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what's up everybody welcome to pillows and beer i'm craig conover coming to you from charleston i'm joined by austin kroll who's in the back of an rv and nick norris our producer is in virginia somewhere with his skills what's up guys nick funny enough buddy i'm also in virginia somewhere i'm driving through the state of virginia as we speak in the bedroom of our rv we love that yeah i don't know where state of love
Yeah, I don't know where I am. Do you feel a little old to be staying in an RV or just right in the sweet spot? Like where? Yeah. Where are you? What's going on with you? I'm glad that you asked that. So basically headed just just a quick little like I'm headed to Delaware. I'm headed to Craig's home state to see the Fish Festival, which we've had circled since January. Yeah.
And growing up and going to festivals and things like that, we always saw people that were in RVs. And we were like, one day, man. One day that's going to be us. And today is that day. I mean, because the alternative, Craig, is either to stay... Because we're going to the Woodlands. You know what the Woodlands is? Yeah, there's actually... Firefly Festival. Yeah.
Yeah, so there's nowhere to stay other than a tent or an RV. So you guys are the... You're living large. Like, technically, we are in, like, the four seasons of the campgrounds because we have our own RV. And so I feel great about it. That's exciting, though. I know what you mean by that, where you're like, one day that'll be us. And so you're going to a fest now...
Well, we have to put it in perspective for people because the fact that you have air conditioning, everyone would be like, well, yeah, I would hope you'd have air conditioning. But the like you you when you went to festivals used to live in a tent with no air conditioning, no running water and no kitchen. Right. That's right. That's right. And like I mean, now that I'm thinking about it, like I don't like.
I used to go to festivals a lot when I was like in college. Like I went to Bonnaroo in 04 when I was, when I was a sophomore in high school. I don't think that I showered once during that Bonnaroo time and it didn't bother me at all. But obviously now like, you know, disgusting. Right. So it's like the campsite where we're staying has showers, but I do. Yeah. Like I am going to have to wear like, you know, fricking flip flops and like, you know, bring in my own towel, you know, all, all the things.
But you can pee in the RV and you can do all that. Driving an RV is actually really fun. I did that for spring break in college down in Key West. How long was that drive? Oh, God. I mean, probably 10, 12 hours. Yeah. How many guys? Five guys, four girls. Yeah.
Yeah, so there's three guys and my buddy's wife,
who she just announced to us yesterday that she was pregnant. She put on a t-shirt and it's like, you know, baby's first show. And I'm sitting there making jello shots with my buddy Dan. I mean, guys, I've gone full back to freaking high school, college with this. Because, yeah, I was making jello shots. And I was like, wait a minute. Wait, why does it say baby's first show? What does that mean? And I was like, holy shit. Anyway, so there's four of us.
And basically we're splitting it up into like two and a half hour drive times because it's like an eight hour drive. Where did you pick up the RV? In Charlotte. Dude, that's awesome that you're going to Delaware. But yeah, I think you are in the middle of like nowhere. Yeah, I'm in the middle of nowhere.
No offense, Nick, towards anyone in Virginia. I am in the middle. I'm literally just passing through the state. So I think that I'm in Delaware. No, I mean where you're staying in Delaware. Oh, got it. And then what is a fish festival? Are there other bands there? Yeah, so...
A fish festival typically is a two night festival. This is their first time. It's going to be a four night festival. They are the only band, but they did just announce DJs. So like Questlove, for instance, is going to be a DJ there on Sunday night after the show. So like they have like this late night shit for all the for all the fish goers that are like on drugs and like want to keep going.
I doubt that that'll be me. I highly doubt that I'll be at these DJ sets. Because I just burn out these days by midnight. Midnight's late for me. So I probably won't be at the DJ sets, but yes, Greg, they're the only band playing. Well, that's really fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then what they do, not...
to belabor the fish fest topic, but just to finish it, is that they kind of create a small city, so there's all sorts of food vendors and pop-ups here and pop-ups there. And they try to make it like a farmer's market on the weekends. And they have a mini cabin where they're going to be serving a bunch of craft beer. So they make it like a big old city
and i've been waiting for this one for a while because this might be the last time that i see fish for a while because i yeah i i just don't foresee myself like bending over backwards to see them and now that my fish mexico friends are pregnant like i'm probably not going to mexico next year and that's that's a-okay because i've been to over a hundred shows and i'm gonna
you know, probably take a little break. That's wild. When I met you, I think, yeah, I don't even know what your number was, but that's okay. So you're living large with having somewhere with air condition to sleep and everything else is taken care of. That's cool. We, we, uh, I was just in St. Thomas actually for my brother's bachelor party, which was a lot of fun. Um, yeah, I know you were, I thought that you were there still, but it makes sense that you're not. So it's about, there's actually like, I think there's a hurricane there. Um,
Right now. So the timing was... Eduardo, I think. We got really lucky. It was the type of bachelor party where the house was nice enough that we didn't have to leave. We were in the middle. You didn't see another human. We had a pool that looked over a cliff. That's awesome. The first night we got a chef and then played Beer Olympics, which was great. Those guys are all so good at...
Like all of those games. And then we got a boat. Shout out to Voodoo Charters. If you go to the Virgin Islands, you should go on Voodoo. It's like a 50-foot catamaran. And we went to like Yost Van Dyke and all the British BVIs. That's awesome. Met a lot of fans in the BVIs. So shout out to them. Everyone tends to drink a lot down there. The BVIs, not the USVIs?
I mean, we like on St. Thomas, we didn't I didn't go out. So I really just went to the grocery store. So the boat was my only day. Actually, in St. John, we went the third day. I ran into a good friend from Charleston and her husband. She was like, Craig. I was like, oh, shit. What's up? Yeah.
which was neat and, you know, ran into, Oh yeah. All the bartender. Yeah. Actually St. John, the bartenders were like, Oh my God, we have pictures from like with Kyle and Amanda here. And I did like, I don't know. I was at, I was at lunch for a while and then I went to the video casino, which had air conditioning and no one was in it. And I just, I'm saying John. Yeah. Okay. Because we, me and the fam are going to St. John for new year's.
And I wasn't sure what the situation was. And we're renting a boat and going to Yost and all those things, too, for one of the days. And so this makes me excited for St. John's.
There's a place called The Beach Bar, which is on the beach. And the bartenders are great. And it's awesome. Then Longboard is there from Charleston. So there's some Charleston people that went and opened Longboard. Oh, right. Right. Yes. Because Longboard is on Sullivan's Island. And so they built the sister bar in St. John. That's fun. I went and snuck away and ate there by myself the last day and took the ferry home by myself. I was like, this is fun, but I'm going...
Going home and then this place called Tin Cup or something. The tap room, I think, is awesome. So we had a good time. A lot of nice people, very friendly people. Well, Austin dropped off. Go ahead and take a quick break here and we'll see if we can get him back in.
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Welcome back to Pillows and Beer. Oh, Austin, I was going to say, we went by Epstein's Island, which was really eerie. Yeah, I bet so. You can see the temple at the top of the mountain. Like, it's weird. Yeah.
Oh, dude, I'm surprised that island hasn't been like blown to smithereens. Well, that's because he still lives there. Blow it up anyways. Yeah, that's true. No, it was... You guys will have a great time. It's pretty like intimate and low-key, but it's... I just have such a calling to the islands. Like I was sitting out, we stayed on this like...
I stayed at this house apparently that was on the Housewives like a long time ago. But like at night, the breeze is just perfect. And I would just like look out over the water. And I was like, God, something about the islands just like calls me. But there was a mother-in-law suite in the house. So I got lucky. So I can go stay in the mother-in-law suite while the music was playing. But I've got another bachelor party this weekend.
Craig, I have a question. Do you think that you were a buzzkill on your brother's bachelor party? It sounds like like you hung out in the mother-in-law suite and took like a ferry home alone. And or or or were you just like, you know, tempered just like all the way through?
No, I was just like the big brother. We had a lot of fun. Just the last day, like I did a lot of talking to people that weren't in the bachelor party that last day. Like St. John, like everyone in the bar was like, it was a big day of taking pictures and talking to people that were in our party. Like I left to go eat by myself at Longboard because it was just a little too intense. So that's the only reason why I left. Where were you at Beach Bar?
Yeah. And it was awesome, but it was just, you know, as people, as it gets later in the evening, it gets a little intense. Yeah. The drinking and no, no, no, no, no. We had a great time. It was, it was 12 of us. It was, um, it was 12 of us. And I know all the guys, like they were all like a little younger than me in like high school and stuff. So it was cool. And all his like Roanoke buddies. Um,
No, I wasn't a buzzkill. I just, I just, I'm not the same. I just went to bed, you know, like I'm not used to going to bed on those trips. I just, but I wasn't, I didn't go to bed early. I definitely told like one night I went in and took a shower and then I was like, okay, yeah. Like you don't stay up late anymore, Craig, but it's your brother's bachelor party. So I like walked back in and everyone was like, we knew he was coming back. And you know, like that was,
I was like, yeah, I'm not going to all of a sudden be totally responsible. So no, they loved it. It was great. And the one kid didn't cheer. My friend Matt was like, yeah, I knew you were coming back. I was like, nice. But I'll be in Roanoke this weekend actually for a bachelor party.
I would say the most random spot to have a bachelor party. My buddy, Mintz. Yeah, explain that.
We're going to Ballyhack golf course. Oh, my God. I love that golf course. That course is going to kick your ass, Craig. They designed a – everyone gets a king-size room and their own bathroom, and they've designed this, like, golf tournament with your friends for the weekend, which actually sounds pretty cool. So it's like a Ryder Cup. Yeah. It's like you're in the U.K. It's like you stepped off a plane in Scotland when you're out there.
I'm actually very excited. Like we're playing a round of golf when we get there Friday and then two on Saturday. You can play in the morning on Sunday if you want, but I'll probably be golfed out. We have heard you talk about a bachelor party in St. Thomas, which as far as the USDIs go,
St. Thomas is like a party island. Okay. And, and so your brother clearly knew that or you want to go to the STIs and now you're going to a golf trip in Roanoke and you're stoked for it. I can tell. Cause it's going to be like, you know, like a much chiller and like reserved time with your friends while it seems to be like an upscale sort of thing.
Now, what's what what bachelor party are you going to throw? Like, what is what is yours going to look like? Yeah, I don't. I mean, that's a good question. The funny thing is, is like.
St. Thomas ended up being like a house party, bachelor party too. We could just like go out during the day. Right. Rono will be this similar. We're just like golfing during the day, but then like sitting around the fire and, you know, they have like a whiskey and wine tasting and like you can put under the lights. That sounds awesome, by the way. It sounds awesome. Yeah. I would either like to be,
Yeah.
I don't know. I'll have to check in after this weekend. But somewhere where it's just our friends. But I did miss having a casino for some reason that I was itching to gamble in St. Thomas. But other than that, having the boat... A boat day is very, very, very hard to beat when it comes to all your friends. Yeah. Yeah. And listening to you talk...
I'm like, wait, a snowboarding ship for mine could be awesome too. I mean, my, you know, as if that's coming fucking anytime soon, but like, I think about it, you know, sometimes, um,
But yeah, man, tell me how this one goes because I feel like the older that I get, older that we get, it's like what my friends who are already married and friends that would be coming to mine, coming to yours are already married. They have kids. So going to this Virginia one sounds like right up a lot of our friends' alleys at this point in life. Yeah. I mean, if I could afford it and could rent a big boat for all of us to stay on, that would be the...
Yeah. The dream one, but that would be very expensive. I mean, it's very expensive because we were looking at a boat for the USVIs. I was like, yeah, let's do that. And then we just kind of realized that like, basically these boats are like a four bedroom boat and they're like a hundred grand for the week.
And one of the bedrooms is obviously used by the captain. And so there's like, it becomes like a three bedroom boat where it should be like six, six people. But it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It really wouldn't be possible for your bachelor party unless, like you said, like, yes, I'm spending 250k for us to be on a boat for that movie.
Yeah, which is crazy. But if anyone wants to gift us a boat, that'd be cool. Hey, let's take a quick break while Austin bounces up and down in the back of this RV and pay for our light bills.
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Welcome back to Pillows and Beer. I'm Craig Conover. Be sure to follow us at Pillows, the letter N, Beer on Instagram. Check out our website, pillowsandbeer.com. Leave us some voice messages. I'm joined with Austin Kroll who's on his way to a Phish concert in Delaware in the back of an RV. And Nick Norris, our producer. What else has been going on in life, guys? Shoot, the Olympics are over, which...
I'm headed out to the Paralympics in Paris, actually, with Team USA soon. But some controversy ending the Olympics, which annoys me. I don't know if you guys saw that with our gymnast losing her bronze medal.
I did see that and that was horrible to see, you know, but like even in the moment, right? As, as I'm rooting for Team USA, of course, uh, I want, you know, every athlete to medal. And when that Romanians medal got stripped, like, like my heart broke for her in the moment, not like, it was,
it was like a catch 22 of like, you know, she's like, Oh my God, I did it. I meddled, I meddled. And then I got taken and now ours is getting taken. And like her, her heart is broken. And she, and she, uh, and she took like a social media, uh, hiatus. And I mean, she's at my heart breaks for both of them. It's ridiculous. I just, I think it should be based on, uh,
your performance and skill and not these like semantics and red tape and nuances. And it sucks, you know, like they, we didn't get our evidence in time. You know, they found a video that proved that we actually weren't in the wrong, but like it was submitted too late. And you're just like, who won? Like whose performance was better? Was it the bronze medal? Like,
I just hate that. Like it should be judged solely on, obviously there's rules, but that's for efficiency, but the rules, you're not awarding the medal to who follows the rules better. You know, like that's, I kind of, well, well, if, if,
Well, going off of what you said, then, I mean, Simone for sure deserves gold. You know, Shelly didn't get gold because she quite literally went out of the red tape twice, right? Which is like a third of a point, third of a point. And then, you know, she lost by, you know, whatever. Yeah, but that's based off your performance. I'm talking about, like, they didn't submit paperwork in time. Oh, okay.
Oh, okay. So maybe I'm not as versed in this as I think I am. Yeah, no. Obviously, if you don't land your trick inside of the... Yeah, no. No, I'm talking about our coach took an extra 40 seconds, they thought, to hand in the form. And that's why she lost her medal. That's... Yeah, that's... Basically. That's terrible. And then just to hop around, we've got...
Fall stuff, I've started to notice. I was just in the airport today, coming back from New York, and pumpkin stuff is out, which...
I like pumpkin stuff, but it is funny to see some Halloween things being put out. And I was like, really? It's only August. Okay, guys. Fall. So going to Delaware right now marks like the end of my summer. As far as I'm concerned, when I get back from Delaware, I'm drinking alcohol.
like Oktoberfest beers and pumpkin stuff. And as far as I'm concerned, it's fall, even though that Charleston weather will, you know, fucking dictate that to like November, uh,
It is fall in my mind. And I might even watch like Casper. I don't know. I might go crazy because I'm excited for fall. And I actually picked up a bunch of Oktoberfest beers to bring to this festival. I had to go to Harris Eaters, Craig. There's like a whole section right now for pumpkin beers and all that stuff. So it happens earlier and earlier every year.
I'm here for it. I'm here for it. My summer's over after this trip, and I'm ready for it. That's my hot take. Yeah, I mean, I don't ever mind the changing of the seasons. Our fall is so nice here. I think I had a lot more...
I was a lot more against it when I lived somewhere where the fall meant the weather was seriously changing. And I'd be like, I'm not ready for that yet. But in Charleston, it's so mellow that it doesn't get cold here until January. Yeah, yeah. You don't even really notice fall in Charleston.
Like maybe, maybe one day you'll like wake up and there's like a brisk. You're like, wait a minute. I feel it. Is that fall? And then like the next day it'll be like 86 degrees. You're like, oh, well that sucks.
um i think that i'm gonna take like a fall trip by by the way craig because every year when i'm watching you know these movies around halloween time and they show like a they show the like i idyllic fall town i'm like i really want to take a trip there next year and i've been saying that for years and years so like i feel like i want to go to like salem or something like that
If we have time. I mean, you and I are going to be at London in October, man, leading up to Halloween. That's actually probably going to be really, really, really nice fall weather. Yeah, that'll be cool. Yes. Our friend Taylor Page's makeup artist, she was just talking about all the Christmas marts in Europe, like Copenhagen and stuff. And I was like, God, that would be really cool. Yeah. Amsterdam and
I've been to one in Prague. I've been to one in Vienna. And they are really, really cool. Like exactly what you would think. But their Christmas treats and such are just totally different than ours. Totally different.
I wish I knew the names, but it's like bread that's swirled on a stick. It's hollow on the inside. There's all sorts of tickle shit going on. And a Christmas market, Craig, I think that you should try and figure out which one that you want to hit and go to walk. Because they are so worth it. And they would scratch your Christmas itch perfectly. Perfectly.
I know it really is. I just was watching. I watched the Princess Diaries for the first time the other day. And what? The first time? Anne Hathaway? Yeah. I had never seen it before. I actually just watched the second one the other day, Craig. Fucking Princess of Genovia. It's classic. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was very surprised that I hadn't seen it. But Paige was like.
Paige told me to watch it. She was like, well, yeah, if you haven't watched it, she was like, that's right up your alley. The second one with Chris Pine, man, I didn't like it. I didn't like it. I haven't finished that one yet. I'm re-watching Chuck right now, which is like, it's so freaking weird to me because it's taking me back to a time where I know where I was watching it, but I was a little depressed back then. But like,
Not too depressed, but I know where I was when I binge watched that entire show. Like I lived on Radcliffe Street and Chuck is one of the best shows, I think, for me ever. Who's the actor?
Has he ever done anything since or was that like his thing? Yeah, he played the superhero in Shazam. Oh, Shazam. Right, right, right. And then he was Zachary Levine is his name. But like the girl that plays Sarah Walker, like I looked it up like they were she was like 27 when she filmed that show. And I was like, what an awesome role.
For her to be able to play this special agent. Okay, well, I've never watched Chuck, but I just want to remind you all that Craig is a very network television series guy. Craig loves his USA shows and things like that, and I typically don't. I typically watch the hour-long things that come out on Hulu and on Netflix and here and there.
And that's why I never got into Chuck. So Chuck is about a nerd that works at like the geek stand in like Best Buy. But he's cool. Like you could tell he was destined for greater things.
but he's cool but he's cool and he accidentally gets this government super computer like all the data goes into his brain so all the government secrets and so this girl from the cia and this guy from the nsa are assigned to protect him and he has to go on like missions with them while keeping his cover of working at the best buy and so they just go on missions together and
His cover is obviously dating this girl, like this, you know, very attractive girl. And, you know, obviously like he falls for her and stuff. But like the guy from white collar is like in it a little bit like the head guy from white collar. It's just great. It's perfect. And I love it. And I want to be a spy. I want to be a secret. I want to play a spy on a show.
Okay, so Crenn's watching Chuck and I'm watching Dexter for the first time. Yeah, Special Force Soldier. Chuck is great and it gets better before it doesn't. I'm watching Dexter.
Which is like the opposite of what you're watching. Great show. Yeah, I never watched it. I never watched it and I'm watching it. And now they're saying that they're going to reboot it. So now I'm like, wait, I have to like race through this freaking show. The only thing about Dexter, it sounds that, well, I don't know if you've seen it, Craig, but it sounds like that Nick has. The only thing that is kind of like making me lose the intrigue on it
is that I know that if there's eight seasons, that he doesn't get caught. He doesn't get caught some more. He doesn't get caught some more. So I kind of already know the spoiler, whereas if you're watching it for the first time, you're like, oh my God, this is it. He's about to get caught. There's no way that he doesn't get caught. Wait, okay, he didn't get caught because jokes freaking blew up in a part. All this shit. So it's like I kind of already know it's like the ultimate spoiler. And I'm like, well, it's not going to happen until like season seven minimum.
But anyways, that's just my texture. I saw a couple episodes of that. I don't know, but not done. Yeah, I don't know if it's for you, Craig. Nip Tuck was about as dark as I got. Like the Nip Tuck show. I do because I have an interview. Yeah, but Nip Tuck had some darkness to it, like the one part. Yeah.
I have to hop off, but you can Nick and stay on for a second. I've got an interview with the Williamson from Nashville that we could not figure out a way to make work with the storms. And then I'm going to go check. What is the Williamson for the, like it's a, an article or like a periodical from Nashville, I think. All right. I do have to hop on that. I love you all besties. And I will see you soon. Bye Austin. Bye Nick. Have fun. Awesome. But I'll text you.
Okay, besties. So we know that Craig just left, but I'm going to leave you with a fun fact, okay, about why the British wore red coats. Okay, so a couple weeks ago, I gave you guys facts about Napoleon, and I gave you facts about the Salem Witch Trials, which I'm going to try to go to in October. And if you've made it this far, then you get a little factoid, which I was going to read anyways, and it's about the British red coats. Okay, so...
You remember how if you're watching movies or whatever and like they're walking and like meet, meet, meet little lines playing drums while like, you know, cannon fires, you know, just sending like upon them and all this stuff. And you're like, what? Idiots like I can spot you guys from a mile away. And you're so proud of your, you know, tradition of wearing, you know, your wings and playing drums while you get fire hailed on you from us.
But the reason, okay, so A, they had about 25,000 troops in service. So wool was like the cheapest thing to manufacture. B, generals and the commanding officers that were watching them from the hills should like see their own soldiers. And therefore, if there was smoke and all this shit, then like they were easier to, you know, direct, right? Yeah.
And someone was like, and it was also thought that if you get hit by a bullet or a shrapnel that you couldn't tell, that's not true because your blood would bleed redder than that blood and leave like a big old, like darker stain on it. But it was all the things that we think it is, right? It like, you know, kind of depicted like a rich elegance. It was cheap.
And the generals can see their men and furthermore, couldn't spot a deserter from a mile away.
And that is why the red coats wore red. And I've made fun of them in every movie I've ever seen where there's a British red coat. Cause I'm like, what an idiot. Like I, I can pick, pick you off a mile away, but apparently there was a rhyme to their reason. Anyways, besties, we're going to wrap up our show here. I'm sorry for all the clips that Nick has posted of me bouncing around. I am lying in the bed.
In the back of the RV, Nick gets a little view here of the cars behind us. And I love you all. And I'm glad that we made it work this week, even though our schedules are hectic. But Nick, are you there? Don't be froze for a second. Okay. That's fine, though, because it's recording locally on your phone. Okay. Well, love you, besties. Thanks for listening. And see you next week. Same time. Bye.
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