Goodbye Main Character Energy
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you know what? I do swear. Or you know what? I do like to stay up till 3am or you know what? I do like to get ready for two hours. Like I'm not trying to be like, I get ready like really fast. Or like, I even was saying, I was telling this guy that I like flying Delta and you like flying American because like, I want the points. I like being upgraded. And like,

Six months ago, I've been like, no, I'll just like fly economy, whatever. But I was like, no, you know what? I do want to be a bougie. Like, I'm just so much more okay being like, no, this is me. And if you can't accept it, I don't really care anymore. Where are your besties in your ear? Episode of Me Girl Pod. Live!

Welcome back to another episode of Mean Girl Pod. Live from the bedroom in the one and only... We are the Suite Life of Jordan and Alex this week. Bye, Zach and Cody. Hello, Suite Life of Zach... Oh, yeah. Suite Life of Alex and Jordan. We're literally in...

two mass we're at the crescent hotel in dallas and we're just living large they are the sweetest human beings ever literally we have the coolest rooms yesterday they brought us a chocolate boo with a mean girl logo on it i ate both of them because alex's lactose intolerant and it was so good they brought us a bottle of champagne i'm just living my best life here and the thing about it is that it's the the three l's you know the rules of real estate location location location which is like

this hotel and then you come inside everyone's DMing me too and they're like I freaking love that hotel and I'm like I know hotels too you know what they could do make or break a vacation we're in bed and in Dallas Texas which is why you should watch on YouTube not because we're in Dallas well because we're in Dallas but because we're in bed because we're in bed together yeah Jordan's under the covers I'm not it's cold do you sleep under the covers like how do you sleep

People sleep very intimately. Or how you sleep is so specific, I feel like. Well, so I used to... You know how we talked about serial killer traits a long time ago? Yes. One of my serial killer traits used to be I was a top sheet sleeper. So I wouldn't sleep underneath the sheet. I would sleep between the sheet and the comforter. So you know what I mean? I would sleep...

like here. And then people thought that was so weird. They're like, why would you sleep? Why would you not sleep under the sheet? But it's because I would get so hot. But then when I started getting spray tans, my tan was starting to get on my white duvet. So I had to start sleeping under the sheet to protect my duvet. So now I just sleep under the sheet, but I'm, I'm such a hot, I run so hot, unbelievably hot that I'm always sweating. Um,

Okay, so I do that serial killer's rate. I sleep on top of the sheet, and then I will... Okay, so I like to sleep in sweatsuits, ideally. That's my happiest time, is if I can be bundled up in this, and I get the room cold enough. But I sleep... I started recently sleeping on top of the top sheet, so I'd have to do less...

my sheets less, less laundry. So what I would do is I would wash the sheet and then I would just sleep on and I would, then I wouldn't have it on and I would just sleep on the regular sheet. Then I would have the sheet and I would stick it back on. So I was, it was like I had one pair of sheets and I was just flip flopping them. I totally feel that because then when I always slept on the top sheet, I never had to do the bottom sheet laundry and it was just so great. And I've narrowed it down to one pillow. And I mean, my laundry is like zero now.

Um, how often do you wash your sheets? Well, uh, okay. So in my old apartment, I didn't have laundry, so I would have to go to an actual place. It was like a cleaning press. So gross. What? You wouldn't, you'd only do it once a month.

every multiple more than once every six months like once every maybe two to three months no you would wash your sheets once every two to three months unless I had a guy sleeping in my after if I had a guy or my friend sleeping I immediately wash the sheets before and after people come you're so type a okay but it was because I didn't have a laundry facility in my apartment now that I have one in my apartment I'll probably wash them honestly like every two weeks to once a month

So when I was in college... I know, isn't it weird how there's like some things about me that are just disgusting? That's so odd. I was like, this is going to be like once every Monday and Friday, days and end and why she washes her sheets. When I was in college, I went to my dorm and my mom came down like six months in and she

She was like, how often are you washing your sheets? And I was like, I've never washed them. Like, why would I wash my sheets? She was like, you have to wash your sheets. Your skin sheds every single night and it sheds like little, like if you have a spray tan, you can see that it sheds on there. Oh yeah. And so she's like, you're just rolling around dead skin. Ever since then, this woman changed my life. I've washed my sheets in college. I would do once a month. Now I wash my sheets every Sunday. Like I ha I have to, and I'm not type a.

But I do happen to know the stat of the amount of people that wash their sheets once a month. Oh, what's the stat? Would you like to guess the percent? 30%. 12%. Why did I Google that today at breakfast? Like, today I learned that. That's so more... Is it because more people wash them more than once a month or less than once a month? This is once a week. Oh. 12% wash them. Way, like, they never wash them. I don't know anyone who washes their sheets once a week. Except my mom. Well, me. You know me. Yeah. Every Sunday. Every Sunday.

I think I'm going to start doing, well, now that I have a washer and dryer in my building, I think I'll probably wash it regularly. Also, when I lived with my boyfriend, I washed my sheets way more regularly because men are gross and they sweat. And like that grease we talked about, like, remember a long time ago, we talked about the headboard. Like, yeah. What was that episode? It was like man air or remember that, uh,

What was it? Did I tell you the story about the headboard? Yeah, we talked about it on the episode. It's like man air. Oh, boyfriend air. Boyfriend air, yeah. And it's just like the bed gets like greasy and it's just gross and it gets discolored. So I wash the sheets regularly with him. I can't, like, so today I was sitting in here journaling. I...

I don't know who I am. But I got a sanitizing wipe and I... This. Who are you? Because I wanted to lean against it. When I got on the airplane yesterday, I always... I keep sanitizer wipes with me to wipe down because you know the tray table is like the grossest thing you can possibly get on an airplane. Like that has more germs than anywhere else. So I always wipe my tray table or I won't use it. But I didn't have my wipes so I called the flight attendant. And I was like, do you have any wipes on board? And she brought them to me. And I thought...

Who am I? You know what's weird? It's kind of back to the sheets like we've talked about. I am so type A, but when it comes to cleanliness of germs, like I'm someone who I have to shower every day. I have to wash my hair every day. But when it comes to germs, I'll eat food off the floor. Like I just like I would literally touch a tray on the airplane and then like touch my mouth. I just don't care. I'm down to eat off the floor and like things that go that I can lick and things.

That's fine. It's once I hear, once someone describes to me, like spider told me in the subway, there's dead skin particles. And if you eat food, it gets stuck to the dead skin gets stuck to the food. I will never eat in a subway again. I'll stand up top and eat my eggs and then I'll go down. Like that's what, like if somebody can give me the hard details of it, I can't unsee it.

it i mean i would never eat a subway oh i used to eat my breakfast every day in the subway oh on the subway well that was breakfast time yeah it's not anymore that was breakfast time no more over oh my gosh let's talk about the one and only pink whitney which is the number one flavored vodka we are obviously in dallas right now headed to austin tomorrow by the time you're listening to this

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and head over to your local bar today. Shoot your shot. Take Pete Whitney and send your friends the meetups because we want to hang out with you guys. So how was your weekend? Okay. My weekend was fabulous. I went to the Hamptons with my intern. Did you ever finish the story about... Oh my God, yeah, you did. Sorry. I was like, I still don't know what story to tell. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Did I finish it? Sorry. My intern came over, Ames, on Friday and...

And, you know, I was just in a little bit of a daze. And she said, we're going to ask Siri to flip a coin. Heads were going to the Hamptons. Tails were, you know, just go about your merry way. Flipped it. It said heads. It was 3 o'clock. The train left at 4.17. Packed. She went home. Packed. Went to the Hamptons. Had a blast. Had the best time ever. Walked, ran, did everything.

you know, went out, did fun. Like it was so much fun. And somebody asked me, they were like, are the Hamptons like what they're built up to be? And I was like, listen, everywhere is that for somebody else. We don't all love the same places, but out there, I think people are talkative. They're nice. Like I just love everything about it. And we had a great time. I love that for you. What about you, my little mover?

Um, yeah, so I officially moved into my new apartment and I love it so much. My bed touches one wall. No, no, it doesn't touch one wall or a touch. Yeah, the back does. Yeah, but you can. I love what you said. You can walk around and make your bed on both sides. Yes. So I'll also make my bed now more. That was another reason why I never cleaned my sheets because my bed touched like three, three walls. I couldn't make it like beds that touch a wall. It's impossible to make the bed growing up. I just remember, you know, you'd rearrange your room.

And every time I'd be like, I want to know what my bedding is to all former room. My mom would be like, no, I'm not making that. Yeah. Yeah. So I love it. It's definitely not my dream apartment, but I'm very much okay with that because that's like something I've really like ingrained in my head is I want things to look forward to in life. So like I, I,

Because I used to be so hard on myself. Like, why am I not living in my dream apartment at 28? Or this or that by 28. But I'm like, I'm only 28. I have so many years to live in my dream places. You don't... I would be very worried about you or I if we were at our dream spot right now. Yeah. Because I was watching TikTok the other day and this girl was like, I got into my dream apartment. I'm like, but you're like...

Well, dream bigger. I was like, yeah, dream bigger and dream harder. Move the goalpost. But I like, I love it so much. It's, I, not to be dramatic, but like, I didn't realize how much where you live impacts your mental health. And I, I might become more of a homebody now. I could so, no, I could so see that. Because I've lived in an apartment that I hated. And I think it really, like,

You need to have a safe space, especially in New York, I think more so than any other city. But you need to have a place you can go to and feel at peace. And if it's not your apartment, then I feel like you're in constant fight or flight mode. So I'm really happy for you that you have that. Yeah. So I had a great... I'm just glad your move's over. I had a chaotic weekend, though. Is there anything you'd like to report from it? I just, like, it was one of those weekends where...

It was just filled with like guys, like ended things with guys, hung out with guys. I just like the most, um, God, it's, they're going to, people listening are going to literally hate us. That word, that word I brought up that one time. Did we ever fix it? Figure it out with a C? It was with a C, right? Charismatic? No, it wasn't it. That wasn't it. They're literally going to kill us. I've posted on the Instagram story. Cosmetic?

I don't know. Anyways. Cosmic? Cosmic. People are literally going to be like, I want to kill you guys. Okay, so I already told you this story, so it's not going to be that exciting, but I feel like I have to tell the listeners this story. Okay. So I went on a date with...

This guy last Wednesday and I was telling Alex yesterday about the pool. We had to have a debrief. I couldn't just like wait. I couldn't wait until the podcast to tell her all this. But I was telling her that I recently just started anxiety medication, which we'll probably get into like in a few more episodes because like I can't really...

tell you how it's made me feel because I just started a few days ago right but it's important to the story because the medication made me really nauseous and I went on a date the day I started it I went on a date which probably wasn't like the best idea because I was going to be drinking that night but I was like going to going into this date just feeling very sick and just like not myself and I didn't want to go but I was like you know what I'm

I'm gonna go on the date I'm gonna stick it out so I'm on the way to the date I forgot to tell you this part oh I'm walking to this date and this guy comes up to me he goes Jordan you know sometimes when people like say your name you're like have we met before or are you my friend yeah I'm like do we meet drunk one night and he was like are you going on a date yeah I was like maybe why who are you and he's just like I just I love the pod I was

You're like, are you my friend? Have we matched? Quick pause. I do think when we see people in the streets...

They forget that we also have like friends and like you and I are not afraid to meet somebody out and just completely not remember. So they'd be like Alex Jordan and you're like give me something give me something like did we take a class together? Literally. I'm just a listener and I'm like thank God or they're like remember we sat by each other for an hour on the train and I'm like mm-hmm. I think his name was Phil so Phil if you're listening you were great but I also had like my first date dress on. You know what like when I go on dates I wear like the same blue halter blue and white halter. Yes yes.

So I was like, you probably saw the dress. Like, gosh, she has her date dress on. But that just like kind of also like got me a little dazed and confused. So I was just like, oh, gosh. So on the way to the date, I sit down and, you know, like when you meet someone, you just are kind of like,

I just feel like this day. Like, I don't know why, but like when you first meet someone for me, I'm like, either this day is going to be great or I want to go. Okay. I saw him. I was like, you're so hot, but I want to go home. I was like, I feel nauseous. I'm exhausted. I move tomorrow. I don't want to be here. And I also felt like he really didn't want to be there either. Um,

That's got to be the worst part. It's so awkward when you feel like the person across from you doesn't want anything to do with you. Wait, does that... Do you think he felt your energy and then he embodied that? So I think he was like nervous and he was also... So we talked about this afterwards. Um...

Um, cause we both were like in the same boat, but he was like, I was so hot. Cause it was like 90 degrees that day. It's hard. He was a little nervous. Obviously I was a little nervous. I was stressed. I think it was just our energies were just like not in a good place. Cause it's the rule of dating in order to show up both of you being, cause if somebody, if somebody on a first date seemed not excited to be there, I would be deflated. Like, I don't know that I could recover from that, but also same for them because

But I don't feel like it's the guy or the girl's job to be more excited. You should both be equally excited. So what do you do? You just show up with the best energy you got for the first five minutes. And then if you're so let down, then you just get deflated. Honestly, that's such a good point. I feel like first dates...

are so much about like the headspace you're in it's not his job like it's not more him to be like that's both of you are supposed to be excited but I would agree if I looked across the table and I was like they don't want to be there yeah I would be like why I'm yeah because you're totally matching that person's energy so yeah so it's like maybe sometimes the first dates don't go well not because you don't like the person it's because the energies are just off that day and if he senses for five seconds that you were like nauseous but he doesn't know that he's like she doesn't want to be here like I didn't match the photos then he's deflated yeah

That's such a good point. He probably saw me and was like, she's not in a good headspace. And I saw him and I'm like, well, he doesn't want to be here. So our energies were just like bouncing back and forth. Okay. I will say this too. Or I guess I would ask, I would pose this question. Do you think if the first date starts off bad in the first 20 minutes, are you completely checked out or is there a chance you can come back from it? This situation is going to be different because I think it requires what happened. Yeah. But if that doesn't happen, do you think you can come back from it?

I this is the only time I've ever been able to come back from it. Other than that, if I don't like someone in the first 20 minutes, I've never seen that person again. I don't. Yeah, I was gonna say I don't think there's a comeback moment that happens. No, like this. This is the only situation where we've ever had a comeback. Okay, tell them why. So we're like, we're one drink into the date, maybe like for 3040 minutes. And like, I literally was like, we'll probably get one drink, maybe two, and then we'll leave.

but it's like 45 minutes into the day all of a sudden the waitress comes over and she's like hey to the guy she was like this um someone wants to send you guys shots where he doesn't want you to know who it is he wants to be anonymous and I was like well that's weird and he's like oh maybe it's the bartender like I know the bartender so don't really think anything of it we're

We take the shots that totally lifted the mood. Like we think we are so thankful for those shots. We find out that his friends also there on a date. So we send them back shots and then we're like playing that game where we're trying to figure out everyone's story in the room. Oh, it's the best game. And it was like such a vibe. And we were looking at his friend and the girl he was with. And we were like, I wonder what date they're on. And him and I are talking. And don't you think that you can tell what date someone is on based off of how they're sitting?

Yeah, but I was going to say I play this game all the time of I'll be like, their story's this, and I'll point to people around the restaurant. I'm never right. But if someone's sitting on the same side of the... Okay, so it was one of those restaurants where it's like one wall's a booth and then the other side of the table's a chair. Oh, okay, okay, okay, yes. And they were both on the booth together. Wait, I'm sorry. Is it a two-topper? Kind of, yeah. Like, you can definitely fit two people. It was kind of like...

So it's like a one topper table, but the booth's so big and their tables are so spread out where you could easily fit like two people on the booth and one person on the chair across. It wasn't weird.

No, not at all. Okay. The two were on the same side. Yeah. But don't you feel like if people are on the same side of the booth, they know each other? Well, it's not a first date. So that's what I said. I was like, okay, well, they're both on the same side of the booth. So I feel like this is a second or third date. And he was like, this is the first date. I was going to say, or it's a really good first date and they're both touchy feely. So after I said that, he was like, so you wouldn't sit on the same side of the booth of a guy on a first date? And I was like...

I mean, it's pretty intimate. And he was like, so you don't want to sit by me. It was like so smooth how he did it. Nice. So I like go to the other side. I sit next to him. The day ends up being so much fun. We go get pizza afterwards. And then I went home because I had to move literally the next day. But it's...

it was one of those dates where it's like flipped yeah like you had you had an actual flip yeah so the next day comes around I didn't really know much of it like if he was gonna see me again or not because you know sometimes when dates go I was like you know when someone you know I don't think so sometimes when dates go super late you don't know like what the guy's intentions are like we didn't do anything but

I still, my head was like, maybe he's just looking to have a good time. But he texted me the next day. He was like, can I see you again? Blah, blah, blah. Didn't really think much of it. But this is where it gets so weird. So...

Sunday rolls around and my two friends are like do you want to go on a walk on the on the west side highway and I originally my head was like no because I just moved I went to the Yankees game the day before I was exhausted but I was like you know what I'm gonna do it so ladies and gentlemen you saw this one coming from a mile away let's talk about no days wasted because Jordan and I are in Dallas right now moving to Austin and if there's anything we don't have it's to waste a day

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So we stop at this bar that none of us have ever been to before. We're on the rooftop drinking. Ten minutes go by and these two guys walk in. And...

I literally had a heart attack. I was literally like, and my friend was like, are you good? And I was like, no, no, no, no, I'm not. Well, I was like, I am, but I was like, I thought I just saw somebody that I know. And she's like, what guys would you know? She was like, okay, whatever. I look at him again and I was like, I literally go, you guys. Ha!

That is blah, blah, blah. Who I went on a date with on Wednesday and they're like, are you sure? And I showed him his hinge pictures. They were like, that is 99.9% like percent him. Yeah. I wasn't sure because he had shaved and guys are like two different human beings. Oh, they totally are. And I...

was mortified because I had no makeup on. My hair was in like a top knot. We had walked four miles in 90 degree weather. I was sweating, wearing shitty workout clothes. Like I wasn't wearing like a cute two piece. It was like, it was like this, like what I have on today. It's not like the cute I'm working out set. It's like the, it's

It's like, I'm working out. No, I'm sweating set. There are two types of workout sets. And one of them is like adorable. And you're like, you have your make, like you have the makeup on and you're like, I'm going to go on a five second walk and then FaceTime you. And then there's like the, no, no bitch, I'm sweating. Yeah. I don't want to see you. And I was so wetting. I was stuck to the seat. It was so gross.

I'm stuck in the seat. Yeah. So I put my sunglasses on and I'm just like, please don't notice me. Not because I didn't want to see him. I did want to see him. It was because I felt so uncomfortable by how I looked. It was such a stupid. Yeah, you wanted to see him, but you were like, I'm just not right now. It's a four mile walk. Yeah. I was like, we've only gone on one date. You don't, I don't want you to see me in this condition yet. This is like.

two months in type of seeing someone. And you're blindsided. Like you weren't supposed to see. No. It wasn't scheduled. Exactly. So like he sees me. He starts approaching me and I'm like, oh, that's definitely him. He's coming over. So he comes over with his friend. He says hi. And this man has like the most like

I don't even know how to, like, describe it. I don't want to say confidence because he's confident, but it's, like, just, like, cool, like, chill confidence I've ever seen in a person. He just, like, comes over, sits down, and he just decides to, like, hang out with us. Wait, you were there with your friends. There's three of you? Mm-hmm. How many extra seats are at the table? Oh, there was none. So we were on the boot. We were on the bar. Okay.

And they're across the... When I say across, I mean like literally this far. At a table that's like across the bar. And they pull up chairs. He pulled up chairs to come sit by you and your friends? Yeah. To talk to you guys? Yeah. Did he introduce himself? Oh my God, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, hi, I'm blah, blah, blah. I love him for that. That is like...

It's just so like why be awkward and avoid it instead he just like went right in and was like hey I'm so-and-so. Yeah because I thought maybe he would say hi and then walk away which I didn't want him to I wanted him to stay because I like really enjoyed his his company when we went on that date but yeah he just like sat down and just like was like I'm gonna join you guys. We were there for eight hours. My friend um my other friend came eventually to Madeline and

so there was me and my three friends these two guys we hung out there from like 1 to 8 p.m and did he how was he it was so much fun like we literally all just like sat in a circle at the bar we're like playing like drinking games talking at one point he was like oh I shouldn't drink anymore I have to go home and work and in my head I was like oh that sucks I really want to keep hanging out with you next thing you know he's like at the bar he's like who wants shots like

You're like, I like this guy. It was so much fun. Then we went to another bar and we like drank till midnight. But the whole point of this story is like I've never had a situation where I

I've ran into somebody I am dating or gone sorry gone I got went on one date with him but like any guy that I I've never even ran into a guy that I like before out like with unplanned like that's never happened to me really and we both were like I can't believe we ran into each other that was his first time going to that bar my first time going to that bar he had just gotten done with the like a four or three or three to five mile run and the only reason why they stopped was because his friend was like I need to stop and get like something to drink because I'm gonna die and

it was all unplanned this whole day was unplanned it's like the it was like the universe put us together i think that okay i think though that that never happens for no reason yeah you know what i mean like i think it's so cool i'm thinking about all the times it's been happening to me more in 2023 than it ever has before but i'll run into people or i'll meet people kismic kismic that's the word kismic it's with a k it's with a k isn't it i'm gonna google it is that why it throws us off

And read us the definition. Do you see this crane? Did you see the crane that fell in New York? Kismet. Today? No. It fell in the street. Kismet. Oh, maybe. Kismet. Noun. Destiny, fate. What chance did I stand against kismet? Is it C or K? K. So it means like, so in a sentence, it must have been kismet that brought the bride and groom together a year ago. So it means like fate or destiny. Mm-hmm.

Not saying that this was for us, but like I was shocked. But it's a form of it. Yes. Because not only did that happen, we also used to go to the same gym. I didn't know this. I found this out after we went on our date. He told me. But I'm like, what in the world? I'm like,

Are you my soulmate? I'm just kidding. Are you my soulmate? Did I marry you? But it was just like, I'm like, I've never had the universe throw somebody in my face this much. It's just like, it's like kind of like messing with my head. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think, I think it's real. Like I used to not buy into any of that, but, but in turn names, for example, she came into my life at the like perfect time when I needed somebody kind of. And it was like that. And what's been happening to me lately is I'll see somebody and

And I'll be like, that's really weird. Like Sammy, the girl from Alice and Olivia. When I met her, I walked off and I was like, weirdest thing, but I just kind of feel like I was supposed to meet her. And it's like...

I think if you don't think that stuff's real, not that stuff's real, but if you don't really buy into that, then you don't notice it and you don't like let it be true. Like I think you get in, you have like dense energy towards it. Yeah. But if you're just like, yeah, that was kind of cool. Then I think it like can keep happening. It's, it's like the invisible string theory. Yes. We're all, yes. I love that. But then if you like, if you ever think about specific people that you've met,

like the people i have like monumental like impacts in your life it's like the domino effect i even think about like my five-year relationship how like we met or even like the guy i used to see in dallas like i had the worst travel experience of my life like the universe was like trying to force me not to go see him that day do you remember that i eventually got there but it was like the worst travel experience of my life it's like the universe is always like

kind of showing you how eat like I don't know if you think about how you meet everyone there's kind of a story behind all of it yeah I'm trying to think how you meet people even like you and I like what are the odds that you and I would start a barstool around the same time and like even like the story of how mean girl pod started like

It's just like if you really think about it, it's a perfect domino effect. Even before I knew you, I started following you on Instagram or on TikTok. So I was like, oh my God, this girl's living in a hotel. This is so cool. And then I saw you on the street the day I interviewed. You didn't see me. Oh, I was like, we did? Yeah, I never told you that. No. Yeah, you were walking to the office. You drew blue hair at the time, I think still. Did you still have your blue hair? Yeah. And you were walking towards the barstool office. I was walking out of it.

And I had recently just heard following you because I thought it was so fascinating that you're living in hotels. It was fascinating. And I remember like just walking past you at like Starbucks in your hand and you're on the phone. And I was just like, who would have thought like when I walked past you that we'd be doing this one day? No kidding. It was just weird. It's really weird. You know, speaking of like, like thinking of what you're going to be doing one day or like how you were talking about like your dream apartment or something.

What I've been thinking about lately, I've also just been like, I don't think about a lot of things lately or I think about everything lately. I don't know. I don't really, I don't even know. But I think like I've been thinking I used to go day by day. Now I divide my days in twos and I just do the beginning of the day and then at the end of the day. But I was like, I'm so excited to see in six months like where the wind blows us. Like I think we both have so much in the up in the air right now.

And it's like, do you ever wonder if you could just see six months down the road? Would you want to see it? Or you just want to go like day by day? Because I think I'm at the first point in my life right now where I would like to see it. Oh, really? I've never wanted to know. But I would like to know. I think I'm in the first part of my life or the first time in my life where I don't want to know. You typically want to know? Well, I'm usually such a control freak.

So I'm like, I want to know what's going to happen six months online. Not from like more of just like from a work standpoint. Like where will the podcast be? Where will I be living? Like that type of stuff. Just to know. Yeah. Just to like put yourself at ease. Like, well, I do end up here. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like, I don't know. It's so fun to think about just like fate and destiny and how... I don't know. I've just...

I've never I've never been somebody who's like ran I don't even run into my friends you've always said you don't like see people nope I've never ran into an ex before besides the national thing but that was I mean that was different um but like I don't run into my exes I don't run into boy like even if I like talk to a boy or have gone on a date with a boy I've never seen them again it's it's so weird it's like when I don't people in my life like they're in my life when I like

have intention to see them but then it's like they don't exist if i don't have intention to see them i could be in madrid and i'd be like oh my god it's my neighbor yeah no you that yeah you're so right you are that person who always runs into people i in the hamptons all i did was run in to people my dad's the same way every time we would go on a trip as a family when we were younger he'd run into somebody you know what else you know what else i just thought about in the

When we got there, I got food poisoning, I think from the calamari. And I was like, fine, right? Like I had done my full makeup and I had like my dress on and I was going to go out on Friday night. And I was like, I was like, I got to like pee. And I went in the bathroom and like when I was in there, it just like, you know how food poisoning just hits you out of nowhere. So I got really hot and started sweating like to the point of like, like sweat was dripping in my mouth and like my makeup started running and I was like throwing up and I couldn't even talk. So I texted Anne-Marie and I was like, I need you.

And she like came in there and she was like, what the fuck happened to you? And I was like, in 10 seconds, it just hit me like freight train. I was like, I can't move. And she goes, what do you need? And I said, a change of clothes. You put my hair up. She brought me, took my dress off, put me in a T-shirt, plopped my hair up. And then she said, what do you want me to do? I said, leave. Like, I want you guys to go out and like leave me in here for the rest of the night. She said, Casey got up right then. And they went outside, like called their Uber, sat outside and just like, let me be sick in the hotel room.

And the next day I was like, she was like, I, I don't feel bad. Right. And I was like, no, all I wanted from the bottom of my heart was to be sick alone and miserable alone. And like you left that instance. And she was like, it's so funny because some people really want you to like stay there and like make sure you're okay. But like, what can you do in that moment? And like when I'm sick, I'm,

I want you to literally remove yourself immediately. And I was like, I told, I texted her and I was like, you did. Thank you. Like that was so when someone's sick, it's like GTFO out of the room. Oh my God. If I'm like, that's why I don't understand when guys are sick. They're like, I'm sick. Would take care of me. It's like, when I'm sick, everyone leave.

leave now yeah now if I have like a fever and I'm feeling okayish I need to be coddled like a four-year-old child and I and I can't move and my body aches and it's but when I'm throwing up I'm throwing up by myself oh right whenever I think about throwing up I just think about Oklahoma because those are the only times I throw up is when I'm in Oklahoma okay that that reminds me of Oklahoma my first time I ever drank was sophomore year of high school

And I was like at my friend's house, but in the night she was having a party because her parents were gone. Have you heard McCormick's vodka? Yeah. Okay. So I was taking shots of that and I was taking tallies. And I remember thinking like how cool I was because I didn't feel shots. And I was like, I can take as many or more than all the boys. So I took like 13 McCormick. Then I had the tallies and me and my friend were like, we don't feel alcohol. Then, you know, alcohol hits you. So,

So it goes like black, right? And then I don't remember anything, but I woke up next to my mom in bed. Like she was sleeping with me in my high school bedroom. And I looked over to the side and I had thrown up everywhere. And I was like... So then she woke me up the next morning, 6 a.m. And made me clean the whole house. And that was my little... She was like, you don't get to be... Oh, you're not hungover today, honey. I had to clean everything. I know. That...

Sounds like my biggest nightmare. The 6 a.m. wake up. My parents would do that to me if I went out and they could tell, but I told them I didn't. 6 a.m. It's not going to clean itself. I think only once in my life I've woken up and been like, how did I get here? When is it? Oh, it was in New York. I woke up. This is going to sound so bad, but I woke up naked.

next to somebody oh no but it was it was consensual he was somebody that i was i'd make that very clear i consented but i just woke up and i was like what the fuck how do you well i was like how do we both like it was like we were planning on going back together that night but i was like how did we get here and why am i naked i feel like you like

don't ever forget or like not, not know. Wow. That's like, that was groundbreaking. I said, forget or not know novel word usage. But yeah, yeah. That's like, so you rolled over and you're like, and I had my, I had not washed my face. I was just like, get the, I was just like, why did I do this to myself? Speaking of not, have you ever 4am skincare? Yeah. They were at the Hannah Eve's event. I didn't. So then I was reading about their branding.

That was genius for the girl who likes to go out but still wash their face at 4 a.m. Yeah. I was like, that's everyone. That is us in a nutshell. I was like, everyone still wants to wash their face. Like, the worst morning, no matter, even if you're not hungover or not, like, even when I was sick, when you wake up the next morning and you haven't taken off your makeup,

It's like almost the worst day ever. The start to the worst day ever. If you can get that makeup off, you got a chance. Someone... There was actually a guy the other day. He was like...

because I'd stayed out till I don't know maybe like 3 30 with him and he was like do you do that often and my initial response was like no I never do and then I literally took a step back and I was like because I used to have a problem where I would like try to be perfect for guys okay and then I started to realize like I have to show them my true self and if they don't if they don't like accept me they are not my person and I also need to stop focusing on them liking me and I need to focus more on me liking them so it was like

Oh my God. I just lied to you. No, I do that actually a lot. I go a lot and I like to stay out till 3am. I think that's honestly like good for you to realize that. I know. Cause I just like got to the point where I was like, okay, no, that is me. And I'm,

Because I think one of the reasons why I always dread relationships is because I become this perfect person where I can't be myself. But if I am myself and show the person that I'm dating who I am and they accept me, I don't have to pretend to be this perfect person. So I was like, I can't.

lie to this person and then all of a sudden they start dating me and they're like wait why do you go out all the time or you're trying to not go out all the time then it starts coming out like other yeah the ooze effect yeah you always think you wrap yourself in saran wrap when you try to be somebody else and then it starts like that reminds me okay so this is what i thought about so amory came with me and her roommate silsby came with us that's such a pretty name silsy still and they call her sils cute right is that unadorable i love that she's

beautiful by the way and they're so okay so i didn't have like lately and we're gonna talk about this in a second i just have been just like chilling watching a lot and i've been loving it but when we were in the hampton watching life just watching life i'm just sitting here like i'm watching a movie don't have a lot to say but we i was sitting on the bed watching them get ready and it was just these two girls being like unapologetically themselves

And things would come out of their mouth and I would just kind of chuckle. Like I was just listening, watching them the whole entire time. And I was like, I don't think still till this day. I struggle with that being like, and you, you and I think we used to talk about this 100% are very true self. I think we used to suppress it a lot because I'm exploring as to why that was, but it's like,

Can you not just be, and like, it doesn't matter. I think you and I change a little bit of who we are so they'll receive it better to make the receiver a little bit more comfortable. Yeah. And it's like, or we could just be exactly who we want it to be respectfully, like truly who we want to be. And then who cares how they take it? Yeah. I feel like we conformed other people's energy to like make them feel more comfortable.

These and these two weren't they didn't care if I was comfortable. I was cracking up internally They didn't care what I thought one bit and I thought I don't think I would have this same energy roles reversed I think I would be like kind of wondering what I I don't know like I'm older I don't know and they just didn't care and I and I watched them the whole time They didn't care at all and I was like, I love that. Oh my god. There's only like a couple people that

that I feel like I can be my true self with I mean I feel like I can be my true self around you all the time well you and I are built on that yeah which is why it's so refreshing but it's I've been working on that a lot because even when we were talking about that event like last week I was like I just don't want to go like I'm just trying to be more myself where I'm like I don't want to do that correct and it's not like so why do it or I'm not even or like

Yeah. Honestly, honestly, like I even feel like with roles and there's something just like I'm that's not I'm not going to do that. No, I don't want to. And then it's kind of like you just even when we're with people, too, it's like I don't really want to sit and do this. Yeah, I've been honestly, I feel like my whole personality right now is dating. But like that's something that's taught me, too, is like I am really trying to show my like authentic self. And it's so refreshing because I'm like, you know what?

I do swear. Or you know what? I do like to stay up till 3am or you know what? I do like to get ready for two hours. Like I'm not trying to be like, I get ready like really fast. Or like, I even was saying, I was telling this guy that I like flying Delta and you like flying American because like, I want the points. I like being upgraded. And like,

six months ago I've been like no I'll just like fly economy whatever but I was like no you know what I do want to be a bougie but like I'm just so much more okay being like no this is me and if you can't accept it I don't really care anymore I can't fake not being me anymore well and most people would rather accept that like I personally as like a receiver you can always tell a little bit that they're not being like them full self their full selves yeah but it's taken me I don't know what it is this year

But just I think feeling it inside and just like watching. And I think you get to a point where you're just like, that wasn't fully me. Yeah. Can I just I'm sorry. One second. I don't care anymore because I'm exhausted. And it has nothing to do with the other person. Yeah. Like, do you ever find yourself if you go negative about someone and then being like, stop? What what am I being negative about? She's being X, Y, Z.

Okay, I used to do, this is what I told the girls in the Hamptons. I used to go to the pool and see people in like their bathing suits and hoop earrings. And I'd be like, why would they like get, I'd be like, oh, why would they like get dressed up for the pool? Okay, fast forward. I'd like love dressing up and would love putting on jewelry for the pool. Okay, I was like, what was my thought process back then? Probably someone who wished they could be like, I would love to get ready and look cute for the pool.

But it's like if you look at why you're being negative instead of like moving away from it, like get closer to it and then be like, why are you doing it? It has something to do with you. Yeah. I would do that. People like be unapologetically themselves. I would be like, huh? And then it's like they're they don't they don't give a fuck what you think because they're just being them. No, we were just talking about this yesterday, how like there's not that many people in this world who can say they are their true authentic self.

And the people who can, I'm so envious, envious of like, I just love that person who knows who they are. And like, also there's nothing more sexier than guy or girl who just like knows who they are and is just secure in that. And they show up with that energy. Yeah. And you can just tell. And, and you know what too, a lot of times I feel like that person's very okay with

Just walking up like they don't really care. It's not F you at all. No, it's this welcoming, warm. I'm OK being me and you all when someone's more themselves, I think it gives everyone else permission to do the same. Yeah. And I'm like, there's something so calm about it. Yeah. I saw this TikTok the other day where it was like these these girls were like,

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Go to ShadyRays.com slash Tangle Free and use code MEANGIRL. It's being the main character is so stressful because it's like you're always out there trying to be like the best of the best and you're kind of being bitchy because like you want all the attention and this or that and it's like, you know what? Maybe I don't want to be the main character. Maybe being the main character for me is just like sitting back and just like being myself but like...

behind like everyone else because I don't want to be out there like giving everyone all my energy all the time well and here's what I think about that too I think that's fine I I don't like the term main character I don't either because I think it means like you're putting on a performance there are some people who are naturally loud sometimes I'm like that I'm so loud and there are some times where I'll go out and I am a wrecking ball I'm talking to everybody and and the

some people could be like, that is kind of me. That's just me to a corp. And then there are times where I go out and I'm like, I'm sitting in the corner and I don't know, you never know which one you're going to get. But I feel like when we pinpoint like main character energy, it's like you're trying to put on like the performance as opposed to just like, you might have a night where you're just talking to everyone. Yeah. Like I went to the Yankees game over the weekend and I was meeting all the, I went with a friend and like I met all their friends and

I was just like not in the mood to put on this performance to make sure everyone loved me and I was very nice I met everyone I was talkative to everyone but I like definitely I definitely most situations being like they probably fucking loved me like I was so great but I I leave exhausted because I'm giving all these people all my energy to be like the best version of myself so they all like me but I remember being at the game and I was like

I'm just going to be like me. Yeah. Take it or leave it. And they, they probably like, like me, but they're not, I definitely didn't leave being like, that was my best performance ever, but I left with a lot more energy and I was just, it was just like a weird feeling I've never felt, but it was so nice not to feel like I was putting on a performance that,

To like please everyone around me. Yeah, like protect yourself. Yeah. And okay, think about this. It's like the time when you didn't go to the thing last Monday. Same with the friends you met at the Yankees game. When you leave. Okay, whether they liked you or not, did it matter? No. 20 minutes later? No. No. Because they're not my friends. There is a fine line, I will say this, between...

Being kind and introducing the people you're around. Yeah. But past that, we do not need some grand gesture moment. Like the person you saw at the bar on Sunday that you were referencing who came over, introduced himself, the guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not main character. No. That was confident. I'll sit with you guys and everyone will feel comfortable. Yeah. A lot of times too, I don't think big groups feel comfortable around main character energy. No. Because it doesn't allow everyone else to like have a say. So it's too overpowering. Mm-hmm.

Do you know what I mean? Oh, a thousand percent. The definition of like main character. I love though. I don't think main character and outgoing, they're not synonymous to me at all. No. They're very different. I completely agree. Yeah. I don't know. I'm just like really in that area of just trying to be more me and do me. Oh yeah. I feel like we both are though. I feel like every time we come together,

It's like you're like I didn't go to the event And I'm like and I just sat there silently Yeah And it's like we're just doing It's so funny because I was thinking about us last summer And we were so different than we are this summer But it's like summers are always so important to you and I Because for some reason they just Like remember summer last year was pivotal for us Yeah And then summer this year is like the We're like reorganizing kind of Yeah Like the restructure summer I'm having to fuck around or find out summer Yeah and it's kind of like And I feel like it's very Yeah

This summer I feel like is more prep work for...

long-term yeah which is really good like I feel that I like it no I do too it's yeah so much has changed yeah I feel like to always like look on social media and always be like oh I wish I was invited to that event or I wish I could go to or or not I wish I it was it's more like oh I'm jealous I would like I wish I could go to that or I'm jealous that they got to go to that but then I sit back and I'm like Jordan would you actually want to go to that event it's like no I

And I just like, I'm like, why? And I know it's just like a lesson. I'm constantly like teaching myself. Yeah. Yeah. I've been your opposite where I haven't scrolled. I actually have not scrolled Instagram since I got off of it. Like the two days after my birthday. I'm so jealous. I, and it's so funny. The world that doesn't exist when you're not on there.

Like it's been, and that'll change, right? There'll be, you know, one week I'll get on here. But guess what? My phone usage is 14 hours a day. Yeah. You know, it ebbs and flows. I'm just in that space right now. But I have been trying to say yes to events that you learn something from, like the Hannah Eve event where you get to listen to people. Yeah, that was amazing. And I go to them and I leave and I feel so fulfilled from like a,

like a, this is what's out there type world. And I've, I've just been like silently loving all of that. Yeah. But not, I can't scroll that darn app right now. I would give anything to, to not scroll. That's it's, it's tough working in social media because some days you just want to break, but it's kind of like owning your own business where it's like, you could take a break, but if you take that break, you're losing like a week's worth of revenue.

Yeah. I'm still posting. Yeah. Yeah. Scrolling. No, I mean, I'm not saying that directly towards you, but there's sometimes where I mean, like I want to like delete it all. Oh,

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, can't do that. It'd be like you starting up a business that's really successful and then you just one day be like, ah, throwing that in the trash. Or like, oh, I'm just not going to work. I'm not going to run the business for a week. Well, all your customers will stop coming to you. Right. No, no. That I don't think would be – I don't think we have – I do think we have the option to log out for a week. Not delete, but I think – because I think it breeds –

If you sustain it too long... Like, I was getting to a place where I was like, it will be very good for me. If I don't, everything's just going to get worse. Yeah. So I took the step back, which I would do any day of the week again. But I do think...

I think we reserve the right on social media to have a week of like, I have to. Yeah. And then other than that, yeah, no, we're not deleting the apps ever. Like you just want, there's some days where I'm like, watch this. I'll just delete the whole account. And it's like, you won't, you never want, like, you're not going to start. You're not going to go get your law degree and then be like, check this out. Firm deleted. That's what I mean. It's like starting your own business and being like, ah, psych, we're done. It's all your customers are literally like, but what about, what about my services? You still owe me. Yeah. And it's like, it's our job to protect ourselves. Yep.

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Okay, so I did know that, but I heard that if you Botox your armpits to stop sweating, those sweat glands will, like, that sweat will come out more in other places. Okay, I figured. You're oozing everywhere else, right? Okay, it just didn't seem like it'd be healthy. How many holes are in a golf ball? How many little divots? 10,000. Whoa. Whoa.

This sweet old man beside me at breakfast today kept coughing and I would like would glance over at him. And then he looked at me. He said, do you know how many little divots are in a golf ball? And I was like, 150, 366. Oh, wow. 10,000 is an astronomical amount. Do you know what I mean? Like the ball with the little, you have, I swear you must. I think you give off this energy of like everyone, like people can talk to me.

I do or I don't. It's one or the other. I feel like you always have these stories. This person said this to you. I'm like, nobody unsolicitedly speaks to me. It's funny because if someone speaks to me, they will tell me their whole life story, but it's never unsolicited. It's like the lady at the checkout. The lady doing my... Someone where you're like,

Interacting with them. Interacting with them. But, like, no, I never have people randomly speak to me. Not like a cold call out in the restaurant beside you. No, I think I totally give off, like, the do not talk to me energy. You're on do not disturb. I'm on, like, you can swipe up and you don't need a passcode. No, that's so true. Oh, my God, that's literally so true. People, I've talked to so many people recently. But I do think I'm also in this, like, very just, like, I'll respond to you right now. Yeah. Totally. I also think blondes give off more of a, like,

lighter energy mingle approachable energy and i do think brunettes they don't oh my god do blondes give off more of a talk to me vibe i think so because like even when you when you always say stuff like um like you always are like people on the planes are like oh my god love the pod if like people don't say it's me they just like stare at me and i'm like i know you know but you're not gonna say anything because i think they look at me and they're like she doesn't want to talk to me what you

Yeah, I give off, I feel like I give off, people have said that I give off a very unapproachable vibe. I can make a person talk to me. Like I can be like, that person will come talk to me. It's the weirdest thing. Yeah, I wonder if blondes are more approachable. I know guys I think think blondes are more approachable. Statistically, not statistically, but like stereotypically, you would think we wouldn't be. If you think of like a blonde, like a dumb blonde stereotype. But then I do think when you think of,

Am I going to go up to her? Yeah, I do think they do kind of have a more approachable vibe. Why? I mean, you look like someone that I would if I had to ask someone for help, I would go up to somebody asked me for help the other day in New York.

Ask me how to call a cab and where would be the best spot. And I said, I do know where. And I will point you in that direction. Yeah, I'm curious. I would like to know the statistics on that. It is funny. You are on Do Not Disturb. And I am on, already swiped up with no passcode. I am on Do Not Disturb. I think New York has turned me into Do Not Disturb. And I think it's turned me into, I don't know.

Oh, I don't know. But it's funny. I think I see it above our heads right now. Yeah, that's actually like no password. I'll talk to you. Yeah. You don't even need it. It's like, God, what a world. Okay. My other question was, do you know what animal can't look up and see the sky? Oh, I had no idea. A fish? Pigs. Really? Their necks don't bend that way. Isn't that funny? Have they ever seen the sky? Apparently not. Or stars. And they're missing a lot. Oh, that's really sad. I know. I know.

Oh, I know. I had no idea. Oh, there's an animal that can't jump. Elephant. That makes sense. And polar bears. It said they were all left handed, but I Googled it and it said that's a myth. They use both paws evenly. Ah, um, do we have any fun listener questions? Okay. Listener question time. The listener question this week is how do you know when you've outgrown friendships and it's time to end it? I think that's very easy. Was that you and I? No, I was just talking to my friend about that. Um,

Okay, so I feel like your upper 20s are such pivotal years for ending friendships. Because it's kind of like that time when you are realizing that some people from high school and college probably were never good friends to you. And you're just... I just feel like a lot of people struggle with friendships the most at this time because they're losing friends. But it's also a really hard time to make friends because you're getting older and...

So I don't know. I just feel like it's something that a lot of people struggle with. I think when it comes to friendships, people look for permission to move away from people. And I don't think you need to say, this friend doesn't serve me anymore. They don't make me feel good about myself anymore. I have to end my friendship with them. You don't have to end your friendship with them. You should consciously move away from them. So you should say, they don't make me...

When you're in your younger 20s, you want social friends. You're going out with them. Nobody really has to push you or make you a better person, hold you accountable. But I think the older you get, the more you say, I want friends around me that make me a better person. They make me want to work harder or whatever your values are, they're aligned with that and they push you. They're not negative. I think you look for those people, but I don't think it has to be, I need to send her a text and have a conversation with her and let her know that it's over. Because if you start to just distance yourself...

Then I think if she's texting you, like you don't have time for me anymore. Just be like, I'm really busy. Yeah. Hit her negative with the positive and then just be like, and you know, I love you and I'll always love you and always send her love. But you just move on and you find friends that serve you more. Yeah. I, my therapist always tells me if you aren't losing friends, you're not, you're not growing. Um,

Um, but yeah, I think it can be as simple as, I mean, I think you can have conversations with friends and end their friendship if it's like very toxic or if you like need them out of your life. But I think a lot of people just drift away. Also, I'm at the point in my age where if someone's not bringing me value, I don't need them in my life. Like life is so busy and we always talk about this, but I'm so okay having like four or five very close friends versus like 10 social friends. Yeah.

Yes, at this point, I don't look for somebody fun to go out with. No. That's nice, but I would rather when they FaceTime me, I would never answer. But if they did FaceTime me, I would want the feeling to be not, here goes the gossip fest. Yeah. It's like...

I bet she's got something funny and you answer and she's like, okay, so guess what I just read? Or like, you're never going to believe what I'm looking at. Or she's telling you something about herself where she's like, I achieved my goal. And she knew to call you and you're like, I'm so effing proud of you. Yeah. Like when their name pops up on your phone, what's the feeling you get? Yeah. Like I don't go out with 10 girls. I go out with like,

two girls and we literally usually start the night like having very meaningful conversation at the bar drinking and then we just let's see where the night leads like I don't know the last time I went out with a massive group of girls when it was genuinely fun well and I think too like

I think we should preface this because I know you'll agree with me here. When we say we don't want social friends, we're both very social. Yeah. But the way you're able to be social with someone, like I want a friend that's meaningful but also very social and when she goes out, she kind of like goes out the same way I do. Like you're on the same page and it's like you can talk to people or not and it's like that vibe very much aligns but we don't just want like just a solely social. Yeah, social friends are people who just like...

like coexist or like fill voids when you feel lonely. Yes. Yeah. You're like let's go out. Yeah. Let's go up or we're not actually going to talk or like have meaningful conversation. We're just going to like

be in each other's lives so we aren't feeling like we're alone that day. Yes. And those are great. That's not first circle friends. No. First circle friends add value. And if not, then... Or they're supportive. Yeah. They're unapologetically loving. Like, there's a space for everyone. But I think if they bring you down in any sense, you just say, I love you, girl, but I'm going to be over here. I want you to eat, but not at my table. Yeah. I also think, too, people are, like, wondering when it's time to move on from friends. It's like...

what we talked about last episode like how do they make you feel when they ask you to hang out do you feel exhausted or like oh man or are you like yes they are going to bring me energy and value like i'm so excited to hang out them like there's some people not so much anymore but i remember going out them and i'm looking around for guys the entire time like how can i be distracted like how can i like entertain myself and then now when i go with my friends

I'm just like focus on them because like I enjoy their company. Yeah. And I, and I love if you have, let's say you have happened to have a negative friend. Also, I'll say this. You're never questioning. There's, I've had friends that I've never one time question. Do I need to step back from them? So it's usually pretty obvious if you're wondering, okay, you might need to. Yeah. And you usually have to learn the lesson like five times.

You're like, I said I wasn't going to do it and I didn't and all she did was gossip. But I'm rereading Think Like a Monk for the third time and I read it today, the three to one ratio. So if you've got the one negative friend, you have to have three positives with you or like you can't hang out with them. And I love that because-

I haven't been around like a really negative person in a long time, but I remember when I used to be a man, I'd leave and I'd be like, we just swam uphill. I mean, like that was hard. Yeah. So I do think, yeah, I think the answer is if they're not providing you value and you leave and you have an icky feeling, don't, you don't have to put the hard, uh,

pressure on yourself if I don't send them the text that we're not friends anymore I have to keep hanging out with them distance yourself yeah give yourself permission but nobody needs to give you the permission to end a friendship you you know and a friend shouldn't exhaust you if you feel exhausted when someone texts you or calls you or like you hang out them that is a sign that you need to start moving on yes like you need people who bring you energy and value into your life same with romantic partners like that's like what I've learned the most this year it's like if I ever am just like

oh, I can't answer this text. It's too exhausting. It's like, maybe I should rethink this relationship. Names popping up. Phones are bad in a lot of ways, but when somebody's name pops up on your phone, the way it makes you feel can tell you everything about that person and how you feel towards them. Especially when they call you. It's like, if you get anxious that someone's calling you, you're like, that's not good. But if you're like,

I might answer this because this will be fun. You're like, yeah, I can't wait to answer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or the friend where you're like, I'll put this on speaker. She'll talk to both of us. Yeah. That's so happy. Oh, yeah. That was a good question. That was. All right. Well...

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