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He's in the same city as me. And then Nick in his urban basement retreat. Nothing urban about it. Do you and Austin actually know where he lives, by the way? Like every week it's something completely different. Every time I listen, like these two idiots have no idea where he actually lives. I just am kind of sweaty. I've been walking back and forth a mile across my community. My golf cart died on me tonight. So that was a good NA work.

No, because Graham's running a boat to the Bahamas. So she has both kids at the house. And I was like, usually it's Graham that knows how to like tow people and stuff. And like, I know how to do it, but I just, anyway, I've knocked on this one door and there was two. Wait, hold on. What did we bypass? What did, what broke down?

I don't know. I like stopped punching this address because I was looking for this like property for my parents. And then when I went to press the gas pedal again, it just didn't work. So I thought it was dead because... Oh, the golf cart. Yeah. And I've been parking in the garage and my mom was like, unplug your golf cart at night because it's burning people's houses down. That and Dicey's. Which isn't real. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. So...

I love my Dyson. Anyway, met a really nice, the first house was scary. I had a bunch of scary dogs. Then I went to a lady's house across the street.

And fortunately she, I was like, Hey, I'm Craig. She's like, I know you are. And I was like, perfect. She was like, uh, probably 73. And she used to have a house near me in the Bahamas and we had no idea, but it was destroyed in Dorian. So I sat on a porch with her for like a half hour. We just told stories about the Bahamas. It was really cute. That was my, my night, my golf cart's still there. Cause I went back about an hour ago and it's just not working. So, um,

Have you been changing the water in it, in the batteries? No, I always forget to do that because when I first bought the golf cart, no one told me that you're supposed to pour water into the batteries, which is still amazing. I've definitely never done that. Are you Wade Perreault? Oh, yeah. No, that's a big thing. Mine works like a champ.

well it won't all of a sudden it just won't work i've had to replace the batteries once because i didn't put water in it for a year you're supposed to do it every six months with distilled water yeah definitely never done that are you i feel like you do a full prank on me but if you want to come do it for me sure no like if you you look at your batteries there's literally a lid that you pop off and you have to water and that's probably what happened to you but um that and then

I just did a podcast that's on the Believe Network with us called It's Complicated. And it's funny because the guy was like, well, Rob was like, do you remember me, Craig? And I was like, yeah, I think we met through like Stassi and Bo. And he's like, oh, we had a night together, Craig. And I was like, oh, really? And he's like, it's right when Bo and Stassi started to date. And then he was like, we were at Belmont and it's a real popular karaoke bar in West Hollywood. And I was like, oh, that's right.

And he's like, they went home and you were just dead set on convincing me that like Stassi and Bo were like, you know, supposed to be together. And he's like, I know Craig, like they are together. Like Bo likes Stassi, Stassi likes Bo. And he's like, and when you passed out on my couch and I was like, Oh wow. That was, I do not miss those days, but he was a great dude. He's an actor and his two co-hosts were great, um,

And I think it'll be a great listen for everyone. It's called It's Complicated, but it's about dating. It's about reality TV, relationships, friends. It was cool.

Oh, that's awesome. Harry's nervous because he's like, wait, do I get to listen to this first? Yeah, no, that's my first thought was going through, but I'm assuming I prayed Nick was on it, or hopefully, Nick, you were on it. No, I was working. Great. That's wonderful to hear. Well, I'll text Braun and make sure that Craig didn't tell too many stories to get us in trouble, but hopefully it went well, Craig. Yeah, it was good. We had a fun lunch together, though.

Yeah, we did have lunch. Austin did come to our lunch. We had a business meeting in Charleston. We're doing some fun stuff down here. I had never been to, what's the restaurant called in the Bennett? I don't know. I actually don't know. I've never been in it before. It was like Gabrielle's or something. Yeah.

So you guys just picked a random spot or you were meeting with someone else? No, no. The people we were meeting with, we were meeting with two other individuals and they decided to meet there. It was a good meeting. We got, you know, can't really talk about it yet, but... We saw a store that we...

We almost are a space that we almost put our store in. And I think they kind of like us, you know, and that we weren't a big enough brand for them. And it's about a quarter of the size of the store that we went with. So that was kind of the last time I think I was on the podcast was actually we were in the store. I think you were in town, too. I think we were open. It was two years ago. Yeah, it was when we were working on it. It was like a week before opening it.

no the place where we we walked by and they're building it out it's i mean it might be a quarter of what our store is greg and uh and looked at it and when we originally inquired they kind of stuck their nose up at us basically being like you guys we don't need you like we won't be that successful so kind of fun to have they said they're just filling it out two years later yeah we were yeah we'll just leave it at that but yes uh there's a

I got a lot of messages too saying happy beer mile day. We are starting to tell people things and not follow through with them is what I'm fearing our people are going to say, which I'm going to blame it all on Jerry. And here's why. Okay, well, hold on. I'll let you talk. We promised everyone.

tour dates and tour city, which we gave them the tour cities. Here we go. Good God. Jerry has not given us. And we told everyone we were going to recommend me and Jerry prevented me from using SDS employees to fill me in Austin. So therefore we had to push, uh,

The beer mile till next week. So both things are Jerry's fault. Let's give the besties the real truth behind it. If they can see the text message groups we have between us, well, us three and Austin and then just me and Austin, you two can never agree on half the shit you guys need to do. So then blame it on everybody else. That's the real issue here.

But yeah, I'm not going to let sewing down South employees go from their normal day job to go film you doing whatever. I don't even know what a beer mile is. Every lap around the track, you get a beer. Like you have to finish a beer before you get to the end of a lap. Okay, what over under would you give it to? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. What are their stipulations behind this? Because I don't think you two would. It's four laps on a normal track.

It's a cool mile lap. Do you have to sprint, though? You're running a mile, and after each mile, you drink a beer, and you chug a beer. You have the whole lap to drink the beer. That's why I need a spotter on me. Super professional. I thought it was you chug it. It's a real sport. Super professional. It's a real sport. A real sport. Yeah. It's on the OJO. So the AeroBrander is 12 minutes.

The over-under is 12 minutes. Per mile? Yeah, no chance. One mile. That's what I said. I said 15 and a half was my over-under.

Yeah. I'm shooting for that one. They would do good on lap one. Lap two, three, and four, they'd be destroyed. Like, zero. I will... You know what? Just for when... You know what? You have no excuse. Well, I'm not in town tomorrow. But tomorrow, you can take... You're going by the story line. Well, Austin's not there. Austin's at Beyonce. He's in Charlotte. That's why he's not here. Look, I can guarantee you two things about Austin right now, Beyonce. Two things. A, he's...

he's definitely not paying attention to the concert he's on his phone checking instagram messages for sure and then two he's trying to make a decision about something and he's spinning his own wheels and he'll be the same spot he was right now that he will be tomorrow like did the guy i love him but he can't make it so it's four hours out into the concert he's gonna be neat okay i finally decided what i was gonna write to that and concert's over

But that's fine. Whenever you're back next week, you can pull employees and you can run this, but it has to be fully documented. I'll come out and film it for you, sure. Well, we need... It would be great that... I get to pick what kind of beer you drink. That's fine if you come. Don't give them like a porter that's like 10% though. Don't have them throwing up after lap one. Yeah.

We'll graduate different beers at every lap. Oh, that's too funny. I love it. And on that note, let's take a quick commercial break and we'll be right back.

after this word from our sponsors. I would like to talk to you about one of our sponsors, Timeline Nutrition, and one product in particular, MitoPure. MitoPure is one of the first products to offer a precise dose of urolithin A to help upgrade your mitochondrial function, help increase cellular energy, and help improve muscle strength and endurance. I've started taking it recently and have started to tell that there is definitely when I work out or I'm active.

But MitoPure does more than just help with my muscles. It can help with health stand as well. I want to be one of those granddads one day that you see in the video of him swinging his grandkid around. I want to rely on myself for as long as I possibly can. One way to think of MitoPure is that they are in your cells, chomping up the damaged mitochondria that makes you feel old and tired and helping to recycle it into new healthy ones.

ones. Mitochondria, our cells' power generators, are one of the key influences in how we age. However, as the years pass, mitochondrial efficiency naturally declines, representing a large gap in the quality of life we expect in our later years and the one we experience.

Taking two soft gels a day for two months and you could see significant improvements in your cellular energy, muscle strength, and endurance. After four months of taking Mito Pure, you might feel yourself getting stronger, recovering faster after a workout, and experiencing less inflammation, all part of your healthier aging routine, which is honestly amazing.

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What I will do though is we've got, we've been telling you guys, we have a stacked list of guests coming up. We do, but I will tell you some Lisa Barlow is going to be on next week. We're really excited from the Salt Lake from housewives of Salt Lake city. I think that's going to be a really fun one. We've got chicks in the office coming on here from barstool. We have Jared Freed is announcing his new Netflix special, which is,

He came on a couple times when we were just starting. Which Craig just literally announced for him. No, no, no. It's been announced. I'm just kidding. I was just kidding. And we've got some athletes, some NFL guys, some actresses. It's going to be a fun fall. Yeah.

I agree. I told Austin while he was at Carolina's training camp tomorrow that he should have brought his mic with him and he could be one of those people just walking around interviewing players. He said he was too scared to do it. He does have his recorder with him, so we're going to have to make him do that. I think that'd be hilarious if he was just Austin Crowe being filmed on the sidelines at Carolina with pillows and beer.

Yeah. Do you have a word for Pills and Beer? Shout out to our friend Will Greer. He's at the Cowboys training camp. Was that today? Does any of this dropping the ball have to do with you being a new father, which congratulations from all the besties and us. Yeah.

I'm not really a new father because I've dealt with you and Austin for quite a while now, and you guys probably prepared me pretty damn well for it. I still... And Nick backs me up, dude. I have not dropped the ball. We are waiting for somebody else who clearly cannot get it through. But, yeah, I mean, I'd say, you know, she's five months old, so... Wait, really? Yeah, dude, last time...

when you honestly when when we came over and with the baby and page was there that was probably two months ago which is crazy yeah it's insane just flies by so no i honestly have to give you an austin prop because if i had to deal with such bs from you two all the time that this would be pretty stressful um in all seriousness it's awesome it's our first little girl um

you're sleeping and not sleeping right now she's in sleep regression so she's back to like through every three or four hours she's waking up and and truthfully it's like it's it was a whole having a wild it's different for everybody but

Yeah, what do you mean she wakes up every three to four hours? Does that mean someone has to wake up with her every three to four hours? Nah, we let her just get up and walk around the house, you know, when she wants it. Every three hours. No, dude, I will say this. Look, I have three sisters and they all have kids, so

And it's so different when you have your own. And like, what I mean by it is like, there's so many things you can, I always have respect for women. Like, you know, and every, you know, there's a lot of women that listen to the podcast and the besties. And I mean, it is so different. And when you actually see firsthand, like your wife go through all of this shit, not only like developing and growing the baby from her,

then like the whole like alexis then she had a c-section and a little different obviously but like then after right i didn't realize there were so many things that happened to women like during it after it like immediately after it and then like all the hormones and all that like

And just trying to be a good partner, man. And you're not sleeping. So at the beginning, we get everybody who has kids listening. I mean, it's like every three hours. But like you feed them when they're first newborn, right? You're feeding and they're up. So like that's like an hour, an hour and a half process to get them back to sleep. And by the time they're back to sleep, they're literally waking back up to feed again. And it is just like over and over and over. Right now she's on like...

three or four hour cycles. So she, and we're pretty, we're pretty strict if you will on the schedule. So yeah, man, it's like she gets up at six, six 30, seven in the morning. And then it's like clockwork four hours, three hours. How long is she awake every three or four hours? Like what is that process? So like, let's just say every morning it's like, we call it daddy daycare. Like let's just say she gets up at seven. So from seven she'll feed, um,

And then she won't go down until a nap now for like nine o'clock. So from seven to nine, she's with me and she used to sleep on me for the nap. And my wife was like, she needs to go back in the snooze now. It's the best time in the world for the babies on you, like to be honest with you. And so now she has to go back in there and then she'll sleep until like 10. And then at 10, it repeats itself again. And then it's like, she's up for an hour, two hours. What about at night? What about prior to 7 a.m.?

Uh, well, like she normally goes to bed at like eight, right? So she's seven 38. So you give her a bath, do the whole thing. And then she was sleeping six, seven, eight, nine hours. And now like today, like literally I can look at the snoo and tell you this. It's so ridiculous. She has more apps on my cell phone than I have.

It's ridiculous. Like she went down at eight o'clock and she got pissed, I guess, and woke up at 845. Put her back down at 914, woke up at 916, slept till... And then she got up at 916, Alexa had to feed her again. She went to bed at 1008 and she's currently sleeping and getting tossed around in her little... Yeah, it was new like as...

like give tell everyone what it's new is and then tell them uh the the con like how much thought they're buying that because yeah it's actually i'm surprised you even know what that shit's about um so everyone having a baby and a lot of my friends they're all discussing snooze yeah it's my conversations in life has drastically changed that sense i mean everybody's situation is different um

Like, I don't know. This is our first, so you buy them. I think they're about $10,000, or you can rent them for like four to six months, which comes up like $700. We actually decided to rent this one. It comes directly from SNU, and we weren't really sure if we were going to have another one or not, so it didn't make sense. If you have two, you basically can rent it. How much is it to buy it? Like $2,000. So you basically can rent it twice before...

it wouldn't pay for itself, right? So, like, we're definitely not, I mean, I'm a twin, so pray to God our next one, if we have one, is twins. But we called for one to three. It came over for me. But, like, it's been great. I mean, the thing, we lock it on a certain level so it can't go too high. Like, I mean, this thing starts tossing them and you think they're going to have brain damage, which is perfectly fine, but I swear by it. It's worked wonders for us. We got to talk about what zone.

It's a bougie-ass bassinet. So, I mean, it basically, you put them in a little sleek sack and they're bundled up and then you strap, you essentially strap your kid in a straitjacket to the clips and this bassinet, you turn it on and you control by a nap. And if the baby cries, it'll start moving faster based on how much the baby's crying, how much the baby's moving and what the baby's doing. And then it'll go up and down to the suits and bags.

Which is like crazy to think that. So are you guys Ferberizing then as well? Ferberizing. So my parents did all of us. My sister, we all know Ferberizing. It's like he's going to rock his baby to sleep. What is a Ferber? No, Ferberizing means you just let the baby cry.

like if it's like the cried out method so we're literally about to hit that stage when we like everyone is different man it's around four to six months when you start yeah so we'll start transitioning her in her room here shortly and out of the zoo um and yeah the cried out we're trying to figure out which one we want to be like the two big things like you'll see this at one point like mom's on call and taking care of babies are like the two big like go-tos for everybody and

You kind of mix them at, pick your elbow. Like we had a nightmare. So two nights, it was that best job ever. I mean, these like,

did he get paid i was like four hundred dollars a night i'm like dude the baby should have sleep the whole time what am i paying you for and the baby slept the worst she's ever slept in her life and the lady was here and i was like yeah this shit ain't working for me like see you later but uh yeah i mean it's it's wild and like truthfully it just it changes everything to a certain extent it's phenomenal having a little girl first is great and i mean truthfully the most fun part of it now she's old enough to like really like

like see your faces and and understand and laugh and giggle and like truly laugh and giggle but like man there is nothing funnier than when your little kid farts and starts pooping and then you have to go train like it is i i swear when we were with craig and page and i don't know what it is i was like i was just waiting for it to be like craig you and page can get go test her on this diaper change out go for it but she she wouldn't do it unfortunately

It would give me nothing better joy than doing that. I think that's something that you really only like with your own kid. I've changed plenty of diapers in my life. I used to babysit. I never changed one before my own kid. It's actually surprising, dude. I'm not trusting you to change diapers before. Seriously. Like, that's not an easy thing. She's been down to the store. She's visited Uncle Craig for a sewing down south party. Went to his house once. So she's getting acclimated to it. Hopefully she can, you know,

retire on pillow money one day we'll see yeah we got a long way to go do you have uh any tips for that first week i'd say because you can read books on like i'm sure there's books on that too but first week because there's nothing that can prepare you i'm sure when they just know i mean this child and you're like oh this is my full responsibility yeah i would yeah i leave the hospital everyone says that's crazy and it was but we were ready because we're there for three days um after the c-section but

Man, my advice for the most part to anybody is everyone's got advice and don't listen to it. Do what works for you because everybody is going to tell you something to do. And I just said don't take advice, but I'd say for guys and for all the moms or moms-to-be, I think the most important thing

that we did Alexis literally walking on steps right now she probably would shake her head like you're full of shit but uh I think the most important thing was for the first like six to eight weeks and everyone's situation is different but um

Every time in the middle of the night, specifically, the baby would get up and Alexis would have to go feed her. We got up and did it together. Every single time, every single feed. You know that's the truth a lot. She's literally walking in the stairs like, fuck you. It's the truth. I think because you're both going through hell. It's a good thing you're going through it, but it's so brutal. The other thing which I think I did okay...

In hindsight, probably could have done a little better. You don't really understand fully what your wife is going through or she's going through. Like, all the hormones and all that stuff. So, like, respecting the wishes of, like, who can come over, like, when they can come over and all that. That stuff probably caused the most problems, more so than anything. Because, like, as a dude, you're like, yeah, it's like my body just went through anything. You know what I mean?

And you're like, come on, do this, do that. Like, yeah. And like, meanwhile, somebody else over here had a kid come out of their botany. Yeah. And they're like, hormones are all over the place. I don't know. I think those are probably the most, just being a good team player, probably the most important things. You'll find out one day. Focus on your wife. Yeah. Dude, the baby's the easiest thing in the world. Like, it can only poop. P-E-E.

Like you can't do it. The hardest part of managing your, and I don't know. That's what everybody says. It's when they hit the three. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's like, there's only so much that can happen. So like you're, you're, that's the hardest part. I believe it's like seeing your wife go through all that stuff, trying to help, but you're also so frustrated because you're so tired that like dumbest little things will set you off. Like, yeah. I mean, and you're sitting there going like, okay. But like I said,

I've dealt with Craig for years now. So like I'm used to these things. And so, man, he's you, you, I got to get him and you unknowingly got, I can't believe I'm about to say this. You unknowingly got me ready for fatherhood. So thank you. I did some patient like trained and tested your patients a decent amount, which you can read about in the book. Actually go read pillow doc. I talked about that earlier on the other podcast too. There's, there's a lot of stuff. Hey, uh, you don't have to get into it because it's personal, but what do you say for people? Do you think,

Couples that are on the rocks. Couples that aren't doing too great. Do you think the answer is to have a baby together? Fuck no. Are you kidding me? Like, honestly, no. It is, like, the...

Yeah, if you want to guarantee not to be together, 100% go out with a kid. People think, you know what? I think what we need is a baby. That's insanity. Yeah, if you're listening and you're in a relationship and that is the process, that's a really good question, Kraken. You think in your mind, well, maybe if we have a kid, she'll stay with me or he'll stay with me. You run the other way. It is never going to get easier. That's crazy. No, God, no.

All right. Well, with that said, thank you for the wise words from our newest dad in the Pills and Beer family. We're going to take a quick commercial break.

I would like to talk to you about one of our sponsors, Timeline Nutrition, and one product in particular, MitoPure. MitoPure is one of the first products to offer a precise dose of urolithin A to help upgrade your mitochondrial function, help increase cellular energy, and help improve muscle strength and endurance. I've started taking it recently and have started to tell that there is definitely one I work out or am active. But MitoPure does more than just help with my muscle health.

It can help with health stand as well. I want to be one of those granddads one day that you see in the video of him swinging his grandkid around. I want to rely on myself for as long as I possibly can. One way to think of MitoPure is that they are in your cells, chomping up the damaged mitochondria that makes you feel old and tired and helping to recycle it into new healthy ones.

ones. Mitochondria, our cells' power generators, are one of the key influences in how we age. However, as the years pass, mitochondrial efficiency naturally declines, representing a large gap in the quality of life we expect in our later years and the one we experience.

Taking two soft gels a day for two months and you could see significant improvements in your cellular energy, muscle strength, and endurance. After four months of taking Mito Pure, you might feel yourself getting stronger, recovering faster after a workout, and experiencing less inflammation, all part of your healthier aging routine, which is honestly amazing.

Timeline is offering 10% off your first order of Mito Pure. Go to timeline.com slash pillows and beer. That's T-I-M-E-L-I-N-E dot com slash pillows and beer. These statements and products have not been evaluated by the Friedenslog administration. These products are not invented by no street pure commercial.

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Get your first month free at greenlight.com slash pod. Greenlight.com slash pod. Welcome back to this very special episode of Pillows and Beer. I am Craig Conover, joined by Jerry Gasolano and Nick Norris. Nick survived the tornado a couple days ago, which is great. Jerry is surviving fatherhood, and I'm just surviving, I guess, which is so funny. Sometimes I do reflect and say...

You know, I'm proud of myself and a lot of stuff that I've accomplished and some changes in my life the last year. But I laugh because I'm like, you have it so easy that you are only having to take care of yourself. It's just, it's funny. Let's talk a little bit about Sowing Down South, just to give you guys some updates. I mean, there's not a ton, I think.

Look, they haven't, and Jerry, you're on for this, they haven't officially announced who's going to be at BravoCon. All I can say, I think it's hopefully okay. If we are there- You might be there. Yeah. Yeah. If we are there, Sewing Down South would be too. So like, yeah, if we're not there, it's not going to be there. But if we are, look forward to seeing-

A new collection by Paige and myself. That's a little tease for the besties. We haven't announced that, but Paige and I designed another collection together. Christmas in July went so well that we will be bringing them to any pop-up stores that we do in the holidays. And we've got some awesome new tumblers, which are only available in store right now, but

Soon enough, they will be on the internet. Come see me in the store. I'm there a lot. We've been announcing the pillow parties. We're actually a little better now. Before it was part of the surprise and the fun and the spontaneity. But I know a lot of you guys have travel plans and schedules based around. So when you're hearing this, we'll be having, we would have already had one. Terry, did you know I'm doing one tomorrow? No.

Yeah, I saw your text and just figured go for it and have fun. What's it like for you to see what a

Like the pillow parties have evolved into after being on tour with each other and doing our pillow party tour, you know, in the company. I'm just so glad that I don't have to truly be there to run the thing anymore. So I'll take all this with you. Like, but it's, it's, it's so it's rewarding. Truthfully, Amanda, I think came down. Didn't she do one this past week? Yeah. You did one on Saturday.

Um, and like, I, you, it's funny cause there's no different than the first day we opened the store to like two years later or however long it's been two and a half years. Like same thing goes through my head as I'm driving down King street, getting ready to come up to the store. It's like,

people are really going to be waiting a lot or like, are we done? Like, is it still going to, you know what I mean? And then like you turn the corner and pull up and there's, you know, a hundred, 200 people a lot. You're like, all right, we got it. Like we got it still. And I think that, uh, like that lets me know we're still hungry. You know, like if you're, if you're, if, if it was the other way around and I was coming up to the store being like, Oh, we know it's going to be packed. We're going to crush it. Like that's not fun anymore. Like we're not on our toes. We're not trying to invent anything different.

and really change what we're doing. And I think that's how companies fail. So honestly, I'm more impressed that you have the stamina to keep doing it. I mean, it's tough, man. It's really tough because it's not just like, it's not like you're just saying hi to people. You're actually having a genuine conversation. You know what I mean? Yeah, I think that's how we differentiate ours from a lot of people, which...

You know, it's funny to digress to what you said a little bit. I get nervous every single time, no matter what. I'm a nervous wreck before and when I'm in the back. And then when I walk out, it's just, it's the same joy as the very first time seeing everyone there and sharing the store with everyone because so many of y'all rooted for us throughout the years, you know, and I know it's a roller coaster, but it really is, um,

You know, you guys are the reasons we're still there. So it's fun every time you walk out and you're all there and I get to share the store with you guys, which I don't know. It's my favorite part is meeting everyone. So Jerry, yeah, Jerry used to, he used to run the point of sale system. He used to keep the music, you know, going like we'd have some random person taking pictures that worked at the store, like the train on the track. Was it just you two?

Oh man. Well, thanks. Cause this idiot decided that this didn't announce on, was it on the, what did you do? You did on Instagram. You're just like, Oh, we're in your pillow part. This is pre COVID. So, um, but talking about, I'll never forget the very first one. I think Craig like got super nervous and, and not to call him out, but like, like went and threw up and then came back out. And I was like, Oh my God, Craig's actually nervous about this. I was like, Oh shit, I hope this goes well. And then it was like, God, that was, that was insane. It was,

eight hours we were there. I mean, it was, it was the one in Delaware. Well, the Edgewater one was, um, seven to eight hours too, but it's been great. And, um, y'all keep coming to visit us and we try to make it fun. And the store, you know, it, we don't have many people, you know, not have a great time. So anytime you see a pillow party, if you're in town, come see us. Um,

And we have some sweet new stuff coming out, dude. Like we, the holiday collection is fire where you create it. Honestly, I don't normally say this or get excited about like designs or flow designs, but there's some, like, I don't know, we can tease it a little bit, Craig. We took a step into specific holidays and I think people are going to be very happy. I don't know. You can kind of talk about that. It's going to be awesome. We talked a lot about it.

During Christmas in July. And then, you know, we're making the candles in Charleston now. So, I mean, there's some really fun stuff to be excited about. Nick's got a question on here. And for people that don't know, Jerry runs a sports marketing firm too out of DC or whatever your status is with that. But, and I don't know, you're, we've talked about your CV on here a ton, but you've done some really cool shit, worked for some really big companies. So why do companies like,

feel like they always have to change something when everything works fine. I mean, shoot, I remember working in a restaurant and like the most popular dish on the menu, the owner would just like take off. Like,

Yeah. I think it's... So for me in sewing down south, like, do you change to evolve or do you, like, change because you're bored or how much change are you comfortable with? I don't think there's a correct answer to it. I think some people feel forced to change to keep up with certain times and changes in culture and things like that, whether it's right or wrong is each business's decision. I can tell you what we do and what sewing down south specifically. I mean, we base everything off analytics, right? So we know...

Pretty down to the number of like how many people are in the store? How many people are online? I mean everything we do is measured right all our ads spend you don't do a crazy amount But we know exactly what's working what's not? And then we take chances on certain products that like maybe Craig wants to do or Amanda really wants to put out there and you know like this whole collegiate all and

I think we try to evolve but stay within who we are. I think that's the problem. It's like people, they evolve because they're like, oh, this company's doing it, this company's doing it, or society's doing this, so we have to do it. And it's like totally outside of their norm and their ethos, and then they go do it, and that's why they fail. But I think we stay true to ourselves. So

I don't see that changing anytime soon. And honestly, probably has to stay stronger than ever because of the growth of the company. We just can't really take the chances to go against what we know works, right? Like, we're not coming out tomorrow with a Soaring Down South vodka brand. Like, that doesn't exactly jive with what we're trying to do here.

Um, but I think you gotta continually try to push and change the change, what you're doing. Otherwise you just fade back in it out of the same old stuff and then your customers aren't going to buy anything new. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm the one, you know, man and Jerry keep me from doing too much, but we have some really fun stuff coming up that, you know, we, we haven't even announced yet. So stay tuned for that. Um,

I, you know, this is funny. And while Elon, I guess in Zuckerberg are actually going to fight. Did you see that coming as being in the sports world, Jerry, or, or do you think it's not going to happen? Nick? I, I need more Nick. He can hop into, I don't know if y'all watch the, like Netflix is so good at their algorithm, but like feeding you the untold stories and like,

Was it Jake Paul? I mean, I'm always like this guy. What a loser. I can't stand this guy. He is a loser. I did watch it. Is it Jake? Which one's the boxer? Is it Jake or Luke? Jake's the boxer. He is a loser. Man, no, but dude's not through that. You watch that and look, they know exactly what they're doing. They're great marketers. But I walked away from it and I'm like, respect. Funny, actually, not to totally change the subject on that, but perfect example of marketing and how well things are done.

on Netflix. I mean, you know I work in sports marketing, right? I specifically would not watch it because I was like, don't really care for Patrick Mahomes. I hate his brother. His wife. Sure, Marcus Mariota, whatever. His wife. Actually, I think his wife's wonderful now after watching Quarterback. So my wife, of all people who never watched a slow ball, kept being like, Jerry, have you watched Quarterback? Have you watched Quarterback? Because I was out of the country for three days. I was like, no, I'm not going to watch a dumbass show.

I came home and I watched it and I was like, nah, shit isn't pretty good. I was like, respect Patrick Mahomes now. His wife isn't that bad. Yeah. She actually is pretty cool. Both of them. Yeah. Yeah. See? And then so it's great. So I, I think. Did you change your opinion on his brother? Because you get so much more context and you get like, like that. I think they killed it. I thought they did a good job with it. I mean, and the fact that like my wife, she literally is like,

who should I be a fan of? And I was like, what? Like, I was like, does it literally make you want to watch football now? And she's like, yeah. And you're talking to a person, me, like I've been very fortunate in the sports world to go to most major events, right? Like you could not pay me enough money to go to a sporting event. Like it lasted the Derby, the Masters,

F1 or Wimbledon, I'll probably go. Or Saratoga, because it's the best. But other than that, I don't care. And she's like, I want to go to a game. I'm like, well, for watching this documentary, it's insanity what they've done. So props to them, man. So did they do too good of a job, though? Because now no one wants to be on it. Nah, bullshit. Somebody always wants to be on it. If you look at the reports, everybody keeps saying no. Yeah, dude, that's just the reports. Don't listen to that stuff. Well, they're asking them in interviews. They're like, no, I'm not doing that.

Yeah, until the Cup. Oh, well, that's because they're not allowed to say. Like, I know golfers that are doing the Netflix show or whatever. They have to deny it. I didn't like it that good, though. See, I didn't like it. As a golf fan, I was like, this doesn't really, like... So, for the average golf fan, I can understand it. But for someone who knows the game, it didn't do anything for me. But, like, it humanized people. And I think that's, like, what everybody always forgets in this world of entertainment and sports. Like, dude, Patrick Marlins at the end of the day...

He's just a normal dude. He's really good at football and makes an ungodly amount of money. And you cannot watch that. Even if I didn't love him before, you come out and go, look how hard he works. And if you don't respect how hard that person works in the craft, but that's what I'm saying. That's why I think people get lost in this stuff. So it's no different than someone running up to... It's like you run up to people and you...

You expect them to sign an autograph or take a picture with you. And it's like, and then people get pissed because they were maybe quote unquote mean to him. It's like, dude, they're just trying to eat lunch or dinner with their family. Granted, they put themselves into the spotlight by being good at golf or football or whatever it is. But like, you can't hate on them because they have boundaries. And what do you say then to guys like Charles who are like, if you don't sign autographs, you're an asshole.

Charles who? Barkley. He goes, unless I'm eating dinner, I will always sign an autograph. Dude, you're talking to like, so, and I've said this, I think on the podcast before. So I've like the single best people I've ever worked with in like any entertainment deal. The bar is Ricky Parker.

We did his Red Bull. He used to drink. I rob you. It doesn't go anymore. But he used to drink out of the Red Bull water bottle and had a Red Bull golf doll. And he got the single greatest I've ever worked with. Like how he signed her is just true to it. Craig is literally justice. I mean, Craig like meaningfully wants to talk to everybody and sign autographs and hang out with people. And I respect the shit out of it because it's so hard. And then after him, like Reggie Bush and like Kalina Williams. But,

And Tom Brady's pretty high up there on doing it. But then I've seen other people, man, where they're just like, they don't even care. And I think that if you're in the public eye,

You should be able to have boundaries and you do owe it like in specific sports like that, right? Like golf wouldn't make all the money they could if these athletes or if these fans didn't go and they didn't buy all the golf shit. Fuck, you didn't have all the money. Like you owe it to them. You owe it to them to at least be courteous. But you also don't owe it to them to be courteous if you're interrupting their dinner like an asshole. Well, that I agree with. There's always boundaries. Yeah.

If I'm seeing him on the street, you shouldn't bash, you know, just push someone away. I get it. If you're having a bad day, you're having a bad day. But some people make it a habit of get away from me. Yeah. Okay. Well, two things. One, we were down with Paulina and Dustin when she filmed her role for that. So it was neat getting to meet them.

like the netflix guys or whoever is cool the page were down there and it was fun to see your friends do what you do like it's funny you see your friends sit in like an interview chair and be like and get ready for it and be like yeah like it's sharing a little bit of your world with them and they're like wait is this what you guys do and they're like yeah yeah anyway that and then oh one time when you just said that nick like coming up to someone on the street no

Time that just popped in my head. I was dating someone and like, you guys don't know who it was. And just, it's not whatever. I remember like she tortured, like we were just always fighting. We were in that like,

part of your relationship where like you're, you know, you probably should break up and we were always fighting. And I remember being outside a restaurant trying to get a table. I was at a popular restaurant in Charleston and someone came up to me and started to ask me questions about like our relationship or something. And that was the hardest time I've ever had where like my brain had zero room in it to talk about like the show or something. But that was the, you know, the only time for me is like fighting with my girlfriend. The third thing was

When you said Alexis wants to watch football now, Paige called me earlier and was like, so me and my mom just watched the Manziel documentary and it was incredible. And I want to watch the ball. So we guys get her to a game. We're all going to get our game, but get her that fun. Well, she loves Ravens games with my family. So she, she loves like, it's like, you know what? I look good in black and purple. So I look good in black and purple. The Manziel documentary is great.

I can't wait to watch it too. Cause he's going to tell the truth about gambling and sports and not, you know, Craig definitely knows I love to game. Craig, you said something earlier. You gotta be careful about how I say this based on obviously the show and everything, but like talking about, it's always fun to see what other people do. Right. Like I talk about like Paulina recording or filming and all that stuff. Like,

like I've been on the other side of it with you guys, right? Like in filming with Southern charm and we filmed so much. And so, you know, I think people don't really understand how much is actually filmed and how much actually makes it on TV. Right. Cause it's so much process of having to edit down hours and hours, hundreds and thousands of hours of filming. And, uh, like truly that's a really fun process to watch and, and be a part of. And like, you know, we filmed a bunch together and Austin as well, but like, like,

It's an art. Like, it really is. I mean, it's reality TV, right? It's unscripted. It's real life. It's happening. So much is happening at the same time that it took so long. There's been probably 10 times I've filmed with you, and then, like, I would leave after the fact and go, that's where he was trying to do it. That's where he was getting to with certain things. And, like, it just...

and it's such a different world. And, and I mean, dude, it's you're filming man. Like it's real life. It's coming at you fast, right? It's not like someone's telling you what to say. And, and next thing you know,

It's truly wild. I know there's Unreal out there. It would be really cool. I don't even think I told you. I love the production side and think that I would be a really good producer. I actually asked our production company if they have a show coming up. If it's a short... No, I'm not going to intern. I'm going to intern.

intern craig longest internship of something ever uh interning on the production side not the the other side but i was like put me on and they were like honestly we kind of like this idea so that would be fun if i went and produced a show i want to do it i want to talk show i think craig would be a killer talk show host yeah that's on the other side talk show host or game shows

A game show host? Yeah. But he'd give everything away for free, so it wouldn't work. Or he'd be like, Oprah, you get a car. You get a car. Literally. You wouldn't...

Yeah, that's true. I do that in the store when I'm there or try to. Yeah, which is why we don't like him. I'm kidding. We love the store. So the football thing, though, the getting paid out, there's actually just to wrap up that. There's a guy that I've met a couple times that he's probably 70, 65, 70. He said the biggest – he played college football and then he played NFL, but he played –

at a Southern school. And he said, Greg, you know the biggest pay cut I ever took in my life? He said, going to the NFL.

that's all you know it's funny to wrap it up we we literally started this entire conversation based off of Elon and Zuckerberg fighting never even said a word about it which it's just brilliant I mean brilliant marketing on their part the whole thing with like you know threads versus I guess we call it Excel it's not Twitter anymore oh it's the dumb whatever speaking of companies changing to change

What everybody thinks, dude. He's going to win. Don't worry. He's too smart. Zuckerberg's going to kick his ass. No. I'm talking about with the X thing, not Twitter. I think Zuckerberg's low-key probably going to win. Well, he's won kickboxing. I think he's been training for a lot longer than anyone realizes. Well, he's won sanctioned – Zuckerberg has won sanctioned kickboxing events.

and like jiu-jitsu tournaments. Well, if you can kickbox, yeah, you can fight. It brings us to our poll of the week, though, which Nick is going to put up for us. And this is going to be funny because I'll touch on it a little bit. It is who would win in a fight between these Bravo cast, but the men on the cast. We'll do the girls another day. It would be the Southern Charm cast, which we're going to say me, Shep, and Austin. Shep is not a fighter.

Austin is probably pretty scrappy, and then I can fight, which isn't a good... But in this scale, you've got Summer House, which is Carl, Kyle, and let's say... I don't know, another reoccurring Summer House guy. Then you have Vanderpump Rules, which is kind of... You've got Jax, Sandoval, Schwartz. Little puppy dog.

And then you got below deck, you know, a bunch of wild yachties. So that's the, I mean, what do you guys think about that? We don't, I think we're right in the middle, middle of the road. You guys just have the size advantage. Like you guys are all like six, five, six, three. I don't think summer. I don't. Yeah. I think we're hard. Yeah. I think us and Vanderpump would be a good match.

somewhere else i just don't think has as many guys so many guys i don't think it would work yeah and then the yachties like i don't know a lot of them are crazy i'm thinking you guys it's like that commercial with the housewife i think you guys would all get your ass kicked by the housewives if you put if you pick like all definitely get worked over that's a great point um all right let's do well we can go over a couple things

I mean, we didn't wait for Austin, but we are two and a half years into this, over 100 episodes and 5 million downloads. Top half percent of all. I can't believe you guys got that far, actually. That's impressive. Honestly, if you would have asked me if these two were going to keep this going, the wheels have definitely come off the track a couple times, and we brought it back. When did we keep them going?

Like when were we like, Hey, we want to take Instagram live to actual. I'll never forget that phone call. Cause I looked at my phone and I was like, what the hell is he calling me? Yeah. I mean, that was November of 2020. And you haven't talked to Jerry. Like why, why were you shocked to get his call? Cause I didn't talk to Jerry since I like just went to see him at the office, you know, just popped in when I was in DC, like,

Right after I graduated or something. Yeah. After he made my mom cry. That's a story for. Yeah. Cause I, that was a, some night we had, but yeah. Yeah. That,

November 2020. Yeah. I don't know. I think you guys are probably doing it for a little bit. And then I was like, yeah, I'll figure it out. Back of my head. I was like, these two idiots are never going to do it. And then you guys kept bothering me. And then Nick had a golf podcast. I was like, dude, can you do this? And he's like, yeah. And then...

it kind of just caught caught fire and wet right we've learned a lot in this time it's been it's been i mean i think the one thing i'm happy about the most is that we control everything so like you know and i think for austin you or for craig and austin um

You guys like it. Like we know what we can't talk about for certain reasons, but no one tells us what we have to talk about or what we have to do or what you have to talk about, what you have to do. And I think that makes it so much more fun. Right. And it's not podcast full of, you know, hawking people's product because they want to come on for an interview and then to do this. You know what I mean? Like it's truly just banter in a good time. I think that's why it's been successful.

Yeah, I mean, I think, like I said, it was so random that he called me and two and a half, over two and a half years later, here we are still going.

i mean yeah i think it's a tentative podcast tour i think it's a great uh you know we've done one yeah so listen to pillows and beer uh wherever podcasts are found buy our merch pillows and beer.com i just saw we had a big day um working on new stuff i know people keep reaching out asking for it

Shop at Sewing Down South. Time out. Craig, we have to like, I can't be on here and you can't not answer one bestie question. You have to answer this first one. No, no, no. I'm good. I normally wouldn't care, but this one is like, I find this a very intriguing question. So you have to bring this up. I have to see how we do.

That's weird.

I found it odd, but wasn't upset because they were all before we ever met and we're in our late 20s now. So whatever happened in high school or college, I don't think should concern either of us. After going on about his past experiences, he said, now you go.

This made me super uncomfortable because although I wasn't bothered hearing about his past partners, the idea of talking about mine with my boyfriend felt icky. I politely refused and basically said, no, thanks. Nothing really stands out anyway. He kept pushing and pushing, eventually getting upset that I wouldn't share anything and said, I just don't want there to be any surprises between us. And you've surprised me before.

Background. I've only slept with one other guy and it was in high school. But when I first met my boyfriend, I lied and told him I was a virgin because I was dumb and embarrassed. You shouldn't have to do that. But anyway, years into our relationship, he found out the truth by going through my phone, literally saw text from 2013. That's a huge red flag. I'm super sensitive about that whole experience and he's forgiven me for lying in the first place. Shouldn't have to at all. It felt so manipulative.

No. No.

It's just, you need to leave this person. And also, I don't even have to tell you, and we'll hear what Nick and Jerry would say, because you literally write it in your question. It says a huge red flag, but we've been together for so long. I know it sucks. I know it doesn't want to feel like you wasted so much time with someone, but don't waste any more time with them. What do you guys think? Nick, fire away, bud.

I mean, you made us read it. I mean, for the most part, I'm a very open person. So I've had those conversations before with like girls, but at the same time, I'm not forcing them to tell me the same thing. Yeah. I would never go through someone's phone. When you're answered, though, you're out an easy conversation. You know what I mean? So come on, dude. Like, you know what I mean? No, you're trying to hotline me.

Yeah, you don't even know Jerry. Oh, I didn't tell Jerry what happened to me. Yeah, well, that's because we're waiting for a time when it's me, you and Austin. Yeah, don't tell me. Jerry doesn't get special. But on the podcast. It's crazy. I think it's. Well, I mean, yeah, I. Yeah, I break up with her. Yeah, he's a break out with him. He's an insecure, consoling douchebag. Insecure.

And if you ever feel like the need that you have to go through your significant other's text messages, like then you don't trust them. It doesn't even like, it's just also saying, I don't want to be surprised again. Like, all right, I'm not going to confuse him. I'm not going to accuse him of doing anything, but like,

What why is he accusing you like that's a lot of times from a guilty conscience? Why is he bragging? I think it's weird as shit that he's bragging about. It's called insecurity. Yeah. Hey, man, I'll bang 50 girls like how many guys do you bang? Oh, yeah. What happens that don't talk? See, I don't care. See, those conversations don't bother me, though.

Yeah, but he clearly would bother him because what he's doing is trying to assert himself over her. It's super bizarre.

No, he's just going through the phone thing. The moment that I saw that, I would be like, take the specifics out of this, the character traits that pretty much are an objective observation. Like there are character traits that you have described. You shouldn't be whistling with those character traits. That's just it. Those are the, the red flags. I mean, the specifics are bad, but the, the, the,

of this guy's personality are, you just seem like you're better than them. Craig said everything he needed to know, man. When she, you said, it seems like the main reason she's staying together is because they've been together for so long, which is a horrible,

Yes. There are so many people out there like that. Who said literally saw a text in 2013? Who the fuck keeps 2000? That's come on. My phone auto delete. Here's another, here's another, and I hope this isn't the case.

But if you've been together six years and this is just now happening, like something is happening with that guy. He's doing something. Yeah, he cheated or something. Yeah. Oh, interesting. Wait, wait. Oh, interesting. You're saying because he just started doing it? Yeah, all of this could have happened in the first two years. Like if you are insecure about your life. These are conversations you have within that first year. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

he didn't wait six years to bring up your sexual history he didn't wait six years to say you know what like I just don't want to be surprised to or like he didn't wait six that's him accusing you of doing shit because something's going on with him and that's why he looked through her phone too right like well no that was a couple no no he said she said he did that like three years ago yeah

But yeah, these are all conversations. Craig's right. I didn't even think of that because I'm thinking from like short term. These are all like first year conversations. Like these are all like things you like talk about. If you're talking about, you don't bring them up like 10 years into it. It would happen early. So, well, we hope we wish you the best and you're, you're, you're going to do just fine. You're in the clan. Break up with him. You're in the group of lasties. We've got the best, best friend group in the world. And it's single. Give him a call. That's true. Call Nick.

Say I didn't. But yeah, I look, thank you everyone for listening to this episode of pillows and beer. We hope Austin's dancing his butt off to single ladies and follow us pillows and beer on Instagram, on all the socials, follow me, Nick and Jerry on all the socials, sewing down South on all the socials, eat at carriage house. If you want in New York city.

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