, can he get to 23 under? That's where I'm held up with. Like, I know he could win because he has won. It's just at that number that I think he can win.

um so he's a guy who i've at least considered matthew neesmith is another guy i've looked at if i bet on him i take him off my blacklist because i blacklisted him a couple of months ago just because i was betting him too too frequently but he's a guy who hits fairways he hits greens he's one of the best approach players on tour he always plays well at the rsm the rsm was a course that i actually looked at so i don't know if that's just a little bit of of noise um and then if you're looking at like a course history guy who's a little bit sneakier

250 to one Scott Brown. I don't know if you've looked at him at all, but he's played this course a couple of times and he's, so he's played here eight times and he's finished seven 22nd, fifth missed cut 16th, 25th, 12th missed cut. So he's played here eight times with six top 25s. Interesting. I mean, he made it, he made a hole in one last week.

I mean, this might be the only course on the PGA Tour that he plays well at, but hey, if he plays well again this week, I might bet him on top 40 or something like that. I have a couple of gems in here that I found that I actually have really talked myself into. I don't think that I'm going to bet any of these guys outright because this may, as odd as it sounds, may be a week where...

All of the guys that I bet out, right? Like I'd bet five guys in between 50 and 80 this week. That's just kind of how it's shaking out for me with Redmond, Vegas, wise Stanley and like Stallings, maybe GIM too. So these guys are more so for top 40 and DFS, but,

I'm going to play Nick Taylor in the top 40 market, and I'm going to play him in DFS too at $7,200. I think Taylor's a really good play. The ball striking is trending in the right direction. He gained 1.2 strokes at the Rocket Mortgage. I almost played him last week too. He's kind of been on my radar a little bit. For some weird reason, Nick Taylor's just kind of been –

He's just been popping up for me and random stuff. Um, but he gained 2.4 strokes on approach to that's his best iron week since the Wells Fargo, he lost two and a half strokes putting, but he's a pretty good putter. Like the last time he lost over 2.5 strokes putting, um,

it was all the way back in January and he came back the next week and gained 4.4 Riviera. He makes a ton of cuts. He wins golf tournaments. Um, like he won the pebble beach in 2020, he took down Phil that week. And he's also won the Sanderson farms too. Um, he is also the number one player in this field over his last 36 rounds in proximity from one 25 to 150 yards. So I think Nick Taylor's like a really, really good play. I'm

I'm going to be all over him in DFS in the top 40 market. And then the other guy, there's two other guys that I have circled, Adam Shank and Camille Vajegas. And I think Vajegas, he's 270 to one. Vajegas is probably the lowest I would go in DFS at $6,600. But I think those guys are solid plays. Yeah. I looked into Adam Shank earlier today and I forget what it was that

made me jump off him, but I looked into him. He was kind of popping up. Maybe it was in one of my, one of the models I ran, he popped up, but somebody else who popped up in one of my, I did a pretty good emphasis on like fairways and good drive and stuff. So it doesn't surprise me, but Bryce Garnett, he's around that a hundred to one range. Also, he's also a really good putter. So if I'm going to say that, you know, hit fairways, hit greens and pot. Well, as like, as like a blueprint for this week, I guess Bryce Garnett fits that mold pretty well. Um,

He's also been playing pretty well over his last 42 rounds, 0.76 per round total, gaining almost half a stroke per round putting. So, I mean, it's just if he can stay neutral ball striking, maybe he's a guy that maybe I'll get to him actually outright even as my deep bomb. So I'll probably bet him instead of Matthew Neesmith then.

I like that. I mean, I like him more than Neesmith. I looked at both. The reason why, and I would definitely prefer Garnett. I like Garnett, by the way. I'm going to probably use him in DFS a little bit too. But the reason I like Neesmith is... Or sorry, not Neesmith. I don't like Neesmith. The reason I like Shank is... And I don't think Shank is going to be catching anyone by surprise. I think all of the stat heads, and I'm clearly one of those people myself, so I say that tongue-in-cheek, but I think they'll likely...

like what they see with Shank. I don't think he'll be as steamy as good old Roger Sloan, but I think people are going to like what they see with Shank. He finished sixth here in 2019 and he's coming off a week at the rocket mortgage. I played him last week too. Um, he's actually been on my radar for, for a little bit and he's just,

Terrible around the green. He finished 40th last week and lost six strokes around the green. If he's missing greens at TPC Deer Run, I think he's fucked anyway. I'm not really concerned with that. What I do care about is that he can get really hot with the irons. Seventh in opportunities gained, so he gives himself a ton of chances. I think he's worth a shot.

And then the reason I landed on the Jigas is, you know, he's played here a bunch, a lot of menacing middling finishes, nothing really special, but he gained almost three strokes on approach last week. He's kind of bad off the tee, but I think that's fine here. We can live with

He's just another one of those guys that he's putting poorly right now, but he isn't a bad putter. Like he's had multiple starts this year where he's gained over four and a half strokes putting. So I think he can turn that around. He just has the correct skill set for this course. In my opinion, I know that he's, like I said, not great off the tee, but he can get really hot with the irons and really hot with the putter. Good wedge player. And he's been...

He's been good this year. He finished 8th at the Honda, 17th at the Valero, 25th at the Heritage, 11th at the Valspar. We're talking about a week here where Seamus Power is $9,000 and Camilo Villegas is $6,600. Is the difference that great? Are we sure? I almost bet Villegas a couple of weeks ago. I forget what the tournament was. I definitely bet him top 40 a couple of weeks ago. Colonial?

It might have been one of those. I bet him at Colonial too. I might have been with you that we found him. He's a guy who can, like you said, he can make birdies, and that's what you're going to be looking for. Guys just go out there and score. A couple other guys who I don't really do first-round leader bets like ever, and this might be the type of event where I throw some darts at it. J.J. Spahn is a guy who...

who I feel like at this type of event is going to shoot like nine under on day one and then missed a cut somehow. But like, he's the guy who I might end up betting first round leader. Um, I don't know if you have a lot of research done on him, but for some reason, Ben Martin comes up fifth in my model when I sort last 24 rounds. Yes. And I don't think be careful with that. Me too. Yeah.

And then I sort of left 36 and he dropped like 20th. So there's gotta be something in there that's throwing it off a little bit. But I like the Adam Shankle. Adam Shankle is a guy who I used. I don't remember how long ago it was probably a couple of months ago. I had him in like my cash game lineup, probably like,

four weeks in a row. He was just making every single cut. And all I needed was a guy like 7K to make the cut. And that's who I would just throw in there. So I really liked that call top 40 bets. Definitely. Adam saying, I might be with you if you bet him top four, I can see myself getting there. So a big number on him.

Yeah, I'm going to bet him top 40. And Ben Martin, you're right. He popped in my model too. But if you look at what he's done most recently, he missed a cut at the Rocket Mortgage, lost strokes in all four categories, missed a cut at Palmetto, lost strokes in all four categories. I think the reason why he's coming up in everyone's models is he just had that nice little run

where he went 26th at the Byron Nelson, 11th at the Wells Fargo, and 34th at the Vuelo Texas Open. But if you shrink the sample size, it's not great. So I'm probably out on Martin. Anyone else in there that we didn't talk about? I think for me, it's looking like...

The top 40 guys that I'm going to bet are Shank, Vijaygas, Nick Taylor. We didn't talk about Zach Johnson. I talked about Zach Johnson on my solo podcast, and I actually wrote him up in the Roto Baller article. I'm going to bet Zach Johnson to finish top 40 this week. I'm going to play Zach Johnson in DFS if he's not...

20%. I think Zach Johnson is a really... Don't overthink this one. You know me, Mark. You know I avoid chalk like the plague and I'm always about trying to find the sneaky guys that no one else is talking about. I understand that Zach Johnson is literally the most obvious player this week and he's completely overpriced and he's going to be over-owned.

I think you should play Zach Johnson this week. Like, I think, I really think that Zach Johnson is going to have a great week and it doesn't really have a ton to do with his course history. It's all about the ball striking for me. So I, Zach Johnson's the other guy that we didn't get a chance to talk about, but I'm definitely going to play in the top 40 market.

Yeah, so Zach Johnson's a guy I'll definitely have exposure to, at least in drafting. He's probably going to be uber popular, but that's going to be okay. It's going to be okay to roll with. I think I told you last week or something. I forget who did it, but there are some like,

Somebody dove deep into the good chalk versus bad chalk. I think it was like any chalk over like 8,500, like chalk being like greater than like 17 and a half percent has overperformed expectations. But then chalk like in the 7k or below is where you start to really run into some issues. So playing Zach Johnson, even though he's going to be popular, I don't think is a bad call. One guy we didn't talk about was around like that 80 range.

Kramer Hickok. Do you have any interest in him at all? I know he just lost that marathon against Harris English a couple of weekends ago, but I don't know. Sell me real quick. Interesting. So I haven't like gone all the way in on him yet. Like I haven't like looked at it completely, but he was a guy who he kept coming up for. He's only like 19th in my model. So I probably, uh,

wouldn't get to him outright unless I really start to like turn a blind eye to some things, but six in greens regulations gain six and fairways gain third and good drives 26 and birdie or better over the last 24 rounds. He's a guy, if you're going to look at a guy who's going to just, like I said, it greens hit fairways. And I don't know if it was just because he's in the playoff, but he made every single cut. It,

if he can hit greens the way he has been hitting greens and putt the way he putted for those eight playoff holes, like he can go out there and win this week. And at 81 in this field, that's where I was a little bit like drawn to. Like I mentioned earlier, guys who once they get some experience at a chance at winning, also like,

this is going to be such a crappy event. The CBS coverage needs to talk about that wine bottle again for another like three hours. So I think this is just like a perfect scripting for them for Kramer. They have another showing this week. I like it. I don't think a ton of people will be on him too. And I think you raised a good point about the chalk thing where it's like, I'm going to play guys like Nick Taylor and Vijay gets that. No one is going to play. So I,

it doesn't really matter what I do at the top of the board, as long as my low guys outperform the low guys that everyone else is picking, which is like going to be guys like Roger Sloan and stuff like that. The problem. Yeah. Ben Martin. The problem that I always make Mark is that I'm just like, Oh, well I'm going to, I'm going to differentiate at the bottom.

and i'm going to differentiate at the top and that's what ends me up playing like a hundred percent sung jm and zero percent walking neiman last week even though sung jay was like a really great play he finished eighth but i kept i kept being like all right like sung j had half the ownership of neiman what scenario would i ever want to play neiman in the spot when sung j is half the ownership so

So yeah, and I think it's really interesting. I know there's a betting show, not to get too into the DFS side of things, but I think it's going to be pretty level at the top. I think that just looking... It's still very early in the week, but just looking at the Fantasy National stuff, I think that there's not a ton of buzz on Berger, even though I think he's fairly priced, to be honest with you, in this field. I don't think that the ownership that you got with Bryson last week...

at the rocket mortgage i don't think you're gonna see like 28 or 30 on burger this week and then all these guys are going to be split pretty evenly i feel like between henley and harman and um sung jay i think will be the guy that people gravitate the least to and i think no one will play cameron davis coming off a win too but yeah i mean like i think it's really important to pick

Pick the guy that you like no matter what, regardless of what the ownership is. And then there are so many ways that you can differentiate elsewhere. If you pick the best player between Harmon, Henley, and Strelman, if you get that threesome right, that's a potential W. If you get one of the guys at the very bottom right, that's a potential W too. And then Zach Johnson, you can just pick

put him in there and he's, he's fine. So that's probably what I'm going to end up doing. But Mark, before we get out of here, any closing thoughts, you want to like do a quick little recap. I know that I've kind of danced around who I'm actually betting, but I think for me, the only two bets that I've made is Redmond at 66 and Vegas at 70. And the players that I'm pretty close on are, um,

Henley at 22, Wise at 55, Gim at 66, Stallings at 80, and Munoz at 65. So some combination of that, but I think it's going to be like those guys in there in that kind of 50 to 80 range. And then top 40, I'm going to play Zach Johnson, Adam Shank, Nick Taylor, Camille Vajegas. I want to fit some Lucas Glover,

Patton Kazire and Matt McNeely in there somehow. So I don't know how I'm going to do that, but like all of those guys I like, I just don't know if I'm going to be able to have room for them, but that's kind of what it's looking like for me. What about for you? So I already bet Kevin Stroman at 28 and Kevin not 45. Outside of that, the guys who I'm still looking at would be Kyle Stanley around like that 60 number. Yeah. I just mentioned about him.

Kramer Hickok around 80, Scott Stallings around 80, Pat Perez around like 85 are all guys I'm going to be like looking into more. But top 40, Charles Howell, Adam Schenk, Bryce Garnett, Pat Perez, and Scott Brown are the guys I'm probably going to go with. Scott Brown is just the complete course history that nobody really knows about and maybe finishes top 40. He's like 250 to one. So I figured the top 40 has got to be a decent number. So that's all I have.

That's all I have. I forgot to mention, I might go Matthew Neesmith at like 160 outright, but that would be...

for less than I normally like a 10th of a unit. That wouldn't be really that much at all. Yeah. Thank God. Austin Eckrod isn't in the field this week. So I can just like lay off that for a week or two, man. That was brutal. Um, well, last week, last week I tweeted like, why bet Bryson at seven to one? We can bet Justin Sue top 40 at six to one. And then the last hole to miss the cut. Yeah.

I know you're so pissed about that. We're talking about that. Yeah, it was one of those days like so the and I know you were on Bramlett too. And I like loved Todd father. Like I was all in on Todd. I talked him up on Mayo show. I think you were the first person that put him on my radar Monday night. And then by like Wednesday, I like had fully talked myself into him.

What other scenario? I don't know what the true strokes gained would be and how much they actually lost to the field that day. But for Brendan Todd, Chez Reavy, and Joseph Bramlett on Friday to all be inside the cut line and all shoot over par and to combine to shoot plus seven on that course and all miss the cut by one stroke. How is that going to happen?

My entire card missed a cut on Friday. They made it on Thursday. All they had to do was shoot even on one of the easiest golf courses, and they would have made the cut, and they all shot over par. I was sitting there like, Todd is the one that drove me crazy because he was missing six, seven footers. I bet on him because he's a good putter. I don't always bet on putters. I'm betting on a guy who's a putter, and now he's also losing strokes. Last Friday was a pretty brutal day two of a tournament for me also. Yeah.

Yeah. All right, man. Well, any British Open thoughts? You want to do a little British Open, like five, 10 minutes on the British? Have you done any research yet? I haven't done any research. I was on a podcast earlier today with Wabado and they're from the UK. So they normally cover a little bit more Euro. That's on their side of it. Usually I write for PGA stuff and then they have a guy who writes for the Euro. He was on a couple of guys who I probably would not have gotten onto.

And I know that they're going to post the card on the website probably tomorrow. But the only guy who actually I say two guys who I was really looking into was Scotty Shuffler at 30. I just love Shuffler. Like, yeah, there's no other reason besides me just wanting to bet on Shuffler the week that he wins. And then kind of like Corey Connors, it's like a 50 on him.

He was 40 at a lot of the Eurobooks. And I just like, he's kind of fallen off a lot of people's radars. He's obviously a ball striking machine. He played the PGA Championship at Evenpar, which was pretty good. I think that was good enough for T17, which was a pretty much link style course also. So those are the two guys who I had circled.

And then somebody who I'm going to keep an eye on going forward. I'm probably not going to bet them for anything like the Open next week or for the Euro event this week. But Ian Coulter's a guy who I feel like

As we get closer to the Ryder Cup, there's a guy to probably keep an eye on because I feel like he's starting to really put his foot on the gas. But for the Open, I have no bets yet. I'm sure Louis Usuason is going to be the most popular bet of the week, along with Xander because Xander just got married. And for Euro this week, the Scottish Open, maybe I'll go Scheffler and Corey Connors. Yeah, the Xander, I mean...

Yeah, the Xander thing is a whole different podcast for me. But do you really think that people are going to still bet him at like 18 to 1? I mean, he's also 12 to 1 for the tournament this week, which wouldn't be hilarious if he goes out and wins the Scottish Open this week. I think that'd just be the funniest thing. He just wins the Scottish Open and doesn't do anything at the Open.

I would not be laughing, Mark. I would not be laughing at all. But yeah, that would be like the, yes, a lot of people would get enjoyment out of that. Yes. That would be a very likely scenario. I could see that happening. It would be so funny too, because then you'd be six to one for the open. Yeah, I know. So I feel like what I was seeing with Xander is like, he gets married, right? And

This is literally all just kind of happening right before we went live and started podcasting.

he gets married and people are like, people are like poking fun at him. Like, Oh, like I tweeted out, like as a fan of Xander, like with completely agnostic of like any betting endorsement on him whatsoever. Like, I don't know what I'm going to do for the U S for the British open. Like I have to dig into it. Like I have, I have stuff to do. I haven't figured it out yet, but I'm just a fan of Xander. So I really, I really like Xander. And I was like, let's go like two weeks, baby, like good vibes. And I,

I think people are like misconstruing that as like all the idiots like betting Xander, like you guys are such an idiot for betting Xander like at these short odds. It's like, first of all, it's not Xander's fault that he's at these odds, right? Like what's he supposed to do? Like it doesn't make any sense to me why that has turned into like Xander sucks.

because he's at these odds. Like if Xander didn't win at 40 to one every week versus if Xander didn't win at 20 to one every week, what's the fucking difference? Like there are millions of guys that don't win at 40 to one every single fucking week. What's the difference that they price him that way? If you don't want to bet him, don't fucking bet it.

If they put them at 40 to one each week, the books would be out of business. At least in Europe, they do the eight place each way. Yeah. They have to protect themselves. Like if they put them at like 40 to 50 to one, like people would just be betting them every single week and cashing that top eight ticket. So is there anybody for the Scottish open this week who you think might play really well or do something to crash their odds for the open next week afterwards? Yeah.

I didn't do a ton of Scottish stuff, but I think that JT could be interesting. To answer your question, I think if any of the top guys...

I think the numbers that you really want to monitor are the numbers on guys like Bryson and Dustin and guys that aren't playing in the Scottish Open. So if you have interest in a guy like Bryson or Dustin, you're probably rooting for a big week out of a Rom, a Rory, a JT, or a Xander. And I would probably wait on those guys. But for example, like...

If you are really high on JT for the British and you think he's also going to play well at the Scottish, like for sure, those odds are going to crater. If he plays well, I haven't done like enough. I'm, I'm never one of those guys, Mark, that bets into those markets like all year. I'm one of those guys where I'm,

I just like all of the information at my disposal. Like the week before, I just want to have all of the updated numbers. I don't care if I get a slightly worse number on somebody than I would if I had bet him in January. I just want to have all of the updated information. I want to have the full picture. I want to know everything. So like, I just, I'm kind of waiting and seeing. And like the second I finish all my John Deere stuff on Wednesday, I'm going to really crack into it.

Yeah, I agree. The only event that I might bet ahead of time is the Masters because we know what the course is every single year. When the courses rotate with all the other majors, I am such a make a narrative for the week type of person that I can't do that three months in advance for me to say, oh, this is a good value. Yeah, I'm the same way.

Yeah, so for me this week, I honestly, maybe I'll post it as like an official play, but I probably end up betting Scheffler and Connors in the Scottish Open, just because I like them a lot. And then for the Open afterwards, I have nothing on my card yet.

I mean, I really want Hovland to win it. So I might be like biased here. So I might not have to like, maybe I'll just like secret bet him. Cause I can't like continuously lose on Victor Hovland. And it's like, I was so mad when he withdrew for the sand in the eye thing. Cause he was my one in one pick that week also. So like, like I feel like he owes me a dub at some point, but do you have any, before we go any thoughts on like Ricky Fowler? I didn't even know he qualified for the open until today. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, maybe. I don't... To be honest with you, I'm so, like...

I've only at this point in my process, I've only like started processing the top of the board. The extent of my research has been like, okay, who's my guy at the top? And then I will kind of like work down from there. I had no idea that Ricky Fowler was in the field. One of the things that I've been doing is, and I would recommend this to anyone that wants to either, I think it's helpful for research purposes, A, and I think if you're just like a golf fan, B,

go on YouTube and the RNA, you can watch an hour long film of every single British open that's like ever happened. And like,

I started doing that two nights ago just to kind of like get in the spirit and kind of remember what the types of players I'm looking to target on links golf and stuff like that. I watched the Royal St. George's one, the last one that Darren Clark won in 2011. I forgot. I watched some other one, but I've watched like three of them. And then two out of the three, like Ricky contended. And

And I like completely forgot that Ricky did that. So yeah, you're probably onto something with Ricky. I didn't even like, like I've said, like I haven't even gotten to the point yet in my research where I'm like, is this guy good on links courses? Yeah. Same with me. I have to really dig into that. I started making the spreadsheet I make for every major where I kind of like try to find trends. A couple of things I noticed were just like your normal, like

official world golf ranking trends and like has done like top 10 in our last five starts type of type of thing so once this week is over i could probably really start to get an idea of like who fits into those trends and start to narrow down my list and really get the handful of guys who i think could could actually go win at a links course at a major so like we always say like like brooks always says to get a major half the field's already eliminated and

I can only imagine when it's like the open, it's probably even more so because it's one it's in not even in the United States. So it's probably going to be tougher for travel time and whatnot. So got to look into that probably on Thursday. Once this tournament kicks off. Me too, man. I'm, I'm on the exact same schedule as you, Mark. I think that'll do it for us, man. Why don't you tell everybody where they can find you over the, I'm sure you're going to be a busy guy over the next two weeks.

Yeah, so I'll be writing for WabuDub and for the Breakdown Sports. I have all that on my Twitter profile. I call Fets101 on my Twitter account. I'll be posting a bunch of spreadsheets over the next couple of weeks, and I'll be going on a couple podcasts with WabuDub and with the Breakdown and anybody else who reaches out over the next week or two. So that's where you can find me.

Awesome. Thanks, Mark, so much. I know that we will be in contact every day over the next couple of weeks, yelling at the players that we decide to bat and discussing all of our British Open takes and running it by each other. So look forward to that with you, my friend. And thanks for joining me, buddy. Awesome. Thank you.

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