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Lovely producer and a lot of time stand-in co-host. What's up, Nick? How are you? I am better than a Boeing whistleblower, is what I am. Yeah. Yeah. I saw someone was like calling. It was a meme that was like, I'm calling up Boeing to tell my girlfriend's a whistleblower after seeing her on a yacht in Miami on spring break. Right.

Yeah. No, I just keep seeing all the articles and now the bigger news networks are picking it up. I'm like, I think I've watched too much TV or it's actually real. Oh, no, it's well, I'm not getting involved. But the second. Yeah. I mean, I think it's I truly believe because I've seen so much scripted television. Like I grew up watching Scandal and Alias and 24 and like.

I truly believe that they're inspired by things that have happened. Like I understand there's creative people out there, but working in TV, like we draw on things that are in real life. So to me, when I see this stuff, it just reminds me of like episodes of the blacklist or we'll be like, well, that's just TV, Craig, but like writers are creative, but they're not,

I mean, there's real life inspiration somewhere. Oh, 100%. Yeah. Terminalist, Jack Reacher, all of those. Oh, yeah. I mean, that guy, he served. Like, he was in a unit. Like, he draws off personal experience. Like, he does. Yeah. Who is it that, you know, the Terminalist guy, I'm pretty sure is an old. Is that Tom Clancy? Yeah. Is it?

I think it might be. That sounds right. Or did he serve? Yeah. There's so much more right shit that I follow on TikTok. And see, I understand how you're like, oh, well, Craig just says shit. Well, yes, that is true. But my brain doesn't retain all of the information I see, but it retains the gist of it. But I'm up here in New York City at our new apartment. Well, 90%.

pretty much a hundred percent pages. But if you measured the closet that I do have now, um, I'd say it's bigger than her old place. Yeah. Yeah. It's, um, it's a little over twice the size of the old, old apartment, which, yeah, it's funny because I get nostalgic about stuff. And like the first few days I was like, you know, how are you doing? Like,

Do you just want to go home sometimes? Which means like go back to our old apartment. And I think it was just because there's like not a ton of furniture here yet. But after the fourth day, she was like, I'm never, you know, this is my, I have acclimated to this apartment and I don't even know how I did it before. But it was nice because we have so many memories there of when we first started a date and she had just kind of like moved in and she

I mean, it was an amazing apartment by all, like, by New York standards, definitely. But it was still, like, if you don't live in New York City, I guess it felt like a, you know, like the beginning of a Hallmark movie or something where you live in, like, a small place together. The point is, is, like, her place was great, but it wasn't, like, a huge place like this. And my house was still under construction when we started to hang out.

Right now there's only like a bed in here, which is kind of funny. So we're like living out of the bedroom, but. It's always how it goes. When's the big move happen? You know, it's a little unsure when everything gets here. I think in like another week or two, but I'm actually going to meet her in Midtown to film her new show for which is exciting. I think.

i don't know if it's been announced yet or not but i mean the fact that she has a new project is announced but i am going to do the new project today and then tomorrow i'll be on her amazon live for the first time um but it was funny because they had me pick like nightstand essentials and like i always keep like a tactical knife by my bed

Like, like a full. I mean, that's, I keep a, I keep a golf club or a baseball bat. So. Yeah. So it was funny. Cause you know, I picked my items and, um, I just, I don't know why, but I put like this, you know, this knife on there and they were like, do you think we could use a flashlight instead of a knife? And I said, yeah, that's great too. Everyone should have a flashlight also in their nightstand. Um,

I mean, I figured they weren't going to let me leave the knife on there, but I do get them off Amazon. So we're excited for that. I'm proud of, proud of her. And it's yeah, it's just, it's been a funny spring, I guess. Charleston's beautiful. Yeah. Busy one coming up. Cause you're gonna be in Nashville a lot here shortly. Right. Aren't you? Yeah. Yeah. We Shep came to Nashville with me, which was really fun. Actually. We've, we signed the lease and,

on our store in Nashville, which all of our besties know that we were working on. It's right in 12 South. It's really, you know, like the cards just,

fell in the right place where I had been talking about I'd been manifesting a Nashville store like when I was on when I would do home shows like you know like you were with me a lot of the times like I would just tell people straight up like if we have a second store it's going to be in Nashville or we're opening a Nashville store like way before we were seriously this was a year this was years ago too this wasn't just recently yeah and for some reason we just like

I guess Jerry gave our real estate agent the green light to just keep his eyes open. And just this perfect storm happened where there was a sale of a building. The old tenants didn't want to leave, but they kind of, I don't know what happened, but this thing would not have lasted. And I don't think Jerry really thought we were going to find somewhere that fast, but that's what happens. And, you know, if you're going to do something, you might as well do it right. And we're right now.

Right in the middle of 12 South. And it was really neat to see Shep's reaction because he went to Vanderbilt Business School. So he said when he was in school there, 12 South just started to come up. And for those that don't know,

you know, there's Broadway in Nashville, which is where all the country bars are, all the country singer bars. Then there's the Gulch, which is an area on its own of like hotels and restaurants and shops. And then 12 South is somewhere that you go and like park your car, you know, put the kids in the stroller and spend a day, you know, kind of shopping around. There's really great outdoor restaurants and barbecue places and some really famous shopping places.

But I had to sign a personal guarantee, which Jerry was like, they want you to do it. I was like, I don't think they said that. I don't think that's how it works. I think someone from the company just has to sign it. I think it's his way of being like, you're going to make sure that this works one way or the other. But I was okay with it because you have to stand by it and you have to take risks. And it's about three times more expensive than Charleston.

But I'm excited. Like, you know, we put ourselves right next to Jenny's again, which is funny. I was like, maybe we're just going to follow Jenny's like how some developers follow Starbucks. Yeah. You know, they don't buy investment properties unless they're within three miles of a Starbucks. Maybe we do that with Jenny's ice cream. That's funny. I didn't even, I, Jerry told me that I was like, wait, isn't that the place right down by you guys? I didn't realize they were a chain. Yeah. Yeah. So,

Yeah. So we're, we're looking to open in about five weeks, like in the middle of June. Um, and so, yeah, I'll be spending half my time in Nashville. Um, shout out to the dream hotel. They like hooked Shep and I up. Um,

And they were so friendly. Like when I won, when I got in my room, they had spritz there and were like, congratulations on your investment in spritz. And they had like a cheese plate and popcorn and they had doggy treats for little Craig. I mean, he wasn't, Shep took him home to home. Um, that's fun. It was cool. Um,

And it was neat to share it with a chef, but you'll see more of that coming up. But yeah, so the, the Nashville store is, is happening. We just ordered all of our inventory for the store. It's funny. Cause like, you know, we're doing well, but we're in this stage of growth where the influx of capital that we have to keep pumping into the business is like a lot because you know, you got to,

There's just bigger, basically, I'm like, where is all our money? Well, it comes down to sometimes you got to spend money to make money. You know, like Amanda and I are like, Jerry, where have you moved? Like, where is all of our money? And he's like, shut up. But, you know, it's eventually, you know, it'll catch back up to you, which is good. But, you know, things like the Kroger collaborations and stuff, like it takes like a couple of years before you see,

It's really wild the way payment structures work. And I didn't realize that until going into like a manufacturing business. Because you've heard me tell people before, like when we started Sewing Down South, we would, someone would buy a pillow online, then we would take their money and have the pillow made. Because you don't have to pay...

like your vendors sometimes for like 60 days, whatever. I know it's kind of boring, but it's interesting. So if people have questions about that, they can always email us. But let's take a quick break to pay those bills and be great back. Customers are rushing to your store. Do you have a point of sale system you can trust? Or is it a real POS? You need Shopify for retail.

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But MitoPure does more than just help with my muscles. It can help with health stand as well. I want to be one of those granddads one day that you see in the video of him swinging his grandkid around. I want to rely on myself for as long as I possibly can. One way to think of MitoPure is that they are in your cells, chomping up the damaged mitochondria that makes you feel old and tired and helping to recycle it into new healthy ones.

Mitochondria, our cell's power generators, are one of the key influences in how we age. However, as the years pass, mitochondrial efficiency naturally declines, representing a large gap in the quality of life we expect in our later years and the one we experience.

Taking two soft gels a day for two months and you could see significant improvements in your cellular energy, muscle strength, and endurance. After four months of taking Mito Pure, you might feel yourself getting stronger, recovering faster after a workout, and experiencing less inflammation, all part of your healthier aging routine, which is honestly amazing.

Timeline is offering 10% off your first order of Mito Pure. Go to timeline.com slash pillowsandbeer. That's T-I-M-E-L-I-N-E dot com slash pillowsandbeer. These statements and products have not been evaluated by the Friedenslug administration. These products are not invented by no street pure manufacturer.

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Get your first month free at greenlight.com slash pod. Greenlight.com slash pod. Welcome back to Pillows and Beers. Besties, Austin and I are in the middle of our project in the South. So we're recording separately for a little bit. But we got our trusty co-host, Phil and Nick, producer extraordinaire. There's like the world is just a...

Crazy place right now. I, for one, am trying to enjoy the peace before the election storm because... It's going to be... You thought the last few times we've been brutal? It's going to get really ugly. Yeah, like no matter who you are, no matter what side you're on, this is going to suck forever. Yes. Because the way that they keep the system moving...

And the direction that they want is by dividing everyone. And yeah, especially for someone like me, who's right down the middle, who I finally put a app blocker on my phone. So I can't get on like Twitter and stuff from 10 p.m. to 830 a.m. Because I just found myself just reading shit up till like, you know, 2 a.m. in the morning. I'm like, this isn't healthy. I got to block myself from being able to do this. Oh, that's interesting. What's it called? They use.

What is it called? I have the opposite problem. When I wake up, I try not to look right at my phone, but eventually I get on my phone and I'll open Instagram and see something. And like, it really fucks my entire day up until I go to the gym and like work out my frustration. Cause I'm just like, what gets me is like, sometimes I just think,

I get frustrated with people getting taken advantage of and fooled. And I'm just like, how can you not see through this? How can you not ask yourself one time, could someone be benefiting from sharing this information or falsifying this information? That's nothing new. I mean, look at, you can go back in time when their goddamn feudal system in Europe, when it was one guy convincing a whole population to work for him for free.

um oh i know i mean them but by protecting them they had to fight for him yeah we were watching some show page had a netflix show on last night about it's like a bridgerton spinoff or the queen spinoff or something and it was about king george the third or eighth he's crazy he was basically just had like panic attacks and so they thought he was crazy um and but yeah i think

The divide though is comes in the form of making people hate each other. And so then you go outside and like, say hi to your neighbor. And like, you're like, you know, or go to the grocery store and you're like, okay, like not everyone hates each other. It's really just, you know, I, I have a, an interesting theory that I don't know if I'm overstepping into the dangerous, like, I don't want to.

I want to be a political friend and make money off of all this stuff. I don't want to be a political enemy. But I really think that after Occupy Wall Street, the top people agreed to never let them get focused in on them again. They were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We do not want this attention on us. Let's keep everyone hating each other instead of

teaming together and hating us. And, you know, there are motives in doing that. Like, if the population hates each other, they're way less likely to start to pick apart what y'all are doing at the top. Yeah. Yeah, that's very true. Yeah, I don't know. We're just...

There's so many things I wish I could say, but Jerry would punch me if I said it. Um, so I got to keep my mouth shut. That's why I'm, that's why mine's very like neutral in the sense that it's going to suck for everyone. I mean, the news is going to turn dark no matter what news you watch. Like it's going to start to be like doomsday ish instead of people realizing how fricking doomsday the world really is right now. Um,

That's for another podcast, though. The international relations right now are so bad that things are happening right now in the world that have never happened in the history of the United States. But I'm just saying, let's appreciate the blissful ignorance before... Yeah, we got what? It's usually end of July. It really starts to pick up beginning of August. Yeah, I still think that I...

I should just, they should just put me in office. And it's a lot of this stuff. Paige thinks she's like, you have to be the biggest narcissist to think that you would make a good president. And then like a couple, how she tells the story. She's like a couple of days later, we were driving down the road and you were, and I was like, you know, I think I could do it. And she's like, do what? I was like, I think I could be the president. I honestly think I could, I could be in office too. Yeah. I mean, I,

But I think you have to be a little bit of a narcissist to convince yourself that you can fix things. Well, I don't think, I don't think. Narcissism is the right word, but. No, it's not narcissism. It's self-confidence and like, no, I don't think if I was in, if I was the president, everything would be fixed because that's not how the system set up. But I think I'm good at mediating parties. I think I'm good at compromise. I think I'm good at figuring out what both,

parties and an argument, like even on my show, our show, want out of something. And I can see through it. Like I used to be in family court and, you know, everyone wants a little something different. And I also, I love meeting people. So I think the campaigning side of it, the problem is, is I have 10 years, 12 years of footage for the opposition to use against me. This is terrible.

Being like, you want this guy as your president? He's, you know, and it's just one clip after another of me yelling at someone or crying or being- Hey, I mean, Trump got elected. He was on reality TV for a while. I mean, that's the argument that people say, right? Well, if Trump could do it, I guess any reality person could. But, you know, he also had a big commercial real estate company. Manufacturing?

Hey, I'm just saying there are bones in my body that like, because of the fact that I enjoy meeting so many people like at our events and stuff and, um, you know, how I'll stay till like the midnight oil to see everyone. Like I think the campaigning aspect, but I also would just get too angry the whole time and how inefficient the whole process is because you have to spend so much money to win that I'd be like,

Why can't we take this money and use it for something worthwhile? I would love to run for office, but like you said, the whole thing, even just if it was local office, it still just costs so much money to do that. Do you think so? Especially in like Virginia where I am. Like, I mean, it's a bigger area. It's a very wealthy area and you're going against bigger names because, you know.

I can't say my exact wording of it, but you're going against people that have the money to spend and nothing else to do. Yeah. So I think for me, I'm in a position or in a place where like, I just want to keep my head down and keep grinding right now. And I think there is something to be said about like keeping your, like when you're trying to grow a business or grow like a career, like,

It's a catch-22 because a lot of our career is on television, but I think you invite negative energy if you are too out there. I think trying to keep your head down and staying as humble as possible is so important. We just inadvertently...

make ourselves targets because we don't have a control over being out there. Like whether we like it or not, we're, we're being broadcasted to the country, you know, weekly, um, which I enjoy. It's just the last thing I need to do is run for office right now and be completely shot out of it. I mean, make for good television.

Yeah, Thomas did it. He ran for office while on Southern Jar. I mean, that was wild. Oh, man.

Well, all right, let's just take another quick break, and we'll be right back with Pillows and Beef. I would like to talk to you about one of our sponsors, Timeline Nutrition, and one product in particular, MitoPure. MitoPure is one of the first products to offer a precise dose of urolithin A to help upgrade your mitochondrial function, help increase cellular energy, and help improve muscle strength and endurance. I've started taking it recently and have started to tell that there is definitely when I work out or I'm active.

But MitoPure does more than just help with my muscles. It can help with health stand as well. I want to be one of those granddads one day that you see in the video of him swinging his grandkid around. I want to rely on myself for as long as I possibly can. One way to think of MitoPure is that they are in your cells, chomping up the damaged mitochondria that makes you feel old and tired and helping to recycle it into new healthy ones.

Mitochondria, our cell's power generators, are one of the key influences in how we age. However, as the years pass, mitochondrial efficiency naturally declines, representing a large gap in the quality of life we expect in our later years and the one we experience.

Taking two soft gels a day for two months and you could see significant improvements in your cellular energy, muscle strength, and endurance. After four months of taking Mito Pure, you might feel yourself getting stronger, recovering faster after a workout, and experiencing less inflammation, all part of your healthier aging routine, which is honestly amazing.

Timeline is offering 10% off your first order of Mito Pure. Go to timeline.com slash pillowsandbeer. That's T-I-M-E-L-I-N-E dot com slash pillowsandbeer. These statements and products have not been evaluated by the Friedenslog administration. These products are not invented by no street pure.

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Get your first month free at greenlight.com slash pod greenlight.com slash pod. Yeah. So it's, um, interesting time to be alive, but I've got a, I went to a bee farm to on a little different topic, me and page. We, um, yeah, we got, I just got my boxes painted, um,

because you have to prime them since they'll be outside. And bees actually don't like dark colors because they're trained through history or whatever. They relate dark colors to bears, so they don't fuck with dark colors at all. If your boxes are painted brown or black, they're just like, I don't really want to go over there.

So we did like a light pink. I'm not sure how to go about getting the queen bee. Like I know you can capture like a swarm. I think I'm going to ask the farm that we went to and in Charleston to give me a queen bee. I don't really know how it works, but I do know that like the only thing that makes a queen bee different than the rest of the

is that when it's a baby, they feed it royal jelly, which Paige and I are pretty sure royal jelly just means they feed the baby pure honey. Paige was a little nervous about

I would like rightfully so. But in the suit, I was I felt fine. And the beekeeper was like, look, the bees are just very curious animals, but they really don't want to like mess with you at all. Like their sole priority and goal is working for the hive and like doing their job. And apparently that that was true. Like they didn't care that we were there at all. No, no.

And then she scoops them up and put them on my arm. And so both of your arms start vibrating. But the frequency at which a bee vibrates is actually the purest frequency in nature, in our bodies. And so...

I got Paige to do it. And it's like the most calming thing ever. And apparently by having bees in your yard, it makes your yard like kind of vibrate to that frequency. I love that. I bounce all over. I'm like talking about international relations. I'm like, you know what? I think I could fix things with North Korea.

As long as I'm tending to my bees and my little life in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina. Yeah, they're not yellow jackets. They're not going to come at you with a vengeance. Honeybees are like super docile. Yeah, they really were. And what happens is if they sting you, it releases a pheromone, which like the other bees are like, oh, we have to see if there's danger over there. But I'm excited to start like gifting honey as my presence. I'm going to be that guy. Yeah.

You're going to the special sewing down South, have it at the flagship. Yeah. Oh, maybe I want to do like a Bumble. Well, we already have a Bumble. But hopefully everyone's been seeing our stuff and their Kroger's. I know people are looking and I appreciate our besties. They're supposed to be at all Kroger's. I know my aunt's having a really tough time in Virginia beach, finding it. It takes time. A lot of stores.

They do have a lot of stores. I think we're in like 2000. And then this fall is our big rollout of bakeware and all of that, that good stuff.

This wasn't the official launch, even though to me, like, I don't know. I can't even explain it. Basically, if you already see me in the store, you would think that that was our launch, but it's not. It's going to, there's like a huge launch that happens this fall where we'll have more real estate. They do like soft launch. It's like restaurants. You do your soft opening and then you do your grand opening. But a lot of people are like, well, it's a soft opening. It's open. Well, it's not. Yes, that's exactly what's happening.

So it's, you know, just one foot in front of the other and excited to, my life is so full of unknowns, which I was never a planner. Maybe that's what like, I spent my whole life being like ADD and procrastinating and not being a planner to prepare me for this like multi-directional life, which I do love, but it weighs on you a little bit by like,

moving. Our schedules are just unpredictable right now. That's not a complaint. I'm just saying that like I called my mom yesterday and we were supposed to be out of the country next week.

And they got moved. And I was like, mom, you wouldn't fricking die. Like living this, like we had moved all of these plans around for sewing down South because I was supposed to be out of the country. Now I'm not, but now I, something got moved. And so we had to reschedule everything for next week, like on the drop of a hat. And like, I guess there's no relevant to, uh, well, I can't tell you, but we're going somewhere. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Well, guys, it was great to check back in. Sorry I missed you last week. We've got some exciting things to come. I hope everyone's having a great spring. I know my friend in Colorado just sent me a video of it snowing. That was crazy because shout out to Alex. But because in Charleston, it has been in the 80s for a couple of weeks now. So.

Yeah, no, same here. Mid-70s, mid-80s, couple 90s. All right, well, thanks, Nick. I'm going to head down to Midtown to film something with Paige. And besties, I love you all, and we'll see you soon. OneKey cards earn 3% in OneKey cash for travel at grocery stores, restaurants, and gas stations. So the more you spend on groceries, dining, and gas, the sooner you can use OneKey cash towards your next trip on Expedia, Hotels.com, and Vrbo. And get away from...

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