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host uh craig just kidding uh and nick norris we are um coming to i'm coming to you live for the first time uh from charleston in almost four weeks um i'm so happy to be home i did but we just got back from phoenix we had an incredible show there an incredible time i thought i mean i'm still in phoenix so because i'm an idiot but i uh
I think it's, I love, I didn't really know what to expect going out here for good things, but the show is great. How are your light shielding?
Good. Well, so I'll tell everyone the boneheaded mood that I did, and then we'll get to our hike. So I decided to take the red-eye flight. I have to be back. We're actually doing a little country boys weekend tomorrow here in South Carolina. One of my buddies got, I don't know what he did, but he basically purchased like a plow, like a,
like a little inn in the country, like an hour outside of Charleston, not an inn, but like an Airbnb. And so we're going to go out there and like shoot shot, you know, shoot targets and clay pigeons and smoke meat. And it's all my college best friends. I call them my groomsmen level friends. We've got a text group, BWBB, but yeah,
We're going to go sit around the fire and do guy stuff. Well, I just do do country stuff, not guy stuff, because I did it with plenty of friends that were girls in Delaware. But it's going to be really cool to connect with the earth again after being in so many cities and just ground myself. I think that's what it's called when you touch the earth. But so I I took the red eye home and
When in reality, I should have just taken the 7 a.m. flight that got in at 2 p.m. because once I finally got back to Charles, I ran in one of those minute suites in Atlanta for two hours. I guess they're having a hard time staying in business. It's a little creepy, but when you're really tired... Wait, what is that? A minute suite? What does that mean? You can rent it for a half hour, an hour, or 15-minute increments. And it's a little...
like a little studio box. Like when you go in, there's a desk, a TV, and then a, um, what looks to be a pullout couch, but it's just a couch. Um, and they give you a blanket and a pillow. And so like when you're deathly tired, it's awesome. And you just turn the lights out and they come knock and wake you up. Um, it's very private. Sometimes I wonder if like,
more nefarious things goes in there. Like with, I don't know, but I was so tired because I left Phoenix at 12 at night and I got to Atlanta at three in the morning, except it was five in the morning East time. And then my flight to Charleston wasn't until eight. So it was just, it wasn't necessary. And I ended up passing out when I got home and woke up at two 30 and
when I could have woken up at 5 30 in Phoenix taking the 7 a.m flight and then worked on my computer the whole way here anyway doesn't matter shout out to Phoenix Sky Club for staying open until 12 30 because of all the red eyes um I really enjoyed the people in Phoenix I think um it's neat going to different areas of the country because you know people are different and there's definitely like a
I don't want to say like a funkiness, but like an interesting, like people are different, you know, in Phoenix than they are other places, which is fine and great. And talking about getting grounded and connected to nature, we went for a hike in Phoenix. We hiked something called Camelback Mountain. And, you know, Paige told me, I caught her when we were about to go.
And she was like, I just want you to know that that's never going to be me. I'm never going to be hiking with you. And I was like, yeah, but if I asked you to do it, you would. And she's like, no, I'm just not. And I texted her when we got done the hike and I said, I get it. You're definitely not a hiker. And that's because, Nick, I'll tell you, I really...
To me, hike meant nature walk because I'm from Delaware, which is a flat state. You know, the highest elevation in Delaware is like, I think, 15 feet. We live in the low country in Charleston. I spent a lot of time at sea level. And so hiking to me is what we did is like what I did as kids is going through the woods.
you know, walking through trees and there being a little bit of terrain. And I really, and like, I like that. So I was always like, well, why wouldn't you want to do that with me, Paige? But I discovered what hiking in reality is. Well, that was extreme. That was, for me, I'd rate it, because I like to do a lot of hiking and there are, you know, trails that are on the mountain, but it's just walking through woods. You get some pretty views. I'm going to put that on like a seven, seven and a half out.
for me and that's how yeah we were using our hands like to actually climb up this mountain and at time like in the beginning you have to use these like railings or you'll slip and fall and you just took your time with it going up and it was really fun i i actually really enjoyed it um
It's funny because Austin and I have done one other thing like this, and we did it in Aspen, and we weren't prepared for that either. And the altitude really got us. Well, I was going to say, that's a little different. You're 8,000 feet there. Yeah. But Austin, you know, you just, me, it was Nick, who was the quickest, and then Rodrigo from our show. And his, are they engaged? Oh, I'm so bad with this. But Tyler, and they've done it a couple times. So they picked this up.
And, you know, a lot of times we just end up staying in our hotel rooms or in towns because the travel starts to weigh on you. But there was no reason not to do this. So I'm pumped we did it. But, you know, the mountain is shaped like a camel, which it legitimately looks like a camel is just stonified or whatever it's called when something's cast to stone or made in rock. Yeah.
And it was neat. You just took your time. I actually used Instacart to deliver me shoes from Dick's that morning, which it really is nice being able to have things delivered. I've had pajamas and stuff on the road delivered to me. Yeah, and pre-workout and stuff. But you just took your time and tried to zigzag. Well, zigzagging was more important coming down.
But we, you know, we made it to the top. We did it in about an hour. And that was an hour of pretty strenuous climbing. I was surprised with how much I used my hands. And, you know, when I started to have to use my hands to go up, I was like, this, I'm sure everyone in a hiking area knows that it is an, you know,
can be close to like an extreme sport or dangerous sport but if you are not from a hiking area you don't know that like i feel like people like coming down especially like coming down really freaked me out um because you really have to take your time and i really had to cut like my shut my adb off and not like look around and uh no you just gotta be eyes down yeah it'll be much worse
Which I hated that part even going up. I was like, I don't like staring at the, you know, the ground. Yeah. But I guess, figure it out. But, you know, if you're going to a ski mountain, most people are like,
I can't just go on to the mountain and go skiing or I could get hurt. You know, I mean, it doesn't stop a lot of people, but hiking doesn't strike me as something you can get hurt at. And I was like, this is, you could die when we were on that mountain. If you weren't, you know, like if you, like, I wouldn't have felt comfortable taking beers to the top of that mountain.
Like maybe one, but like coming down, if you made like the wrong move, you would have done hurt. No, you do not want to be impaired on a downhill hike like that. There are hikes, like that is definitely on the more extreme side for hiking. Like 90% of the hikes out by us are hard. They might be steep, but it's rare that you got to use your hands.
That I will say. Well, I guess it was just stone. It was very rock. Like we were climbing on rock. You were climbing a landslide pretty much like you said. Yeah, that's what it was. That's exactly what it was. So it was really cool. And man, I will tell you that, you know, I don't drink that much anymore, which everyone knows. But when you do something like that,
you really earn like a nice lunch and outdoor like beer. I guess there's communities and people that like ride bikes to different bars and run and stuff. And I'm sure there's hiking clubs, but that was so fun. So we got to the bottom of the mountain, which honestly that was the most annoying part for me was the last time
Like the bottom of the hill when you just had to walk a whole bunch to get to the bottom. Like it finally flattened out, but you're like, all right. Like my legs were locking up a little bit. But we went to a cool brewery called like, I mean, Nick got down 20 minutes ahead of us. It was pretty remarkable.
No rattlesnakes. No rattlesnakes. They say during the summer there's helicopters in the air and ambulances on standby because of the heat exhaustion. No, yeah. When I had a hike like that and the heat is, that is not for, not to the faint of heart there. But yeah, no, it was nice. I kept saying it wrong. Oshu or Omsho. Yeah, Oshu.
It was a nano brewery, which peaked Austin's. It was funny. We were walking down and me and Austin were on the same base for the most part. I was like, I really want Mexican food. And Rod Rigo is from, you know, his family's Mexican. And he was talking about his mom's cooking and how him and Tyler go to Mexico City and like his grandmother's cooking. And I was like, I really want Mexican food right now. Like something of,
But Austin wanted to go to a brewery and I'm glad we did. I had a nice nitro doubt, nitro Porter, nitro stout, which everyone, yeah, it's basically a fancier Guinness, um,
which is an odd selection, I guess, on a hot outdoors day. Most other people got Mexican lager. It was nice. We were in the shade. It was breezy. It was like a nice day. I was fine for that. It was so good. It's like, it reminds me of like a coffee flavored drink. And it was just that sitting in that bar is when I was, or like at that restaurant outside was, I was like, okay, I like it here. Like, I was like, this is a,
It's just got, like, a good energy out there. It seems pretty good. I kind of feel like I was bad for, like, college because, you know, they roll up in a, like, 90s Land Rover that's perfect for that, going to do a hike, go to a brewery afterwards. That was a little bit more of a low-key we've done. Yeah, it did feel like college, and that's because...
We had friends that had like, who were locals basically or local connections. We're going to take a quick commercial break from a word from our sponsors and we'll be right back.
I would like to talk to you about one of our sponsors, Timeline Nutrition, and one product in particular, MitoPure. MitoPure is one of the first products to offer a precise dose of urolithin A to help upgrade your mitochondrial function, help increase cellular energy, and help improve muscle strength and endurance. I've started taking it recently and have started to tell that there is definitely when I work out or I'm active. But MitoPure does more than just help with my muscle health.
It can help with health stand as well. I want to be one of those granddads one day that you see in the video of him swinging his grandkid around. I want to rely on myself for as long as I possibly can.
One way to think of MitoPure is that they are in your cells, chomping up the damaged mitochondria that makes you feel old and tired and helping to recycle it into new healthy ones. Mitochondria, our cell's power generators, are one of the key influences in how we age. However, as the years pass, mitochondrial efficiency naturally declines, representing a large gap in the quality of life we expect in our later years and the one we experience.
Taking two soft gels a day for two months and you could see significant improvements in your cellular energy, muscle strength, and endurance. After four months of taking Mito Pure, you might feel yourself getting stronger, recovering faster after a workout, and experiencing less inflammation, all part of your healthier aging routine, which is honestly amazing.
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The night before, they weren't playing music anywhere. It was so odd. I think it was just a dead night. There was a lot of conventions there. We met a lot of golfers. We stayed at the Kempton. And then we just...
Austin and I were bickering a little bit. We were keeping it together, but me, Nick, and Austin went to this pizza place called Hanny's just to chill or Italian place or something, whatever you want to call it. And Rodrigo and his niece and friend and Tyler, his sister and his brother-in-law met up, Bo. And we just, Austin picked this place that was like a speakeasy. And sure, it was cool, but
Yeah, I mean, it was really cool. But when sat in a corner where you can...
No, I was like, I'm here to like, you know, I was in a mood to people watch and like, you know, see the town, not go sit in an isolated corner. So I ended up, the waitress had already brought her waters and I was like, and there was only one bartender and it was all craft cocktails. And I, I mean, my gut, I just knew, I was like, I'm, I do not want to get stuck here for the next half hour. Like I'm not really drinking. I don't care about a craft cocktail. Um,
So I gave the waitress like 40 bucks and I was just like, I'm sorry, we got to get out of here. But of course Austin stayed because Austin was like, and then didn't show up for, like you said, another 30, 40 minutes. Yeah. We got stuck with a drink. You know, I, I mean, I knew he was going to do this, but he's just like, Craig's like, blah, blah, blah. You know, so dramatic. You know what? We came here like, I'm going to have a drink or whatever. And me and Nick and, um,
rodrigo we were like i saw a bowling alley across the street i was like that's the answer like let's just go to the bowling alley so i went to the bowling alley and it was great just like bowling alleys are uh we shot at the bar and then they came like a half hour later and austin was like yeah he's shaking his head he was like all we got was a freaking shot of tequila and it took so long so we played like jenga and stuff and
walked back to the hotel. We've been staying close to the hotel. We've been staying close to the venues recently, which sometimes we don't get to see certain areas of town that people suggest, but it is nice being able to walk from the venue to the room. Yeah, no, so last night when, so you had a hot barrier flight. I did, of course, going back out with Austin and then his family. I have to give this person a shout out. Oh, yeah. So Ross,
Austin's I'm sorry I forgot Austin's cousins live in Phoenix so they came to the brewery and stuff too and then came to our show and they're yeah and they brought some friends with yeah it's always fun meeting cousins because you're like alright you guys are similar enough but like not like siblings but you know you grew it's funny because it's
You're meeting like a childhood friend of theirs where they were like forced together by their parents. Yeah, I know. They knew each other forever. Yeah. Yeah. No. And they were super nice, super lovely. So we go to this bar. It's going to kill me that I can't remember. It's literally right across the hotel. And there's this couple there that were at the show. I didn't recognize them, but they came up. I don't think they did the meet and greet. They're like, hey, we just wanted to say hi and everything. Yeah.
Awesome. You know, super nice. You know, it just was a quick hello. Went back to theirs, did their thing. And they kind of just, it was date night, obviously. And the check comes to us, you know, everybody like throws in their card and the waitress takes it, comes back and she goes, hands her back their card. And I'm like, it's already been covered. Get a couple over there, block your bar tab.
So I wanted to give a shout out to a true bestie, Laura, and her art mirror for Hinkiness Apple. Everybody was like, what? They picked up the whole bar tab. Wow. Where they had the show? Yeah. So he was like, yeah, when we first started dating, she was always watching Bravo and this show called Southern Charm. And we kind of just watched it together. And that's how it kind of just...
I knew then we just like melted over your show and everything. So this is my thank you for getting me with her. So that's awesome. It was awesome. Yeah. I, I like, um,
You know, it's definitely the type of show that you can like that brings people together in a weird way because the subject matter may not be. It's about people being torn apart all the time. No, but, you know, we get so many people that have sick relatives or, you know, a lot of people in the hospital spending time with someone that starts watching our show or just in a relationship.
and they just binge it and it's pretty neat to bring people together that way. Yeah, the meet and greet, like we met all different types of people last night and look, you know, I was really, really stressed at the beginning of the tour because it's a big lift, you know, for me and you and Austin, but like it's just,
I put so much pressure on us if you're paying – because nothing else that I do – I'll never charge money to meet me or something. Obviously, now at the home shows, there's a small ticket you have to purchase. I think they're like $5 or $10 or something. Well, they got to pay the people to help run that thing. Yeah, that's different. But at the store and everything, it's always –
And if you had ever had to buy a ticket, then the proceeds went to charity and that was only for crowd control. And I fought that, but in the past that had happened by other places. But, you know, if you're buying a ticket to come see us perform, like, yes, I'm going to put a ton of pressure on myself to deliver a good show. I think anyone with, you know, any sort of,
compassion or consideration for people would do that like regardless of what the ticket costs like that doesn't matter like for a lot of people it's a lot of money and even if it's not it's still your money so you want to get what you paid for it's how I treat restaurants you know I don't mind what they cost as long as I get you know what I paid for so we were really stressed but we
I'm proud of us and I'm really proud of, and they were, they were all great. And we've just coming into a little more relaxed approach to them where, you know, especially with, you know, cutting the drinking out, they're not as stressful and they're really fun and we love doing them. And so the reason I am saying this is if you are in a,
a city or a town with like a private venue, um, which I love doing and you want us to come there. Like if you have like an, like, especially if you have an end with the venue, then, you know, email us at the boys at pillows and beer.com. Um, because Austin and I schedule is about to get pretty busy, but like, we're down to like do, you know, one or two of these a month. So, um,
Like last night was so intimate and I just think everyone had a, had a great time. So I'm, I'm willing to not willing, but you know, I was looking forward to the end of the tour, Nick, but now I'm not. Cause I've, well, that's not stressful. Yeah. And then you're like, Oh, it's over. I saw that sucks, but I thought it was good. I mean, like you said, that was a kind of a different venue than we've normally done too.
Not necessarily like size, like capacity wise, but just the layout wasn't like a concert type venue. It was definitely more of that intimate stand up. You're in the crowd. They're just around you. So it was cool. But yeah, I'm kind of relieved the tour is over just so we don't, you especially don't have to travel as much. But at the same time, like we're ready to do some more of these. I think everybody has a great time. Yeah.
I want to go back to Phoenix and stay at the sanctuary too. But yeah, this is my first time back in Charleston since like January 3rd or 2nd. Are you going for a while? No. Well, a while for me. My birthday is February 9th and...
Paige has... This is like fashion month in New York, like fashion week and stuff. And she's got some really exciting things in LA and I'm super proud of her. So I'm going to spend... I'm going to go shoot a bunch of guns in a field tomorrow. We're not hunting. We're just... We're shooting clay pigeons. And so I...
bought this launcher because like you know I don't have anything to offer with that like I don't have shotguns or land or anything but when my buddy was like hey we're actually doing a guys weekend and I don't think anyone expected me to like be here and I was like well if I bought like a launcher online would that be helpful and they were like heck yeah so you hook it up to a car battery but we've got this like skeet shooting launcher
And we're going to, we're going to shoot targets tomorrow, then roast oysters for lunch and then smoke meats for dinner. And he's got wifi. And so we're going to project like some of the basketball games on, um,
you know, whatever, the side of the bar or something and just sit around the fire and burn. Yeah, I'm excited about it. And it's only an hour drive. No, that's no brighter. No. And so then...
I'm going to spend a couple of days here. I have some stuff to do at the warehouse and the store, and then I'm going to go to New York, spend time with Paige for my birthday. And then I'm going to go to Delaware. We're doing something special for, I don't think he listens to this podcast, but I'm going to visit my parents for like a week for my birthday. That's what I wanted to go either to like, I was just like,
Put my feet in the sand somewhere like a tropical vacation. But I laughed because we're just we're busy right now. But it was a fun thought. But I just want to go home for like a week. So I'm going to go home to Delaware for a week. And then I have a home show in Charlotte. And then the end of February is when my time in Charleston really starts to be like, I'm down here. So I don't know. Where are you headed around Charleston?
anywhere or are you just going to go home? I'm going to go home for a few weeks. I might have to go to Greenville and then to the beach for work for a little bit. But yeah, pretty much just staying in Charlottesville area, Virginia area. Nice. Yeah, I like Greenville a lot. Yeah, I just had some habanera. I have my standard order of habanera bread. I put it in actually...
Well, as I was falling asleep, I placed a future order. And when I woke up, I was at my doorstep. We got broccoli cheddar soup, chicken noodle soup, pepperoni pizza. I'm about to make a fire and just chill. But it's, you know, we want to thank everyone that's come to the tour. I want to thank everyone that listens to our podcast every week. I know it can be silly sometimes, but we really do enjoy it. Enjoy sharing our stories.
Our lives with everyone, different than our Instagram lives when we used to be drinking everything in the house. Sometimes I cringe when Austin talks about the drinking during COVID because obviously that's what we did. We drank. You're the one now.
Yeah. Like that was the rule, you know, they were like, just stay home. And if you do, there are no other rules. Like you can't just broke every like ABC law. They're like, yeah, restaurants can go ahead and give you drinks to go. Yeah. Yeah. So exactly. Um,
And so we would just drink the most. We drank everything. Everything in the house we could find, we drank every night. And we drank with everyone on Instagram Live. And it was really fun. But hearing when he talks about it, sometimes I'm like... Because I don't want people in the crowd to think we're saying, like, drinking makes us cool. But we were like... No, like, at the time... And I guess I have a different relationship with alcohol now. But I was like, it wasn't... We weren't being, like...
dumb frat guys when you were supposed to be living regular life we were being like grown-up frat guys because that was we were like we were following the rules by actually being who we are inside like all right you guys just be frat boys but just don't leave your frat house and by fraternity house we just mean your real house exactly and in your grown-up friend um
But hey, thanks for popping on with me, Nick. We've got a little follow-up section with Austin after this. Austin's in Indianapolis. And...
And we'll see you guys next week. I would like to talk to you about one of our sponsors, Timeline Nutrition, and one product in particular, MitoPure. MitoPure is one of the first products to offer a precise dose of urolithin A to help upgrade your mitochondrial function, help increase cellular energy, and help improve muscle strength and endurance. I've started taking it recently and have started to tell that there is definitely when I work out or I'm active.
But MitoPure does more than just help with my muscles. It can help with health stand as well. I want to be one of those granddads one day that you see in the video of him swinging his grandkid around. I want to rely on myself for as long as I possibly can. One way to think of MitoPure is that they are in your cells, chomping up the damaged mitochondria that makes you feel old and tired and helping to recycle it into new healthy ones.
Mitochondria, our cell's power generators, are one of the key influences in how we age. However, as the years pass, mitochondrial efficiency naturally declines, representing a large gap in the quality of life we expect in our later years and the one we experience.
Taking two soft gels a day for two months and you could see significant improvements in your cellular energy, muscle strength, and endurance. After four months of taking Mito Pure, you might feel yourself getting stronger, recovering faster after a workout, and experiencing less inflammation, all part of your healthier aging routine, which is honestly amazing.
Timeline is offering 10% off your first order of Mito Pure. Go to timeline.com slash pillowsandbeer. That's T-I-M-E-L-I-N-E dot com slash pillowsandbeer. These statements and products have not been evaluated by the Friedenslug administration. These products are not invented by no street pure company.
to prevent any disease or condition.
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Should we do some questions since we haven't done in a while? Yeah. Let's do some questions. I want to do a fun hookup question or scandalous. Anything scandalous? The guy I like and I have started to sext, but my last boyfriend shared some weight. Do we talk about this already? Yeah, we did. Right. Are you sure? Okay. Craig, dude, does this sound familiar to you? Um, yeah.
Yeah, we haven't done this. Okay, so a guy I like and I have started to sext, but my last boyfriend shared some of my nudes with his friends. I really would like to do it again, but I have very bad trust issues. I feel like I can trust this guy, but I don't really know for sure. Do I take a leap? We go to separate in-state schools, so we are close to...
to each other sometimes, but not all the time. I know Craig says sharing nudes is great and I agree, but I just cannot pull the trigger. Yeah, that sucks. I mean, that's, you know, Snapchat was the answer to that, but now people can screenshot on their phones. Um, their friends' phones. Oh yeah. So you could take your phone and film the screen and you would never know. Right. Okay. So, um,
Knowing all of that and knowing that there is no guarantee that they won't go out and that it's easier than ever to beat the system, I think a fun way to start would be sharing little by little and then you can get a better feel for the guy and you can build the trust. But I think not showing stuff at first but getting close to it.
Like, you know, like teases and then maybe you could see where, but yeah, at this day and age, like there's no way to like self-destructive photo. I feel like you either have the like full on, just been open and honest kind of convo and be like, are you really going to be that piece of shit that shows, you know, your friends, you know? And like the guy might be like, Whoa, not anymore. Or, you know, you treat everything that you send out as something that like,
a whole bunch of people could see. And you just have the total confidence to be like, this is me and check it out. But not everyone, including myself, has that sort of confidence to just be like, check it out. I think the first part of what you said is smart. Treat everything that you send
as something that will be seen by everyone. I think that was where you were a genius in saying that. Yes, yes. That's... And then you're like, so if you're sending a spread eagle picture, just know that everyone's going to see it. It's like, no. Just... I should have said that. I feel good with it, though. You know, I don't want to be a lame guy, but I think you should probably be dating at this point
Where like you're exclusive for nudes because like or boyfriend, girlfriend, because at least then like your boyfriend or girlfriend shouldn't be showing your pictures. But who knows if they do? But I mean, I don't know if you can do it as early as you used to be able to. But that's it sounds like they're in college. Yeah. They go to separate in-state schools.
So we are close to each other sometimes, but not all the time. And look, and look here, I'll tell you a real easy way to get some insurance. It should be two sided. So, you know, have you both should see you both should have. I don't want to say blackmail because it shouldn't get there, but like he should have a reason to not go show your pictures because he's like, shit, my stuff's on her phone, too. So if I show all my friends, she's going to show her friends.
Be like, Hey Johnny, you send it first. Yeah. You send that mirror pic first and then whatever you send me, I'll give you back what you, you know. That sounds like a fun game. And if he doesn't want to, then you're like, okay, well, I don't feel comfortable sending something without you doing it. But there's no reason the guy shouldn't be first. And yeah, you should check. That's actually the way to do it. That's actually the way to do it.
Kind of like Craig said, you know, you don't have to blackmail him. You know, I hope that doesn't get there, but you know, I mean, let them know. You're like, I also fucking have this. So I'll show that tiny little penis to my friends. If you're going to,
If you're going to expose me or whatever. This is obviously for everyone 18 and up, besties that are listening. You also should not send nudes to anyone. We're just saying if you decide to. But yes, the guys should. Send them to the boys at pillowsandbeer.com and we'll tell you if they're tasteful to send off to your partner. That's funny. But yeah, the guy, make him send it first. I mean, if he wants to see it. I think that's smart, to be honest. I think it's smart.
Okay, well, that was a heck of a question. One says, here's a wordy question, so let's do it. I've been hooking up with someone casually on and off for about four years. We've both dated other people in between and sometimes during. He communicates his feelings for me when we are together, but I don't understand. I find it hard to tell him how I feel because I'm scared it will put pressure on our situation. I also wonder if he's just caught up in the moment when he does express himself.
I guess my question is guys perspective. Would you want the girl to keep the friendship where it is because it's fun? Or is it worth me possibly ruining the vibe to just ask him if he'd ever want to be more, how would I even bring it up? I absolutely love you guys. Well, thank you bestie for your question and for trusting it. Um,
I think this is a tough one, dude. This is like a layered question. So, well, I, yeah, I think we're going to unfortunately confirm your, you know, you kind of already know the answer to this and we're not going to correct you with that. Um, if he's only telling you his feelings in person, um, it's because of that. Yeah. Caught up in the moment. Um,
sexuality. It's there. He wouldn't be seeing other people if he wanted it to be you. I mean, God, that sounds harsh, but I'm saying like, yeah, in my opinion, I,
we like we've always said you got to tell them because living in this gray zone is going to take years off your life so you might as well tell them and either he feels the same way as you or he wants to stay exactly where you are I definitely agree with that part Craig living in the gray zone will take off you know years of your life especially if
you know, you're thinking that he is only, you know, with you, but it seems here in my opinion. So this is where I will disagree with you, Craig, because it seems here that, that, that she has a very healthy mindset on it. Right. So,
Casually hooking up on and off for four years. So they've known each other for a while now. Yeah, that's a long time. That is a long time. And then she's admitting that they both have dated, man, other people in between and sometimes during. Okay. And if she's cool with that and like, you know, she knows and like if he knows, then, you know, they're on the same page. So then I want to jump forward to where she says,
Would you want the girl to keep the friendship where it is because it's fun or is it worth me possibly ruining the vibe to just ask him if he'd ever want to be more? And I think that that is kind of how you do it. I mean, it sounds like you have a healthy mindset on it. It sounds like you're not like, I am just in love with this guy and I hope that he feels the same way. It's like you're sitting and you're saying, how do I bring it up to see if he...
I mean, is into it. And I think that that's kind of how you do it. You're like, Hey, we've been doing this for four years. Like, do we want to try and maybe just seeing each other or do you want to keep it like this and see what he has to say? I mean, what, like, what can you lose? I mean, it's a four year hookup for God's sakes.
And I think that if that was asked to me, then I'd be like, oh, well, let's discuss. So I think that that's how you do it. And like, you don't approach it from a, hey, so I've been thinking, I really want to be with you. What do you think? It's like, hey, is this something that we want to like explore being like exclusive with each other and not just like a random hookup from time to time?
Yeah, that's true. That was a great point. Great answer. I think I went a little severe in saying if that's what you want from it, then you're going to have to make a decision after that. But I think Austin had the more accurate answer of just being like, yeah, it sounds like you guys could have that just a pretty easy conversation just to see where everyone is. Because it sounds like it's like that. Also, I want to say...
Fuck the guy from the last question. We didn't remember to say that. The guy that showed nudes. True. I hope he never gets another boyfriend. Yeah. I hope he never gets another nude in his life. Yes. Fuck that guy. What is. Okay. Austin, you can go ahead and read one. Yeah. I was looking at this one.
Because I like this. What is the best way to make the first move with technology these days? As Craig and I were just talking about technology, making all sorts of things different. So with technology these days, it takes some of the organic moments out of dating. Like a lot of the time, I feel like the girl and I, like the girl and I have been seeing one another longer than we actually have. It just makes it hard to know when I should make a move.
and how far I should try and go. I understand no means no, but I would rather not get to that point. I don't want to come off as a wimp and a creep on the flip side. I kind of see what you're saying. I wish I knew how long that this had happened, but I do see what you're saying with technology, right? Because you literally can sit there and text with a person all day and all night, day after day after day, and even though it's
only been like three or four days, you're like, I feel like I've known you for, you know, like a month. Right. And in reality, you've just kind of known them for three or four days. So I wish that I knew how long that's. Yeah. Like if this is like months, then you're probably in the friend zone. Or again, she might not know that you like her. But I think you can try with like intimate dates, like where you're stuck next to each other. And I don't suggest that.
but I guess if you've known each other, you can, but like a sporting event, because then, well, I don't know. Is it weird to hold hands at a sporting event? Yeah. Sporting event can be just friends. He says a lot of the time I feel like, or, or, you know, they say, I feel like the girl that I've been seeing one another longer than we actually have. So I don't, I don't,
That makes me believe from the context of this question that we're talking, you know, weeks and potentially like a month. And, and I hope that that's not the case as you said, you've been seeing each other. And I, I would never say that I'm seeing someone unless I have been seeing them for, you know, three months or something like that, or, you know, two months. Right. And then I'm like, okay, I am, you know, consistently seeing someone. So if you're,
using it in that context and it has been three months and you haven't made a move, then maybe y'all are just friends. I don't want to laugh because I don't know the timeframe. My final answer is that you must make a move to know one way or another where you stand with this because you gotta, boy. So, I mean, have y'all hung out in person? I assume so. There's lots of question marks that I have with this. So you take that person out
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