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Got that right this time. Totally botched it on the show. But Capper's great. I was turned on to their podcast through our mutual friend Nagels. And as you all know, it's a bit of a strange week. So apologies that this is coming out on a Wednesday morning. But we did the best with everyone's schedule. Before we get to the BMW, let's talk about Rotoballer. When big in 2021 with Rotoballer. I want to talk about Rotoballer's golf content real quick. So I actually changed this ad due to recent circumstances.

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sports gambling podcast. We literally just talked about this and I still screwed it up. But how's it going, my friend? It's good, brother. Like we said offline, right? Just kind of scrambling around today, trying to digest as much information as possible. The numbers, the DFS prices, what the course actually looks like. Is it 71, 72? Like what the hell's going on? Like, yeah.

It's a good time today, man. It's good. It's like running around with your hair on fire. Okay, just so I got everything right. It's the Golf Gambling Podcast on the Sports Gambling Podcast Network. You guys have a great podcast that I was turned on to through our mutual friend Nagels. I started listening-

for the first time because you guys always have him on for the majors. Yep. So I started listening to the show when you guys had him on, I think it was for like the U S open or something and haven't stopped since, man. I think you guys do great work. Thanks, man. I appreciate it. Yeah. Me and Steve got a good dynamic. I'm much more of a gut handicapper. Sometimes I use stats and models to just confirm whatever bias my gut has or, or argue against it. And Steve's like you, man breaks down, uh,

the course just immaculately and just is always spot on with the really hardcore analysis. And I lean on guys like you and him to make my decisions really.

Yeah. Steve's a smart guy too. I like the dynamic that you guys have at play. But anyway, man, before we get into Caves Valley and the BMW Championship, any closing Northern Trust thoughts at all? I mean, look, I'm happy for Fido. I didn't have him. I didn't even listen to you talk about him on Sunday when I was driving back from the wedding. I didn't watch...

basically any golf Friday, Saturday, Sunday, because I was up in the mountains in North Carolina for a wedding. So I was actually fine with the rain delay because I got to watch it on Monday. But yeah, listen, I put a football bet on Rahm. I had Smith.

I heard that. Yeah. God, man. So I was like, so I listened to you say that. I was like, man, I already got Rahm. I already got Smith. Like this is where I start getting myself in trouble when I fire off too many live bets. I was like, I'm just going to let it sit. And cause Steve fucking texted me about him too. And I was like, no, I'm just going to sit. I'm just going to sit. And I sat and I,

just ripped up my fucking tickets. But listen, I'm happy for Tony, man. I really am. Like, like everybody says, he's a great guy. It seems like a really genuine dude. And it'll be, it'll be nice to stop the top five Tony jokes. And now we can start coming up with some new material. Yeah. I think with, I would, Tony was like, I was super high on him pre-tournament. Not, I didn't bet him outright pre-tournament 14 to one before the final round. But, but,

I just thought it had gotten to the point where it's like, it was more in the DraftKings context for me, but like he's 8.2 now and like 7%. And it's like, where are we? This guy's still better than Harris English and a lot of these other guys that are, that are ahead of him. So I just thought it was a pretty good by low spot for him.

And I was a little surprised going into the final round that him and Justin Thomas were both at 14 under, but Justin Thomas was seven to one and Finau was 14 to one, but Finau was hitting the ball better, way better than JT. So I was kind of just surprised at that, which is kind of why that led me down that route that I think it was, I think it's a pretty decent play despite his history of not closing tournaments. But no, that's definitely a great number on a Sunday, especially with them hanging back like that. And that JT number is just like,

Just like, you know, hanging a Patriots number in New England, like a sportsman, right? Like, you know, you're going to get action on it regardless. But yeah, like in conditions like that, that we're going to be sloppy and not perfect conditions, like I'll take Tony all day over JT on that.

Yeah, 100%. Well, all right, man, I'm ready to put that tournament in the past. We're just talking about how much it screwed up both of our weeks. So we're doing the best with what we have available and to make it even to add insult to injury. This is a course that everyone seems to have a different opinion on. This is a course that we've never seen before in PGA Tour competition.

Caves Valley Golf Club. It's a par 72 measuring 7,542 yards. I have that confirmed now. I didn't even have that confirmed by the time that I did my research podcast. So I'll kick it to you, Chris, and just ask you this question. I don't know how much you've been following Twitter today at all, but the big debate that everyone seems to want to talk about is how easy or difficult this course is going to play. Do you have any, what have you done so far in terms of Caves Valley?

So I read Steve's article. I listened to your thing on Sunday and basically anything that looked, I looked interested in where I had like five or 10 minutes today. I clicked on I'm in the camp, right? I think they're going to set this up difficult. I don't think they want a, I don't think they want a 20. I don't think they want a 20 under birdie fest. I think they want to like last year. And you look at how they set up quails hollow this year with Rory one, like that was not a birdie fest. You know, the,

Even Congaree Like Congaree was fucking tough With all those With how it played Everyone thought that was Going to be super easy too Yeah That was That course That needs to be In rotation Like I want to see that It's awesome Oh my god I loved it Because I like courses like that I don't like the Fucking Punta Canas And all the Yeah 25 unders Like whatever man Like I like to see guys Struggle and grind And I want like The best golfer

to go out and win and have to win it. Especially in the playoffs. Yeah, absolutely. So I'm hoping they set it up more difficult. And I hope it plays more like Quail Hollow than Shadow, right? Because Shadow Creek was a fucking birdie fest and Quail Hollow was not. Same course design. What's crazy is the fact that Kokrak won Shadow Creek. So I was thinking about this.

There must not be a shit ton of sand, even though it's a Fazio course at shadow Creek. Cause go crack is terrible out of the sand. Terrible, terrible. I don't know how he navigated that. I'm trying to remember. I think that was when I was still slightly more focused on football than golf. I will always remember that Xander finished second, but I, yeah, I would, that's a good, I mean, you bring up a good point with the fairway bunkers and the greenside bunkers. Cause that was like the first thing that stood out to me when I was going through all the hole by hole stuff. I was like,

That's why I didn't think it was going to be that easy because I was like, this course is just littered with trouble everywhere. And then the more information that I got since I did my Sunday show is that now we know that the fairways are 25 yards wide on average. That's really...

really narrow. Just for context, TPC Southwind, that has pretty narrow fairways. Those are 29 on average. Wingfoot has the narrowest fairways we've seen in a year. Those are 21. This is somewhere in between now

Southwind and Winged Foot. And just for context, like Old White, TPC, Muirfield Village, TPC Twin Cities, those guys are all like 35 and above. So that was kind of the thing that stood out to me the most based on how I've pivoted from what I knew on Sunday to what I know now. I'm just shocked how narrow these fairways are.

Yeah, I wish I knew that this morning. I think everybody woke up this morning like, what, fucking 6.45? I'm getting my kids up for school, and I'm on the back porch having my coffee, refreshing all my books, trying to see where the numbers are at. And everybody jumped on Bryson super early. Yeah, we'll get there for sure. The initial word was wide fairways. Fucking super easy. That fits Bryson. And now it's like, does it now? I don't know. Is it going to be wing foot with a rough? He's just going to be able to muscle it out of it? I don't know. Whatever.

Yeah, we can get to Bryson a little bit later, but the scrambling this morning with still almost no information and confirmation on how the course was going to play, and I just blind bet. I think I blind bet four guys already. Yeah, and I think that was my whole thing. It's like if you look at the specs of the course on paper, 7,500 yards with pretty small and undulating greens, some of the smallest fairways on tour, a ton of bunkers, above average rough in terms of thickness,

They made all these changes themselves. Like no one asked them to do that. That's not the type of thing that you do if you want a course to play easy, but everyone says it's going to play super easy. So I mean, maybe it does. I'm just looking at all the information I have and all the pictures and how it compares to other courses. And on paper from just like a pure core...

pure course spec standpoint, this course is actually way more winged foot Olympia fields, Bay Hill, quail hollow than it is like Detroit golf club or TPC deer runner, whatever. But I don't know, man. I mean, I talked to Patrick McDonald who was there all day and he was like,

Yeah, maybe 20 under is a little ambitious, but I still think that like 16 is maybe that magic number. So after a certain point, we're just kind of speculating and arguing for the sake of argument. Does it change like how you're handicapping this tournament that much, whether you think the winning score is 22 under or 14 under? So some guys, right? So I wanted to play hard because I like Louie this week a lot because I like him on these grind courses. I don't like him at the 20 unders.

And look, and it's funny, like I've been a Louis guy for a long time and I was actually off him a bunch this year. You and Brian are going to get along great. Yeah. And so, but I, what's funny is I just, I got burned by him a couple of times, like over the past two years. And I was like, you know what? I gotta, I have too many of these fucking guys, right? I have too many of these guys who I like just constantly lose me money and I need to quit some of them. So I gave Louis a break and he fucking goes on the run, whatever. I was able to get back on him from top fives and top tens, but yeah,

I mean, on a, on a hardcore style, like, but I don't like them shooting 20 under. And listen, if Tony Finau, if Tony Finau can win like the next week for Louie to win on us soil in the FedEx cup playoffs, I mean, it's perfect. It's a perfect. Yeah, it is. I mean, I think there are a lot of, I was kind of thinking the same thing. It's like, we go answer, uh,

right into fee now who's next like i feel like the best candidates are like louis and i don't know maybe i feel like scheffler needs a win really badly he's so crazy he hasn't won yet like you think about scheffler and you're like oh no he's won and you're like well no he hasn't though he hasn't actually won like he always has a bad it's not even a day he has a bad hole he has a bad hole on a sunday or a saturday he throws up a snowman like i do on the fucking weekend and it's a wrap

He did completely. And I'm, I've been like captaining the ship of him being on the Ryder cup. So I think he needs one more big kind of message to Steve Stricker, whether it's a top 10 or a top five or, or ideally a win, obviously. But I think he needs, cause I think you got it. We don't, we're not going to do a whole Ryder cup thing, but I think you got it. I think Tony's kind of on now. Oh, he's definitely on now. Yeah. I think he, I,

I thought he should have been on before. I think all he needed to do was show a pulse in the playoffs, and that was worth it based on how good he's been at whistling straights. Right, exactly. Yeah, I think Scheffler's got to kind of outplay a Harris Inglis or a Jason Kokrak or a Webb down the stretch. I know you said we're not going to do the Ryder Cup thing, but I don't want— You can. There's no rules. Okay, good. Because I don't want Webb on this fucking team. I don't want Webb on it at all.

And listen, I'm a big Kokrak guy. I actually had a ticket on him when he won shadow Creek, but he is not playing the same way. I know he's long and he can pot, but we got plenty of those guys. Like we have plenty of those guys on this team. We need a mix. Like give me some young blood. Give me Scotty. Like we got to train these guys moving forward. And he's a long enough, good enough player where why wouldn't we have Scotty instead of fucking dust web and, and,

Eh, Kokrak, who might just out-party it too much. Yeah, I'm with you. I think that... Yeah, I think a lot is... To be honest with you, I don't think they have their minds made up. I think it's so tight between a lot of these guys and what really happens these next two weeks is going to be pretty impactful. So...

Let's get into the odds, man. I'm going to give you guys these. I'm using DraftKings right now. So I'll give you all the guys that are 25 and below. These may have moved as the afternoon has gone on. But we've got Jon Rahm at 500%.

plus 500. Zander at 14 to one on DraftKings. I know that will trigger a lot of people. Jordan at 16. Colin Murcaw at 18. Justin Thomas at 20. DJ at 22. Louie at 22. Brooks at 25. Bryson opened at 35 and now he's down to 25. So we can talk about Bryson in this category as well. Chris, is there anyone in that kind of tier that you're probably going to?

So I'm on Bryson because I snapped at him this morning just because of the number. And I still have a better number on Xander. I mean, Rahmet. So I got him at 650. I got him at five at my local. Like, it's just such a stupid bet. Like, it's so dumb. Like, take him in matchups. It's just not – the juice ain't worth the squeeze on that. Like, I even – like, I hit him at 10-1 on the U.S. Open, and I bet him, what, 11-1 or 10-1 this past weekend. But you have to put such a sizable bet down where it's like –

It's a short field or whatever. That number's way too goddamn short. I'm a little worried about just kind of ignoring JT after the flat stick came back last week. But I have no faith in Morikawa with the pinched nerve. Thanks for the golf journalist for letting anybody know that he had a...

Like, we talk about it all the time on our podcast. Like, can we get an Adam Schefter at golf? Can I get some sort of fucking injury update, please? Spieth Legion is, like, trying to do that. Yeah. But we don't have one. I know. It's a fucking nightmare. Like, there's nothing worse than that. Like, oh, well, little did you know, the guy you bet on changed his putter last night at 10 o'clock. Oh, great. Thanks. Thanks for that. Like, fucking Christ. But, yeah, I don't think...

I know big guys win this tournament, but I feel like there's good guys down in some of the lower numbers. I don't have faith in Cantlay. I don't trust Smith coming, coming off of a near miss DJ. Jesus. I know. I think you were on him last week too, right? It was unfortunately. Oh my God. Me too, man. Like, and, and I think, I think I heard what you said, which made a hundred percent sense to me is that, uh, I think he can flip a switch. Right. I think the same thing about him. And I just don't think he does anymore. Yeah. Yeah. That was, that was the whole thing with me too. Yeah. He, he, he,

he had this, there was this thing where I just kept waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting for him to turn it on. And he just hasn't been able to do that yet. And I'm surprised, like you would think based on recent form, he would be the guy that would draft into the high twenties maybe, but they're just, they're just not doing that right now with him. So I don't have any interest in him either. What do you think about speed? 25 to one is not too bad for a guy with decent course history of Fazio courses. He's,

you know, whatever he's, he's, he's around the greens. Great. His putting is great. Like he's much better off the tee, obviously over the last 12 months. I just don't, I don't really know what to do with them at that number. Yeah. I'm looking at the 16 on draft Kings, which is definitely a no for me, but at 25, that kind of has my interest a little bit more. I think speed's fine this week. I looked at him. I think that the Sunday 79, um,

juked his stats a little bit. So they're going to look a lot worse today than they would have had he, you know, not shot that round. And he was kind of by the end of that round, it was just totally leaking oil. The reason why I probably know with Spieth is I love Brooks this week. Okay. I really do. You want to hear the case? Yeah, let's go give it to him. So I'm

I've gotten a little pushback on Brooks so far with some of the guys that I, I talk off with and, and,

I was really close to betting him last week. I ended up, as we mentioned, going with DJ at the 11th hour, but both were ultimately the wrong decision. But man, I was there on the grounds on Friday and all I kept hearing during Xander 62 was here comes Brooks. Look at Brooks. He's shooting a 64 and has missed 10 putts inside five feet. And he was awesome. He gained a ton on approach. He gained a ton off the tee. And then he had a shitty weekend.

And especially City Sunday. And I think the thing with Brooks is, I don't think he's interested in grinding out a T7. And I think his Saturdays... I think his Saturday got off the rails pretty quickly. He was like plus three through three at the same time that everyone was going super low. And I think he probably looked up at the scoreboard and Jenna in that incredibly tight dress. And it's like...

It's like, I don't, he's just, he's not that guy. And you see it with him all the time where, you know, I understand that's not an excuse for him to not to fight back a little bit, but he didn't have a chance. He was six strokes back. He was 12 strokes back on Saturday, six strokes back entering the final round. And sure. Maybe if he birdied the first couple of holes, but you know, he got off a too slow start on Sunday. And my point is this happens all the time.

all the time with Brooks and it jukes his stats, which by the way are still pretty good. And I think people get the wrong perception of him. Like, like I said, I don't understand why DJ is getting more respect right now in the betting market than Brooks. This is a guy, there's a perfect course for Brooks.

Him and Bryson, they're the only two guys in this field. They're top 10 in strokes gained off the tee, driving distance, and par five scoring. Only two guys, Brooks and Bryson. And at a very elementary level, I think those three things are going to be really fucking important. So I don't think...

Beast should have lower odds than Brooks on this course. I don't think Louis should have shorter odds than Brooks on this course. As much as I love Xander, I don't think Xander should have lower odds than Brooks on this course. I don't think an injured Morikawa should have lower odds than Brooks in this course. So I found Brooks at 28 to 1, and I bet it.

Okay. So I still got him at 25 to one. It's funny. So you have the same line of thinking I do as far as Brooks did. Cause I said the same thing to Steve. I was like, Hey, listen, man, he just didn't give a fuck. Like he just, you can see it. You can tell when he gives a shit and when he does not give a shit.

And the fact that he lost almost two strokes putting or maybe even over two strokes putting this weekend, that's not Brooks. You know what I mean? And you're right. The score is designed for him. So it's funny. I have Brooks with a question mark next to it. Like, let me see what Andy and everybody else thinks tonight. And same thing for JT for me. It's like, should I just ignore him? That flat stick's been bad for a year. I don't feel like I can pull the trigger after one fucking good performance. I just can't.

it's, it's tight. I think you could make a case for like a lot of these guys. Like if we're going to do the Fazio thing, JT has been incredible, incredible on Fazio courses. Rory has been an unbelievable on Fazio courses. He's now, you can get them out like 20 to one. What are your thoughts on Rory? Cause I was,

All in last week. I was all in. And then you tweeted me something about it. When I said like, somebody talked me out of this football bet. You're like Rory's in the field. Yeah. He gains a, he has a 10 stroke difference between tournaments and his irons, which you could have given me a million outcomes. I would have never guessed that Rory would have gone from plus six to minus four on approach, but yeah,

Could you go back there? I mean, it's a pretty good number. It is a good number, right? And so I got to issue a personal issue with Rory. I don't know if you've ever heard me rant about him or not. I know you're not a fan. I don't know the extent of it, but I know you're not a big Rory guy.

So he kind of redeemed himself a little bit with me. And so I'm like 97% Irish, right? And I'm Irish Catholic, right? And so him not supporting the Irish flag type thing kind of irritated me. It's all the shit my father and my uncle and my grandfather all downloaded into me. How about the 180 he did at the Olympics? And that's the thing. And I was like, all right, fine. I'll give you a pass. And you're right, the number's there. And I said the same thing last week. I said, I really liked what was...

happening. He was hitting his iron so good. I just couldn't pull the trigger because typically I'll make one, maybe two bets under 25 to one. You know what I mean? And so it's like you really get to start splitting hands with these guys. And I feel like this week's a little easier because I'm not taking Rom. I'm not taking... Right? So I'm going to

Oh man. Like I guess I got so, but the fact that you like Brooks too, and I kind of like Brooks and he didn't give a fuck on Sunday. And I feel like we're getting a discount. Um, I think I'd go with Brooks. Okay. Let's have the Bryson conversation real quick because, um,

Okay. So I like pretty much any other person I talk off with. I bet the Bryson 35 before I even got out of bed this morning. I know that you do too. Look, that was a stupid number and obviously it's gone and yeah, everyone's going to be on him and he probably won't win. But on this course, that was a fucking mistake. You can't tell me that number was a fucking mistake. Somebody was asleep.

That's what I'm saying. And I would have had it. I would have had interest in him too at 25 to one. He was the guy I wrote up in my article. He was the guy that kind of made the most sense as soon as I started my research. Two reasons. And this harkens back to

kind of a little bit what we were talking about at the top with the narrow fairways. I love that for him. I think the formula that he used at Bay Hill to a certain extent and winged foot, certainly, and Torrey Pines as well to a certain extent before he kind of melted down on the final few holes. Yeah. I,

I have not seen anything this week that leads me to believe that he can't do the exact same thing here. And if no one's hitting these fairways and he can carry all the trouble, then I think that puts him in a huge advantage. The other reason is he's just hitting the ball unbelievably well right now. Like this is the best that he's hit the ball season. Obviously the off the tee is there. He's gained over three strokes on approach and back to back starts. The short game and putting has been terrible.

And I think that you can survive with a mediocre short game here. Maybe not as much if we think this course is going to be a little bit harder if we're kind of of that belief system. But I think we're going to see some positive regression with the putter, man. Oh, yeah. And everyone wants to talk about Bryson's distance. But, like, I was listening to that interview with Bryson's caddie. Did you listen to that? Yeah, yeah. He was like – and I know he's biased, but he was like, Bryson's the best putter in the world. Like, he puts –

really fucking good. If he's not the best, he's fucking close. Like he is, he's really fucking good. Yeah. And he, and his caddies, like he puts just as much time into his putting as he does into the distance thing. And like the numbers back it up too. He's really good. And, and he put it like shit last week. He lost 2.8 and he's lost over two strokes, putting just four times.

in the last calendar year. Next start, he's gained an average of 4.1. So I think he's going to bounce back with the putter and who knows, maybe DraftKings will pay for this one. Yeah, yeah. Listen, I'm fine with the number I got him at. At 20 to one, maybe I'll see how he is coming out on Thursday. Like if whoever's listening hasn't bet yet, like maybe I'll see how he comes out. And that's a strategy I've actually been taking a lot more over the past couple of weeks.

because i'm a complete degenerate like i just am like that's just the way i am and and and so like you know i do the i do the math right i make sure i'm not like i don't have too many where like all right well if one hits i still lose money how the and then everything goes yeah yeah exactly right so all right so now i'm trying to limit myself to like four to six outright pre-tourney and i'm trying to even lean it down to four unless i've really got a feeling on somebody or it's a stupid number right i don't even count that one if i catch somebody with a stupid number like that doesn't even count that's just a number bet

And so I've been trying to like, all right, so who's going to get off to a fast start? We're going to catch a book sleeping. You know, it's even on a Sunday. You can catch books sleeping, man. Like this guy's, you know, two shots back. He's got two five fives coming up and he is on fire. And the leader is leaking oil. Fuck. Yeah, let's go. You know what I mean? Exactly. Yeah.

Okay. All right. So you're on Bryson too, and I think both of us would endorse him kind of down to 25-1. Do you want to do your quick – because you mentioned Xander and Louie. Do you want to do your quick Louie or Xander thing? Because those weren't guys that –

I just jumped off to me, like jumped off the page to me. Not so because I wasn't interested in, but more so just so heavy on Brooks and Bryce it for me. What are you, what are you kind of feeling with Louie and Xander this week that drew you to them? So with Louie, it's just, I mean, the guy is just so fucking, he's just so money this year. Like he it's in, he's,

so money and he's doing it like when he first started doing it we're like man it's weird that he's doing it with his putter but he's just kept it up and that's something i feel like he's put a lot of time into and that man needed a week or two off man i mean he the guy played fucking tpc twin city like which he normally doesn't play he played so many rounds of golf this is a guy we used to be scared of that we'd wake up at and it would be 6 35 in the morning we'd see a wd after the after the lineup's locked you know what i mean like yeah with us with a sketchy back

Really? I mean, it's narrative street, right? I mean, Finau won this past week. Why can't Louis win this week? The guy has been so fucking close. And it's funny. Like, if you watch his interviews and how he's handling people, at first he was still smiling and like, okay, always a bridesmaid, ha, ha, ha. And he seems to be more and more fucking irritated by it, by the week that he's not actually winning. So, I mean, look, in a field like this, that's why if I think the course is going to play hard, then I think Louis is a great guy for that.

He's a guy who's grinding out the pars. His swing looks like a robotic swing that tests irons. It just does. It's the same swing every time until late, maybe on Sunday, and then he duck hooks one. But other than that, dude, I mean, so it's funny. I bet him at 28 to 1 this morning because I was afraid it was going to move because that's always where I think, well, I'm on it. Everybody's going to be on it. And it actually went the other way. It went to 33. So I threw another half a unit on it at 33 to 1. 33.

I like it. So you doubled down a little bit. Yeah, doubled down a little bit. And then as far as Xander goes, it's just, like you said, I mean, he shot 62. He just won a gold medal. He's great on bent greens. He came in second in Shadow Creek, somehow lost to Jason Gocrack. Like, it's...

Yeah. One, one, uh, consumer Gusecki too is another Fasio. Yeah. Yeah. It just won a gold medal on the same type of course. Like, Hey man, I mean, and so my biggest beef was Xander all the time was where he was always priced at. I was like, how is he ahead of this guy? He hasn't won. That was always my biggest value with him. And fucking Jeff used to get so irritated with me about it.

And it's like, listen, I don't not like Xander. I just don't like the price. Like, I just, I don't, I don't think is value there. Like whatever. Like, so I'm fine with them at, you know, 20 to yeah. Yeah. I can see the 22 to one on one spot. So I'm fine with him there too. But like, listen, like I said, 225 to one, I think I'm going to join you on Brooks. I think I'm going to join you on Brooks and whatever. I got Bryson past that. So really I got, I got room for a little more.

Here's the thing with Brooks. It's not like a... People aren't into it this week is the vibe that I'm just getting. And I love it. I don't know, man. I don't think that he...

Brooks had one kind of weak-ass win in Phoenix this year. He's not content with that shit. It's just 250 days until the Masters. Do we really think he's just going to go quietly into the night? I don't know, man. I think people...

I was looking at the early ownership stuff and I know it's going to change a ton, but Brooks was the guy that was like 5%. I saw that. I saw that too. I saw that too. And you know, what's funny was I speak to speak was down to like, whatever, seven, I know, whatever, like, well, like I'm sure you use the same side I use, right? Like everybody uses the same goddamn one. And so it was like, man, like, are they really factoring in his bad Sunday that bad? Like, even if, even if I don't like him, bet him outright. I'm like, man, if I can, if you can get leverage on the field with Brooks and fucking speak that under,

7%, 8%. I'm up every week for that. Every week, I'll take that. Before we jump into the next year, I'll just...

My buddy John, who's PGA Town on Twitter, he talks about the term Kisnering. We literally just saw it. So I'll give him the shout out on that one where he was like, Kisner shoots a 79 on Memphis. It completely jukes his stats to the point where you look at his stats at the end of the week and it's like minus six strokes on approach. And, you know, he's 60 or 50 to one or whatever instead of maybe he would be 30 to one at the wind of championship. Because, I mean, it changes so...

like speed just for context speed. I ran a model before the tournament ended and speed was like seventh. He dropped to like 25th after that's after that, after that one Sunday round. So it's like, so it's like the recency bias and prisoner of the moment kind of thinking that will lead us to like, these guys suck if they had a bad round. I mean, you,

You play golf. I play golf. If it gets off the rails quickly, like it's, it gets off the rails. Yeah. That's it. Rest of the round is just more beers and fuck it. Like, whatever. I'll shoot. I'll shoot. I'll shoot today. I'll enjoy being out with my boys. Exactly. Exactly. So I think, I think just like in a betting market, I like Brooks and the DFS context as well with speed too. I think like you, there might be a, uh, an ability to capitalize on some recency buys from their Sunday rounds, but,

Let's get into some of these guys closer into the 30s and the 40s. We got Scheffler and Finau and Paul Casey and Cantlay and Harris English and Anser and Berger, Hovland, Webb Simpson, Shane Lowry, Corey Connors, Hideki. Any of those guys in that 25 to 50 range that have your attention?

Yeah, so I was going to ask you about Deki. Okay. Because I have a hard time getting a read on that dude. And it's because it's just like everybody else when he first came up, he was like the stat god, right? So everybody had him in DFS. He'd never come through. And it took me years to finally quit him. And then he wins the fucking Masters. But I mean, so I have a bet already on Burns. I have no statistical backup for this whatsoever. Not zero. Like other than the fact that when I watch him golf,

He's turning into a killer type. I really believe he is. He's long off the tee. He seems focused. His stupid mustache aside, I like watching the kid play, and I think he can win in a field like this. Hard or an easy course. He's a guy who I think can grind out a win or win a birdie fest.

I mean, I didn't really find anything as far as like stats to back it up with. His stats are good. His stats are good. Lately, but as far as like Fazio courses or anything like that, I'm like, yeah, fine, whatever it is. But like, I feel like he's a different golfer now too. Like he's, he's, he's going to be,

He's a young gun, too, man. How old is that kid? Like 23, if that? Yeah, something like that. 23 or 24. He's a young dude, man. And he's coming into his own, and he really should have won twice this past year. Or did he win twice? No, he only won once. He won once, but he was, I think... At the Genesis, right? Yeah, I don't remember the stat. I think he's been in more final pairings than any other player this year. Yeah, that's a dude who I think could break through at a course like this. I'm completely off the web. And answer...

I don't know. He's not going to win again, but dude, I mean, wait, he came in fucking second at quail, like at 50 to one. I got to, I think I, what did I get? I got to find it in my chicken scratches. I got to get on top 10 at like, I don't know, like plus 220 or something like that. I,

And I was like, I'll take that all day. Like, give me a top 10 on answer. Like that's a guy who shows up at courses. It doesn't matter. Long, short, whatever. Just came off his first win. Good course history. As far as like correlating courses, I love answer at a top 10. Not an outright though. The only one, I mean, so I got Louie obviously at 33 and then I got Burns at 50. Other than that, I left everybody else alone.

Okay. Interesting. So you got Burns at 50. The guy that I was... So there's two guys in this. One guy that I bet already. So I actually went with Paul Casey here. And I got Paul Casey at 40 to 1. I think he's underpriced in DraftKings, in my opinion, again. He gained...

Maybe I'm getting a little too ambitious with this, like, just take awesome ball strikers coming off bad putting weeks. But the dude gained 8.7 strokes ball striking last week and lost 10.1 strokes short game in putting. He has been so...

for such a long time now. And I bet him at every major. So only time I bet him four times this year was at every major. But like I said, I think par five length off the tee and kind of mid to long iron plays is really the name of the game here. And the only guys that are top 20 and all those things, it's Casey, Rom, Kokrak, and interestingly enough, Charlie Hoffman. He's

He sees Casey's up there with them, huh? Casey's up there. Casey's long off the tee too. Like that's the thing. And I saw it in person too. He's, he's long off the sea and, and I don't, I don't know what it is about him, but he obviously is not like an imposing dude. He's got those big forearms, but yeah, dude, Casey gets it out there and he's unbelievable on Fazio courses. He went 12th, fifth and fourth at Quail Hollow. Obviously he contended for a medal at the Olympics. I just think he's a downright stud and I think he's going to love this place.

and I think he could win. It's just you're preying on the putter. The putter. The putter. So hard when you have money on Casey, bro. You know. It's a four-foot putt, and you are not like, he's definitely going to make this. You're like, fuck, he better make this four-foot putt, and you're just sweating. He is a very uncomfortable person to bat.

I feel like that's baked into the number though, because like, because he's like the second best iron player in the world now at this point over a large sample size. So you're right. And it like, it, it, it is what it is with the dude. And, but he did just gain set. It's so weird with him. He gained seven strokes putting a week ago in Memphis. So he paired his best putting week with his worst ball striking week. And then he has an unbelievable ball strike and we even pairs it with the terrible putting week.

So maybe it all evens out this week. Maybe it evens out, right? Wada finds its level. So I don't hate it. I'm not going to bet it. But I mean, with those stats that you gave me, though, I'll have to look at what his top 10 number is because the top 20 market this week is kind of weak. It's kind of soft, yeah. Yeah, kind of soft. The guys that I want to bring up that I'm kind of interested in your opinion, what do you think about Hovland here?

So to be fair, he just broke a club and that always makes me happy. And I always, that always boosts a golfer in my, in my brain. So he, man, like he,

So I was all over him this year, a bunch. And it's like, cause it's like, I don't want to miss it because he's going to win. Like he's going to win. Like, like it Conger. He did great. Like, I still remember that fucking, that three wood chip out of the bushes. It was on a, whatever that last path five is. I don't know what the fuck a hole is, but, but he is like in the brush, takes the three wood out and like basically putts it out of there. And I'm like, all right. And shock game has really improved. Kid hits it a mile. Great fucking great ball striker. He's somebody who I will watch to see how he gets off to a stat. I have him as first round leader.

Okay. I just worry about four days with him with, I feel like, I feel like he hasn't put four great rounds or even good rounds together recently. Like, I don't know. No, he has it. You're right. He struggled. He struggled to put four rounds together. I think he's,

The ball striking's there. It hasn't left. It was there at Liberty National. It actually got a little better at Liberty National. The reason he hasn't done anything is because the short game and putting's been shit. He also won on the European Tour a month and a half ago, and it might as well just not have happened because it's not going to show up at Tennessee National. He's the guy I'm...

I keep kind of going back on fourth and because I think it is a perfect course for Hovland and Feinberg was telling me he could get a 40 on him for me. So 40. Yeah. I know. And how stupid is this by the way? Like seven fucking points makes a difference. Like I yell at myself about that shit all the time. I'm like, Oh, Oh, way to go asshole. Like you didn't take it. Cause fucking, it was three points worse than you. Your stupid brain didn't want to take like, that's the, that's the other thing. It's not, it's only a bad number.

If it fucking loses, I don't give a shit what number it is. If it hits, you're good. Like, I don't know, whatever. If, if, if Hovland and, and Finau hit him back to back weeks, my buddy Jeff will just go into cardiac arrest. He will. Cause what? Cause what? So here's the deal too. Here's what I've been doing over the last month. So I listened to your preview show and I'll go back. What I've been doing is I've been going back and listening to whatever I listened to, like yours. I'll go listen to, um, the, the,

the betting show from Feinberg and, uh, and Mayo. Yeah. And so I will typically only listen to them pre pre-tournament, but if I miss it, I'll go back. I listened to him on Fridays to see what their process was and to see what my process was and to see if I missed anything. Right. Because I just, I was getting so polluted with so much fucking information. I was just like, Oh, it's hard, man. Yeah. I completely relate to what you're saying. You just get overloaded and Feinberg. Was he bad all the time? He does the, uh,

Hovland by three. Yeah. The exotic, exotic. I love it too. I love that bet. Yeah. He will absolutely. And then Jesus, can you imagine then, then he's going to put all his money that the charge is going to win the fucking. Cause he's going to be like, there's no way it's not my year. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, like, yeah, I think Hoblet, he's interesting. I think we kind of talked about the number. It's kind of number depended a little bit with me once you get into all these guys that are in the 30s and 40s. But the only moves that I've actually made is...

is Bryson and Brooks are my two bets. And once we kind of get in a little bit, I'm probably going to add somebody in here, but once we get into like some of these guys, you mentioned Burns and the, would you say 60 on Burns? No, I got a 50 on Burns. Okay. So you mentioned Burns at 50. What about some of these guys? Once you get into the sixties, like, like a Neiman at 60 or a Sung J or Russell Henley or a Keegan or,

or a co-crack, or any of these guys getting up to the 100-to-1 mark? So I like Sanjay. I feel like everybody's forgotten about Sanjay, and he's actually been playing pretty well lately. Yeah, he has been. And so I could get him at a 66-to-1. I have a question mark next to him as well. I got four guys with question marks. Okay, we can run through all of them. Yeah, so I think we've already hit three of them. Sanjay's the third. And 66, for me, is like...

really tempting. The only problem is, is like, so Steve calls him the knucklehead because he always does something that's like, what the fuck are you thinking? Like, what are you thinking? And, but man, like he plays well on bent. I actually, I think I like it better on Bermuda or is it? Yeah. Bermuda is like the one that everyone loves him on, but I think you can get like a pretty nice discount on him sometimes when he's not on Bermuda. Yeah.

Yeah, 66. Like, I mean, he's got just as good a shot as fucking Barnes to win this goddamn thing. And you're getting 16 more. Like, yeah, I don't hate Sanjay at 66. And Keegan's my fucking boy, man. Like, that's the guy I beat the drum for. The England cat. Yeah, man. He's, dude, 100 to fucking one.

101 on my book. I'd snap at that. I'd fucking give it to him. Dude, mid to long irons, right? We're thinking that's... Even if it plays easy, the length of the course, we're going to have mid to long irons in. Fucking accurate as shit with those. Fine off the fucking box. Can't putt worth a fucking lick, but that's even improved this year. Like,

You could do a hell of a lot worse at 100 to 1. If I could throw 20 bucks on that, you know, I mean, don't go nuts. You know what I mean? Still geeking. But man, when I had him outright, when he came in second or whatever, oh, fuck, he lost to Burns, didn't he? Didn't he lose to Burns that week? Yeah, Valspar. Yeah, Valspar. Yeah, that was great. I had him outright. I had him first round leader, though, so that's off in the blow. But yeah, I mean, that's a guy. He's a... I love the way... I just... I like the way he plays. I really just wish he could get over whatever that mental...

hump is for him with the fucking putting just stay in there stop stepping out like i feel like that fucks with him like just stop shimmying in and out man just get up hit the ball and move on yeah i bet keegan last week at 140 to one so he he's he's gone down a little bit but i mean he was relevant uh last week on the back nine like i i had that 140 to one ticket and there was there

There was a moment there. He was within two for a little bit, and he was within three for pretty much the entire holes seven through eight, or seven through 13. And then the one time they showed him on the podcast, it was him missing a five-foot putt. And I was like, okay, that's the end of Keegan. Yeah, it was one time they showed him. And that's the thing that sucks about the horrific golf coverage that we get on a weekly basis. We can do a whole pod about that. You know it's either...

Ooh, excuse me. Something really good or something really bad that's about to happen to your guy. When your guy flashes, he's like, oh no, like, please God, don't let water be in the picture. Like, you know, your guy's about to get in, go in the water. So. And they do, they do such a bad job of the playoffs, the cut line. They prop the FedEx cup out to be this thing that everyone's supposed to care so much about. And then you actually have like interesting storylines about guys that are on the bubble where,

like you'll hear it was like Seamus power, like needs to par the last 18 hole eight, that par the last hole to get into the next round of the FedExCup playoffs. And then they're like, they show the update standing. And it's like, unfortunately Seamus power bogeyed the 18th hole and now fills into playoffs. It's like, all right, well, cool. Like that would have been cool to watch Seamus power play that hole. Yeah, exactly. I mean, please give me more FaceTime with fucking Faldo and Nance. That's what I want to see or whatever fucking CEO sponsor is. I get you have to,

do it a certain amount, but Christ me and get that shit out of the way early. Like the thing that drives me nuts is like, they have to know that the majority of people watch it, especially maybe not this particularly because it's the playoffs, but like we're talking about some of the false wing garbage events that we get excited about and cover and bet on.

How many people other than degenerates are actually watching this shit? Like, you've got to cater to your main audience. That has to be one of this. Like, it's insane. They're so tone deaf. So tone deaf.

Yeah. I think I always keep like trying to remember. It's like, like my dad who he's like 65 and he just CBS guy, like just plopped out on the couch and like watch the golf coverage. Like he doesn't know about gambling. He doesn't care about anything else. And it's just like, that I guess is still the majority of the people that watch golf, even though it seems like our kind of

corner of the world is kind of on the upswing with the whole betting and gambling piece. It's still the majority of the guys are like, they want to see Phil walk up the fairway instead of, you know, see like Will Zalatouris go make a putt to get in the top 10. Like, I guess that's just still how it is. No, it's so insane. Baseball is the same way. It's like, Jesus Christ, guys. Like, come on.

I like all the old man sports other than football, I guess. Fucking hockey, baseball, and golf. Let's say, man. Other than football. Yeah. Well, hopefully we get some improvements down the stretch. Yeah, man. I think our generation that's coming up, I think you're probably younger than I am, but this, whatever, call it 20-year gap of people who are coming up now.

League of Life sports betting, DFS, all that type of shit. It can only grow the sport. And the more younger informed voices that are entertaining that we have, the better shot we have to grow the game and to get it, you know, to get the staunchy old fucking white guys at the PGA to fucking listen to us and cater to what will end up making them more money if they can see the forest through the trees. You know what I mean?

Completely. And I promise we'll get it back on track after this. But what was so interesting to me about Liberty National and the Northern Trust when I was there was, and I got to talk to a bunch of these guys because one or two of the guys are big listeners in the show, but the way DraftKings...

had such a crazy setup there. And they like flew all these guys out there for this contest. And like Reed Fowler was interviewing them. And they had like, they had like a sick, the DraftKings had like a sicker set and a Teta, a sicker tent too, than like some of the other big sponsors. So I think that's probably with the amount of money that some of these sports books have and you see Spieth,

Does the partnership with FanDuel now and Bryson is with DraftKings and stuff like that. I think it's kind of, we're going to be more conscious of betting and DFS, which kind of, if you have a more betting and DFS conscious broadcast, that means showing more golf shots.

Because we're the guys that are grinding out guys making the cut and grinding out guys that are like in T28 right now. And so if we can like get that to be a little bit more conscious and in the mainstream, I think that's going to lead to broadcasts that are more interesting, at least for us.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, who does the PGA think else is buying the PGA tour gold or whatever the fuck we pay for? Yeah. So I can watch fucking Thursday and Friday golf. Like that's not your fucking, that's not your 65 year old grandfather or father who's sitting on the fucking couch and watching golf. Like I'm watching that shit at work. Like I have one of my three monitors up playing golf on Thursday or Friday. You know what I mean? And like they'll, they'll get there. I hope they'll fucking get there. I don't know. We'll see.

All right. Well, let's get back to some of these dudes. Did we cover everyone you wanted to cover before we talk about some long shots? Tell me what your thoughts on Dekia. I like Dekia this week. I don't know what happened with his irons. He lost like... He had a terrible iron week, which is really strange for Dekia. And again, it's like...

Liberty national gave us some weird stats. There were some Rory had the same thing too. And unfortunately I only got to watch like a lot of Xander and JT in person. So it was hard for me to like get a sense on some of the other guys, but there were a lot of weird numbers at Liberty national. And I think that some of the stuff from that course, just from being there for two days, like any course where you have cam Smith shooting a 60 and Jordan speed shooting a 72 in the same day,

there's some weird stuff going on with that course. The players still don't like it. There's a lot of opportunities to go crazy low if you're running hot and then a lot of opportunities to shoot some giant numbers if you're running low. So I'm willing to not put

a tremendous amount of stock into, and it's part of my Brooks argument too. I'm not, I'm willing to not put a tremendous amount of stock into some of the numbers that we saw from Liberty national. And I look at Decky, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I was talking to one of my buddies about it. And he was like, yeah, Decky lost strokes on approach. He is not lost back to back. Yeah. Like two and a half. Yeah. He never does that back to back. Like, and so that's what I mean. Like, so it's like, man, that number 40, like,

Like, I don't know. Like, and that's the thing. Like I got to watch because I woke up and did three snap bets. And then I saw, by the way, Keegan just dropped the 90 to one as we were talking. Okay. So, you know, and I'll probably sprinkle, like, I won't do too many more long shots in here. Cause in reality, maybe there's, I don't know, two guys who could possibly win.

I think other guys, top 20s, top 10s, things like that. But do I really think Munez is actually going to win when he should have won a couple weeks ago? No. But that guy hangs around all the time. He fucked me out of a top 20 last week when he bogeyed 18. But, I mean, the guy's always around. I mean, those are my long shot guys. I would say Munez, Vegas, I always like to bet on. Long off the tee. I don't know.

I was there when he made that, I don't know, 90-fucking-foot putt on 17 at TPC Sawgrass. And I watched that in person, and I was like, you're my guy from now on forever. I remember that. Yeah, I mean, what do you... You got anybody really long-shot that you think you could actually win? Yeah. I actually... I got two guys that... So one of them, I bet... Now we're kind of talking more in the context of DraftKings and Top20s and whatever and stuff. So...

Mark Leishman's 140 to one, right? Disrespectful. Yeah. And so look, Mark Leishman could finish dead last in this field, but I cannot understand for the life of me why Mark Leishman and the next guy that I'm talking about for that matter as well is priced higher than Matt McNeely and Harold Varner. Cameron Tringali is 65 to one.

in this field. And Mark Leishman is 140 to one. Leishman's won six times. He's won on longer courses with good fields. He won this tournament at Conway farms. That's a Fazio course. He's won at Bay Hill. That's a long course with narrow fairways. He's won at Torrey pines. That's another long course with narrow fairways. And he's coming off a really good iron week. He gained 4.3 strokes on his approach. That's his best iron week ever.

since the Sony opened. So look, he's more risky on DraftKings. He's 6.7. I bet you no one is still going to play him because he's not going to do anything for you in models. But I bet him at 140 to one and he'll be like a main, he'll be in my main GPP lineup. And if he finishes last, he finishes last. But I'd rather take my chance on him than some of these other jabronis. I don't think he deserves this much of a fall from grace. No, I agree. I 100%.

100% agree. And what's funny is we were talking about this last night when we recorded or whatever the fuck I recorded with Steve. This week's all fucked up. And he said something about Leishman. I was like, dude, it's disrespectful. I can't remember what we were talking about. And I was like, he hasn't played that good this year. I was like, ah, I pulled up his shit. And I was like, dude, look, this year he's been fine. It's not that bad. It's not that bad. And I was on him early. I was like, all right, COVID's over. I heard this weird narrative where he couldn't be with his swing coach. And

And all of a sudden, it eased up and he got with a swing coach. I was like, I'm going to start getting down on Leishman now that he's back with a swing coach. And it worked out for me when he won whatever the hell he won, the team event. And then, I don't even fucking remember. Yeah, he won the team event. He finished top five at the Masters. He finished third at the Travelers. So, listen, Mark Leishman should not be double the odds of carrying fucking Tringoli. No, definitely not. Almost triple fucking...

Oh, Jesus Christ. He's below Matt McNeely. He's below Aaron Farner. He's below Keith Mitchell. I'll give you one more, dude. This is another guy that I don't get it, man. And I don't know why this stuff triggers me so much. But why is Max Homa 160 to 1 and 6.4 on DraftKings? Max Homa's priced between Aaron Wise, Chris Kirk, Ryan Palmer, and Keith Mitchell. Homa is so much better than those guys. Oh, absolutely. So much better.

fucking it's not even a conversation his two wins were on Fasio redesigns and he took down a really good field in both of them yeah hell yeah so listen again like I get that he's not gonna do much for you in the model because he's been a little bit too inconsistent recently but these are two guys in home enlistment that are coming off their best ball striking weeks and months and they're

didn't putt well. Homa hit the ball really well at Liberty. He just couldn't buy a putt. He's pretty long off the tee, good mid to long iron. I love him this week. All right. Listen, I can get behind you with Homa. I can definitely get behind you with Homa. I'm interested to hear what you guys talk about with Steve on Homa too because I think – I'll hit him up on it. Yeah. I was so shocked on –

I just, and I was talking to one of my other buddies, Rob, about this too, but it's just like some of these, some of these guys where, you know, it's the flavor of the week stuff with like, you get, you get Keith Mitchell. Yeah.

Yeah, and it's just like, these guys are better than these players. So I don't know, man. I thought Homa and Leishman were the guys that stood out to me the most kind of as the longer shot guys. We can do a Taylor Gooch thing if you want to do a Taylor Gooch thing. Yeah, Gooch, whatever. That's fine. But I mean, I'm just looking at the projected ownership. Holy shit. Dude, he's sub 5% and you got literally Pat Gazire at...

Almost 9%. Old Schwartzel at almost 13. Swofford, maybe that's just a build thing at 10%. Maybe they're just stacking up top. Swofford is going to hit the ball great and he'll pop in the... Yeah, in the model. And it allows people to be flexible up top for DFS. But I mean, yeah. I mean, it's fucking silly. Like, it really is. I mean, he's been inconsistent, but he hasn't been, like, terrible. And I mean, like you said, he won one of the hotter fucking tournaments in the goddamn year.

Yeah. A hundred percent. Nagels is going to love a shitting on all these models. I'm a huge numbers guy. As I know you are, but I'm also a huge common sense guy. And it's like, some of these things are like, this is common sense. Like Max home is better than all of these guys. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, whatever. Like, Holy shit. Like, yeah. Like,

Like, yeah. I mean, sixth at Memorial was his best finish in the last, what, seven? Two missed cuts. And then he started to come back around 25, 40, 51, 47. But who gives a shit? Like, you're right. He's a better player, and he can turn it on. And you want guys with high variance when you're making your bets because you're catching them sleeping, and that's how you make a ton of money at golf. Like, what?

with these outrights, I mean, I feel like everybody's had a pretty decent year picking out rights. I don't know if the community is getting smarter as a whole or what, like a lot of good free info out there. Oh yeah, absolutely. And like, I love doing that. I love doing my first round leaders. I've been getting better, but like what you and Steve do as far as like,

sucking it up and doing like my top 10s and top 20s, expanding that. You look like you're in so much pain. It is, man. Because it's like, because it's not as exciting. But at the same point, I'm like, I'm an in-round matchup. Like, I love in-round matchups. Yeah, those are great.

Like Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I have like 10 to 15 matchups and I don't, I don't bet huge, but I don't bet small either. So it's a good, it's a, it's a good sweat. You know what I mean? Like, and that's where I like to find my edge. Do you do a lot of in-round matchup shit?

Kind of. Yeah. The problem is I've gotten a little bit less off of it because the way that I kind of have my schedule now is like, as soon as I get, I've like kind of staked my claim on what's really helped. Yeah. What's really helped me grow is that I get my shit out really fucking early and people really appreciate that. So what ends up happening is as soon as

this tournament starts, I already have to start kind of doing my stuff for the next one. So I don't do as much kind of in tournament as I was like, but that was kind of what I started with at the beginning. And then like, I never even did outrights at all really until like,

kind of this season was when I really started betting, betting outrights more. So it was because, yeah, I made, I got, I got into it through matchups, but you know, with Twitter, it's like, that's all that people care about. And that's all that people care about in the context of like content and stuff like that too. And so it's like, that's what I'm going to talk about because that's what people care about. Yeah, absolutely. And I need to get better at that. But there are a lot of ways to make money betting golf. Fuck yeah. And that's the thing. Like, listen, like, like,

like, like I said, I feel like it's been a novel. I feel like, like I've hit a bunch. Steve's hit a bunch. You guys have hit a bunch. Fucking Nagel's hit. Nagel's hit a bunch. Like all the guys, you know what I mean? Like everybody's hitting. Like, I feel like I can't go, I can't go a week without somebody who I follow or I know, or I listened to hitting a fucking outright, you know what I mean? So, but like the, the weekend grind is, you know, I equate it to just, that's what it is. It's a fucking grind. And I do it. I,

I go weird. Like, I don't just trust like the fantasy national shit. Like I'm like, I'll literally pull up the round and be like, okay, how do you do it? And I'll go through like, and I'll go through, like, I'll go shot by shot and be like, oh, all right. So he missed that. Let me see. Oh, we missed the six and a half footer. All right. Let me see what his next one was. And like, it's a lot of time.

It's a lot of time. Well, you, you got a fact check because fantasy national will tell you cam Tringala is the second coming of Jack Nicklaus. Yeah. Yeah. You got to fact check some of these things. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, all right, let me see how he actually got there today. Oh, he made fucking, he made nine birdies on fucking 300 feet of putts. Great. All right. Fade tomorrow. You know what I mean? Like that type of shit. Like,

I don't know. But I enjoy the grind of golf. I really do, man. I love it. It's fun to watch. And shit, man, you start getting old like I did. And it's like, what the fuck, man? There's nothing else I can actually go out and compete at other than golf. And I love it. And I love to gamble. Why am I not doing both? And that's it. It's the fucking best. And I think it's going to continue to grow pretty exponentially in the next couple of years. I still think...

If you're new getting into golf content, I still think you're on the earlier, even though it feels like there's so much stuff going on. I still feel like long-term with how much I think this sport is going to grow from a gambling and DFS perspective in the next five years with the legalization and all that. I still think you're like early in the grand scheme of things. I think so too. I mean, and I explained it to a couple of, a couple of guys who worked for me in my office. They're always seeing me watching golf.

and i'm like you guys better on football right like yeah i'm like i'm like bro do you know what a first round leader bet is and i explained to them what it was and what the odds were and they were like holy i was like yeah i was like i'm having fun i was like i'm having fun on thursday in the office i was like you uh you were getting yelled at by me because your numbers aren't where they need to be and you're not watching golf so it's like it's like let's go like

come on. Like, and those guys get into it, man. And like, when you talk to some of these guys who don't bet golf, as far as like a general, like, like point goes, it's like, like, wait a second. You got a, you got a, you got an 80 to one. Like, yeah, I got an 80 to one, like guys who bet baseball, hockey and all that shit. We don't, they don't get that. They don't get the rush of a, if an 80 to one hit a fucking 50 to one hit, like that's a fucking sweat. Yeah.

and we're and we're we're also the only people in the world that will shit on like a five to one bat exactly are you fucking you think i'm gonna fucking take john ron at five to one are you crazy yeah exactly it's it's it's it's fucking crazy well i'm excited buddy for uh not only this tournament but to hear uh your you and steve talk about this tournament a little bit more on uh

When will that come out? Tuesday? This whole week's all fucked up. Today's Tuesday. It'll come out Wednesday morning. Yeah, this will come out Wednesday morning. Yeah, we got your boy Brian on. Yeah, man. He's like, I'm not going to drink too much. I was like, dude, do you, man? If you drink, drink. I was like, drink on my podcast, bro. I was like, I don't want Brian light. Let's go. Yeah. Listen, man, you'll enjoy Brian. He's a character. Yeah, he's a character. Okay. All right. Well, just to recap,

I am in on Brooks at 28, Bryson at 35, Casey at 40, and Leishman at 140. Those are the only bets that I've made. I'm kind of mulling over like Hovland or

or Neiman or maybe Burns, as you mentioned, I've got room for one more. I'm probably leaning towards the 40 on Hovland. Um, but that's probably what's going to be for me. Top 40 wise. I haven't really looked at the numbers yet, but Homa and Leishman for sure. I'll have some exposure to Sung J and then maybe Gooch and Charlie Hoffman's another guy that I liked that we didn't really talk about too much, but what about you?

Yeah. So I'm in on, I think we're going to follow you on Brooks bank. Cause I actually went to 25 to one. So I think as soon as, as soon as we hang up here, when I go rip a cigarette before Brian, Brian doesn't like him. We argued, we argued about it all day. So you're going to get, you're going to get two complete sides of the coin back to back. Yeah. Good, good, good. I like, I like a good argument too. So I think my argument's better for the record. I,

I was like, okay, you want to make me an argument? Let's go. And I kind of say the same thing. Like we were along the same wavelength. Like as far as he didn't give a shit on Sunday, I don't count it. Like you can just see it. So I think I'm going to follow you on that. I already got Usti at 33 Bryson early. I got Burns at 50. I got Keegan at a hundred.

I'm going to think about the 66. Cause that's something I don't have to put a whole bunch of money on. I could throw a fucking 10, 20 bucks on Sanjay. Yeah. You know what I mean? Great. Yeah, he really is. He just scares me so much. Hey,

If I had a 40 to one on Hovland, I might, but I think I want to see how he gets off on Thursday. Um, before I do anything, uh, top twenties, uh, I got three, I got Keegan at plus one 50 with Burns plus one 50 and then Muniz at plus 200. The bastard better make up before he lost me. Um,

And then for top 10, the Mac is pretty soft, but I got Keegan at plus 400. Burns is, you can see who I like. And Burns at plus 300. Well, that's the thing too with me. Like if I like a guy, like I'm going to bet him all different types of ways. And sometimes it's a really good week and sometimes it's a really fucking bad week. Right. But Usti at plus 150 and Xander at plus 120. I feel like on a course like this, just to break Jeff's balls, a no cut event, a fucking plus 150.

plus 120. Like, whatever. That's fine. I'll take that. I only got one matchup. Do you have any matchups yet? Nah, I haven't looked at them yet, but they're a couple. Yeah, I mean, give me yours. So I got one that I bet, and it's Zander over Morikawa at minus 120.

Like give me Xander over, over an Asian Morikawa. And then I had enough of that. I had, this is the one I was thinking. It's funny. It's the guy that you like. So I got Vic over Cam Smith at minus one. And I haven't pulled the trigger on that yet. Just, I just feel like there's going to be a hangover with Smith. Yeah. That was a, I mean, we didn't talk about that playoff, man. That was, that was out of bounds too. I mean, that was,

It wasn't even close. It wasn't even close. I was like, everybody on the box was like, oh yeah, that's OB. That's OB. No one's going to check that one. See it back up. I love that one because I think Vic's going to play really well. Okay, cool. I'll bet that one too. And then first round leaders, I got Spieth 25-1, Hovland 33-1, Keegan and Burns at 50-1, and then Siwu at 80-1.

I love it, buddy. Well, before we get out of here, cause I know you got another podcast to do right now. Yep. Boston capper. Everyone tell everyone where they can find you this week, buddy. So you can find me on Twitter. I'm trying to be more active. Feel free to yell at me to be more active. Uh, the, uh, it's Boston underscore capper on Twitter. Um, you go read my boys, my partners, uh, articles over on sports game on podcast.com. They're free, right? Yeah.

Yep. Free, free shit, man. And, uh, he breaks down everything and then he'll throw out like a bunch of his bets in a second. He does, he does at least two articles a week. I'm going to start writing about DFS again, try to get some place. I think they'll probably be after the fall though. There's no reason to try to compete against football for clicks for DFS shit. Like, you know what I mean? It's, it's going to be the same guys who listened to it. They're going to do it. But yeah,

But yeah, man, that's where you can find me. And we got a Slack channel you can find on the bottom of Steve's thing. That's free too. We got a crazy little community in golf, man. We're almost as big as football and we're throwing all types of bets around. And like, it's a fun little spot to be there. Okay. Well, tell me, let me know about Slack channel after, because Nagel's told me about that too. He said, you guys, you have a Slack channel and it's awesome and everything.

Quick question before we get out of here. Is he, what's his reasoning for no Twitter? I'll ask him this myself because I already mentioned I want to have him on too. But what's his reasoning for no Twitter? Because sometimes I go through the day and I'm like, man, this is the only guy that's doing it right. Yeah.

Yeah. He's so he is doing it right. Right. Because it is like, but I told him like, like, so it used to be stressful for me too. Same reason I'm not on fucking Facebook anymore. Like I can't do Facebook. Like I can't, I just don't do it anymore. I can't do it. Like, so I'll mute certain words. Like that's it. And I never have to hear about the shit I don't want to hear about again. So it's basically like golf, Red Sox, Patriots, Bruins. And that's pretty much the only shit I get on my timeline. And that makes me perfectly fucking happy.

You know what I mean? But like this, some of this stuff gets out of control. I don't know if you get into the top shot and the NFT stuff, but there was a point because the DFS community blends so much with that, that I would get so much of it. And I was like, listen, guys, I I'm fucking 38 years old. I don't understand it. I'm not going to understand it. Like I'm just going to move on.

Yeah. All right, man. Well, thanks for having me on bro. Appreciate it. Any fucking time. I'm sure we'll do it again. You gotta give me Steve's number two. Cause I want to have him on too. I don't want him to feel left out. And thanks for joining me one more time, buddy. And have fun. Have fun with Brian this afternoon. Good luck this week, brother. That's it for the show guys. Thanks to Boston capper. One more time for joining me. Thanks to Roto baller. Thanks to thrive fantasy. And I will be back next Sunday, breaking down Eastlake. Catch you next time.

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