How Angry Ginge Became The UK'S BIGGEST STREAMER!!
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- Yo, what's up guys? Welcome back to the What's Good Podcast. Today we have Angry Ginge on here. Let's go. Wow. I feel like you're in a moment right now. - Thank you, thank you. - You're killing it. - Thank you, mate. I appreciate it. - Before we start the podcast. - This is all I wanted to know. - Don't tell me that was it. - No, no, no. It's two. - Don't tell me it's just you opening cans. This is a new love. - It's a picture of the whole thing. - Yeah, that's just it, yeah. - But where was the jokes bit? You said it was jokes. - To me it's jokes. - What, opening cans?

- Let's go. - This is a new low on the podcast by the way. - He's bigged this up before the podcast where he's like, I've got an amazing thing, it's jokes. I've got a jokes thing to do after the intro. - I said that. - That was it. - I just don't understand, can you just talk me through what was going through your head there? - If I didn't tell you about it before, would it have been jokes? - No, I just wondered why you were opening three cans before. - It's just funny, I've got three drinks, I've got water, a Pocce Max and then a Prime for the energy. - Is it funny though? - No, it's not. I can answer that one for you.

- I just don't understand. - It's not funny, but you know. Anyway, welcome to the podcast. - Thank you, it's a pleasure to be here. Thanks for having me. - This is Angry Ginge. Who are you? - My name is Angry Ginge. My real name is Morgan Birtwistle. - I didn't know that. - Yeah, I thought you were Tom. - Yeah, no, I see that. I see that, sorry. I was actually debating changing my name just to- - Morgan Whistle? - Morgan Birtwistle. - Birtwistle? - Birtwistle, but I like to be- - Is that one name? - What, you're Dutch?

- Dutch, no not Dutch. - It's not Van. - Yeah. - Van Whistle. - My full name is like Morgan Sam Lee Burt Whistle. - Burt Whistle? - Yeah. - So Burt Whistle's one name? - Yeah, Burt Whistle's one name. - So what's the origin of the name then? - Just the one my mum and dad give me. - No, no, no, Burt Whistle. - What are you asking? - It was my granddad's name. It's been passed down through the family. - Yeah, yeah, so minter, it obviously means something. Shane means something, that must pass her name. - But what does Shay mean? - It's Irish. - Right, well Burt Whistle. - That's not a meaning. - I don't know, it means fuck all to me. Morgan's German though.

German and Dutch. Nice. Is that true? No. Oh, you ought to have had my last name, aren't you? I feel like...

This is going to be a good podcast. I'm excited for this one. You're on it. Yeah, you're on it. Bit biased. You can't be excited for it. You're here. We were talking before and I know you didn't recognize my accent much. You couldn't understand me. Which is funny because you're from the North and they all say I'm from the North. He is Northern. He's not Northern. Exactly. He is Northern. It depends whereabouts on the... Yeah, but I don't know how high up the country that is. All right. North of London. That's not North. That's not North. No, if it's below Liverpool, it's not North.

- Oh, it's definitely below Liverpool. - Well, there you go then. - Sheffield's north. - Yeah, below Sheffield then. - Okay, below Sheffield, yeah. We could just keep going lower though. - If it's below Nottingham, it's north. - Nah, Midlands, we are called Midlands. East Midlands is what I'd- - But to be fair, you don't have a very distinguished accent. - You know, I used to, I saw a video on Snapchat. It was like, oh, this video happened four years ago. Have a look at it. I looked at it and my accent was so different to what it is now. I think when I moved to London, I started to like change for you. - You changed for him, that's really cute. - Yeah, well, this podcast, you can never understand me, so. - It's true.

- I would say like, oh look, there's a video on my phone at 2:00 AM, someone's cycling. I was like, who the fuck is cycling through my village at two in the morning? That's what I would say, two in the morning. But now here in London, I would say two in the morning. - So you speak the proper English. - Yeah, it's so annoying. - You know what, I actually take everything back. You're not Northern. - Thank you. - 'Cause Northern people actually still speak English.

- There's a word I would call myself but I can't say. - Oh, I know. - Stupid, yeah. - Well, you are a streamer. - Yep. - But you weren't always a streamer. - This podcast fucking sucks. - No, I wasn't though. You were a referee. - Yes, I was a referee. - Nice. - I started refereeing when I was, I think, 19. I remember my first ever refereeing game. - How old are you now? - 21. - What?

- You're talking like nine, you're like, "Oh, back in the day when I was 19." - Oh, sorry. - So long ago. - I thought he was about to say he's 27 for a second. - No, just actually, just after COVID, so I'm sure I would have been 19. So then I remember my first ever refereeing game, red card, two penalties, and I was being assessed. Came up to the end of the game, and that is the best first refereeing game I've ever witnessed. - Wow. - Give me five out of five stars. Moved on, game after that, I had to send in the keeper, give him off and off, give a free kick.

He goes, ref, that's never a fucking free kick. I go, just come here, mate, just come here.

i know you're the keeper but i'll still sim bin you right he saves a free kick looks back over to me i told you it was never a far i said hey just come here just come here sim bin 10 minutes oh my god were you being assessed on that one what no i won't be in the session so i could do whatever the i wanted to so then um the managers oh ref what's this for what's this for i said hey hang on slowly walk over to him because when you're the ref you are the guy in control no matter what happens whatever you say goes

And if they don't listen, just abandon the match. Simple as that. So anyway, I walk over. He goes, what's that for? I said, he just told me to fuck off twice and I've already warned him. So he turns around to the goalkeeper and just starts fucking bollocking the goalkeeper. Absolutely brilliant. Nice. So you actually were a good ref then? You were a top ref? Yeah. Oh yeah. Like, you know, I've just seen Mark Clattenburg. I reckon I'm on par probably. A lot of the referees I know in real life are always... How many referees do you have? Yeah.

I think you just found out your first one now. - A good three. - Oh, okay, nice. - A good three. - No. - 'Cause now it's gonna sound really offensive, but actually they're all nerds.

and like goody two shoes and all this, you know? - Yeah, yeah. - I thought you were the first rep I've ever met that's like actually kind of cool. - Yeah, because like he's a ginger fever player with the Lightning McQueen Crocs. - Yeah, I am pretty cool. - True, actually. But you know what I'm trying to say, you know, not a pushover. - Yeah, 100%, but because the thing is with refereeing, like, 'cause I've played the game. - Yeah. - That sounds so like I'm an ex-pro. I've played the game, you know, I understand it. - I feel like I'm talking to like a 40 year old who's lived life. He's like 21.

- Just fresh out of whatever you used to do. - No, so, 'cause I played the game, I understand what's to go and what isn't to go.

so anyways i know what what's just a foul what's not a foul and i have banner with him on the pitch as well and obviously when i started going on tick tock more of them started to recognize me so like you'd get a few comments on your stick to tick tock and all that bollocks well then you just yell like adam yeah get nothing said again you're the boss at the end of the day yeah exactly there was this one guy i think i gave something against his team he came up to me ref how much is he paying you here and to say that it's a red card offense

So I just went, "Just come here, mate. "Got your red card out. "Number, name, row it down. "Don't ever speak to me like that again and you'll be off." - Nice. - Didn't say anything else. - Nice, yeah. - You like the power, don't you? - Oh, absolutely. There's one ref I know, he literally puts a yellow card and a red card, and if it's something that could be sent off-ball, he goes, "Hey, just pick a pocket."

Whichever one he chooses. - They should do that at the Premier League actually. - Yeah, that'd be decent. - How much did it pay you for being a ref? - So I think under, it depends on the age, like under nines, which I don't do 'cause it is fucking boring, honestly. - What age do you do? - Like under 14, 15, 16, 17. I've done a couple of open ages. - That's getting taken out of context by the way.

- Oh, for fuck sake. - I wouldn't mean for that to happen. I thought after all this about him, he was telling them to fuck off and stuff. So you're gonna tell me you did like under 10s or something? - Yeah, I imagine. No, I did. I did one under nines game and it was like, oh, it's a fucking point.

Honestly, I used to coach. Well, I say used to, I didn't use to coach. I think I did like four coaching sessions with under sixes, teaching them the rules. This is a throw and this is a corner. I haven't got time for that. Fuck off. No chance. Boring. Yeah. You want to officiate. You don't want to touch on the rules. I wouldn't mind coaching a team though, like open age that they actually know the game. But I'm not doing under nines.

You do talk like you're like 40. What, me? Yeah. Why? I've had a few, you know, I've been a coach. I get the game. Yeah, I feel like I'm talking to my dad right now. I get some knowledge about life, you know. Anything else you can teach us about life? No, but I've got a quote. One? Oh, he has a quote of the day. Yeah. Every day. Do you? Opportunities don't come knocking. You've got to open the door. Nice. Thank you. Nice.

Okay. But then if you open the door, you can't knock it at all. Yeah, chill out, Randolph. No, but you unlock the one knocking. Someone else is knocking. The opportunity is. Ah, so let him in. Yeah. My favourite one is the Call the Dragon one. He's got a few, so go on. Never leave you good enough. I love everyone. I love him. I love him. He's the best. It's not the same without him. Although, now that they've put it,

Actually, we got told off once for hating on that Ben AFC. You know that? No. You know Ben AFC? Yeah. We mentioned him on a podcast and I think...

well i think we were hating on him and it was what did you say it wasn't nothing that bad i don't think okay but yeah it's probably has actually quit tick tock before so that might have been because of you so it could have been from us yeah i'm sorry it's back now oh in some states because of the you get paid now yeah it probably is because of that genuinely fair enough yeah fair enough um so you went from being a ref to did you do anything else between yeah so i was at college i started army six years

You shit yourself. No, I didn't. That was being funny. That was being funny. So I started at college. I was doing uniform public services because I wanted to go into the police. Okay, so did I. So did you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was one of my best mates. So I did that for two years. Then came out. I wanted to take like a gap year or something. But obviously I couldn't because I didn't have any money. So I had to get...

- Laughing at the poor, laughing at the poor, right? That's the true Randolph. - No, I'm laughing, sorry, sorry. - No, no, speak your mind, go on. - No, it's just funny 'cause like, well, nevermind, can I continue, man? I'm not laughing at the poor. I'm laughing at how it seems like I am. - So anyway, I had to get a job at a warehouse. - Oh God, no. - Warehouse job's funny as well.

- I was laughing because like, obviously, you know, it's like, when did you decide? Oh no, just go on, just go on. - Wait, you went, you worked at a warehouse to get money to go? - No, so I worked at a warehouse to get a PC.

Okay. So I was like, I think I was 400 a month, 400 a week. And I got, I think I stayed one and a half weeks. So I managed to get a PC. Yeah, no, it was bad. My foot, mate. No, seriously, seriously, it was bad. It was honestly the worst thing I've ever been in. Yeah, it's not great. My dad actually did it for once. No earphones. Couldn't listen to music. Couldn't speak to anyone there.

because none of them were English. Oh, wow. It was absolutely terrible. And my first day, I was just stood there for seven and a half hours straight. My manager stunk a BO as well, so that didn't help. He absolutely reeked. I'm just there opening bottle lids off that, taking them off for seven hours straight in my own head. Terrible. Then...

There was other days I was doing jam jars, Tetley tea. And I said this on a PR website, I'll say it again. I swear to God, everything I say is 100% true. There was a night I got home from work after being on the jam jars. - What does that mean?

- Putting jam jars in a thing and then putting it on a conveyor belt. - Oh no, the jam jars. - No, no, seriously. And then I'm in the party with all my mates and then I just close my eyes 'cause I'm tired. And I genuinely, I just see jam jars. - Nice. You were asleep or you just, in your imagination? - No, no, I just closed my eyes. I think I must've blinked, but it must've been

two second blink just seen Jam Jazz and that was the moment for me where gotta get out of there but at least you got your PC though yeah I got my PC job well done man thank you bargain as well actually I only got it for 500 nice so I'll take that I got a little streaming light as well literally just a little ring did the job

And then keyboard and mouse, that was it. Sick, man. I find it really weird because I was going to be a policeman and then I took a gap year and I worked in a warehouse to get money. Wow. Yeah. You could afford the gap year though, so. After the working in the warehouse because I didn't do it for a week and a half. How long did you do it for? Four months. It was a lot better than the conditions you're saying. Yeah, I can imagine. What kind of conditions were you in? Well, I had to stand up the whole day just packing and I had to pack stuff, but I was allowed...

- It's a lot of earphones when one person is left for work and then we were allowed to talk. - You're a hard worker man. - Thanks. - It's all right. - Tell you something as well,

The best moment in the old warehouse was the break. How do you have stories for a job that was a week and a half? So... Right, this guy's entertaining me. I can see why you're doing so well. Thank you. I can listen to you for hours. Keep going. Thank you, thank you. I'll start charging. So anyway, I go to there and then there's like a vending machine with like microwave burgers and all that. Cheeky Rusla burger. Rusla, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Rusla. Cheeseburger. I thought, what is this yellow sauce here? So I put it in the microwave, cook it.

- Put it on, changed my life. Burger sauce. - Oh yeah, yeah. - Beautiful. - Never had burger sauce. - Isn't that Big Mac sauce? - No, that's Big Mac sauce. - Oh. - Yeah, hence the name. - I thought it was burger sauce. - Burger sauce is like ketchup and mayo. - It's ketchup and mustard. - I swear that's what Big Mac sauce is. - Yeah, it's the pickle stuff in there. That's the best. - Okay, well Google what is Big Mac sauce, 'cause I swear it's just that. - Well, if it is, well done. Do you know what I mean? - Continue, but we'll find out. - Big Mac sauce made of...

- No, that's got way more. - Yeah, yeah. - That's ridiculous that. - Yeah. - I'm just taking the piss. - Yeah, fair enough. Do you like McDonald's? Do you ever get it?

- Yeah, every other night. - I've seen his orders. - I had it twice last night. I had it twice yesterday as well. - Twice in one day? - Yeah. - What's your go-to order then? - Large five piece chicken select meal. Depends what mood I'm in to be fair. If I'm in a chicken mood, I'll get a large McChicken sandwich meal as well. If not, I'll get a large Big Mac meal and then a Oreo McFlurry if they've not got a caramel McFlurry on. But I always have a mum when I go there. Like when you're ordering through the drive-through, I always take the piss.

It's a triple cheeseburger, I can have a triple please burger cheese. - Nice, nice. - It's immature as fuck, but it's funny. The worst thing is when I found out they had a camera and could see me pissing myself. - Are you on your own when you do this? - Yeah, on my own, I'm with my mates both. And then there's, I always go, is your milkshake machine working? And then half the time it's no, I say, oh, fuck it, I'll change the record. And then if it is working, I go, is your milkshake machine working? Yeah, it is, I'll just have a Coke then, please.

- That man, yeah. I will say triple cheeseburgers are great. Underrated. - Yeah, but to be fair, I think the menu takes the piss now because chicken males are like one pound 29 now. - Oh yeah, yeah. - Everyone's just disrespectful. - Yeah. - Have you not seen his orders where he says he's ordered a salad? It's a Big Mac. - Oh. - I genuinely did order a salad and it was a nine inch- - I actually did see that one. - It was a nine inch Don and Meat margarita. I couldn't believe it. Must've been a sign from God.

- Wow, you went from all of that to streaming and you're now the most, I don't know if you are now, I saw like a month ago you were, the most sub two British person on Twitch. - That is correct. - Still? - Yeah, yeah, it's max. - Cold, cold. - Thank you, thank you. - Very sick. - Thank you. - So, I mean, I started to just see you from clips on TikTok, which is the way people get found now, isn't it really? What changed for you? When did you start going from kind of like,

How did you start getting your trajectory? - So I started, first ever stream would have been October 2020. And I had like a shit capture card, shit camera, stuff like that, but it's stuff you gotta do to start off. So I used to get pissed off 'cause I'd be playing FIFA and the game played freeze. So I'd be like, "All right, one minute, go on me knees." Nothing like that. - What?

and then go under the desk, unplug the capture card, plug it back in and stuff like that. So it pissed me off. I think my first ever stream when I put it on my Snapchat with all my mates, I think my height was four to, and ever since then it was like 14, 10, 20, 25. And I think there's this one time I had an icon,

icon roulette and i got like 65 people and i was just fucking over the moon yeah yeah and then the next day it'd be like 15 again and i think i'm fucking coming back yeah bring them back even even 15 like 20 is like it's quite hard to get a lot not like you can maintain that many you know it sounds like they're all my mates to be fair yeah yeah so it did help massively and then um i just stopped because it was just like i weren't enjoying it mentally i just weren't enjoying that in general

And then came back again in March 2021. The same was happening. I just started streaming pro clubs with my mates. But my mates were not content creators. They're not going to be energetic and entertaining all the time. So it was hard. I was literally streaming that to seven people. And then I was playing four times this one night and I just got dead pissed off. So I just picked my phone up and started fucking screaming and then showing the bullshit. Which is probably why you don't like me. Yeah.

Me? No, EA. Oh, right. Sorry, you're putting it out. No, you pointed to me. I was like, oh, I never said I don't like you.

And I woke up in the morning, I'd like 20K views so far. I've got something there. So then I just kept posting and posting. You could just gradually see like I went from seven to 25 to 45 to 60. And then I was always averaging like 80 to 115. And then I was like, but if I want to do this full time, that's not going to be enough. So I need to do something. So then I got my nan involved and she's hilarious. And like, that's not for the camera either. That's just her. She's fucking mad. Yeah.

So then she just used to like, but the thing with her is I used to get her on, I used to go to like 300 viewers. And then it'd be like, well, soon as she fucked off, I'd be back down to 115. So we're like, fuck it now. Nan, just come back, will you? Fucking slag. But yeah, no, she out massively. And then obviously the clips helped. And then people started to realize that, you know, I'm kind of funny. Yeah.

And then there was NYK Chaz, another streamer. He told me to go live whilst on Twitch, on TikTok. And then within a week I went from 115 to like averaging a K. It was mental. - So you did TikTok while you're doing Twitch? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Was there like one stream which was like the big stream? - What took me over to it? - Yeah. - There you were like straight away just like, oh, okay. This is massive now. - To be fair, that was probably when I went from

So I did it like days, maybe on a Tuesday I was averaging, I got to max of 250. Then on the Wednesday, I think it might've been 600. And then I think on the Thursday or something, I'd hit like 1.1. And then my whole chat be like, 1K views, 1K views. I'd be like, fuck, yeah. Just taking it in. But like, yeah, it was crazy. Sick. That's sick to hear, man. Because like-

it changes nowadays how people kind of like get their growth. You know, back in the day you'd be, you know, you get featured on like machinima or something like that. But then now it's just like, just if you're just funny, you can get out there. People show you around and it just goes and goes. That's really sick. - So did you, you grew up watching YouTube? - Yep. - Who'd you watch? - Bit by a you.

- That's all I wanted. - The whole Sidemen charity match, literally everyone there. That's why I was so nervous. As soon as you told me, I didn't eat till 3:00 PM the next day. Genuinely, 'cause I just had butterflies and I was just picturing myself walking to the changing rooms with the fucking Sidemen. Mr. Beast, I don't actually think I've missed any of Mr. Beast's videos. - Really? - Yeah. They just met them madly.

Yeah. Have you seen, I know you will have, have you seen anyone out there as well? MrBeast's first ever videos. It's so sick to go back and watch them. It's just crazy, man. Well, you blew up from the...

- Logan Paul, right? - Yeah, but then it's just so sick to see. If you're learning how to do YouTube and wanna learn, go on his old videos and just watch the shit he has to go through. He used to post little Pokemon fucking battles. - Minecraft. - Minecraft. He's got 80 million views on that now. - Yeah, that's because everyone's going back to the first one. - Yeah, well, that's true. - Yeah, but then if you go down, you see a lot of them are struggling or just struggle at the time. - I'm surprised he kept these on here though. - Yeah, that's fucking, I wouldn't be watching that. - I would be. - What, do you like that? - I like Pokemon. - Yeah, a bit embarrassing.

- So what was his first real life video? - It's jokes. I show these people when they're trying to get into it. I'm like, bro, look at this shit you had to go through, man. - That's still further. - There it is. Was that him? - No, that's other people. - Captain Sparkles. - He didn't put his face on camera until five years in. - Yeah, and then nine years ago. - Oh, wow. - Look at all this stuff, man. - He did loads of stuff about how much do people make.

- How much does PewDiePie make? Is this him? - I've not got one on how much he's pissing making though, has I? - No, no. - Love to see that video. - Yeah, true. - Yeah, try me. - My own video, how much does Mr. P's make? - Yeah. - But no, it was sick to see you try it much as well. I felt like you were comfortable though, everyone. It wasn't like you were like in awe, you know? - But yeah, I was comfortable. I could string a conversation just about, but I was still just like- - Inside. - Yeah, I was still fucking mental. - Yeah. - Well, your announcement was like, I think it was the most,

- That's what Chip Fat said to me in the after party. - It's 'cause we, so,

someone from our team was like, oh yeah, well this is the way we're gonna announce people. We've got this little animation, blah, blah, blah. And then we were all talking and we were like, yeah, like we'll invite Ginge, right? How are we gonna do it? And I just put, please let me just call him on stream. It's just so much better that I don't wanna go, hey Ginge, do you wanna play? You're like, oh yeah, thanks. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's a bit boring. - 100%, yeah. - So we got that clip. That clip went like mad. - Yeah, crazy viral. - I still don't know why I hit my chair. I just had that much emotion and energy. I just fucking thought, fuck off.

- I would see everyone for weeks before as well, just in the comments just saying, "Please get angry, Jinjin." You're like the most requested player as well. Even outside of like speed and shit, man. Everyone's just like, "Get Jinjin." So it was fucking sick in the end, you know? Snacks to me in the dressing room as well. - Pardon? - You snagged to me in the dressing room? - I know, I was genuinely hoping that as well. Honestly, I could have sat me in the corner and I wouldn't have been asked. - You know how I texted you like, "Can I call you for a sec?" - Yeah. - Like, "It's fine, you can be on stream." - Yeah. - What did you think that was?

I had no idea. Like obviously my chat, I think my chat was spamming like, "He's playing, he's playing, he's playing." I was like, there's obviously a chance, but there would have to been a fucking miracle for me to get in. So I was like, it was in the back of my mind, but I was like, nah, it's just not, I just doubt it. So anyway, I just let the phone call be the phone call. And I just lost my shit. - Yeah. It was not much notice, right? It's like two days.

- Yeah, literally two days, but I was coming down on a Friday because I was doing the fellas. - Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, true actually, yeah. - Well, I'd spoken to you before and you'd said you're coming to watch. So I was like, I know he's free. I know he's gonna be there. - True, true. - I could have had a funeral and I'd still been fucking free. - Mate, you know what I mean? - That's what I mean. - If you guys made an announcement say on the tannoy and like, "Arjun, can you come play?" And like walk down the stands, he's running down the stadium. - Or like a Misfits kind of thing, like mystery opponent. - Yeah, yeah. No, no, I'm saying like he's literally watching the game.

Oh what He doesn't know Yeah yeah yeah Can you complain We're just holding up a shirt Like change Yeah took that

- Yeah, you did, yeah. Thank you, I appreciate that. - You made his legs look so short. - I had to fit him in, man. - Mate, I was fucking on rising balls and everything. Honestly, I don't know where Tanahag is, but I'm still waiting for the call up. - We honestly, like we knew you know how to play football, but we also thought you were a goalkeeper. - Yeah, I know I am. - I know, but we thought he's a goalkeeper. He'll play outfield. He's not gonna be like, he's not gonna be great. And then when you came on, everyone was like, well, that's a bit cheap.

Cheating, innit? Played so good. I started my footballing career

- I started at right back, then went on to goalkeeper, then went in center back and then now I play goalkeeper Saturday and Sunday. - But if you were outfield, you'd probably go center back anyway. - Center back or right back, yeah. I love overlapping. Squared up to speed. - Yeah, that's true. - He didn't want none of it though, you can tell, do you know what I mean? - By the way, can I just say, that camera was so weird. - It's so horrible. - Is there not a better solution than that? You know, the ref camera? - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

- Look how big it is on his chest. - He must have felt like an idiot. - I think it's half time, just as the second half is about to start. Ethan goes up to talk to him and it cuts to that camera and Ethan's face is just there and it's on the screens in the stadium. And I look at it and just go, "Ethan, you're on the screen by the way." - Yeah, I was gonna say, 'cause Con had one that was just attached to him, that was a GoPro, so I guess it needed the live footage, right? That's why it was so big. But yeah, it's jokes. - I think it's literally as the second half is about to start.

on the live stream yeah i think anyway it might have just been on the screen at the stadium um but no it's a sick game man and we won the game obviously yeah yeah it wouldn't have been bad if we'd have won our last but yeah it was very good to win it was very good give me your honest opinions how do you think the teams fared well it was close until um i thought it was fair um and then theo baker obviously yeah

Bit of an overreaction. He's a bit of a wussy. And it's on the screen in the stadium. But apart from a part of a field getting injured, I think it would have been a very close game. I mean, they can't say they didn't have the chances to score because speed missed five. Yeah, yeah. Plus the penalty. Yeah. So it was just more of the fact of

- Manny try hard is as simple as that. - I was saying as well, the start of the game, the first like five minutes, the YouTube also was battering inside me. I was watching the bench thinking, I don't want to come on. I can't solve this problem. - And Theo could have scored within 30 seconds. - Yeah, yeah. - So like they had the chance, they just didn't take him. - Yeah, he could have anyway. - Yeah, I think they were just trying a bit too hard. - That was sick. - Oh, see you later, Carl. Thank you.

- Awesome. - But no, I think if they took the chance it would have been a lot closer, but unfortunately the better team won. - Yeah, unfortunately. - This is the assist to the assist. Also, what do you think about XQC? - I've seen better goalkeepers. He tried his hardest. It's the hardest position on the pitch.

That was nice. Thank you. It was the hardest position on the pitch and he's never played football before. I mean, I've seen the video of him warming up and he had a cardiac arrest. I don't know what, I've never seen a goalkeeper warm up like that. I think also, by the way, that put like, I think everyone watching that, especially on the Simon team, well, I can't speak for you, but I probably like,

Everyone's worried. I actually thought he actually might be all right. But he tries his hardest in the streams. I thought he was gonna be energetic. Then I saw him do the stream where he's like passing out, being in goal. And I was like, oh yeah, nah. - Apparently he's also a hockey goalkeeper. - No way. - I was thinking like anything in this area, he should be at least like a shot stopper. I think if you hit at him, he might move. But I think he was actually not as bad as people said. - 0.3. - He's not a 0.3.

- Did he make a save? - Yeah. - Which one? - He made, he saved my shot that went to Manny to score. - Oh yeah, the one that bounced. Yeah, okay, yeah, fairs. - And that is actually like- - That's not a save, that's a mistake. - No, that's a save. - That is a mistake. - That's a save. - That is not a save. - Can we get his FOTMob stats up? - He had the ball in his, yeah, you know what I mean. - Can we get his FOTMob stats up, please? - That's a mistake.

but you gotta respect it though because it is the hardest position on the pitch but like you know it's just unlucky i think the hardest position on the pitch is the bench

No, you can never know when you need it, you know. You have to stay mentally strong on there. No, give over. I'm just joking. So, saves, three out of 12. Three out of 12. Okay, well, I must have missed them. Well, also, my stats were wrong because it said I got 100% accuracy long pass. And look, it's 10 out of 11 accurate passes. Who? Two out of two, XCC. Accurate passes. Yeah, because you're passing it with an E from a goal. Kick your knob. That's why. Two long balls out of two. I don't know where they were. Cold prevented, minus four. Look, all I'm saying is, right,

- What does that even mean? - That means he's conceding four more than he should have. - Or it means that, okay, okay. - Yeah, 'cause his goal faced is 3.8. - Okay, sorry. I thought it was like goal prevented, like he actually- - Look, all I'm saying is, look at JJ's, look at JJ's, 7.1. Apart from the Chris MD save, name another save. - Penalty. - Nah. - He also scored an own goal. - Yeah, I know. I don't know how he got a 7.1, I really don't. - The speed one where he tipped over the bar.

I'm just like no no he didn't he didn't tip over the ball how do you know he just missed all right that's what I mean so I don't know maybe he just got it from passing it me off six yard passes that's this yeah

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- What, from YouTube? - The goats of all time. - Yeah, just say new YouTube. It doesn't have to be under 21. - Give us one. - It's a bit weird, you know. - Any YouTube. - Any YouTube's of no age? - Yeah, that one first. - What, no age? - So the four goats of YouTube to you. - To me would... - Are you just fishing compliments now? - No, no, no. - 'Cause it's not me. - I know it's not me. - Who's the four goats of YouTube? They don't have to be 21 in England. - MrBeast. - It's right next to you right now. - MrBeast.

- Harry. - Okay. - We also did a watch growing up. Ali A. - Okay. - So cringe. I watched him and Vic's Pokemon Go, I know. - Pokemon Go, wow. - Yeah, that was the best game ever. And then- - It's still about now, you can play it if you want.

come on come on i don't play either and then one more i don't know because there's that many people i've watched growing up you can't just put me in the mentoring if you want to yeah i know what you've been watching oh what about what's everyone so it's hard to pick do you go harry over jj by the way i watched harry moore i can remember watching harry moore based on the fact that he said harry and not jj i'd say yes i want him to elaborate the whole thing is if you're 21 you were literally 11 when jj was posting right or even younger

So Harry Bateson as well He was 11 when I started posting Ah So oh wow But I'm saying Harry's more A bit newer wasn't he No Harry was before me Wow I think Well Harry was Squidget Harry Yeah You didn't watch that though right What When Harry when he was like 7

- No, no, no. - You know, Squidget Harry. - No, I didn't watch that. - Did anyone? - Yeah, when he starts singing "New Man, New Man", yeah, that one. - Did he have an audience, did he? - I think so. - No, I didn't. - Not like thousands, but people watched it. - Just type in Squidget Harry. - Like Blue Jumper throwing his chair around. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he's the one person I probably remember watching the most. - Okay. - So. - Like these ones? - Yeah, no, I don't remember them, no. - Even those. - I remember these.

I remember him reacting to this, but I didn't watch it when he had a big gap in his teeth. What a goat though. Yeah. How many views did he get a month still? Harry? Yeah. What, even now? Yeah. He hasn't posted in a while. He still gets so many views. It's really upsetting to see though how many videos of his have copyrighted music. Every single one. So he earns nothing from half of them. Three million a month.

- That was a lot lower than you thought it was gonna be. - A lot lower than I thought. When you think about it, that's no shorts. That's actually just pure old content. That's pretty short but impressive actually. But yeah. - All right, and if you had to make a Mount Rushmore of like new YouTubers or streamers? - Or yeah, just figure them out. - Or streamers as well. - You can put yourself on there. - What? - You can put yourself on there. - Okay, if I have to. Okay, I'll go Danny, me,

- I don't really know how old everyone else is. - The issue for me is Mr. Beast is actually, I suppose he's like 22. - Fuck off. - No. - I'm gonna guess 27. - Someone's a lot younger. - I'll guess 25. - Okay, okay. - There's no way he's 22. - Oh, by the way, I'm gonna bring something up in a second. - 25, get in. - It's always like 23 and under. - Okay, sure. So you can't pick Mr. Beast? - Yeah. - That's 'cause I've done nothing.

- I'd go, Danny Mee, then I'd probably just because of what he's done, Morgz, 10 mil at that age is ridiculous. - Like cringe, but all right. - I used to watch Morgz before he did the cringe content. - Okay, okay. - Cringe to me. - Wasn't it always cringe? - No, no, 'cause he used to do FIFA. I watched him when he was on like 36k subs, which is crazy. - Yeah, yeah.

- Morgz. - 21, I think, same age as me. - Is he? - I wanna know, the people who used to watch Morgz videos and not know it's cringe, the kids who believed it, what do they think now? Are they like, "Damn it, he lied to me." By the way, he's a go, I will say he's a go. - Yeah, you'd have to go in. And then, I don't know, I don't actually know any other youngsters. Do you have any in mind? - Like, America side, you got speed in that, but. - Yeah, but I'm thinking English side, yeah. - Sure. - He's also American. - He can't be young. - Or Canadian. - I reckon he's gotta be like 25, I reckon.

Trying to think of who else. In the UK? Bateson? Bateson's 36. All right. If we're going to America as well, I'll whack speed in there. Sure, sure. But if we're going to Britain, I can't think of anyone else who's actually quite young to come on. Yeah, yeah.

- That is interesting guys, seeing you and Danny together, it was kind of like a mind blowing moment for me. 'Cause you both turned up in the morning of the charity match. - Oh yeah. - Both wearing the Lightning McQueen's. - Oh yeah, was it planned? No, don't know. - No, but your energy was just kind of like, we were all looking at you just like, damn, that's what the new generation of YouTube is.

- It's just you two going, "How the fuck did it go to this shit?" - You're just arguing about who got them first. - Yeah, I know, yeah. - "Now I got them first." - "Now I got them first." - I did get them first. - And then about who got them cheaper as well. And it's just like- - Yeah, he put it as an expense and like, "Well done." Do you know what I mean? "Well done." - Yeah. - Jesus Christ. - My question for you is where did the 13 come from in your name? - Lucky number. - What reason? - Born on that date. My sister was born on that date. - Okay, yeah. - And it's just like a number that's- - He feels really stupid now that you actually have a reason. - Yeah, I was hoping my reason was better.

- Why, what was your reason? - I was born on the 13th, but you were as well, and your sister. - Yeah, and then my dad's got a tattoo on his neck for 13. That's probably not the reason why. Yeah, just 13 around my whole family is just mad. It's just like, it's constantly there. - Fair enough, because, right, in the charity match, when they were asking me what number I wanted, I sent to them 13 first choice, 17 second choice, 'cause my daughter was born on the 17th. Both numbers got rejected 'cause someone else already had them. - Man is always 17. - He wasn't 17. - Oh. - Freeze was 17. - He had 13.

Well, here's my story. So I asked them, I said, who the fuck's got the number? Cause I'll just get off them. It says Jacksepticeye. I thought, okay, I can't really get 13 out of my range. It's free. I'll bet him for it or something. But no, but then I completely forgot that they moved him onto the team. And then you came in and I'm looking at the score sheet. I think fucking ginger thing. And he's last minute. How come I got 13? What had happened was obviously they moved him and you come in late. So something about shirt printing. But then I also thought,

He got 13 shirt printed still. So anyway, anyway, fuck you. - I'm sorry. - I'm sorry to shake someone's hand 'cause he always takes his hand away. - It's just horrible that though, isn't it? - Yeah. But anyway, thanks. - I thought Danny got done quite harshly. - Yeah, he's great and super well. - Still take the piss out of him for it, but he said that they missed his, yeah, they missed quite a few successful dribbles and passes. - Yeah.

- But at the same time, those two shots alone warranted. - Yeah, three point nine probably justified. - But actually I'm glad he got a low rating 'cause he's so motivated now to play better in every charity match he's ever been in. - Yeah, but he should be motivated anyway because you weren't good. - You're right, you're right. - Do you know what I mean? If we're being honest. - Have you watched the video of me and him?

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's terrible. - He was so bad. - Okay, but I came to you how to play football and you're playing with proper Premier League regulation balls, they're so heavy. - What? - I've never kicked, mate. - He didn't have to kick them. - All right. - He was in net. - He was in goal. - I didn't watch the video. - But the thing is, even watching him in net, you just tell he's not gonna be the best outfield. - Okay. - It's crazy, look. - No, but give me a break, he was a bit of a loser early in life and now he's starting to get cool again and get older, start maturing. - You know what he's doing with the football team? - Caravan CF. - Yeah.

he didn't get accepted to his Sunday league team so he started he's just buying them he's mad isn't it the worst thing is if he buys them all he won't even start his own team that's jokes but your balls are so heavy Simon yeah but that's good because that's I couldn't yeah what the fuck man I couldn't lift the ball yeah but unlucky you're good when you play with proper balls though because you get used to it and then a shit ball feels better yeah

- That's why Josh lost. In the charity match, the balls did ping about a lot. They went really high. - How much are them balls each? - Yeah. - No, please tell me how much, 'cause you got a bag of them. - I think I remember watching the old prem yellow winter ball. That was like 125. - I didn't buy them. That's what I was- - Of course you didn't. How stupid am I? - Who gave it to you? - Nike. - Ah, fucking Nike. - Why? It's 'cause I use them now. I have 15 of them for every video. - Oh yeah, you know. - Look if it's- - No, exclusivity, you know? - Oh really? So you exclusive to Nike?

- No, I just said I'll only use them in my football videos. - Yeah, 125. - Yeah. - Wow. - Yeah. - Replica is what you want. - I'll tell you something though, you don't get pen balls anywhere as near and nice as you used to. - Mate, the circle one, type in. - The circle one. - Circle one, I remember that one, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Henry one, yeah. - The circle ball. - Fuck off. - That narrows it down, thanks Randall. - The circle design, mate. - You're talking T9 total. - Yeah, there you go. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Type in, Thierry Henry. - No, the yellow one, I love the yellow one. - Yeah, yeah, that one was dope when he's been out in the winter.

- Now it's orange, it's dead now. - And then there was a, I think it was a 2011 one where I had like a flare going around it and that was gorgeous as well. But I don't know if it was. You probably got it up now and it just won't be. Please be. Oh my God, I'm a genius. Yes. - Nice. - They are so nice. - Yeah, yeah. - Are the winter balls always yellow? - Wayne Rooney, this ball makes me think of Wayne Rooney. The other one makes me think of Henry. And the current ball makes me think of no one. Probably him actually now.

- What about you? You got him at your house? - Yeah. - And Rashford put him on his story. - Oh, did he? - No, did he fuck? - I believed it, you know? Like I saw it on, I literally went straight onto his Instagram and I was like, "Oh, he's put me on his story." And he hadn't even posted his story. - That is crazy. - Yeah. Oh, what a post. - Oh, that is gorgeous. Get me back to the 1992. What a ball. - Mitre, yeah. - Mitre, sorry. - That is Brexit. I like the 16-17 ball, you know? - I prefer the 15-16. That makes me think of Riyad Mahrez and Jamie Varder. - Well, yeah. - Leicester. - Good season.

They're just not as good now anymore. Don't like the 08 bull. 08, 09. No. 04 to 08, that's just supremacy. That's just unreal. Yeah. Cool, cool. Yeah, balls are falling off. The 12 to 13 there was absolutely sublime. That's getting taken as well. So nice.

Hold on, let's go back to the thing I had one I was going to ask you. Oh yeah, did you ever think you were going to go pro as a footballer? Of course I did. No, I was a fat bastard. I played 16 stone in high school. Every night, three litres of Pepsi Max, cherry and caramel nibbles. Genuinely, I was a fat bastard. I got called a fat cunt on Saturday for my team. We were winning 6-0 and this keeper comes up for a free kick.

So anyway, he shoots from there before he kicked the cheek on it. So I give it a big, you're fucking shit, aren't you? He goes, turn the fuck off, you fat cunt. So I let that one slide. Walk past him at halftime. Play today, keeps on letting six. He went, what? Is that how many Big Macs you're going to eat? Come on, I'm a 12. I turned around to him, I went, mate, you're literally double the size of me. Do you know what I mean? It's fucking embarrassing. And there was a guy on the sideline spitting him as he baits him.

And he had a bib on, right? And it looked like a sports bra on him. He was a big lad. Yeah. Said he walked past me after the game. Didn't come on this whole time. Stood there on the sideline, full kit, shins, bib. Didn't come on. 6-0 down, still didn't come on. Walked past me. I did brilliant when you came on today, mate. Oh, I'm horrible. I am horrible. Sounds like me at the charity match. When you were first describing that.

Did you ever think you were going to be a pro referee? Was that the goal? No, because I was doing this at the same time. I've got a feeling that, you know, if you're playing weekend league and I'm sat there going, have you missed that? You fucking shit cunt. And then I go and send Salah off on the weekend.

But I honestly think if I didn't do this, I would actually make it as a pro ref. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I genuinely, I think I'm a very good ref. And reffing at the age that I ref is so much harder because you don't have any linesmen. Yeah. So you've got to turn and if it looks offside, you've got to give it. Because the rule is...

They'll remember a dodgy goal more than a dodgy offside. So you've got to give it. So it's difficult. But if you get Lionels, it's a piece of piss. Someone I was talking to the other day said it's time to have like next charity match. We should have a YouTuber referee.

That would be good. But I don't... Now he's like, I know he's a referee, man. I'll never referee. Keep me as a player. No, I just don't think it works. Yeah, I don't think it works for the ref because he'd be under that much pressure of, do I give this? Do I card him? Stuff like that. Whereas Mark Clattenderg... Yeah. You know, it'd be too much banter, but not if actually proper referee in. You know, because Mark Clattenderg's still got to do a little bit of a job, you know. But it'd be jokes, though.

Maybe linesman. Oh, no, that's even worse. Yeah. No, it's even worse. Yeah, it's even worse. Sorry. I love giving it the shit to the linesman as well. There's free quotes, free quotes. It's sort of a

Oh yeah, I backed him for that though. There's three quotes every time I go to football. I can't remember the third one actually, but I always give it a, like this is even when I go and watch my mates play and the Lionel's literally where you are and I'm stood behind him. Fucking hell, I know any chance today, mate. And then when the ref gives him whatever colour they're going, put a white shirt on that. Well, just absolutely abuse the shit out of him. It's brilliant. And I was actually stood next to the referee's dad

once and I went ref get a fucking grip of this game right game was perfect by the way nothing going on that's my third quote and anyway hey this ref's got a grip of this game there's nothing wrong I went yeah I remember having a laugh right then you should know how hard it is refereeing I said mate I am a ref I know how hard it is didn't say another word to me that was his dad by the way he was his dad well I assume it was no one's gonna protect the ref like that do you know what I mean

- No, he's definitely not his dad. It's just a random look. - They're the same age. - Yeah, true. It says here, you've got a fear of dying.

- Have you found that? - It says here, him and Josh have got a fear of dying. - Yeah, no, he's correct. Yeah, man. - Well, John is not here right now, but he's our, he's unreal. Great guy. You met John? - This is the first time you've complimented him. - When he's not in the room. - Most weeks, these topics are so shit. - Yeah, great topic, you know? - Yeah, no, so I've seen a video of Josh saying that he's got a fear of dying. - Yeah. - And then I also have a fear of dying. - Okay.

- I don't want to die. - Me neither, by the way. - Yeah, but it's like, so like I'd love to go abroad and explore, but I'm scared of planes crashing and dying. - Oh, that's different. Okay, Josh has got like a, he's got a fear of getting old and dying. - Yeah, same. - Yeah, no, you're just picking the planes as like an example, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's not specifically planes. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- I enjoy, even people I know dying. Like I really want to get a pet, but I'm scared of him dying. Cause I didn't know how fucking sad it is. - It is sad when people die. - It's so sad. - Why don't you like, I don't know what to say, but- - Don't die. - Well, just get yourself used to it by getting like goldfish. - Yeah, what do you have to do? - Exactly. But then the goldfish will die and you'll be kind of like, ah. - It's not the same as having a dog though, is it? - It's not. - Name it and then you know, get close to it.

- I can never get a clock out, just tick it out and tickle it. - I meant name it and it would be close to being a dog. - Or just don't name the dog. - That was the outrageous thing I've ever heard. I already know what dog I'm gonna get. - My dog just runs off. - Dog, dog, come back dog. Dog.

- Wait, what dog are you gonna get? - Rottweiler. - Oh, cool. - I'm gonna call it Tubbs. - Nice, 'cause it's a big dog. - Yeah, I also had a Rottweiler when I was a kid and that died of cancer. - Oh, sorry. - And that was also called Tubbs. - All right, well, hold on. You wanna name it the same? - Yes, 'cause I'm gonna imagine it being reincarnated. - Ah, okay, okay.

I'm not a totally different dog. Yeah, but it's disrespectful to your original dog, I'd say. Oh, is it? Can't do anything about it, can you? He's dead. So if he wants to come back and haunt me, feel free. Funny story, actually. It was not funny because he's dead. I had a cat called Bella, black cat. None of that matters. So anyway, she came to my back door once. First time ever meeting her. Yeah, fuck off. She came to my back door the first time.

I thought, a fucking cat here. So I ring my mum while she's at work. The cat here must be homeless. Can we take it in? Somehow we managed to take it in. I'm not even joking. I used to walk to the shop on the estate and she used to follow me to the shop. And then my school that I went to was on the estate as well. She used to follow me to school so I had to run so she couldn't like, she was probably quicker than me so I don't know why I was running. I'm Tommy Ginger's bastard running down the road.

with caramel nibbles. So then I just run and then there's times that I'd walk my dog around the cemetery and she'd just come around walking with me. Yeah, that was hard, that one to take. That was very hard. That was the last pet I remember having that passed away. Oh no, my dog Tommy. But I don't want to go through all my pets that are dead now. No, we can change the subject if you want to. Yeah, feel free. You have a fear of death but you walk them around a cemetery. Yeah, I don't mind cemeteries.

I don't know any fucker in there, do I? No, but it has an odour of death. Not a bad place to do driving lessons, that, by the way. Not going to kill anyone here.

Well, people visit cemeteries, you know. Pardon? People visit them. Yeah, I went there with my mum on Halloween once. Shit it. Lasted 30 seconds. Went straight out. Halloween, went in, seen a balloon move. Shit it. My mum was like, it's only a balloon, come on. And then my mum seen a bloke. She shit it. Then we went home. Okay. So that was literally pointless. I remember playing Pokemon Go, but at the time when you could follow where they are. And I used to be on cemeteries, catching the crowlers. Was it pitch black? Nah. We're getting there. Close to it. But, um...

- Yeah, yeah. - Cheers for that one. - I'm just picturing it now, chasing this little Growlithe. But it's pretty bad that you- - I had to hack Pokemon Go 'cause I couldn't find a Pikachu. - Okay, yeah. The little thing we could Google where they were. - No, literally just, I was in San Francisco. - Oh, okay. - Caught a Dragonite and everything. - Oh, spoofed it. - Yeah, yeah. - Spoof. - That's what you call it when you change your location. - Right, okay. - Put on Pokemon Go. - I was in some Chinese app.

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uh probably gta races yeah because i make the i was literally playing that the other day and the new fifa's i just came out that i don't know if that shows how dead it's gone already or maybe oh yeah maybe but to be fair i wouldn't say my fever stream i'd say more of a variety streamer now yeah because i literally stream whatever game yeah and then i was just that shocked that

I literally Sunday game count Friday, Friday, Saturday. So the third day first ever come out and I'm already playing GTA races. - Yeah. We'll talk about this one way. Like, you know, this, this new FIFA seems to, well, FC seems to be dead right now, but obviously it's not fully out yet either. - Yeah. I can understand it be, but the releasing loads of like dodgy packs and stuff. Do you even still play FIFA? - Yeah. - On occasion. - For series. - I don't touch the game outside of streaming. - I can't win a game in debate right now.

I haven't even played a game in divisions. - Ah well, if you did you probably- - You get the game early. - He did, yeah. - Yeah, of course. - I said no. - Well, I went to an event. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. We'll speak about that after actually. I don't think it's appropriate. I mean, it is. I just won't say what he said. That was really weird. My phone. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, we can talk about that. - We heard about this as well 'cause in our chat, Josh was trying to help. - Yeah. - Okay, explain what it is. - So I'm sat there streaming. Simon Wedgman ringing me. Hello?

yeah you're not getting Simon it's clearly not fucking Simon so I'm on the phone for five minutes and my chat's been put on speaker put on speaker I'm not gonna put it on speaker just sit there and scream some random words so anyway right I'm thinking what the fuck is going on here genuinely your number and everything so I was like fuck off put it down and then I text Josh saying right Simon he was like you've been on the tube haven't you with Simon

Fuck you, I'm in Manchester streaming you dick But the thing is I don't know why he said that Because he was watching my stream Okay He was like listen to your chat Listen to your chat Put me on speaker Yeah Anyway So I messaged Josh I thought he'd had his phone nicked And left it on the tube or something

And then he said, you sent him a selfie of their choice to prove that you're a fellow. - Yeah, they were like, should we get rid of him from the chat? Should we kick him? And they were like, prove it. Send a picture of you with your thumbs down. So I was just like, it's on the train. - You were on the train as well. You were on the tube. - Yeah, well, I was on the train. - Oh, okay. - Not the tube. - Which is proper weird. And then he brings me back five minutes later, again, after double checking the numbers and I was like, what the fuck? Hello? Put him on speaker. And then he starts screaming the N word. - All right.

That's not Simon, guys. That's not Simon. And then I rang Simon and then he started doing it.

- Josh was really concerned and Freed was really concerned. - I didn't. - Jack, you didn't give a fuck. You were just kind of like, nah, it's not me. That's fine. Josh was like, nah, shorty shoe, shorty shoe, duh, duh, duh, duh. - But my point is- - It's 'cause I'm sat on my phone and I'm being told he's got your phone. How am I replying to you? - But the thing is, why is Josh texting you on your phone if someone else has your phone? He's going to reply to the issue. - Yeah, exactly. - Well, the weirdest part of it was,

He phoned me the night before. Yeah. But didn't. Yeah, because he came in and said, you just phoned me. Fuck you, I'm out. And it was when we just fucking...

Man United, we just lost to Bayern Munich. He's like, hey, why are you phoning me? We're 4-2 down. I'm not fucking phoning you, Simon. Do you know what I mean? Wait, so I guess that was how they did it. But I don't understand. It makes no sense. I've been told it's like someone's frauded a SIM or something like that. Well, be careful. Yeah, but that's the fact that I still had like 3G and 4G and everything. Yeah, it makes no sense. Yeah.

I don't know how it is. Hackers getting smart these days. Yeah. Stay safe in the streets. But you've been doing GTA RP as well, right? Yeah, yeah, GTA RP. I love that. It's class. It's only class if you're good with RP and with someone else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because other than that, it's terrible. I think Josh plays No Pixel, don't he? Yeah. I don't...

You got to pay to apply to get on it and then you still might get rejected. - Yeah, it's weird. - Talk about a fucking scam. Jesus. - Well, also people get into the habit of like, they start role-playing at the start and then after a while they just start staying in groups. It becomes more just like streaming for numbers than actually making content anymore. - Exactly, exactly. You just gotta be careful on how long you stay on it and what you do on it. - But you can find me on No Pixel next month, so.

- I was gonna say, I think the first clips I actually saw you were GTA racers. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - 'Cause it was the whole thing of like- - 'Cause that's when I started doing that, that's when it was Josh came into my chat and then he was like, "Keep doing what you're doing, you're killing it, mate." So I was like, "Thanks, Josh." - Sick. - It was the whole thing of like- - You see me? They're not even my fucking channel.

Oh yeah, yeah. But this is good though. This is why like... It's good, yeah, because I fucking talked to him and I said, we're splitting the money or I'm taking it down your twat. But I'm saying, even on TikTok, all the different accounts that are posting you on there, that's going to help grow and grow and grow. We were talking about speed as well. Like speed is everywhere. Yeah. And Kai is everywhere. But speed will get, obviously this sounds like stupid now, but it'll get...

- Oh no, Lazerbeam made the point here on the podcast last week. He was saying like he used to, Lazerbeam used to get 30,000 views on stream or more when he was killing it. But he's saying Speed is a way bigger name than he ever was. So, but Speed will still only get 30,000 views as well. So because everyone's posting the TikToks and stuff, he's a bigger name. - YouTube less so though. - YouTube less so. - Like people posting those doesn't. - No, yeah, yeah, sorry. On YouTube it's different, but on TikTok, you know. - Oh yeah, massively. - Although you can earn on TikTok now, so it's gonna get a bit messy as well on there.

- No, I can do what they want on TikTok. They've helped me massively so they can make whatever they want, mate. - Yeah, yeah. - YouTube's a different game though 'cause YouTube's probably where the most money is at. - Yeah, yeah. But maybe not after a while. I've started to see 10 minute videos come on TikTok now. I watched a guy, the first hook on the thing was like, "Oh, do you wanna watch me? "Do you wanna see how I've got such green grass in my garden?" - And then you skipped that one. - No, I watched the entire thing. I got to the end of the thing, I don't care, but I watched the whole thing.

- Four and a half minutes, this guy showed me how he got his grass to be so green. - How was it? - Satisfying. - Mate, it's unreal. He starts off by cutting it, then he gets this new mower that brings out like little turds of wood. And then he fills that in with sand and then gets moss imported. Mate, it was unreal. And I won't do any of it, but I watched the whole thing. But I would never click a video on YouTube. Do you wanna see how? - I don't actually have any grass.

- All right. - Don't have a shower, don't have any grass. - Yeah, yeah. - I was about to ask you about this. - Do you want to see my garden? - Yeah, sure. Well, you tweeted about moving to London. - No, I didn't tweet. No, people thought I was moving to London. - You tweeted, "I'm not moving to London." - Yeah. - But you are moving soon, right? - Hopefully, yeah. But it's just fucking- - Stop thinking I'm moving London. Manchester is clear. Live and breathe Salford. London is a shithole. United, United. - Yeah, well said. So this is actually- - All right, then. - This is my garden.

- How bad is that? - I mean, it's a garden. - It's a shit hole. - It's pretty bad, yeah. - That is bad. - I've seen gardens like that. - That just looks like lack of care though. - Well, yeah, I've not been out since I moved out.

I don't need to. And the back door sometimes doesn't fucking open. - It's better not in that than not opening, not closing. Okay. - Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean. And then there was a time when we had a really bad rain and I had to put a towel at the bottom of the back door because it was fucking coming in. It was fucking hell. - The one that got me though was when you said you didn't have a shower.

Yeah, no, I don't. You go to the gym every day to shower? Yeah. Yeah, you got to rate it, man. You're doing well to be able to, you know. Bro, he's the most subscribed to a streamer in the UK. People like that because he's working hard, you know. He didn't get given it by KSI like us two. Let's go. Are you a little bit, like, nervous about if you get a new place that you don't have the same

Like it won't have the same feel to it. Humble beginnings. It's trying to say, um, like, you know what I mean? They're like, it's the whole thing. I hate poor people. I'm laughing earlier. Most people start with like, they're in their bedroom. There's a bed behind them. That kind of vibe. And then they get a big studio and it doesn't feel the same. Yeah. True.

- I don't know, 'cause I'd love a room where like, Kaiserslautern's got where it's just a massive room where if I score an 80th minute goal on FIFA, I can do whatever the fuck I want. Whereas now I'm limited 'cause I've got a neighbor either side as well. Oh my God, you'll never believe what my neighbor did the other day. I swear to God, touch wood. Worse, worse. Good, 'cause that wasn't that bad. - Yeah. - Right. - Is that real wood? - Yeah. - Okay, cool.

you won't believe this r5 playing career mode five nil down am no no this is in the afternoon okay so there shouldn't be any moaning because it's r5 in the afternoon yeah right

are you banging on my bedroom window? Thinking, oh, the fuck? Yes, on my window. How the fuck has he got up here? Top floor or not? Let me finish. Okay, okay. Look out my curtain. He's got ladders, banging the ladders on my window. Oh my God. Right? I look down at him, red in the face and everything. He goes, will you shut the fuck up? Right? I just went like that.

Close the curtain. - Continue to do it. - But he's a fucking blue bastard anyway. - Okay, okay. - Up until two o'clock in the morning screaming, "We are the champions," when they won the treble. No wonder we don't get on. - Wait, and you were five nil down? - Yeah, yeah. - Did you come back or not? - No, we lost five nil. I was a bit shaken up at the fact I just had ladders banged on my window. - I thought Spurge wanted to come back and win the game. - No, because he's not even double glazed. Could have gone right through. - And break it.

Honestly, my house is not safe to live in. Not even a smoke alarm. - I can't believe it. - Not even a cooker. - Is it second floor or like what? Third floor? How big are these ladders? - Oh, second floor, yeah? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice. - I couldn't believe it. Honestly, I looked, I was like, what the fuck? But you probably read in the phrase. So that, them ladders must've been ever. Very ever.

- Yeah, fair. - So you are gonna move at some point? - Yes, hopefully. I will not be living there for the rest of my life. But my rent at the minute is 350 a month, which is ridiculous. But then again, the house is literally not deemed safe to live in. So I shouldn't have to be paying anything. And I've technically been there long enough to own the house, squatters rights, 'cause I've not paid any rent. - No? - So I've not signed a contract or anything. I've just got the money in the account waiting for her to give her, but she's not asked for any of it. So she's obviously doing well. Fucking hell. I'll move out, tell her two weeks later,

Block a number. And sell the house. Make her pay you rent. Yeah, exactly. I can't talk, man. He came into some money recently because... Oh, can we talk about this? Yeah. It's out today. He won Big Brother Clubs. Oh, let's go. Let's go. I must admit, I thought the final would be a lot closer than it was.

Yeah, it wasn't. Danny was very convinced. We actually saw Danny yesterday. We saw Danny yesterday and you were talking to him about the results and he went, it might be close. And Danny was like, nah, it's not going to be close. He's going to walk over me. And he did. And you did, sorry. Yeah, he was always convinced. I think that was mad. I was expecting him to beat me because he's...

- Danny Irons is massive, isn't he? - There's a new king in town now and his name's Ginge. - Okay, now he's at it, get in. - And also Danny's annoying. Actually getting too annoying. No, I'm joking, I'm joking. - No, decide. - Well, hold on, hold on. He's really annoying. By the way, I love him, I actually do, but he's so annoying. Not in an annoying way, he's just so energetic.

I can't believe it. Where's his energy from? You said it, right? He's at your house. He's walking circles around you. You're having a conversation. - Yeah, we were on a pitch filming this video. And while John's setting up a camera angle, I'm just stood there and I'm like, "Oh yeah, blah, blah, blah." He's answering me but circling.

- There was the- - And I'm like, why are you circling me? - Every time. - All the time. - The thing is, there's times where he's just chill as fuck and then there's times where he just tries fighting people. - Yeah, but he's a legend though. But at the Arsenal Spurs game, he was chatting to me, Simon, I think Chris as well. We just stood there. He's just moving. Like he's nonstop moving. I'm like, bro. - ADHD, innit? - Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, yeah. But at a different level though. Different level. - He's got ADHD. - ADHD capital letters. Underlined as well.

He's got something else. Well, that sounds really rude now. No, not if I do. No, not if I do. Disgusting. All right. What's the difference in your opinion between UK and US streamers?

apart from us streamers being just you know um uk streamers are so much funnier it's unbelievable really yeah myself included but no seriously do you think they're funny just just to us though yeah it depends like i think to understand like my viewers on twitch i think he's 86 80 uk and i'll speak to someone who works for twitch and said we've never seen anything like that before like even like castro stuff like that there's like 60s so i'm thinking

maybe people are understanding my humor more in the UK than they are abroad. Which I can understand because I don't expect people in America to understand my humor because a lot of it is just sarcasm. - And I feel like as viewers, I'm not saying we, but as viewers, we have to tolerate so many American streamers and people who say it's nice and refreshing to see someone

- And also the fact that you're from up north as well probably helps as well for those people who are up north too because it's finally somewhere I can actually enjoy. I'd rather listen to these like Londoners. - Well, I think the further north you go, the harder it is to break America. - Yes. - To get a big American audience. - Yeah, probably is. Also the big thing on the people watch 'cause of accents as well. Like Foot Crunch when he used to stream, I liked his accent. It's just interesting, innit? I don't know where he's from, but it's interesting. - He makes Spanish, innit?

Something like that. I met him the other day. Oh, did you? He's like the Mr. Beast of football, isn't he? Like FIFA videos. Yeah, FIFA videos. In terms of like highly... I think Chris MD's the Mr. Beast of football videos. Yeah, Chris MD's the guy with the football videos. Okay, yeah, sure. But, okay, sure, sure. But, okay, sure. I think this Footcrunch guy... Speak your mind if you want. I think this Footcrunch guy, he optimises his videos more. He's more like... Chris MD's got obviously a really big back in the day. Chris MD's football crunches FIFA. Yeah.

- Yeah, true. But now, have the Crunchers started doing like traveling to the hospitality games and going to games, doing vlogs and stuff? - That's not actual football content. I go into matches. That's vlog. - That's also not MrBeast style content. - Yeah. - Or ChrisMD. - Okay, okay, sure, sure, sure. - Also, I'm pretty sure I heard a story about Crunch. I think he spent five grand to learn something about YouTube's algorithm. It's obviously paid off. - Yeah, nice. - So you gotta respect it, but yeah.

Like the thing is his thumbnails as well are just so basic, but that's what YouTube is turning into. - Yeah, and I mean more like he's pasting his videos and the style of his videos. MrBeast more in a sense of like, yeah, he's making videos for that kind of algorithm. Whereas Chris just makes good content obviously still. - 100%. - But nah, so you've been doing vlogging as well, right? You've been vlogging the United games. - Yeah, I love the United games. Went to the Burnley game the other day. - In the Burnley end, right?

- Fucking hell, risked me life just to watch Man United. Honestly, I got told to leave. - Really? - Yeah. - Someone's obviously not watched the vlog. - I've seen the TikTok clip. - Yeah, no, so we get there, I'm wearing a full, we start it because I should have been in the United away end, but some knobhead didn't want to wait an extra three minutes, so just fucking went in with our tickets. And when you go in, you can't come back out. - Right, okay.

So as you can see that I've got my hat on. Yeah, see what I mean? They're not upper. - Okay, so they clocked you after a while. 'Cause the clip I saw was you reacting to the Bruno goal. - Yeah. - I was expecting you to celebrate it. We actually handled it quite well. - Yeah, no, if I celebrated I'd been fucked. - Yeah, of course, of course. - Absolutely fucked. - Of course. - And if I'd celebrated, I actually got told as I went in, if you celebrate, you will be removed. - Okay. - So I literally couldn't. - Yeah, okay. - So I go in. - Do you know that guy? - Yeah.

- Yeah, what behind me? - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, it's my mate. - If you don't know, it was a bit too close. - So anyway, I go in. - Why is he just like- - Why is he on you? - Also, why is he looking in a different direction than you? What's he looking at? - Oh yeah, that's true.

- Is he high? - Yeah, but no, he's not high. Everyone's faking to say he's high, but no, he's not. - He's not watching. - What's he looking at? - The thing is, because the way we were there, like we were just stood on the stairs because everyone was stood up. It was the second roughest stand that we got put in. - Really? Okay, yeah. - So I found a black t-shirt in my- - What? This is so close to you. - I found a black t-shirt in my car, which I managed to put over the United shirt.

So I blended in, I had my hat on and then a couple of people clocked me straight away but didn't say anything. And then what actually happened is there was a ginger guy next to me. Someone's come across, looked at this ginger guy, gone, "Fucking hell, it's Angry Jinx." - Oh no. - Then looked at me and gone, "Fucking hell, it's Angry Jinx." So that was a fucking hilarious. - Wait, so you got found out being- - That was him there, that was him there. - Does he recognize you? - Yeah, that's him there. Say that again, sorry. - That is ginger. No, I'm saying you got recognized and that's what,

- Yeah, so then- - You ruined it, rather than you just- - Yeah, literally. So I was back in Burnley going, "Burnley, Burnley, shoot at that old nana, you know what he's like." Stuff like that, giving it a fucking old Burnley. And then, mate, half time was genuinely like a conveyor belt for photos. So then I had my own fucking personal steward stood next to me.

I thought, fucking hell, hello. Right, and then, how do you concede? Was that the guy stood on you? Yeah, yeah, literally. So, they weren't happy at all. And then the steward, my mate, Fred, goes like this. So we got told to move up back so there was more room. So my mate, Freddie, looks at him and goes,

So then they're like, you fucking bastard. So the steward comes over and she's like, look, what you've just done there has given us a lot of hassle. So, you know, we'd like you to go for this concern of your wellbeing as well. So then we just had to leave early. But they scored in the second half anyway, right? Who? Bruno scored in the second half. No, first half. Okay, okay, okay. So we won 1-0. And then, but I'm just, I'm honestly buzzing because it was probably better for the vlog.

And the fact of, I pissed a load of Burnley fans off by, didn't even celebrate or anything. - If you lost that game, it would have been way worse in the end. - The thing is, if they were winning one nil, they'd have loved me being there. 'Cause they would have just hounded me, hounded me, hounded me. But if they wanna be mad asses, they can be mad asses.

- I don't mind. - I was just saying you're enjoying YouTube then, you're posting vlogs, you're posting- - I love the vlogs, I love the vlogs. The main channels are just 'cause like streaming and YouTube are just totally different things. It's like, I prefer streaming because once you're done there, you're done. Whereas YouTube is like, anything I do on stream, I can also put on YouTube. I just don't feel that hits the same. - So your main channel is that?

can you pull it up as well? Do you post stuff off your stream on the main channel? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not just FIFA, that's like FIFA, GTA, stuff like that, anything really. - Yeah. - Like police officers. - They put on here, Jon put on here, your description is Minimum to the Best Mate, and you said that your mods did that. - Yeah, so basically I changed it anyway or something. I can't remember what I put it to, and then I was just in Discord with my mods.

And then they were like, yeah, we need to, it was a bit boring that Morgan's I put, I just put best mates from any minute. - Yeah. - So that's what they did. - And did you start your channel or did your models help you start a channel? So was it like a team effort? - No, no, I started my channel and then the editor I'm still with now edited like my first four videos for free. If you scroll right down, I'll just go to oldest. There's Brexit or exit.

And basically it was the most Brexitist team going. Oh, I click on one of the videos, by the way. First of all, bad editing. Stella. We're doing drinks. You're just holding that. Yeah, exactly. Gold chain, tattoo sleeves, a white vest on and everything. Yeah. Whiskers. Nice. So they edited that for, yeah, fake tattoo sleeves. And I draw my teardrop on as well. Nice.

So then he edited them for free for the first four. And then I was making enough off Twitch to kind of pay him like 20 pound a video. - Sick. - That's some real. But yeah, I mean that series, I'd love to bring it back, but it's just too stressful using shit players. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, so it's just so much effort. - Yeah, you still play clubs or are you off it now? - I mean, I don't touch clubs. I'm gonna start doing it on stream though. 'Cause before I actually got invited to Big Brother,

I was doing it on stream anyway. And they were like, well, you should do what Simon used to do, Big Brother Clubs. And I'd never heard of it before then. So I was like, okay, what's this? So I got into it. I looked. I was like, oh, okay, nice. And then he tweeted out and I said, you Brexit centre-half, sir. Yeah. Now we're getting robbed. Yeah. Did you, with pro clubs, you know, you're going to stop playing it again. Are you going to do it with the same mates from back in the day or what? Because I had the same thing. I played with some mates on pro clubs. Every time I mentioned I'm going to stream, they're always like, oh.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I'm like, come on guys. - Because the banner in the party is a lot different to the banner that you can put on stream. So no, I would just do it with other streamers. I know Goldbridge said he wants to do clubs so he can come on and stuff like that. Anyone else really? - I don't think he'd struggle to find streamers that will play.

- Yeah, no, the thing with the clubs as well, you can just bounce off each other so well. - Yeah, for sure, for sure. - It's class, absolutely class. - It's like different kind of rage as well. You can rage at the game, but it's more like your fault as well. So it's just, I enjoy clubs. - Yeah, no, I love it, absolutely. But I think, I don't know if they've changed anything with it this year. I've not played it yet. - Did you know here you're ranked number one on famous birthdays on November the 13th? - Who the fuck else is born on November the 13th? - Lando Norris. - Fuck off! - That's actually- - Wait, so what does it mean by ranked number one? - Jimmy Kimmel as well.

- Hold on, how's FGTV got third? This bloke's 14. - Wait, so, oh yeah, but what does this mean by number one though? - You're the most searched or the most- - No way! - Yeah, the most- - Fuck you, Lando Norris. - Whoopi Goldberg as well. - Snoop Dogg. - Oh, what? - Whoopi Goldberg, she's won every award. - I don't know what that means. - He's 40 years old, don't worry about it. - Ninja. - Yeah, but Jinj. - Jinj's got an EGOT, mate. - Damn. - Who the hell is that? Steve Zahan. - We're really starting to like- - He's a big actor, to be fair.

Can't be that big number 25. Emma Radicanua, what a goat of tennis. - Yeah, clearly not. - Oh, he's from Criminal Minds. 75 in, Joe, Jesus. What is he doing there? What is he doing there with that perm? Fuck off. Callum Grant's quite funny. - Nana Cool, isn't that a girl from Fortnite? - Is it like the guys, what are they called? - Rekka Rekka. - Yeah, that's the one, yeah. - I like how he's number 41, but they are identical twins. - Yeah, keep going, honestly. Oh wow, his bro's not even done it.

- Unlucky, Jesus. - How is getting recognized now for you? 'Cause I feel like in Manchester, you know like everyone has their like town hero kind of thing. I feel like you're the biggest Northern YouTuber by quite a long way.

- He don't count. - He is like- - He retired into his house elsewhere. - Yeah, yeah. - Nah, but nah, I mean, to be fair, as soon as I started TikTok, it's like quite location-based. So I'd get recognized. I remember the first time I ever got recognized, I was getting a pair of Sandico's.

in sports direct um and then he came up to me as i watch all you are you are you are you streams and can i get a photo yeah that's the first and then i've seen him like years later on and he actually only lives like 15 20 minutes away from us that was mad yeah uh but yeah i don't mind it it's not there's nothing to mine really he's got a photo don't you just crack on i saw when we did like the lap around the the seven match i saw more signs and stuff for gingers than anyone else

- I saw so many signs for you. - I saw the most of speed, I'll be honest. - Really? - But I did see a lot for you. - Oh wow. I actually didn't see them, sorry. I want to give you my shirt anyway, I wanted to keep that. I'm fuming as well because I got my mates and my mum there and my sister and then I was looking on the wrong side of the stadium the whole fucking time so I didn't even see them. Fucking fuming. - That wasn't even like a box area on the other side.

- No, no, so like where our bench was, I was looking behind our bench, but they were behind the other bench. - Oh, okay. So you, okay. I thought you meant you were looking the far side. - No, no, no, no, no. I was teaming. - He was asking me during the game, like, "Why have I got two shirts?" He's like, "Oh, am I the only one to get two shirts?" And I was like, "Yeah, I think you are actually." And then, 'cause I only had one, then I realized, nah, I'm the only one to get one shirt. And everyone had two shirts. - Why did we have two though? - So, no. - But I weren't meant to leave them, was I?

- No, so we had ours 'cause some were being used for auctions and stuff. So we wanted- - Is that to raise money or is that for your own pocket? - To raise money for our pockets. No, it's 'cause we had to have them as match worn, but we also wanted our match worn shirts. - Right, okay, yeah. - So- - Half time. - We swapped at half time. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I just wanted them though. - But then it was also some people give away shirts if you wanted.

- Oh, is this Nick? - What's this? - Yep. - This is the exact same shot that JJ made in his chunks. - Okay. - Yeah, sick. - That was about five times the speed. - Did you, wait, so you scored in this from goal? - Yeah, that's Pete Bock, by the way. He scored the own goal, the Darwin, Darwin, Nunes. - Yeah, yeah, what a guy. - Fucking hell. - Legend, mate. - Legend, can't play football to save his life though. But I do like him.

- That was a- - Easy catch from someone like me there. - So how do you score? You go for a corner or what? - No, no. I come out field second half. This, oh no, it's not the one I was on about, nevermind. - Nice free kick though, nice idea. You gonna play in a lot more charity matches this year? - Well, I play, anyone's I can get to, I'll play in. Just can't love it. But if it's like four hours away, then I just, I have to have a think. I've got one in Swansea coming up, but is that Jamie Lynch or what?

- And I got one in Swansea, but it's like, it's just that far of a track. Like even today, like two and a half hours in and two and a half hours back. It's just, it's just a killer. - He came for Philly, he didn't come. He tagged us on. - Anyway, we're gonna play a game right now. We're gonna play North versus South. Okay, so you versus Simon. I'll be the judge 'cause I'm in the middle. Let's see what we got. Jon's shitting himself. - So we got a judge which one's better. Is it better in the North or the South? - Ah, okay. First one's food, Jon.

- Food. Why are you saying John? - Well, 'cause I'm like, okay, you get- - Yeah, well, how are you struggling so much with this? - It's just a shit game, mate. It's just a shit game. Food, what's better- - I told you he'll do it. I said, yeah, this is all right. Like, we can talk about this. Randy will call it shit. - This isn't buzz, it's not shit. - Well, okay, what's better? Food in the North or South? - Food in the North. - Okay, name a Northern food. - Chipper. - Get it in the South.

- Yeah, but it's a Northern thing. - It's a Northern thing though. - Even I'm gonna say. - Doner kebab, that's a Northern thing. - No, well, okay. - You can get it there, but like. - You can get them in fucking Scotland. - No, no, no, okay, I'm gonna say they're better in North, for sure, but I'm saying, are you gonna agree with that? - Yeah. - Okay, fine. - They got Bovril. - Good game, Jon. - Oh, Bovril, that is Tory, to be fair. That is very Tory. - What? - It is. - How is, how? - If you have a Bovril in Manchester, that is Tory. - How the hell is that? - They take from the South. - People from the South don't know what it is.

- You don't even know what Vimto is either. - I know what Vimto is. - I know there's people the other day, I was in the store, not the other day, like the other week when I was there.

I said, I looked him in the eye. He had a vimto. Pointed out, no, no, no. I said, you've got to try that. Didn't try it. I was with a guy from Newcastle. I can't believe Bob Roll's just been called Tory. Bob Roll is Tory in Manchester. I was driving through London with someone from Newcastle and he said, are there any Asdas in London? And someone was like, oh, I don't know, I don't know. He saw an Asda, he cheered in the car. He said, Asda, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because apparently you do get them in the South as well. When we went to...

- No, we went to- - Cheered in Asda, mate. - We were in Brighton, I think it was, for a Sidemen video and I had a Bovril and they were like, "No one apart from Northerners orders this." - Wow. - What do you call a- - There we go. - What's a bacon cob?

- What? - See? - No one uses it. - It's Midlands, it's Midlands only. - The bacon cob. - This proves I'm not from the north. - A cob, I know what that is, is a bit of bread in it. No one says that, it's a bacon butter or a bacon sandwich. - Where I'm from, it's bacon cob, so that proves I'm not from the north, by the way. - Proves you're inbred. - Oh my God, well, the bacon is. - Nice. - Oh, okay. - Yeah, yeah. - Sports culture. - Manchester all day.

They'll not find a fan base like my United fans. I'm a Leeds fan, but in the grand scheme's the thing. You can't even, you think the London Derby's more like, it's nowhere near Liverpool and Arsenal. What the fuck am I? Liverpool United, nowhere near that. My first ever Liverpool United game, from minute one, the atmosphere was so aggressive. I loved it. Amazing. I'll go north on that. Okay. Cities. South.

it's a tough one because I do like my, fingers with Manchester Central, it's full of smack heads, but that's what gives it the culture. Yeah. It does, honestly, it does. It really does. So I'd probably back, probably South, but, no, actually no, I'm going Manchester. I'm going Manchester because I think there's just too much around here. And there's, I mean, honestly, there's no houses.

- They're just like hidden away. - And just outside London. - Yeah, exactly. - And there's also the tall ones, the tall ones that you see everywhere. Whereas in Manchester, yeah, I like Manchester. - Well, he went north, I went south, so you're the judge.

- It's gotta be North. Don't give him pity points. - Remember you're not North is your logic. - Yeah, I know. Well, I mean, I like London though, but he hates London. - Yeah, but you're the- - Okay, I'll go South. - Yeah. - I remember that. - Two, one. - Outdoors. - Outdoors. - Well, for example, Manchester is very much more of an industrial city. So all the bricks are red. You've got red buildings. - That's a nice way of saying shit hole.

- It's like a proper industry, man. It's like where Britain kind of was built is Manchester originally. And London was just a ship yard, you know? - South. - No, no chance. I would, I, you can't, honestly. - Nah, I'm going North, man. Peak District. - Thank you, thank you. - Lake District. - What? - Cornwall, fuck off. - Cornwall, Brighton. - Fuck off. No, Brighton's not getting, no way. No way. Okay, North. Next one. - No, thank you. - You can't argue anything on Brighton, mate. - Three one. - Fucking hell. - Thank you.

- Oh, Banner of Humour is north any day of the week. - No, we got Living first. - Living. - Oh, Living. Well, I live in a shithole, so I think I'm bound to say South. - You get shitholes in South as well. You do. - We're still going South. - But the one thing I will say though, is it's a lot more expensive here, even though Manchester is a better price. - Oh yeah, more expensive. - And stuck up. Everyone is stuck up down here. - That's nothing to do with Living. - It is though, 'cause you go to the shop and you're like- - No, that's to do with like Banner of Humour. - Okay, sure. Okay, Living South then, but Banner of Humour is north for sure. - It's all north, easily. Which is interesting, 'cause name me a funny content creator from the north.

- Thank you, Ginge. - Ah, stop it. - Stephen tries. - Stephen, yeah, but he's from- - Mark Goldbridge. - Goldbridge, yeah, yeah, it says. - Well, where's Mark Goldbridge actually from? I swear Mark Goldbridge was a Forest fan. - No, it's just one of the bollocks. - Okay. - Is he actually from Manchester though? 'Cause like you don't sound like him. - I don't think he is from Manchester, no. - Can you Google where he's from? - I was gonna say you don't sound like him. - I think he's from- - I'm proper Manc, born and bred. - I'm interested to know this. Quick pause in the little game while we Google Mark Goldbridge. - I mean, no one in- - He's just in-

- Brent D. Casari, that's his name, Casar. - Sorry. - Casar, Casari? - Cesar. - Cesar, there you go. 44! - Yeah. - Sick. - Sick. - Nottingham, yeah. - I hope not, I won't see you shouting that. - His accent's very similar to me. Soho, where is that? Birmingham. - Birmingham. - Oh, so he doesn't even live in Manchester?

- Noah, he lives about, I think an hour and a half away. - Okay. - Sick. Okay, back to it. Vantahuma was obviously North. Accents, it depends what you're asking now. - South. - What? - No, man. - No. - Half the world can't understand them. - That's unique. - Now he's categorizing us and that I will not stand for. - Yeah. Okay, I would say- - You're not Northern, remember? - But I do say Bath and I do say grass. - Maybe you're not Northern. - No, I'm not. - Obviously you're gonna say Bath. What else is it? - Bath.

- Grow up. - What do you do instead of having a shower, Simon?

Go to the gym. Let him say the word buff. There you go. Yeah nice vile that Even Americans would say grass. They won't say grass. This is grass grass You have to put in extra effort to pronounce grass grass. Oh I'm the judge I'm gonna say brilliant getting battered here We've got two tigers. What do you mean by work on this one?

- Like, Manchester all day, Manchester workers are so much hard working. - Well, it depends. - Every building built by a man. - Are we talking like jobs, North v South? Are we talking the workers? - If it's workers, I'm going Manchester all day. - But if it's jobs? - If it's jobs, there's probably more down here. - Probably, yeah. - Well, we're gonna go with jobs. - Sure, South. - Of course we are. Nightlife. Oh man, I would say- - I don't go out, so I don't know. - I will say, after being on tour,

North is so much better. When you go to Newcastle- - I'll agree with you, but I think it's only for like a night. - Yeah, well, it's more wild. - I thought Newcastle was unbelievable for a night out. - Yeah, but then again, it might not be what you want. You might want like a nice, like, you know, prestigious evening, you know? But like fucking like crazy people, North is always the best. - I like how you're saying this, like the people that want a prestigious evening, like-

some dickheads, but you're the one that always says we need to find a bar with a cigar lounge. - Yeah, that's chill. - I prefer a chill, like if you go to the pub and have a drink. - Yeah, I prefer that. - Bar with a pepsi and that. - But if you're gonna go out for like a night out, I'd rather go like, I'd rather go to Newcastle than like London. - I won't argue it. - Last time I went out was with Pi and that was about just over a year ago. - Where was that? - We went to a bar called The 42s. - Yeah. - What's funny? - Sounds like a funny night out.

There's like indie music and then the drinks like two quid. So I didn't mind it to be fair. - And friendliness, north. - Yeah. - Mate, I cannot stand the south. They don't speak to you. They don't look at you. And if you speak to them, they just ignore you. - Yeah, it's true. - It wasn't a player's hotel. It was my mate's hotel. It was down the same night. Literally me and my mate, two other people. "Hey, are you okay? You had a nice day?"

That's the response I got. - They were shocked that you talked to them. - I've met some nice people. - I know I'm one of them. - Nicest people I've ever met in London were Japanese. - Wow, wow. - South. - Sorry? - In Japan, they're Southern Japanese. - I'm not for the fucking, I'm for the biography, mate. Jesus. - How are you? Yeah, I'm good, thanks. Whereabouts in Japan are you from? - Well, based on this, the North is one quite easily. - Yeah, well, if I'm the judge, I'm gonna pick North anyway. - I think it was eight two. - Even though I don't like you guys calling me Northern, I still,

- Yeah, I would say- - You'd rather be normal than sound. - Yes. I just like you guys categorizing me as that without actually giving me a chance. - So clear. - You know? Yeah. - Well, my last topic I wanted to talk to you about- - Yeah, go for it. - Is music. Because you listen to like two people. - Take that and a tell. - Yeah. - No, do you want to see my Spotify play? - Do you actually only listen to that? - No, no, no. But I only, I got brought up on like mum music, 'cause I had no dad.

- Well again, for those on the audio side of this, he did a funny thing where he hit the chair. I'm not laughing at the fact that he had no dad. - Oh, I am. - He isn't. He's laughing at the fact that he had no dad. So obviously I listen to whatever my mum listened to growing up. So I got Fireflies. Do you want bands or songs? - Bands. - This is a new iPhone by the way. - Bands. - That's the brand new iPhone. - Coldplay. - Yeah. - Oh.

- How can you disrespect Coldplay? - Coldplay, yeah Coldplay. - I bet you listen to like gangster music like Graham and that. - I listen to everything but Coldplay are the worst. Coldplay and ABBA, worst two. - Oh my God!

- What the fuck? - Right now, Simon. - ABBA have like a couple good songs. - No, they don't. - Okay, they don't have any good songs. - Watch the documentary on ABBA. You'll see one of the most like, they changed the game. - Yeah, it doesn't, sorry. - The music. - Sorry. - Anything, like basically the old songs are the best songs. Michael Jackson, Cascada, Ndubs.

- Oh, I bet you listen to gangster music. You're listening to End Arms. - Well, yeah, but that's, oh, iSpice, That Boy's a Liar. - That's my son. - iSpice is one of the best in season. - iSpice. - Rag and Bone, he's good. - Oh, yeah. - Kings of Leon, JLS, Cheryl Cole. - You're gonna go to the JLS tour? - Bro, X Factor music. - What? You're gonna go to the JLS tour? - No, I'm not. - Did you watch X Factor as a kid?

- Yeah. - These are all X Factor. - Yeah, that's true. - Yeah. - Olly Murs. - Yes, X Factor. - Whitney Houston. - Well, she wasn't on it. - The Kid LAROI. - Okay. - Pop Smoke every now and then. - Oh, okay. - I've got Lil Yatchy. - Yatchy. - Type in yacht on Google. - Lil Yotty. - Oh, Lil Yotty. - Like the boat, you know the boat? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yatchy.

I Spy that was a good tune Rihanna please don't stop the music Miley Cyrus The Black Eyed Peas Jennifer Lopez Madonna Spice Girls Billy Joel from all of this though is Adele number one easier Adele and take that number one and two

- I used to, my mum used to have a DVD of the take that concert and it was really like my fire. You should know it. - Yeah. - So then the dance they used to do when they take the top off, I used to do it in front of the TV. - Nice, for your mum. - Well, don't make it weird. - I got a question for you. When you were a kid, did you watch cartoons? - Yeah. Simpsons, Johnny Test, Tom and Jerry. - Okay. - And then,

- I think they were probably the only ones. Lazy, oh no, LazyTown weren't a cartoon. I wonder how that was actually filmed, 'cause there's some interesting characters in there. - LazyTown, what's the second one you said? Johnny Test. - Johnny Test.

- I want to see that because obviously we are old people, right? So when we were younger, we watched different cartoons and talking to someone like yourself, I want to see what cartoons you had as a kid. - It just looks like. - Oh no. - Ben 10. - Yeah, that's the one I was waiting for. 'Cause Ben 10 was like gone my time. But you know, someone like you, you'd watch Ben 10. - But like a lot of things, like if you go on CBBC's 2010 shows and stuff like that, they were the best ones, like Trapped, stuff like that. You've never heard of him, I know. Horrible Histories. - I know that one. - Yeah, you know that one.

- Raven. - What, not that's a raven? - No, Raven the crow. - Tracy Beaker. - Like the bird. - Tracy Beaker's old school as well. - With the guy dressed all in black. - Arthur? - Yeah, I know that one. - Oh my God. - Okay, okay, cool. So cartoons are still the same then. - Am I high? Wow, memories. - What year are you born in? - 2001. - Oh my God. - I know, I want to end the podcast with that. - That's crazy. - 2001. - Yeah, that's actually mad. - Why weren't you? - 94. - 92. - I know. - Yeah, but you got to witness the United's treble.

Bet you love that. Yeah.

- You know what's true? - My brother's a United fan. - Oh, that's... - Yeah. - I was talking to Josh or something and I made a joke on one of the videos like, "Oh, you know, it's between 26 and 30 age group." He's like, "Yeah, that's not me." I'm like, "Yeah, true." And neither is it you. - Oh God. - You're not in that age group anymore. - Wait, what is? - Whatever the topic was, we were talking about that age group and he was just like, "Well, that's not me." I was like, "Yeah, shit." - What, 26 to 30? - Well, he's 32. - One. - You're 31. - I was gonna say. - Well, it doesn't make a difference to be fair. I'm still mad.

- So how old were you when you were filming videos that I was watching? - 20. I started at 21. - I've been watching you for 11 years. - 21. - Okay. - I've been doing YouTube. My first video was 2013, 2012, December. - Oh wow. - So over 10 years. - What was it? - It was a winning the gold cup.

Good series. I don't remember that one. It was two episodes. Great series. Me winning the gold cup edited at uni. You know, I've got a fact right now that's going to blow your mind. Is it really? It's going to blow your mind. Okay, here we go. Here we go. He's older than Harry Kane. Pick a new fact. Fucking hell. Well, that's a good fact. Yes. That's a good fact. He's been living off this fact for ages. Isn't that sickening though? Don't you think that Bernardo Silva looks a lot older than he is? Yeah, 100%.

- Oh, there's a video of Bernardo Silva. - You're so angry right now. - Why, do you think he looks young? - No. - He's like, no, he looks his age. - The fact that like Harry Kane is in my head is like a 40 year old man and he's older than him. He's just an old guy, he's an old fogey man. - He's not, isn't he prime? - Yeah, in football, but as a man, he seems like an old person, like, you know. - 30 years old, he's not old. - I know that, but I'm saying he seems older. - Like you. - Unless you say 31 years. - I sound like a podcast man.

No, mate, Harry Kane's unbelievable. I love him. Yeah, I'm not... Okay. I'm not hating on Harry Kane. I'm just saying he looks a lot... I'm wearing a Bayern shirt right now. I just realised. Harry Kane and Scoracic the other day, didn't he? Yeah. Well, half the fucking team did. True, very true. Fucking 7-0. Yeah. And then Newcastle yesterday, 8-0. Yeah, eight different goals. Can't wait for United tomorrow. That'll be 9-0. Bro, during the whole of Big Brother Clubs, he just has outbursts. United, yeah. He growls and says United. I growl a lot. I don't mean to. We're playing the game. We're just here.

- Yeah, it's 'cause like when I go to snap someone and I miss them, I'm like, "Oh God, I'll get you." - We're in the menu sometimes. - Did I? - It would just be like, "Oh, let's start the game. All right, cool." - I couldn't get an hold for it. - Are you good at FIFA? Would you say you're good at it? - He turned up to the first episode in boots and shin pads. - Yep. - Did he know there was no camera? - There's no camera. - Did he know that?

- Well, at least you're there in spirit. - Yeah, of course it is. I didn't have my armband on though, 'cause obviously I'm not gonna be captain. So I had my Sunday e-calls on, I had my shin pads on. - Yeah. - Tucked into me socks. Unbelievable. - Nice. - Well, I feel like you're about to drag something on. It's throwing me off.

Well, thank you very much for coming on. Thank you for having me. It's been a pleasure. It's all right. Everyone, check out Jinj. Check him out if you don't know already. I'm sure they do. Yeah, they definitely do. Please, please do. Thanks for coming on. And we'll, I don't know. I've given up on this. Bye. Sick, sick, sick.