One of the "Good Guys" w/ Ben Soffer
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FaceTiming Josh. Austin needs to get in on that circle. Yeah, I need him. He'd love him. He's great. He's the best. Also the creator of Sprit Society, which I might be joining the home soon, but that's...

you know, to find out. But yeah, that's what else do you do, Ben? Other than besides running alcohol companies and do all these things. I do. I do a lot. I do a lot. And it's great to be here. Pillows and beer. What a fantastic podcast. Pleasure of playing a nice round of golf yesterday to where I got to meet Austin. I got to watch him shoot two over on the back nine, which was was quite impressive. Yeah. Let me just say to that man yesterday.

history was awesome i don't know what it was but um when i got off the golf course you know and i was calling up people and i was just like i had so much fun on the golf course today you know it was just

Easy breezy, you know, as it should be. Right. But like it was so fun. And you did mention the fact that I did shoot like a two over in the back nine. But on the front nine, I didn't even keep track. Right. So I was, you know, shooting doubles and, you know, whatever. So it had nothing to do with the fact that I I played.

like particularly well in the back nine. It was just a great day. It was a great foursome. It was a great day. I hadn't been outside the house feeling decently well in like eight, eight days I counted. And so that was like the first day out. I felt good. The sun was shining. It was just, it was just a great day on the course. So thank you both for

you know, being a part of that. That was, um, it was a perfect day. It was my first time in South Carolina. Weather was perfect, right? Like low seventies. And honestly, it's,

Craig and I were ham and egging it. We were taking turns playing well, but we had some really great moments. Craig had a nice 30-foot birdie chip in. Did you putt that? Well, I putted one in, and then I hit the flag on one. And then I had that birdie on that par 5 where I stuck it to like a foot. Right. And you, Austin, had a birdie where you stuck it on a par 4 to a foot. So really, you should be on the tour. That's sort of what I'm saying here, like,

with our powers combined. That's what Charleston. Okay. Let me, I just got to make fun of myself for a second.

and not to make this about me my brain overthinks stuff so well that like during that introduction i was like oh god does ben not like me anymore you're crazy the way that that's what my brain is cycling through right now i didn't know that you were a severe overthinker until yesterday we're we're on the golf course and there's a group behind us

and they haven't okay okay but this group behind us was but they haven't said anything to us and every minute it's like oh should we let them play through oh i think they want to play through oh should we let them play through and it's like no craig they shouldn't play through they didn't ask and i don't want them to write these old bastards

can wait their turn and let us play. Like if they wanna ask to play through, I'm all for letting people play through. Of course. - Yeah, it became an issue for like- - But it became a thing, an issue with yourself. You were fighting with yourself. You're like, "They should play through. Should they play through? Should they play through?" No. - Austin has to deal. And on top of that, I'm hyper aware in social situations. Like just-

that we they weren't even talking to us. Can you stop? It was their body language. It was their body language. It was our perception. I like I was there with you, Craig. I'm like a big over. I was a big overstressor. And then I started to realize half the situations

I create in my brain. That is true. Right. I mean, there's a, there's a, you know, there's a balance there. Yeah. Like we did. Yes. His body language was of someone who could have been annoyed. But then when the starter came, he's like, I think they're just like enjoying the day. Yeah. Yeah. They were happy to be. But.

I just don't run up on people like that. Like I was taught when I was little, don't run up on people. Yeah. Spritz. Yeah. I'm getting ready for my weekend at Kiowa. So yeah, I'm getting ready. I'm getting like, let me just tell you too, man, that yesterday. So I brought out a bunch of drop offs and obviously Ben brought out a bunch of spritzes and I was drinking. Right. And as I said, I,

hadn't been out in eight days. I hadn't drank in eight days. I drank on Saturday because I was like, dude, go out to lunch and see if it's normal. I went out to lunch. I had a drink at lunch and I went right, right, right back home to bed. Right. So it was not normal. So yesterday was the first time. And I had like six to eight drinks and I just felt fantastic. Like I didn't feel drunk. I didn't feel like I just felt fantastic.

fantastic so whatever combination that i did of seltzer and beer was like perfect for me well we kind of did it on our cart too um we had like trap hop and ben looked at me and he was like if i was a big beer guy this would be like my beer and i was like yeah thanks buddy i i loved it i thought it tasted great like really really good and for the for anybody that hasn't tried it yet they they should definitely try and look i'll just throw it in there it was my like

it was a fun little cheat day where we just like sampled a bunch of stuff like this were great and we had like i tried this like big big boy beer

And I thought Austin would be, I was like, Austin, you got to try this. Yeah, obviously, Craig, everyone has. And I'm like, all right. It's a very famous beer in Charlotte from Stickermore. Well, you're going to have to make it. Yeah, I mean, I'm jealous. I almost offered to drive you out there because I was like, fuck, Ben gets to go to Kiowa for three, four days.

Dude, yes. So Ben is in town because he's going to Kiowa to have just a guy's weekend. And it's something that I think that living here and growing up there, I've taken Kiowa for granted, right? Because I've never done like a guy's golf trip to Kiowa. And like, why the hell wouldn't we? It is world-class golf, right? Yeah, you have a house there. Yeah.

I used to have a house or my parents used to have a house. He just forgot during COVID that he had a house in Keough. And we were playing. That would have been a pretty good place to spend COVID. My parents did basically. Well, we were playing golf. I remember it was me, you and like Garbs and Yarborough. And he was like, don't you have a house in Keough? Austin. And we were like,

Wait, he does. We were like, should we go out there tonight? And so we did eventually go out for like a week, which was nice. But yeah, I'm really excited. I'm also really scared. Everybody keeps warning me. They're like, they're just, just that it's so hard that the course is so hard. I mean, yeah.

you know, ocean. Yeah. The only course that I've ever broken 80 on in my life by the way, and I've done it twice was, uh, is, uh, Cougar. So if you get a chance, no, wait, or is it Osprey?

I'm playing both of them on Saturday. Wait, you've broken, breaking 80 is serious. I've never. Yeah, I played like I did on the back nine yesterday, obviously for two consecutive nines, right? And like on 15, I was like, do not tally your score. Do not tally your score. And I tallied it and I was like, oh my gosh, if I get, you know, three out of four pars to close this thing out and to break 80.

and I towed the line but yeah I broke 80 a shot that's 79 once in the 78 another time that's huge Dustin said that he didn't know his score the last day of the Masters when he won or he didn't know where everyone else was until the last Dustin won by like 10 fucking strokes well he he said he asked AJ like walking up the last fairway and he was like

um where are we he's like we're like five up yeah but i was like i would still be a nervous siri i will siri makes me want to throw my electronics through a wall nothing i got here you have a relationship what's even happening with siri what's she doing she's trying she's bugging to respond to that shut up

Siri, turn off. Oh, she's off. Ben's in on the Siri hate now. But the reason now, but the reason though, Ben, is because the course at Osprey is like,

I mean, I hate to say it, but it's like shorter than the rest. So that's, that's what I mean. Yeah. I think that hopefully somebody from Keowa is listening to this and they can just host us. They should just bring us out there. This is basically a Keowa infomercial. Bring the boys out there. We'll bring a little society. We'll bring a little trap hop. We're going to have a great time. That's right. Right. And guys, I mean, it makes sense.

I mean, we basically should do like a Kiowa ad here because if you're listening and you don't live in South Carolina, I mean, talk about an excuse to grab the hubby.

Or your friends and you go to the sanctuary. I mean, you know, now that the sanctuary is there, there's something for everyone. Right. So it's like, you know, if you brought out Claudia and you brought out page and like, you know, the girls would have a blast at the sanctuary and like, we could all go play golf, you know? So it's like, there is something for everyone to do. And then you get, you know, world-class eats at night and,

I'm so jealous for you right now, dude. I'm so jealous. One a year. One a year. This is my one golf trip. We don't have – well, we started one tradition, me and Austin, this year on Fourth of July. And we just – yeah, that's the only guys trip that I've ever – We should do it again. And we will. It's hard to start. It's hard to start. But once you start it, it's fantastic. Right? Like otherwise, I guess it's like bachelor parties. But like those are going to – Yeah, yeah, yeah. Eventually all your friends are going to be married. Right.

i gotta like it and it's that trip that like you know they put on the calendar you know their wife can't tell them no they're like it's the yearly trip right and so everyone who has kids and who's married is like looking forward to this trip how is claudia with you leaving because i was i'm laughing when i say that because paige is like what what so when are you here again yeah let me it's a great question she's fine with uh she's like go be stupid but you know

It's all balanced. She's, she's definitely never thrilled when I leave the house ever, like even to, even to like go to dinner. Like she really feel good. Yeah. Like she would, she would prefer for me to be home. It's not like a, she doesn't like give me shit. Like when I leave the house, but like on a, for a golf trip, she'll give me shit. Anytime I'm golfing, anytime I'm golfing. And this one in particular, Austin, you brought it up. Thankfully I've had this calendared for like literally 10 months.

Like this is like, she can't say anything. There's nothing to say, but we just got a brand new puppy. My dog died three and a half months ago and it was a very public thing. And we just got a new puppy and he's literally been with us for a week. And the puppy phase of 12 weeks is really hard. So I actually feel very, very bad that it lined up this way where she's alone with this newborn and I am on a golf trip, but.

It is what it is. It was papered. It's been at all. Yeah, it's been, that's, that's the best part about it. You're never alone. Yeah. We haven't taken that jump. Me, the Southern charm boys. Oh, well yeah. Shepherd, I guess in his way. I feel like you're the dog. You don't have a dog. Ben, do you know that Shep has a dog named Craig? Did you know this? You're lying. No, I'm not lying. Shep bought a Frenchie and named him Craig. After meeting you or before?

Oh, of course, after. Out of fight. That is really, really... Just so that he can yell at him. He's like, Craig, come outside. Yeah, that is really fucking weird. Yeah, his name's Little Craig. And so when we're near each other, he just screams my name because the dog's very undisciplined. And so he'll scream like, Craig! And I'll turn and be like, what? What?

And I'll be like, I'm talking to the dog. And I'm like, I hate you. It's really funny, but it's also such a. Four leg Craig, Ben four leg Craig and two leg Craig. Yeah. Four leg Craig. No, it's a cocksucker move. Yeah. And people are like, are you gonna name your dog? Shep? I'm like, no, no, definitely not. Well, no, no. He, um, that's really fun. One time he brought him over to my house when it was still getting like done. Like the furniture was brand new and the pool hadn't been completed. So it was muddy.

And he wasn't supposed to bring him. And I looked outside from my top window and I saw little Craig running in the mud. And then I saw him run up the deck and into the house. And I just grabbed my keys and went and got my car and left. And Aaron, our producer called me and said, what are you doing? And I said, you need to fix whatever just happened at the house. And when little Craig is like,

put away in a car or gone, I will come back. Oh my God. That's so funny. But Austin has a good relationship with him. That is actually really funny. I didn't know that, Craig, but that's such a Craig move.

I mean, who is pettier, man? Four-legged Craig or two-legged Craig? Two-legged Craig is a little pettier than four-legged Craig. But you're very right. Little Craig is an undisciplined little monster. All right. We're going to take a quick break from our sponsors. And then when we get back, let Austin ask all of his questions to Ben. Ooh.

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Josh and I just for those not listening, Josh is from Drake and Josh. Yeah, Josh and I met. And honestly, our humor was just so similar. Like we we have like the same. You guys are great Jewish stick. Like I only everybody always asks, like, why do you bring religion into it? And there's just something about

Judaism that when played properly with humor creates this shtick that just exists for certain people. And Josh and I have that exact same mojo. We also both have, he has more former obesity. I still have like light current obesity, but there's like something about the obesity and the Judaism and just like the day-to-day life

humor that is so similar for both of us and honestly it was my wife Claudia's like you've been wanting a podcast right you should try and do one with Josh like just set up shop record an episode and see how it goes we spoke for an hour no no we we met like through a mutual friend and we've known each other now for five or so years and like something tells me that this guy is also Jewish

And I think that we should have a podcast together. Okay. Yeah. Honestly, it was just, we had great banter. Like, did he want to do a podcast? He had a podcast. He's had podcasts before. He had a solo podcast. Then he had a podcast with another person. And for whatever reason, I think they were successful, but like they never...

they never became like cult favorites right and so he was looking for for something and claudia was like just just get in a room and try it and it worked it really really worked we spoke about nothing for an hour and i was bummed when you guys seinfeld podcast man yeah so when i did i went on their podcast and the hour was up austin they were like

All right. You know, they started talking. They're like, okay, we're going to record another one. Let's like knock another podcast out. They're like, all right, see you, Craig. And you're like, I could stay if you want. We've done that too. Yeah. Guests will come on and then we're like, well, we've been going for like an hour and a half. And they're like,

Oh, well, do you want to keep hanging out or? Well, we used to drink a lot during these and like guests would be like, you know what? I'll have four bottles of champagne. That's fun. Tonight. That's fine. It was really coming out of COVID. Yeah. You know, when that was all there was to do.

Was drink. Yeah. So were you in New York City during COVID? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's crazy. We rented a house for 10 weeks in upstate New York. So like I got a drop of a reprieve. But yeah, I was in the city and the city, I just watched it. I'm from the city born and raised. And I watched it go from just like this incredible, iconic city to absolute mayhem.

Like it was – and I lived at the time like near Central Park like –

It was all of the stores were completely boarded. You know that area near 60th Street? There's the Montclair, the Baccarat, the Tiffany. Everything just boarded, boarded. You can't see logos anymore. It felt like everybody was just gone. COVID in New York was a disaster. Austin and I would golf cart to lunch and pick up. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry to say that, Ben. I don't like to rub it in, but like Craig and I, Craig and I lived like a fairytale COVID experience. I will say I too lived, look, the actual living situation was, was definitely not ideal living in the city, but having that amount of time with Claudia, having that amount of time with Theo, my dog. Right. Then I talk about this with Claude all the time. Like the fact that he ended up dying at six and,

Like we got two years with him that were so much more time because of COVID than we would have gotten. So that was great. And I built Sprint Society in COVID. I had the time to literally sit and grind for 10 hours a day that I didn't have before.

You know what I mean? Like I just sat and built a business. That's pretty good. Yeah. That's, that's literally what I did. It's true, man. Before, before COVID too, I've only had drop hop available, you know, draft. And then when COVID hit, right. You know, because they deemed package stores like essential. I was like, I have to get this into package like ASAP. And so, you know, COVID is like what gave me the kick in the ass to like,

put it in package it was like what are you doing like this could not be only available on draft time to put it into that's wild that you didn't have your hands i know i know you know and it was just like a lack of like i was like oh i'll do it i'll do it and then you know covet it and i was like what are you doing like this needs to have happened yesterday so yeah yeah we had a we there's still remnants of my yard that looks like a country bumpkin

- Your yard looks great. - Well, I have like that kegerator porch. - Your backyard? - Like the backyard looks great, but then there's like, oh yeah, abandoned kegerator. - Oh, I didn't even realize what that was. - Yeah, it's a kegerator. - Yeah, man, Craig got a kegerator and that was back when we first began a podcast out of COVID and so we had it.

And then it turned out that a kegerator just isn't as like, you know, it's not like you have like a bar in your house. It's not the fantasy that you think it is. No, it's not the fantasy that you think it is. You just can't drink that much beer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Craig and I, like, I mean, I had a keg of trot pop in there for like six months, you know, and it's like far too long to have a keg of anything. What's your, have you bought...

Since becoming like, as your financial independence grows, what has been something like a silly purchase that you always wanted? It's funny. I think that the more successful I become, the less I spend like an idiot. And when I had less money, all I would do is spend like a moron. No, I'm not kidding. There's something about financial independence that, or starting to get there, that actually, at least for me, it's turned me into a more...

uh financially viable person i used to be the guy that like on a whim i would go into gucci and buy 700 sneakers okay for no reason well that would be that so you were like oh yeah i was a nut like a clothing sneakers i would buy 500 t-shirts and claudia's like why are you wearing a 500 shirt yeah that was just man let me tell you mine i i like it's actually pertinent because it just

like i just sold it finally but i bought a mortal kombat machine like a year ago and i thought it was going to be like you know like i thought it was going to be like friends in your house yeah yeah like i totally thought that we were going to be like you know playing like on mortal kombat and stuff when like we'd come back from the bar like something i don't know what the hell i thought

No, but like a talking piece. I mean, like a talking piece, you know, for sure. Like you may bring in girls home or whatever and being like, oh, yes. Give me like a Mortal Kombat, like video game. Like an arcade game. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. An arcade game. I can't imagine that gets you laid. Well, no. I didn't. I didn't though. Like. I did not buy it as a get me laid thing. Mortal Kombat. No, it's like a bromance thing. Yes. Yes. And so I thought this. Yeah. Yeah.

And so I bought this Mortal Kombat machine. I had it here for like a year, right? And it just did not make sense. It was like, you got to get this thing out of here. And so I just got someone to come and pick it up literally the day before yesterday. And it's officially out of my house. What'd you buy it for? And what'd you sell it for? Yeah, we have to know this. What was your exit strategy with the Mortal Kombat machine? Okay. I bought it for close to 600 and I just got rid of it for three.

- Not bad. - Honestly, I thought you were gonna make me like 15 grand and sold it for less. - I would have guessed 1500 to two grand 'cause I thought that it was too. - Yeah, but I'm a big time crisis guy. - Oh, it's not a big machine. - So that's what I thought that it was gonna be, right? So when you go to the movies and there's a room in the corner and those games are in there.

Yes. Those are big. Those are big, man. This cabinet. It's called like an arcade cabinet. Craig, you are very correct. This is my list. You need something in here. You need one in here. I should have brought it over to Craig's house. When I was in this phase, I didn't have the money to buy one. And now that I do, I'm a little more like what you were saying where like I'm going to buy something that makes me money now. But

If I had the room, I would have a dual two-person time crisis machine. Dude, time crisis was so sick, dude. With the pedal? I asked for one for Christmas all the time. That's a big-ass cabinet. This is also like 20 times what you get for Christmas. Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that a time crisis cabinet is going to run you up. Like 15 grand, right? Aren't these expensive? Will you look up the... With the pedal?

I would buy a Cruzen Exotica. Do you remember the game Cruzen Exotica? Yeah. I feel like it's, that's almost like, that's about 50. Cruzen Exotica? Yeah, the race car game. Oh, kind of like a Cruzen USA? I think it's the same thing. Yeah. I think my, I may have just picked like a niche version of Cruzen. That's when they went overseas. You like, you know, ride a car through a dinosaur park. We have an arcade down the street actually with a go-kart track.

You can get the full, you talking about the full size one, Craig? Yes. Full size time crisis. You guys want to take a guess? $15,500. $15,500? Yeah. Ben? $15,000. It can't be that high.

- A fully refurbished one is $15,800. - Holy crap. - Holy crap. - It's like the nice one though. There are ones that you can like- - What are the dimensions too, Nick? What are the dimensions? That's what you gotta look at. - You do that in the middle of the golf course too. - The dimensions of it- - That's what your prize is. - Are just gonna be bigger than what you think. Like you can't put that thing anywhere. - No, it's huge. - I guarantee it's massive. - Game room goodies.

- It's huge. - It would be- - Yeah, 113 inches wide by 67 inches deep by 90 inches tall. - It's a 12 by 12 spot. - That is five feet deep. That's just five feet deep. - That's so sick. - I wonder if our besties, do you think they know time crisis?

Yeah, if you go to it's the one with the two guns that if you've been doing arcade, I know it's Yeah, it's pistols. Yeah, pedal. I had it for PlayStation two. And you could shoot at your TV. And I thought I was way beyond my time. The fact that they don't do that anymore is crazy. But you would press a button on the gun. And that was your pedal. I was fantastic. I was such a big video game guy. You were you played shooter games. That was your thing.

Yeah, but I wasn't really allowed to play video games other than like on Saturdays. Yeah. So...

I just wasn't, I was never exposed enough to get hooked until freshman year in college. I got hooked on a paintball game with my roommate, which was great. Yeah. And then I had a call of duty phase. Austin and I tried it during COVID, but we just weren't ever really good enough to get into it. Yeah. I was horrible. You were horrible. I was horrible at, sorry. I'm like, man, hanging out with Ben and now I'm like, you know, pronouncing my A's. I was horrible. That's, that's, uh,

at Call of Duty and like some nights, man, Craig and I were up until like three or four in the morning during fucking COVID playing, you know, duty. And I was like,

this shit's gotta stop it's so good i also wasn't allowed to have video games and then literally my best friend in the third grade gave me a playstation wow my mom couldn't say no to receiving a gift and that just like started me being a playstation guy forever i was i never got into the shooter games which just wasn't my thing i was absolutely obsessed with

nba live nba 2k and now i'm just like a if i play like i'll play like one player i'm still great at 2k like regular playstation it sounds remember blitz it sounds awful regular playstation great and nhl hits i love madden hl hits was was my absolute jam when i was in you know high school i used to play that with my buddies like every day we used to get so heated

in games of NHL hits like so heated it's such a good game did you ever play any golf games like the Tiger Woods games were so yes absolutely played a bunch of Tiger in college the simulators are starting to get

to a consumer like a regular consumer price line like price point my garage isn't my garage is big enough but not this room i think if the ceiling was high enough it would have been tempting to put in a golf simulator i mean you live that would be sweet would be so dumb i know like go out and play golf yeah i also don't think golf simulators get you i think it's something that you put in

And I don't know if it gets used as much as you think you would use it. I'm sure it doesn't. I'm not an amenity person. That's why, like, when we look at buildings, there are people that look at buildings and they're like, oh, I need a pool. I need a gym. I need this. I'm going to use it all the time. I'm going to tell you I'm not going to use 90% of the amenities. Or you tell yourself you're going to. Of course. But you don't. I want to know how many times people have gone to the pool in their building. Use the pool. Like, truly use the pool. Fair. I mean...

No. Yeah. Unless you're Michael Phelps. Maybe he likes his amenity. Is it indoor or outdoor? Indoor. Yeah. Madison, man. Dude, when I dated Madison, dude, she used her pool all the time. I mean, but she had a son, and so she would take him to the pool. They literally used their pool all the time.

That totally. That's the only person that I really know of. If you're the kid, I take it back. Yeah. Use the amenity for your child. Well, indoor pools as a kid is the coolest thing ever. Remember going to those hotels? It wasn't like an indoor pool, Craig. No, it was an outdoor facility. I'm just saying. Why the hell would it be like a hotel pool? Well, I reminded me of our COVID hotel during in Vermont, Austin.

and it smelled like okay that's vermont craig i mean everything there has to be indoor because it's cold for eight months out of the year pools will burn your skin absolutely

Make it nice and red. I used to lie on the couch and my mom would make a cold freaking compress tube because my eyes were so swollen and I'd lie there with a cold compress. Yeah. Cause I'd open my eyes. I was playing, I was playing all sorts of games, Craig. I don't know. I was picking up things. We have to talk about this in terms of eyes, itchy eyes. Nobody talks about the pollen in South Carolina.

All you do is talk about all the positives, all the great things, the beautiful weather, the low taxes, the freedom. Nobody talks about pollen. Freedom and low taxes. This is disgusting. Really? Yeah. See, it doesn't bother me anymore. I was a mess this morning. Like, it looks like I would have been on a bender. Like, I just rubbed my eyes. Well, I had to take my medicine, but like...

went to craig's golf cart yesterday to get in and it looked like an incredible hulk well speaking of golf carts are our golf carts in your opinion ben because you live somewhere where you don't need them um in your opinion is that one of like does that fall into the category that that that we were just talking about with like a mobile combat machine or like a you know like a

Like a kegerator. Does that New York city would be sick. It's actually a good call. I don't have the opportunities to spend money on truly dumb shit. Cause I don't have room for it. But if I have room for it, you think that a golf cart is, is truly dumb shit is what I'm saying. I, I,

I think that a very expensive golf cart to me would be categorized as truly dumb shit and I would buy it. Okay. Very expensive obviously fluctuates between any person that you're talking to. So I bought my golf cart for like $6,500. That's totally fine. That's a normal golf cart, I think. Okay. I think that's like nice new golf cart.

Well, like you can buy just like a normal one for like, you know, 4,200 bucks, but then, you know, you put on tires like on Craig's and like a little bit of a lift, then, you know, all of a sudden it's like 6,500 plus. And then like a speaker system can be, you know, and then, and then you can buy ones where they have seatbelts and they go like, you know, 25 miles an hour. And those things are called like an LSV, low, low.

low speed vehicles. And those things can be like, you know, 15 K plus. So my, both of my brothers in laws live in Florida and they both have those types. Shout out. Yeah. LSVs.

And those things go 25 miles an hour and they are fucking amazing on the golf course. Mine goes 25. Yours goes 25? Yeah. They rip and they're so comfortable and they're so big. But yeah, they're literally, they're cars. Does the seatbelt take the feeling of being in a golf cart away from the golf cart? Oh, sorry. There's no golf cart. There's no seatbelt. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. They go 25. Do you need a seatbelt? They don't take them out of the community. There's different laws. They stay in the community. I think the golf cart is like,

Like my parents live in a golf course community and they're not allowed to have golf carts. And every time I'm home, I go on a tear. I'm like, why would you live in a community like this and not be able to like... Like driving around a golf cart to me is...

Like, I just do it by myself sometimes. It's the best. It's a South Carolina thing. Obviously, like in Florida and all these things. But growing up in Charlotte, my parents also lived in a golf course community, but no golf carts were driven like that. Like, no, no, no. And then now that they're in South Carolina, they have...

in LSV and things like that. But, but like, I like yours, Craig and my, and my old one, man, RIP, it got totaled in the 4th of July. - Oh yeah, I always forget you don't have it. - And I had, you know, the same- - I would love to hear that story very quickly. They have convertible golf carts. They're sick. - Well- - Never driven one. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - What are they called again though? - Those are, those are- - Yeah, mocs. - Oh, mocs.

literally i the moke stock down the tubes the worst thing i've ever ever driven really yeah at least in st bart's i get it for the golf course community because it's last time yeah driving it up and he texted me it was like you gotta but he said it's a friend trip

which was interesting here it is oh yeah this is like vegas dude you go there with a bunch of friends and you're having like great dinner party ripping it's the best dude i'm not i'm not ripping on man saint parts i'm just saying it sounds awesome it was just you know really funny the way that you were like well when i was vacationing in st bart's i mean it is what it is look i i

i didn't feel anything at the same parts from there oh did it feel as bougie there yeah oh yeah it was the bougiest place i've ever been to this place is like i can't afford the most like expensive place yeah okay yeah i watched i watched a guy spend 150 000 at dinner next to me and i only know that because they have the prices of the bottles on the menu and the guy ordered three

magnum Don Perignon's that were $50,000 each. They were shut your mouth over his head and he got in a Superman costume and they carried him over his head. And this was, this is a Thursday. This is a Thursday. I can't even imagine the amount of money spent on a weekly basis at the, at like Bagatelle, like these clubs. What a legend. Nothing I've ever seen.

Because the only way to drink those magnums is that you have to put it, man, over your shoulder like this and then pour it like this, right? No, they're not meant to be drank and they're meant to be sprayed and poured on the floor. It's like a cool, let me crack it over somebody's head. Crazy. Talk about dumb money.

dumb that dude and like what have you accidentally were like okay man like I want one of those and like you didn't look and they were like yeah your bill just came 50k I would actually cry you you work there forever that's like yeah about how Austin became the sous chef at Bagatelle like you just live in the back

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Welcome back. I really wish my music feature was working, but I haven't set it up yet. So Ben can see how cool it is when we just blast. What do you do? Can you sing? No. No, but you should use my favorite song is I Do Anything for Love by Meatloaf. So maybe like just like pulse that in. We will. And now we're really favorite song. Favorite song Meatloaf rest in peace died during COVID. We don't know why.

I'm sure they said it was COVID, but we don't know why. I'm just saying he was 900 pounds. We don't know. But he won't do that, you know? He won't do anything. But I won't do anything. Fast Car is my favorite song. Amazing. Did you see Luke Collins and Tracy Chapman at the Grand Prix?

you're such like a luke combs version aren't you you're such a no no tracy chapman from the beginning like that's my favorite song but i didn't know it was a cute first that she was a female until years ago you know when i saw the first live performance wow

like when i heard fast car i thought it was a guy yeah oh yeah did you then grammy's performance yeah yeah i did oh amazing i'm like i was always a luke fan but that gave me so much appreciation for him as a person like to cover somebody's song and then not try to steal it from them he's just like looking at her singing it appreciating how it was it was the coolest yeah it was yeah

Like you could tell he was honored. Yeah, but that was one of those things, Craig, where, you know, everyone thought that Tracy Chapman, you know, was a guy forever and ever and ever. But then when you were like...

16 years old is like when you figured it out. You were like, oh, it was just like, I mean, Marilyn Manson removed a rib or something to suck like his own dick. It was like all those things that you figured out at a certain age. How did we spread that rumor without the internet? I mean, every kid in America, we just saw. Everybody knew this one.

Did you ever hear one that Jamie Lee Curtis was a hermaphrodite? Yes, I did. Yes, we all heard that one too. No, this is also like the quicksand. Like you'll literally just like go to the middle of the earth. Yeah, I mean, we were all scared of that. Terrible. We all have like an irrational fear of quicksand.

You know, you're like, I might like, you know, be in the woods. That was like, Bermuda triangle. Bermuda triangle was big one. We've done it. Have you done it? No. Yeah. Me and Austin did it during COVID. I was, well, we survived. Okay, cool. Yeah. We, we made it through. We got out. We got out and that's what's. It was five years later, but, uh, yeah. So are you seeing anyone? I am. Yeah. You are. You have a girlfriend.

Cool. How's that going? Well, I have not been able to say that word or admit that thing in so long that it feels strange still, but how it's going is great. It's just a great person

who does not provide me any sort of stress in my life. And it is like, I did not know that that existed, to be honest. And it's so wonderful. And it's like what I need personally. That's having it for me. It's like, it's just like the most low stress thing. And kind of like I said, like, I didn't think that that existed out there, but it is just...

She lives here. She lives in Charlotte, which is three hours away. Which is the way that like I wanted it too. You know, I mean, Craig will tell you, it's like, it's like at one point, you know, Craig is dating Paige, obviously. And I was like, I like what I see. Like, I like the fact. Do it on Facebook. No, no, I haven't. Like, I like the fact that, you know.

Craig and her got time apart. They'd come together for however long and then they go home and they get to lie on the couch. And I was like, I want that. And so finding someone who did not live in Charleston was great for me.

Facebook official made me think of something. Do you remember like making random friends of yours, like your dad or your brother? Did you guys ever do that? Like on Facebook, you would use those tools to like, like, like, you know how you could label somebody on Facebook? Like I'm in a relationship with page. You could also do like, this is my dad. This is my brother. This is my sister. Would you, did you guys do that with your friends? You never did that? No.

I remember like top eight on my space. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. I know what you're saying though. Right. Where it's like, oh, you know, and Austin's sister is, you know, Katie and, and his cousin is right. Like I recently got a notification. I, I don't, I, I don't even think that I have, I didn't even think that I had Facebook on my phone, but it was like, it's like, wish your brother a happy birthday. And this brother of mine is somebody that I haven't spoken to in 15 years. So I thought that was funny. Hang on. Spritz down. Okay.

You know, the MySpace thing was just a way to get all your password information. Like, you know, when it said like, what's your, so like in MySpace, when you'd answer all the questions, it'd be like, what was your first dog's name? What was your first pet's name? Where'd you go to high school? What was your high school logo? Oh, I never fucking thought about that. Yeah. And it was so, it was designed that all of security questions, you were basically giving your answer to all your security questions, but they made it seem like a cool thing to do. So interesting.

I remember coming home from school and my mom being like, you've had sex. And I was like, what? And she's like, your grandmother saw this poll that you did on your MySpace. And I had not had sex. And I guess I put like, are you a virgin? I put like, yes, no, maybe or something. And they're like, and it also says you've drank alcohol before. And I was like, God, I used to be so stupid. I mean, Ben, man, something that you need to know about Craig is that Craig is a big time human conspiracy theorist. So, um,

You know, sometimes you're like, is that true? Did MySpace take all our passwords? Or is that just Craig thinking that the government is currently listening to us? I mean, they could be. Well, they've been listening to us since the 70s. My granddad worked at that, I say.

Really? Yeah, both my grandparents. So when every election cycle, when they're like, the government's listening to you. My granddad's always like, we've been doing that since the 70s. Yeah. That's not a new thing. We listen. Back then it was for spies. Yeah. I think now it's probably for everything. The advertising data is crazy how valuable it is. Yeah, we were talking about TikTok yesterday. Rest in peace. Yeah.

Yes. If you exploded on TikTok and got fame quickly for no reason, sayonara. See ya. We've been out here in these streets working. We've been working for like a decade and all of a sudden- We've been working on these old man platforms. You swoop in on your fancy Pac-Man video games. You know my conspiracy theory with that though?

if they're able to ban tick tock then they'll be able to censor the internet so they'll be able to make websites illegal and stuff like that i think it sets a bad precedent it definitely does they're already trying to do that with some sites though well nick's mad because in virginia if you try to go to porn hub you have to scan your id first you're lying i swear to god you have to literally like upload a picture of your government id to prove that before jerking off you have to be like they wanted to

Can you use somebody else's ID? You know, that's a great idea. It's a new wave of fake IDs for porn IDs. How much do you really check that, right? Like, how much do you... Well, Pornhub's just down. They're like, we won't have Pornhub up in Virginia unless the government rescinds this law. Really? Yeah, you have to use a, what do you call it, a VPN to go to it. Not that I know of. Nick, what's your porn site of choice? Pornhub.

What's yours, Ben?

I was gonna say the same one that Craig was. - XNXX is pretty great. And they're not monitored. - Yeah, that one's pretty good. Sexy. There's some other ones that I don't wanna say. - You have a lot of content. - You don't know what you're gonna see. - No, XNXX is like a public library. - In Virginia, you don't have to upload your, look, Austin. - Correct. - XNXX. - So in Virginia it works. You don't have to use your ID. - Yeah, so there's a bunch in Virginia that work. - Austin, can you not put this in my podcasting, please?

Okay. Okay. It's got a lot of everything on here. This is interesting. Anything you want, anything you want. There's some other sites I got too. I feel a little queasy with like the thumbnails are super graphic. You gotta, you gotta, you know, it's gotta learn you. Austin, that, no, that's because it's been listening. It's been looking at his. Well, you learn you. Yeah, do that on incognito mode, Craig.

Well, I do. I use private, though. But, Austin, do you know there's a private mode? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But, like, oh, my God. Yeah. What? Okay. Closed out of the website. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. I'm closing out. I want to know what Austin wanted to ask Ben. You didn't have any questions. No, no, no. I have a few questions. But one of them is, is Josh on the west or east coast?

West. Okay. Where does he live in LA? Yeah. California. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. God, man. So, so, so that adds like a little, a little kind of element there for, for you to need to link up. Not really though. Like right now you're, you're at your house. Craig's at his house. Like I never were on East coast time.

for podcasting oh oh it does add complexity from a schedule perspective but like in terms of being able to podcast we pick a time and we do it in terms of hanging it definitely hurts our ability to hang that's sad but you know what help that josh comes once every six weeks i go maybe i try to go once a month oh that's cool um see also and i see each other so much that when it's time to podcast so

sometimes it's tough because we've seen each other all day. So that's interesting. Ours is the pull out. Like we actually, it's like, we'll go to the gym together. Right. We use the back to catch up. Like, Hey, how was your, and he'll tell me. And that's awesome. And sometimes, you know, I mean, that's like, you know, us Craig, you know, but then, you know, sometimes kind of like now, you know, we're back in town, you know, we have, you know, the same trainer. And then it's like, you know, we leave the gym and they're like, all right, man, do you want a podcast later? And it's like,

Yeah, man. What's not? And it's like, you know, just seeing each other, but like, but you know, sometimes Craig, man, sometimes it's like, I, you know, if like, we're like particularly busy, it really is like a fricking, you know, catch up time. It's like, all right, I haven't talked.

talk to Craig now in like a week. So like, what the hell has he been up to? And so that's the podcast being useful. And that's nice. Do you guys do it man weekly? Do you guys do it once a week? We now do it twice a week. So we started off once a week. It was doing really well. We added a second episode. So good guys is Mondays and Thursdays.

You can watch it on Josh's YouTube or listen to it, Apple, Spotify, all the good stuff. We were talking about this yesterday and we were talking about it in relation to like business, but like being in New York also allows you to meet people. There's no substitute for that. Well, I'm having a very hard time quantitating living in New York. Like why people do it because like Paige is apartment shopping and like

I just expensive. Yeah. It's in, it's insane. And you give them all of your money. So it's not like you're paying like in Monaco where you pay all this money because then you don't have to pay taxes. You're paying all this money to pay the most in the country. But Ben, you,

Which used to be because you made so much more money being there. But like yesterday, Ben said he thinks that he makes more money living in New York, which I'm like happy to hear that. I think I do, but I do think that a better argument is the one that we just came up with, which is that living in New York, you meet great people.

Well, the projects would just not stop. And it's hard to meet people. Like, you guys know each other already. That's why this works out. But we don't know anyone else. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if we lived in New York, it would be our networks would be bigger. You're right. Much bigger. Help me meet people, Ben. I think you'd make more money.

I mean, look, man. If Fred wasn't- If you didn't watch Raven's Live tonight. Right. Well, that's why I can- Oh, you need to be on, you need to do X, Y, or Z. Like you're in the epicenter of your stuff. I don't know. I mean, dude, if I had to be in New York for dinner tonight, I literally could get up now and go and easily be there. Like it's super, super easy for us to get to New York. But you are right. I've been going to like, I went to-

Like I have been starting to get invited to dinners and stuff because people...

don't think to invite people that aren't living there because they don't want to ask them to like travel yeah right oh because you like because you're yeah yeah but like if the dinner is right then like i would be like yeah dude just tell me when you know what i mean and i'll be there because it's like that it's that easy and especially for her the moment but like i'm thinking of inviting you tonight i'm not gonna think no you're right you're right you're right but

They need to create a, do you know the company JSX or like XO? These are like semi. We don't live in New York. Okay. So they're like semi-private airlines that are. Oh, yeah. I know XO. I know XO. They're pretty cheap. Like JSX, you can fly $500 one way to Florida and you go into a private terminal. That's how much a first class ticket is. You go into a private terminal. That's awesome. Yeah. And sometimes it ranges in price. But if they had that for here.

You can leave, you can get there 20 minutes before. The actual travel time is the equivalent of going to upstate New York. It would take you two hours from door to door. What's your take when you visit a place with the space that we have? Because like the space in Charleston of like,

Well, I mean, you've been to my house, but that's how everyone's house is. The backyard, the community, what does the space do for you? The space, obviously we have Westchester and Long Island. We have space in New York. It's just expensive space. No, living space. When you see a place like a house- When I see a house versus an apartment, I think to myself, it would be amazing to have the space of a house. But the value of that isn't enough to pull you out of New York City. No, no.

it's not yeah i think to me i'm just so motivated to try and do as well as possible so i can have space in new york right right no that makes sense but that you need to be yeah but it's possible it's possible yeah but that's so i mean then if craig you know if craig wasn't dating page i mean i remember that there was a time there when i was like

like maybe we should like try and find like a place to like you know rent rent together craig or like you know buy a place and you know i don't i don't really know what we're talking about chicago or new york yeah oh i don't think we knew how much stuff actually cost in new york yeah yeah yeah i think that's kind of like we're making some good money let's just buy a place in you know new york and then you're like oh

never mind maybe we can rent a one bedroom right right right right for one and a half million yeah i was like yeah man look at this place like in west village you know like a like a you know one bedroom even converted to two okay it's three and a half million all right let's uh rethink let's rethink here but chicago like i get them on instagram some of the penthouses in chicago

Or what a regular place cost in New York City. And you're like, fuck, why doesn't I was like, I'm from, Paige live in Chicago. We have this cool ass place, but. Well, I think we should maybe like think about doing a little something in Chicago. God, I love it in the summertime. It's just so great. The lake. We always talk about Chicago on here. The lake, the beach. Yeah. I haven't done the lake. I haven't done the lake. The bear. I mean, shit, man. Ever since the bear came out, I'm like, all right. So what are you doing? I'm just going to go eat a beef sandwich. Ah.

I don't even know what I'm doing tomorrow. Actually, tomorrow I'm going to Kiowa. So I do know what I'm doing tomorrow. But in the summer, do you, I mean, you guys just chill in the city? We like go to the Hamptons for a couple of weeks. We'll travel. And honestly, with Spritz Society, the summer. Go to St. Bart's, Craig. Yeah. Do you visit Jackie? St. Bart's in the summer? What are you, nuts? Well, we don't know. Smoking hot.

No, I'm just kidding. You visit Jackie? Yeah. Yeah. We'll go down to Florida. Where are they in Florida? Even though that's also really woody nuts. I'm not going to Florida in the summer. We'll go for a couple of days. Yeah, that's too hot. Dude, you do not want to be here in the summer. Yeah, too hot. Past the 4th of July, you'd like want to clear out until September. Yeah. Well, it gets so hot that like you can't even go on a boat. Oh, that's terrible. And I love a boat. Yeah. I love a boat. Boats are nice. Yeah. Don't we all?

Well, it was great having you, Ben. Tell us about everything you guys got going on. Yeah, I feel like I did a pretty decent job of plugging the way through, but I will say that I did create a code for your listeners. If you go to SprintSociety.com and do PILLOWS15, P-I-L-L-O-W-S-1-5, you can get 15% off all Sprint Society products and try them. Yeah, and Austin, that's tough because they can order...

Like all of our listeners right now can order Spritz online and have it to their door, but they can't order Trop Hop. Yeah, they can order it right now. How exciting is that, man? We can talk about the Trop Hop ordering thing. I have some ideas as to how people can order it. I mean, I have been through it. That would change his life. There are companies that do it. And yeah. I mean, dude, if I could do that, my numbers would go up.

probably like you know 20 x-man overnight yeah let's let's talk about it you know uh yeah so yeah that would be cool because people want to try the beer and it was great it was great yeah thanks man i loved it and uh i'm very proud of it i'm very proud of it of the spritz my favorite spritz society flavor is probably peach the one that i'm drinking but yeah dude i was a big fan

i was a big fan of the peach yeah and i saw passion fruit and i was very you know interested in that because there's passion fruit in you know tropop and it's an interesting flavor you know always so i like that i'm on a passion fruit okay the peach isn't where i started with spritz because the first time i drank it was on our way to the taylor swift concert um and

And the coach bus had spritz. And I was like, this is fucking awesome because I only drink beer and wine. And I was like, wait, now I don't have to have like a glass of wine. I was like, this is really good. And then we met you guys at Taylor Swift and you guys were like, you know, it's ours. And I was like, I had no idea. But they have a sampler pack. Yeah. Pillows 15.

go grab some and listen to good guys. And you might see good guys on Mondays and Wednesdays or Mondays and Thursdays. Mondays and Thursdays. I'm sure some of our besties are toasters too. Yeah. Listen to your wife, Claudia. How long has Morning Toast been around?

probably seven years, the number one female millennial morning show in the U S Monday through Friday, every single day. That show is, that is, that is a Titan of industry right there. Dude, I'm indebted to your wife too. I don't know if you know this because, you know, a couple of years back, I was going through it and,

And she was the only podcast that I jumped on it, you know, to kind of talk about, you know, my, my kind of side of things. And she was like, I love a, like, you know, comeback King and blah, blah, blah. So I was like, Claudia, you are the best, you know, thank you for letting me come on and,

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