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I have a legit rule for myself. I would rather be alone than ever settle. So many people, the more and more I really think about it, being at our age now, I'm like, oh wow, people are afraid to break up. They'll just walk right through a red flag because they don't want to be alone. Do you think that like, because like we're at an age where people start getting engaged. So when people see their friends getting engaged, they, they just like marry their boyfriend. Yeah. Who's like,

supposed to just be their boyfriend, not their husband. You're right. There's such a big difference between the boyfriend guy and the guy you can marry. And they're two totally different things. And I think they're two totally different feelings. The boyfriend we're all really familiar with, but the husband one doesn't come all the time. But like, you know it without a shadow of a doubt, I think.

Welcome back to another episode of Mean Girl Pod. We're going to yell today. Make sure you can hear us. There's a freaking sledgehammer in the background. I don't think they can hear it. I mean, there's a, I don't know. I have no idea. I hope not. How about that? Um, how are you? I'm okay. How's the head and the neck? Um, so this Friday we're going to Rough and Rowdy and our dear darling coworker, Grace O'Malley is fighting in it and she needed somebody to spar. Okay.

And I was like, I'll do it. That'll be me. And she beat the shit out of you. She will. I was like, it's really hard to hit somebody that, you know, and she was like, same.

And then we got in there and she gave me right off the bat one of the face. And then we were off and it was great. But that's how it should go. Yeah. I'm a chicken. So I was glad she like broke the seal and then we were off. It was awesome. But my neck is like, did you see it? It like fully retracted and bounced back like a bobblehead. No, it's so I had a hard time watching you spar people I didn't even know.

But when I watched you and Grace spar, since I know both of you guys, it was very disturbing to see two girls that I know and love hit each other. And I don't enjoy it. So when I saw her hit your neck, I was like, I'm done. Right? I was like...

It's crazy to think that we like sign up for it. I know you guys are crazy. I know. I'm real. I'm so proud of her though, because we talked about this back in the day, but like you cry, you like feel all these feelings. And so she's going through that process right now. And Friday is going to be incredible. And I'm so excited that we're going because it's the best. Yeah. Well, you're not the only person who got hit today. Oh boy. Well, who hit you? A car? Did a car hit you? We can only hope. No.

Alex! A pigeon hit me in the eye! You brat! You should probably go to the, like, to, like, city MD. It's so gross. Also, no, it fucking didn't because you would not be okay. I'm not lying! A pigeon did not hit your eye. Yes, it did, and immediately I'm like, I probably have a disease and I need to go to the doctor. Which eye? This eye. How is it okay? It hit my eyelash.

It just didn't. Are you calling me a liar? It's a Jordan story. It's a Jordan fact. It's a...

It probably flew by you quickly. Near her. And somehow it turned into, this is a Jordan story, you're right. A pigeon hit me. No! I was walking and I hit one with my hand and then the other hit my eye. So there's two now. No, there's two pigeons now. A pigeon did not hit your eye. I hate it here right now. It did. This is crazy. I got hit today. I almost didn't even come watch you box because I almost went to the doctor. It took you like, that's the first thing you say when I see you. That's the first thing you

You say. You're like, I got hit by a pigeon. I didn't want to take away your moment. In the eye. I got hit by a pigeon in the eye. I didn't want to take away your moment when I saw you, so I go, I'll tell her once we leave. I've been trying to get better at that. You have gotten better at that. But the pigeon didn't hit you in the eye. Wait, were you saying I used to be bad at that? No, I like it. You used to... Tell me, please. I'm going to start crying and laughing. Constantly tell me.

And now you gather the data and report it all at once in one fail swoop. Wait, constantly tell you what? Anything. Whatever it was there was to report. You were constantly reporting it to me. Now you're reporting it less. I'm literally just going to cry. Like, you're doing the same amount of reporting, you're just not doing it as often. Well, and I also wait until you ask now. That's, I have noticed that. Like yesterday, you were like, do you want to eat lunch together so you can tell me X, Y, and Z? And I was like, sure. Thought you'd never ask. Of course I do. Thank you.

I know it's because the things that go on in my life, only so few people know you being one of them. So it's like, I either tell you or I tell a wall, right? I want to know. Yeah, I do want to know, but I, I, I was bad. Um,

especially when you and now we can talk about when you and Graham were going through all your stuff. I was like telling you stuff. You're like not today, Jordan. No, I, I'm like having the worst day and I'm like, I haven't told anybody. So I'm like, Jordan, I'll, I'll tell you guys. So I tell you guys, Jordan has the audacity to bring up like some problems. She's like, I just need five minutes. And I'm like, no, you don't get five minutes today. You can have it any other day. But today I get five minutes. I get all the minutes. That was my minute day.

And everyone has their days, but that was mine. I don't feel like I really had one yet. I think that I love your honesty. Yeah, thank you. I told you I always communicate with you. Oh, you've had days, by the way. Okay. Not the whole day, though. I've never taken a whole day. No, no, no, no, no, no. And that's why I love you because you're so honest with me and it makes me a better person. Yeah. So thank you for not splitting with me, but letting me have that day. I just love talking to you and telling you everything. So I just get so excited. Do you have anything you want to tell me other than a pigeon that didn't hit your eye?

No, not really. But I do have a question for you. Okay. But before that question, let's talk about the one you're wearing the shirt. You were too earlier today. I did box in the shirt because they were the beloved sponsor. But with the holidays coming up.

There's a couple things you can do. One, buy the nips slash shooters as stocking stuffers of Pink Whitney because they are the ultimate and they're the best. Or when you're out at the bars with all your friends because tis the season to go out and there's so many holiday parties, order Pink Whitney for you and all your best friends at the bar. Yes. I love Pink Whitney. I have the shirt on, so you probably should watch us on YouTube so you can see it. Alex was boxing in the shirt today. Still one of my favorite shirts to this day. Has Mean Girl on the back. Very comfy. Yeah.

It's my favorite shirt. Hella comfy. Nice. But my question to you is, so the other day I got a shoe rack from Amazon in the mail and I hate building anything more than anything in this world. Like I would rather, like I told you yesterday, be stuck in an elevator and make small talk for hours. I would rather...

swim across the Atlantic Ocean. I would rather so many other things than build even a shoe rack off of Amazon. So I bribed my roommate. I paid her and she did it for me, which was awesome. But my question to you is, do you have anything like that? I thought it was like an interesting topic. Yeah. So how much did you pay her? $20. $20.

20? Yeah. The shoe rack, I think, was like 15. See, I'm not doing that for 20. That's a nice roommate. I do wonder how long it took her. Oh, it took her like 20 minutes. I would pay somebody to pay my bills. Like, because I don't set up auto pay because I'm too lazy to set up auto pay. So maybe that's what I would do. I would pay somebody to set up auto pay. I was the girl in college who we there was four roommates and we all were in charge of one bill.

Mine was electricity. We had our electricity cut off two times because I can't pay. Like, I cannot. My alarm will go off and I, like, won't do it. And that wasn't fair to my roommates. Wait a second. You guys were each in charge of a bill? Mm-hmm.

Why? Why not make one person in charge of the bill? They collect it and then they Venmo request everyone every single month. I don't know. I wasn't even in charge of distributing the bills. So I just got I just got assigned one. And I remember twice I was coming back from Colorado one time and one of my roommates text me. He's like, we have no electricity. I was like, oh, my God. And it took two days to come turn it off. So we had to go stay somewhere else. Let me tell you, I would kill you. Yeah. Yeah. They weren't happy.

I'll do it for you. I'll make all your bills auto pay if you pay me. Okay. I would love that. There's something you said last week and I have not stopped thinking about it. Not speaking of this, this topic.

You said, how much would you pay for an extra arm? And I think about it all the time. And I'm at the point now where I would pay an obscene amount of money because I'm carrying things. I'm like, what would I pay for an extra arm? And I'm like, maybe 50 grand for the rest of my life. I don't want it stuck to me all the time, but if I can put an extra arm on my body when I need it, I'm paying big bucks, baby. When you said it, I was doing something and I was like, uh-huh. And then I was like, holy shit.

We were at the train station and we had our bags and I had coffee and then I had my phone and everything was just falling and I'm like, I wish I had an extra arm. Is it a prosthetic or a birth defect? It's a working arm. It's just like an extra, like you could take it on and off. Yeah, like sticks to your stomach and it like just like holds your...

Hold your phone like that. Like a tray table. Like, like the things you could do. I was laying in bed last night. I'm like, what would I like? What would I pay somebody to do? And I'm like, no, all I want is that extra arm. Yeah. Really? And I really, I mean, it enters my mind like three times a day. This extra arm thing you said, like you've ruined my life.

Sorry. Because there's a lot of times where I'm like, oh, I could be drinking coffee and typing. Yeah. And texting. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. It's so funny you said that. Like, it's so crazy how people say stuff and it just sits with you for so long. Like, I forgot I said that. That was like two weeks ago. Oh my God, that rattles me. I think about that all the time. Like... Because people will say something, tell me something I said, and I'm like, that wasn't me. And then they're like, oh, I have memory loss. Yeah, you have...

You have Alzheimer's. Oh, yeah. Maybe that was the wrong thing for me to say I relate to. I don't want to be offensive, but you have Alzheimer's. We're like, um. You actually do. You don't remember what you said. That wasn't me. No, it mainly, most of the time was you. Actually, it was you. It was always you. Okay, you're right. I literally was like, is Mike gaslighting me all the time? But it's like, there's like evidence that I said something.

Is that your ick for me? Yes. At the beginning of knowing you, I thought Mike was gaslighting you. And then after knowing you, I'm like, oh, no, he's not. You 100% forgot. A thousand percent. Like, you just don't. Like, you'll tell us that more and be like, no, no, no, no, no. You fully did this yesterday. No. You're like, I have an idea. And we're like, let me guess. You told us. You just play along. Sometimes be nice. Oh, what a sweet idea. Yeah.

Sometimes we do tell you, though. We all do nice things to each other. Just like Alana ignoring me flat out today when I was telling you guys I had to leave at 2. Oh, yeah. Well, you don't need to leave at 2. I didn't confirm, deny, rebuttal, anything. I just looked around, went out, got in the water.

You guys know by now I'm the most dramatic exaggerator on this earth. Yes. And you just have to give me about five minutes, then I come back down to earth. The one for me was the time we needed to take merch pictures. We needed to take them outside, and it was too hot. And we're there, and the girl taking the photo is like, the lighting's better outside. And I'm like, correct. And Jordan's like, I'm not going out there. And so I was like, yes, we are. And she's like, no, I'm not. You could go. And I'm like, okay.

Okay. And then about 20 seconds later, all right, fine. I was like, okay, good. Cause it makes no fucking sense to stay inside when the photos are better outside. I have to, I,

I speak too soon. I know my faults. Just have to give me about a minute and I will always come back down to earth. It just takes me a second. And to be fair, you know how much I hate the heat and it was hot as hell that day. I know. And we were in sweats and sweatpants. I know all of that and I let you have your moment. Thank you. If you didn't come around, I was going to tell you. Do I talk too much? No, I'm afraid I'm the talker. And you...

No, not at all. You don't talk too much. What do you mean? Where did that come from? What scenario did we say where you talked a lot? I think someone's trying to come in. Someone just fell. Someone's injured. You know, every once in a while we just have like chaotic episodes. Today's just going to be one of those. This is that day. Jordan, what's your ick for Alex? Yes. She's like, how long do you have? You can name as many as you want.

It's all right. I have very thick skin. No, the ache I have, but it's kind of like it. I don't care if it's mean. My ache for you is like every three months you have a literal mental breakdown where you spiral and it's a tornado. Yeah. That's my ache for you.

That's a mental health problem. But it's not so much of an ache anymore because I know it so well where I'm like, three times ago, I'm like, my life's ending, Alex is smiling, but now I'm like,

It's fine. She'll get over in about two weeks. We'll be good. One of my friends was like, you should get a weighted blanket. And I'm like, no. I need my brain rewired. A weighted blanket's not going to do it. I need a weighted blanket? My dad said that to me over Thanksgiving. I'm like, no, I don't. I just need someone to give me a freaking...

drugs to put me to sleep. No, I need like therapy, like a weighted blanket. It's not going to do it. So I can sleep quick pause to talk about proper wild, proper wild. Woo. That's the energy you have because you took proper wild. It's a clean all day energy shot designed to boost your energy focus and productivity without the jitters or crash. That's the most important part because we've all taken it in this room and we can attest there are no jitters and there are no crash. Well, do you want to know what we're bringing to Nashville?

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Go to properwild.com slash barstool to try Proper Wild for 30% off. That's properwild.com slash barstool to try Proper Wild for 30% off. Love. Alex, how's Graham? He's good. He's really good. I was going to text him yesterday, but I didn't want to bombard him. He would have loved that. Oh, okay. That would have been really sweet of you. All right, maybe I'll text him right now. Yeah, you should text him right now. He's good. I was talking to him about how...

I was so happy that we went through that because if you don't, so sometimes like we see couples, right? And it's early on in the relationship and there's like a problem. And I think we're to the age now where we're getting older, where people are afraid to like break up. And so it's like, if there's so many red flags at the beginning, but you keep going, when you hit a really rough patch, like we did, I think it would be even harder.

No, that's so true. Like being 27, almost 28, I sound like this. I don't mean this in an intense way, but like the next person I date, like

I'm not going to make them my boyfriend unless I see a future with them versus like maybe when I was 22 or 23. I'm like, we can date. I mean, we'll see what happens. We're so young. But now it's like I'm not going to like mess around when it like I'll I'll have things with guys like I can't make some of my boyfriend unless I see a legit future with because I don't want to be 32 breaking up.

Yeah, like you're looking at this point of like, okay, how's this guy handle like serious things? Not like, is he fun? Yeah. But like, how does he handle conflict? And I think too, though, on the other side of that, so like if you're 27 thinking about every guy that you date, you're like, really, do I see long term with them?

When you get to 30 and let's say you've been dating a guy for three years and it's really not going well and like all the signs are there, I think it's harder to break up with them because you're like, I don't want to start over dating again. But it's like you have to start over dating again. Like you have to break up because five years down the road, divorce is going to suck a lot more than like a breakup. But I think people I think the older we get, the more afraid people are.

get to break up because they don't want to be alone. Well, and it's scary too, because by the time that we're in our thirties, I'm assuming all of our friends will be in relationships, marriages. So you will be the outcast. And like right now it's fine being single because the majority of my friends are single, but in Minnesota, it was really hard to be single because the majority of my friends were married or in relationships. So if I were to date someone, break up in my thirties and all my friends have kids are married, are in serious relationships, I would

feel lost. Absolutely. And alone. And then thinking about being in a relationship for four years and then being like back on the dating apps when all of your friends are married, I think is daunting, but it's like weighing the risk and the reward. It's, and then I imagine though, getting engaged to that person. Like I really can't imagine being engaged to somebody and like going through the wedding process with somebody you're not

head over heels with. But I think people do that. I think they're like, I'll just, this is the one, like, this is probably, they just settled. They're like, this is probably what it's going to be like. They get engaged and they get married. And I'm like, are you just miserable forever? I, I have a legit rule for myself. I would rather be alone than ever settle. Totally. Like I think so many people, the more and more I really think about it being at our age now, I'm like,

Like, oh, wow, people are afraid to break up. They'll just walk right through a red flag because they don't want to be alone. Do you think that, like, we're at an age where people start getting engaged, so when people see their friends getting engaged, they just...

like marry their boyfriend. Yeah. Who's like supposed to just be their boyfriend, not their husband. And then you could like see, Oh, this is why people get divorced. Yeah. Do it. Does that make sense? Like seeing people get engaged to a guy that like is their boyfriend, not, not their husband, you know? Yeah. It's like alarming. I think it goes back to, they just don't want to be alone. Like they don't want to be the outcast where they're like single again or just dating. Cause it's like all my friends are married. So I want to be married too. Yeah.

I do think like what everyone around you is doing is so impactful to like the decisions you make. Like if everyone around you is starting to propose, you're like, oh, that's the natural step for me next. But there's a – you're right. There's such a big difference between the boyfriend guy and the guy you can marry. And they're two totally different things. And I think they're two totally different feelings. The boyfriend we're all really familiar with, but the husband one doesn't come –

all the time but like you know it without a shadow of a doubt I think it's also so exhausting starting over especially when you're at the age or the place in a relationship where you're living with that person you have the same friends you share a lot of the same things like even some people like share a house together like I I feel like 50% of the population settles

I, that's actually a really good point. And think about if you have moved in with the person, you're maybe splitting bills with them, maybe moved across the country for their job. And they're the only person, you know, thinking about breaking up with them and having to like rewire everything, move out thinking, even thinking about the move out time, the awkward time of like finding your own place. Like that is really scary, but,

But is that as scary as being miserable in a marriage for the next 40 years? Like really, if you weigh it at the time, the mountain seems so big. But when you get up close, I don't think it's that big. I mean, I did it. I lived with somebody. I dated someone for five years. I lived with them for a year. And we were like so intertwined in our life where I feel I feel like he probably did, too. But like I restarted my entire life, moved to a new place, moved to a new city within Minnesota. I like moved.

changed jobs, kind of like got kind of like made new friends. I restarted, but I don't regret doing that for a second because yeah, it sucked in the beginning, but I'm 10 times happier now than is it than I would be if I would have settled and just stayed with him. See, that's really cool. Like you chose to be single for the right reason, not to be not single for the wrong reason, just because you were afraid. Exactly. When you move in, when, when you moved in with him, was it just like, did you think that he was going to be your husband? Yeah.

Yeah. So, I mean, it kind of what kind of happened was we dated for so long and he was all I knew where it was just in our head. You go on like the autopilot that we've talked about and you're like, well, that's just the next step. It makes more it makes the most sense for him for us to move in together because it's financially smart. We've been dating for five years. We're out of college.

We love each other. We think let's just do it. And then like when we did move in together, then that's when I started to spiral. And I was like, this cannot be the rest of my life. Like I, I loved him to death as a person, but I was like,

you can't be my husband. I will be miserable. We want completely different things. It's not funny when you say, like, you said we loved each other, I guess. So it's like... Yeah. It's like thinking about, wait, I love you. I mean, I guess this is love. Versus, like, I'm so fucking in love with you. But, like, I think...

I don't even know how we realize it or find it because I think a lot of times if you look at your parents, you're like, I guess they love each other. I don't ever see them hold hands. Like they live together. Of course they love each other. But it's like, do you do they love each other? Like love? Well, we've had this conversation on the podcast. I feel like a few times where it's like you can there's a difference between loving someone and being in love with someone. And I have in the past. I have been in love so many times. But the older I get, I don't know if I've truly ever been in love. I think I've loved a lot of people, but I don't.

Because I feel like if I've been in love, like, why am I not with that person? Right. Like I, and like the way you talk about Graham, I'm like, there's nobody really that I feel that way for. Like I've been in,

some relationships that haven't been like healthy. So I thought it was love at the time, but now I'm like, that was not love. Right? Like you love me, but you're not in love. Like you don't feel sparks when you see me. Maybe. But no, that's so true. Like, like you love me. Yeah. You're not in love with me. No. And I think about like my ex boyfriends and I'm like, I loved all of them so much. Like I cared for them, but,

I don't know if I was like in love with them. I was so young. And like you have a crush on them or you like them. Like I think you can have eyes for somebody and like really have a crush on them and get along with them and like date them. That's probably the boyfriend zone we were talking about. The difference between the boyfriend and the husband. But the husband one is the one where you fall in deep love with. I guess that's maybe you just walked us to the water there. Yeah. I just, it makes me so sad though when people are in relationships where

And they're just in them because they're afraid to be alone. Like, I know a lot of people in Minnesota who they're like, I don't know if I want to be with my boyfriend, but I don't want to be alone. I'm like, that's not an, oh, that's, you can't be thinking that. Also accepting, like, failure. Yeah.

It's kind of like a failure. It's a really good point. I think that's why a lot of people hold on. It's like, well, I can't waste like six years. Or they're like, I've already spent five years with them. Like, I don't want that to go to waste. It doesn't go to waste. You learn so much about yourself and what you want in a relationship. I do think too, it's a big, massive ego thing because you're like, especially when you hit a certain age, you start to be embarrassed that you're single and people start to say, why are you single? Like,

In Oklahoma, when you hit 30, in the Midwest, when you hit 30, people are like, oh, why are they single? Or like, why aren't you married? And it's like, so people think there's something wrong with them for that. Yeah. And it's like, actually, what's a lot cooler is you just taking the path less traveled that works for you. But that's a really... And I do, for some reason...

I wonder why there's an ego attached to it, but there is. And it is embarrassing to be like 35 and single. Like, well, I don't know why, but that's, but not in New York. No, not at all. But it's a major ego thing. And to break up with somebody, I do think you feel embarrassed by, but it's like, you're doing the biggest thing for yourself. Like you're doing yourself such a big favor. It's really interesting. The ego is a very powerful thing. Do you remember what we talked about last night?

Yes. How I was telling you something I have a hard time with is what my ego wants versus what my heart wants. And I feel like a lot of people struggle with that because it's like I've dated the guy that's perfect on paper. They usually always treat me like shit, though. And then I've I've like been interested in guys who like aren't my like maybe like exactly what.

my family would want or my friends but like my heart wants and they're the ones who always treat me so well and I just have always struggled I feel like with what like my ego wants what society wants for me what I think people will think of me versus like what Jordan truly wants since like I feel like the people who choose the ego route are usually people who end up settling I agree with that I've I

I was there like a year ago, like with jobs and things like that. Oh, yeah. And I... You were with Graham. I was like, wait, what? No, no, no. No, with him, I combined the two. Yeah. He happened to be... I remember saying this to you last night. It's great when they overlap. When the ego and the heart overlap and we're in the middle, that's phenomenal. Yeah. But the one box that has to be checked is the heart. It has to be what your heart wants. What's the heart?

we don't always have to check the ego, but if they both are icing on the cake, yeah, because that there's no harm in that. It's like knowing what you want is okay or what you think you should want. Sometimes they can be the same thing, but you have to have the heart because that's what gets you through the tough times. Yeah. I mean, I've dated a lot of guys who fit like the ego boxes and they, some of them have been really great guys, but I know for a fact, like if I would have stayed in that relationship, um,

I would be settling I would my life would be very content yes but I would never feel like the oof or like the spice or the fireworks I would just be like well this is life what's gonna be like for the next 50 years yeah like this is just I'm just like I'm then you'd be on real autopilot I think about you made me think last night that when I left I was thinking about my friends and I was like oh that's so interesting like kind of right out of college I experienced this but like

who I think I should be friends with versus who I feel really happy. And like, I feel myself around cause that's the one the heart wants. Yeah. But sometimes the ego wants like the popular one or like the one who does the most. And it's like, you feel miserable around them, but like you'd rather be with the people that you like your heart loves. I mean, even with this like job, like it's so unconventional. And I remember I always chose a jobs before this that like,

My ego wanted what my parents wanted, what society wanted for me. And I was so fucking miserable. And now it's like I'm doing something that's so unconventional. And I'm the happiest I've ever been. Like, I feel like New York has just showed me that you don't have to... Like, everyone assumes New York is very egotistical. Like, it's all, like, egos. But I feel like it's the first time I've chosen things...

for what my heart wants versus like what like society wants for me. Have you ever walked around New York and realized no one cares what you're doing? No one gives two flying bucks about you in New York city. It's incredible. Yeah. They, they walk by like, they don't even notice that you were there. It's the best. When I got hit by a pigeon today, no one cared. Nobody's going to care. Like you could literally be naked. We didn't even care. It's the most like populated city where you're, and I know everyone says this, but where you're so alone, it's the best though, because it's just like, you get to pick what you want to do. Yeah.

And how you want to do it and at what time of the day you want to do it. And literally, I've never felt so comfortable just walking and filming myself. I would feel awkward doing that anywhere else because people would be looking at me. Here they're like, and anyways, moving right along. That's so true. Like, I don't know how to explain it. Like, it's not...

We make it sound kind of sad, but it's not. It's not sad. It's liberating. It is liberating. It's preferred. Yeah. 100%. I'm so dry. I just... When I went back to Minnesota for Thanksgiving, I had a great time with my family, but when I landed in New York City from the airplane, I almost started crying because I was just so happy to be back in this beautiful place. It's just...

So much better. I loved, I loved, I will say I love, I have gotten to the point where I love so many places actually. Like I loved being in Oklahoma, but I love being here. I love, I just love, I don't know. I don't know. Dual citizenship. Yes, correct. Correct. Quick pause to talk about no days wasted because it's the holidays and there can be no days wasted. But with the holidays comes what? A lot of drinking, a lot of going out.

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Hello, whoever wrote that. That's adorable. I used your technique last night of eating my girlfriend out like I was making out with her. And oh my God, she came in two minutes. Right when I started doing it, she immediately got that much louder and more into it. I typically get the job done, but oftentimes use my tongue and finger combo a lot. But when I started making out with her lips down there, it was over. Thought I would share. Love your pod. Keep killing it. You're welcome. You're welcome. Amen to that guy. I want...

Do you have sex so bad so I can try that out? Have someone try it out on me? I tried it last night. Again, it's amazing. It's unbelievable. You know what? Can I say something I don't like? What? Unpopular opinion. The finger-lip combo isn't my favorite. Oh. Oh, it's a hard disagree, I think, over there. Well, didn't you just say that you...

I love... So maybe it'll be a nice change of... Maybe it'll be your button, you know? That's true. I love them separately so much. I would agree with that. I think I prefer them separate as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One and then the other and then the other. I need to have sex. Combined is not good. Jordan's like... I couldn't go to bed last night so you guys know what I did. Alone, obviously.

Well, yeah. I still do math in my head. I like that DM, though. I like that we help people. You know what I love? That guys listen, and then they're like, okay, I'll go home and try that. Yeah. That's amazing. Good for this guy. Yeah. I said a word the other day that you didn't know. Yeah. What was it again? Shacker. I've never heard that word. We can use it in a sentence. I gave my sweatshirt to the shacker. You gave your sweatshirt to the shacker. Yeah. She shacked at my house.

She slept there? Yeah. Well, slept shacked up. She had sex? Actually, I'm not so sure it has to be the word sex, but it's definitely that you spent the night.

The walk of shame, that's a shacker walking home. I've never heard that. I've done that before, so no one's ever said it to me. In college, like around 7 a.m., that's when the shackers are walking home. The shacker walk. I only knew that because my friend went, I think it's a southern term. My friend went to Clemson, and that's the only person I ever heard say that. I don't like that term. I think it's a southern term. Shacker? Yeah. Oh, I love it. I think it's so endearing. Shacker, she shacked.

Oh, she shagged last night. I keep, I think of shag, like when people are like, they shagged last night. It's a shagger. Wait, I would love to bring that word back. We shagged. Into the, into 2022. Is that British or Australian? I think it's like British. It reminds me of Austin Powers. That's what I was going to say. It's just an Austin Powers. We shagged, baby. We shagged, baby. It's shagadelic. I was going to say that reminds me of the 70s for some reason. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go shag. Have you heard of the Walk of Shame?

Alex, are you fucking kidding me? Of course I have. That word is equivalent with shacker to me. The walk of shame. I don't live under a rock. Well, you didn't know what shacker was. Because I'm not from the South. I didn't know it was a Southern term at the time. Now I know.

Oh, that's funny. That's funny. Okay. Let me add Walk of Shame to our wheel. Oh! I've had plenty of those. The wheel, the wheel, the wheel is on fire. The wheel. All right, ready? Yes. What is it called? The Wheel of Misfortune? Yes. Oh, I like the way you say fortune. Oh, fortune. Okay, ready? Yeah. Oh, there's a lot. Oh, misfortune. Oh, I swear to God, and it landed on Walk of Shame. Oh, fun. Actually. It's so funny.

Yeah, I swear. So I feel like we've all had semi-walks of shame in our lifetime, but I had a true blue walk of shame in New York, or for the first time in New York, because I actually walked home. I didn't Uber home. I didn't taxi. I'm like, I usually do. I actually walked home. Yeah. How long was the walk? Oh, a long fucking walk. But it was one of those things where I...

So I met this guy and we're at like a friend's like birthday party in New York. I don't even really remember. And I went home with him. We didn't have sex, but we like did stuff. Cause at that time I was like, I'm not going to have sex with you on the first night. Are you crazy?

How presumptuous of you to assume. I know. Why would I ever do that? This is right when I moved to New York. Okay. Right when I moved here. So, but we, like, did things. I, like, slept over. The next day, I had, like, put my bodysuit back on, my jeans, my boots, the whole outfit. And it was, like, the most beautiful day ever. I was in a very beautiful neighborhood in New York City. And I was, like...

I don't feel like I'm on top of the world. I'm just going to walk home. It was great. I just walked home on a Saturday morning and then I went home. That's lovely. It wasn't a bad experience at all. It was great actually. That sounds phenomenal. It was fun. Let's talk about Vagisil. Ooh, let's. Let's. There are so many everyday things you can do.

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Okay, this is what I was thinking about the other day. I never really smoked weed. Like, I still don't. Like, it's just not my thing, right? Ever. One night, though, one of my high school friends was in town, and he was like, let's smoke weed. So I smoked weed. And I'm upstairs in my room. I lived on the second floor, and I had the view of the parking lot where me and my roommates parked. And I'm sitting up there, stoned, just looking out the window, like 5 a.m., watching one of my roommate's cars get robbed. It was broken into, and I'm so stoned that I was just like,

And then about, like I didn't go to sleep. And around 8 a.m. like she wakes up. And I walk downstairs and I'm like the craziest thing happened last night. Your car got broken into. And she was like, why didn't you? I was like, I just came to. Like I'm really sorry. Oh my God, I'm sorry.

It was crazy. Like we watched in silence. I just was like, Oh my God, can you guys believe this? And I literally, yeah, we were talking about this the other day. Cause somebody was like, what's your craziest memory? And I was like, that's crazy. I can't picture you smoking weed. I hate it. I hate weed. Like I just, I can't even cause I just get so silent and lethargic. Yeah. I'm the same way. I smoked a lot of weed in high school. Did you? Yeah.

My parents never knew. They do now. Really? Yeah, a lot. I can't see that. I know. Exactly. That's why it was funny. Because like I would, that's all I would do. Smoke? Yeah, because I didn't want to drink because I knew I would get in trouble because like my parents would find out or I wouldn't be able to get home. And so I was like, well, if I smoke, I mean, don't smoke and drive, but I would do it. Because I was like, you can't get a G-Watt. Or you can, but you can't get drunk driving. Right.

So I would always go and I would like smoke weed with my friends and then I could go home and be fine. That was my logic. I'm like, that's my great. Graham smoked a lot in college and it was really hard because we were long distance. So all we had was a phone call and I would call him and it'd be like this.

yo, I'm like, really? That's how we're going to do long distance is you're going to be high and not be able to talk. So then he started trying to hide it from me because I'd be like, hey, this is really boring for me. Like, can I get Tuesday and Thursday where you don't smoke?

Hello? Bro, like just tell me. You're high. Like you're trying to be like upbeat, but you're not. That's funny. Yeah, it was quite difficult. I haven't smoked since freshman year of college because I smoked a lot in the beginning and then I had a really bad body high from it and it was so bad where I literally cold turkey quit smoking weed. Never again, will you? No. I mean, I've always thought about maybe trying it again to help me sleep because a lot of people say it helps them sleep, but

I had such a bad experience where I'm like, I've gotten like eight years without it. I don't really want to go back to it. Right. I actually totally feel that like you don't miss it. We have addictive personalities. You don't need to be addicted to anything else. No, no, no, no, no. It's trust me. Yeah. That's why I'm like, I can't. No, no, but I feel like when guys smoke weed, they do get boring. They're not boring, but they get like so chill. So like I was talking to someone one time and I was like, you're so quiet. And he's like,

yeah, I'm high. And I'm like, Jesus Christ. Right. Like, what's the point of it? Just to like, I get it. If you want to like escape something, I guess. Yeah. But I'm like every day, I don't know. It's just not my thing. Have you ever had sex while being high? No. Can, can you like, I wouldn't be able to perform. No. So that's, that's why I, that was like part of the body high. Like we smoked, it was me and my ex-boyfriend in college. And then we tried having sex and it

And it was so hard for me, like these out of body, body highs. And I was like, I hate it here. I hate it here so much. It's probably worse than drunk sex. You know what I've recently found out, though? What? Like, so obviously Graham doesn't drink and I do drink. Yeah. And whenever I come home, like even if I've had a glass of wine, he's like, I don't like he finds it like the biggest turnoff.

Which at first I was like, I don't understand that. Like, why? And then he's like, think about it. I'm sober and you're not. So first of all, that's a little hashtag me too-ish. And I'm like, I guess. But also he's like, I'm feeling everything and maybe you're not. Alex, I love you to death. But...

When you drink... Even a glass of wine, though? I feel like you're just all up in Graham's face, like... I guess he thinks that, too.

I guess he thinks that too. Especially imagine him sober. Sober. Like the contrast is, I can understand. Yeah. You speaking gibberish. And I never, but I'm like, even after like a glass of wine at dinner, he's like, no. And I didn't get it at first, but then I'm thinking about it. If I'm sober, I'm not touching a drunk person. Not touching them. Okay. Think about you and I last night after two glasses of wine, I was feeling drunk. And I was like, right?

Correct. No, I'm not. I'm not touching. Even if you had half a beer. No, no, no. Even if you know, I would touch you on my doll. You're done. Random thought. Random little thought. No, it's so true. I, um, I agree. You definitely have to be on the same level as your partner.

I never, yeah, I agree with that. Poor Graham. I know. Hey, but that's a good incentive for you to be a good girl. Totally. Yeah, if you want to have sex that night, don't drink a lot. Don't drink. And I always say this, but I'm not a glass of wine at home person ever. It's like if I'm out, I'll drink. If not, not at all. So it does work out. But I never thought, even if your breath has alcohol in it, I can't. If you have a bottle of wine in your house, will you just drink it? Never. Wait, so do you guys never have sex when you've been drinking? No.

Because he's always sober, so. Yeah, I didn't notice that. You never come home and have sex? Not really. No. Yeah. But, like, I don't, I obviously went out a lot, but, like, before that, I mean, I would go out twice a week, so then that leaves the other five that we would have sex. Uh-huh. Or, like, the morning or something. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Before we go out. Damn. Yeah. Yeah.

Now you know why. Now I know why. He's literally turned off by you. He's literally like, gross. So many people think it's so strange, and I know you're the same way, that we don't just have alcohol sitting in our house. I can't because one time my mom and my godmother were here and they were so nice and they bought me a bottle of wine. Because before they were like, do you have wine? I was like, no, I can't have wine in my apartment. I will literally drink it all in one night.

And then they were so kind and bought me a bottle of wine. And I did that. I literally will just sit there and drink it. I have no self-control.

See, I won't, I have some bottles of wine in my apartment. They don't tempt me. I don't see the point of drink. Like I don't, is that weird? I don't see the point if you're not out of drinking alcohol. Oh, it's usually yes. But lately with my mental health, I have been going to the alcohol. You're like, I'm doing it. Yeah. I, if I'm going home, it's like I'm eating chicken and vegetables and I'm getting a better early internally. Like, I don't know. Oh yeah. See, um,

That's how on my healthy days, like when my mental health is good, that's how I am. But when it's bad, I know it's not. It's a no for me, dog. No, that's why we don't keep wine in the house. That's very fair. Should we do the listener question? So Vagisil is a woman owned and led company around the world. Women say they love Vagisil because their products work so beautifully. Go to Vagisil dot com backslash mean girl and sign up to save two dollars on any Vagisil product.

This week's listener question I picked because I felt like it kind of related to last week a little bit. And like the girl code and ex-boyfriend kind of situation, but it's like reverse. I'm going to paraphrase it. Okay. So I went to a Thanksgiving party and...

The guy that I'm hooking up with was there. And this girl shows up that apparently everyone knew he was talking to. We hooked up the weekend before and turns out he'd been talking to her for months. We're not exclusive, but we're friends with benefits. I know he has feelings. The main issue is that my best friend knew about it and didn't tell me that he was hooking up with the other girl. She said she didn't want to get in the middle and cannot discuss anything to do with him because she feels uncomfortable.

He's her boyfriend's best friend, not hers. Even if it was, isn't girl code to tell your friend? And on top of that, she has multiple times told me that my problems stress her out. I don't know how to continue a friendship where I feel like trust is broken and I can't tell my friends things. She sounds like a shitty friend. Yeah, sounds like a freaking bitch. Yeah, I think I always think the rule is, now this girl could be the girl typing that there's always a chance.

is just bodying the other friend and like is such an overstepper. But most of the time I always go to until there's a ring on your finger you pick your friends. Simple. I completely agree. Love. Unless I always kind of go off who you're friends with first. Unless this girl maybe was like good friends with the guy first and then she's only friends with the girl because of the guy. I say stick to your roots. But it's the boyfriend's best friend. Oh, right, right,

Oh, right, right, right, right. This is her. Oh, so it's not even into into the. Yes, Alex, I agree with you until the rings on the finger. Always pick your friend. She broke girl code. Yeah. If it's if the guy's her best friend, I do agree. We're in muddy waters. Yeah. But it's girl over guy until you're married. Whenever you side with your boyfriend just because he's your boyfriend. I'm like, that's not good. You can have your own brain and your own thoughts. And it's OK to disagree with your boyfriend. And boyfriends typically come and go. But friendships last forever. Literally. And tell the ring. Literally. Then they're there to stay.

Well, that was an easy, that was a lot easier than last week. It was like, this girl, if she's asking a question, like, I think that you need to reevaluate that friendship and maybe remove her as a friend out of your life. If she's treating you like that. Cause that sounds really shitty. Yeah. That's, that's to go back to last week, this chick, she's one of her options and it sounds like she's making the other friend, the priority. So she should just option her right back and be like, Oh, sorry, I lost my phone and your number. And maybe ditch the guy too. If he's seeing another girl behind your back. Oh,

Oh, yeah. He's ditched. He's done. You should probably just ditch that whole friend group. They all sound pretty shitty to me. Yeah. That's brutal. Yeah. You deserve better, girlfriend. That's right. Isn't it so weird when you feel people conspiring against you? You know. Like a whole... Something's going on. There's this trend on TikTok that's the Taylor Swift bridge from the Great War, and it's like through the haze, I felt like I was being betrayed. Like that...

feeling of like wait something is like going on here that I'm like in the outs about like that gives me like the chills you know yeah and you're usually that's what this sounds like feel it and you're right yeah it's the worst feeling all right well AB do you want to do what you do best follow us on Instagram TikTok Twitter Snapchat and Facebook subscribe to our YouTube channel and leave us a five-star review yes and always watch us on YouTube okay

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