Harris Faulkner Proclaims Faith Still Moves Mountains
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We got a very special guest. Normally we phone a friend. This time I'm going to be able to sit down with her. It's Harris Faulkner from the Faulkner Focus, from Outnumbered, from Fox News. You know her. You've seen her. She's got this great book called

that's just come out. It's been a New York Times bestseller, like literally not just a bestseller, but number one for like weeks on end. Faith Still Moves Mountains. And I'm really excited to have her here because we're going to talk through some stories about putting the book together and

you know, what faith means in her life. And so stay with us for that. That that's really going to be, I think the highlight of this, uh, we are going to highlight the stupid because, you know, there's always somebody doing something stupid somewhere. Um, and then we'll have this conversation and talk a little bit about the news and, um,

I appreciate you joining us. I think you're going to enjoy it. All right. So first thing in the news I want to talk about, and look, we record these podcasts and sometimes they don't come out for a few days or maybe a week or so. And so things can move on you a little bit by the time you record it and when they come out. But I really am struck by, it always seems to be around the holidays. I don't know what it is, but there are usually some very notable events

famous people that pass away and you're sad to see it. They've been part of your lives. They've touched your lives. But I'm really, I don't know, personally touched by some of the accidents that happened and people who were hurt and maimed in the hospital. And namely this Damar Hamlin. I couldn't have named him before this, but he played for the Buffalo Bills. He was a safety. He got hit.

I should say he did the hitting because he's a safety help tackle somebody but he took a hit in the chest and you know routine play nothing extraordinary about it the guys played college football has played professional football he does this every day does it for a living and then all of a sudden he stands up after the play everybody thought everything was fine and then he fell to the ground and

We know now that he went into cardiac arrest. Fortunately, there were doctors that were there that rendered this care. But it really touched my heart. Now, I was on the backup, if you will, is what they call it here at Fox for Sean Hannity. Sean Hannity had been on vacation. This was, you know, the first day or two, not January 1st, but I believe it was January 2nd.

And, um, I was asked to, to back up the show. And that is if there's any breaking news that I would just be really close to a camera and I could jump in at any moment. Usually nothing happens when they have a tape show like that. And you're doing the backup, you get all ready for it. And then nothing happens. And all of a sudden I got a call from the producer of Hannity, get in the chair. And we, I, I don't know, hour, hour and a half, something like that. I sat in the chair and

As I watched this story unfold and try to convey to people that were watching, maybe you saw it, maybe you didn't. I was really touched when I saw all these NFL players kneel down in prayer. And, you know, I just, again, it just really touched my heart. And I, I, I just really felt for this player and his family. And then I, I read about Jeremy Renner, famous actor, great actor, famous,

seen him in, I don't know how many different movies and different roles. He always struck me, this Jeremy Renner, as just a nice guy. Sometimes he plays a hardened guy. Sometimes he plays a nice guy. He's usually doing something physical, you know, but he always struck me as a nice guy. Somebody you'd like to hang out with somebody who's got a family and somebody who's, I don't know. He's just, I just thought he was a great guy. And then I heard about this, this accident where he was running some old snow plow and

had some sort of accident. We don't know exactly how clear it was, but fortunately there was a doctor that was somewhat clear nearby. Very difficult to get to in Northern California, I believe it was up near Lake Tahoe. They had to helicopter him out and he survived. Thank goodness. But his life is sure forever changed. And I think about my own life. You know, I had this

we've talked about on this podcast where our son-in-law, you know, dove into our pool as he had a hundred times and, but one time hit his head and, you know, we got a 10 foot deep pool. It's, you would think it'd be fine, but he hit his head and he had jumped off the diving board like all the other people were doing. And, and suddenly in that moment in your life, things change. And you hope you have a foundation for prayer and,

and an understanding and it gives you comfort. And then you start to see miracles happen. Things are difficult and they're hard, but you know, part of what we're talking about today on the podcast that I'm excited about is to talk about what's going on in today and religion and how that can play a role in your life in a very positive way. And I, you know, as we're going to talk about with Harris Faulkner here in a moment, there are still miracles that happen and, and,

faith is large part what drives that and moves that. And, and I've seen it in my own life. I've seen it up close in personal, you know, the point I tried to make on the air when I was on Fox talking about this, this, this accident with DeMar Hamlin is that it got a lot of attention. The what's going on with Jeremy Renner getting a lot of attention, right? I'm sure every news outlet's going to cover his recovery, but,

But, you know, these types of accidents, these types of things, they happen all the time. And we got first responders who jump up and

and respond. They spend the time, the money, the effort, they get educated, they know how to do it. And just so proud of those people because yeah, it's just, I think it was Kurt Vonnegut in some speech that he gave, a commencement speech, just talked about how it's going to be some random Tuesday that's going to change your life because something dramatic will happen and you may not be prepared for it.

And you can't live your life scared. You can't not go out of the house. But tough things happen in life. And while we see famous people going through it, my guess is every single person here who's within the listening to this podcast, you probably have something difficult too. It could be financial trouble. It could be alcoholism. It could be drugs, mental health, an accident. I don't know what it is, but we all have

loved ones that either you personally are going through it or your family's going through it and it's touching your heart. And so how do we deal with that? We're going to talk some more about that. But that, as far as the news segment, was really something that was touching my heart. I also want to talk about the other end of the spectrum where people do some really stupid stuff. So let's make the hard transition to the opposite end of the spectrum and bring on the stupid because you know what? There's always somebody doing something stupid somewhere. ♪

All right, over at Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology in Northern Virginia, we did this story on the air. It was guest hosting for Laura Ingraham on the Ingraham Angle. Found this story that was out there, but the people had students. I think there were over a thousand of them.

in this, had over the course of time won a National Merit Scholarship. The National Merit Scholarship Corporation had given these student awards out. Now,

This is for the top echelon. We're talking like 1-2% of the top people would win this type of award. Now, you use those awards to help gain scholarships, to get into schools, in your first job interview. To be able to say that you are a National Merit Scholar is like a big deal. Helps people and all this...

Well, this school decided not to tell the students that they had won these awards because they didn't want the people who didn't win the awards to feel bad. That to me is absolutely stupid.

They were holding back all these performers because they had accomplished something, but they didn't want them to know because they felt like the other students didn't accomplish and were in fear. It's just absolutely unbelievable that they would do that. I hope they get sued, and I hope those students who had earned these awards win big because they've been held back like that. All right, now we've got to transition over to Austin, Texas.

I'm just telling you, I am a big Waffle House fan. I pass a Waffle House, I get hungry. I want to go in there, get some pancakes, get a waffle. I'm just telling you, I really like the place, okay? Did you see the video? There was this video out there where all of a sudden, the allegation is that some people came in that maybe had been drinking. And then next thing you know, you see this video saying,

of this chair being thrown at somebody who's working in the kitchen. And now she fights back evidently. And so they asked her about this. This is the Waffle House employee quote. I actually didn't get any kind of bonus from it because this employee is like protecting herself, protecting the store and dealing with a volatile situation. Police haven't been able to arrive yet. It was impossible. It's gone so fast and so quickly.

She went on to say, That's her quote.

So the Waffle House, come on, Waffle House. You're writing up this employee that had to protect herself in the store because she broke a sugar shaker trying to. And then she was blacklisted from working in other stores. She tried to go to another Waffle House and get a job. And they blacklisted her and say, you can't work at any Waffle House. My goodness, that is just absolutely stupid. And Waffle House, you can do better than that.

All right, we're going from the stupid now to somebody I have the greatest respect for. Somebody that I just genuinely appreciate and somebody that I'm so thrilled that I've gotten to become friends with since I joined the Fox family here as a contributor. Hey,

Harris Faulkner is just one of our favorites. She's so genuine, so sincere, and so talented at what she does. I mean, you got breaking news. You got news that's happening. I'm just telling you, she's as good as it gets. She's one of the best in the business. And she wrote a book.

And this book, another book, she's written previous books. But I wanted to bring her back on the podcast to talk about this Faith Still Moves Mountains. Like I said, New York Times, number one for weeks on end. Inspirational stories. I think there's 19 stories in the book about...

faith and how it promoted the goodness and how faith helps save these people and gets into the power of prayer and everything else. So let's get into my conversation as I was able to sit down with Harris Faulkner.

All right. So I am so thrilled. Actually, I call people on the phone most of the time, but to be actually sitting here with you, Harris, is a treat. It's great. Well, you know, you and I do Outnumbered. We do a whole lot of things together, so we do get to see each other. But yeah, when you do your podcast, it's usually by phone, smoke signal, phone.

Yeah. Yeah. It's, I don't normally get, but I'm here in New York because I did Outnumbered and I love that show. You get to talk, you get to talk more. You get to go a little bit deeper on some of those issues. Well, and you can, I mean, when, when we're covering politics and all those things that we, you know, are constantly covering, you can go deeper. Like I feel sometimes I'm like, is Jason actually exhausted by me saying, well, can I pick your brain?

I love it. Are you kidding? Faulkner Focus is the same way. You get to have a bit more of a discussion because some shows love them, but it's just harder to do it in two minutes. Yeah. We have a big chunk of time. It's just like, ugh, yikes. For a single guest on Faulkner Focus. And we call it In Focus because it's usually at one of those...

flashpoints that we cover a lot, like military or border or, you know, whatever it is. And you fit right in there because you do so many different things. Well, I love it. I love policy. I get like really excited. You are such a policy head. I really do dig it. Like I actually read those like oversight reports, you know, they come out. You still read them? Oh yeah, I still do. Do you ever like catch yourself saying,

Okay, who am I going to call? Because I got to do something here. Oh, I still know these inspector generals. So I'll read the report and I will call them or I will text them and say, this is really good. But on page 32, I don't agree with that. Okay.

Oh, no, they do. And they're just like, I think what they look at is they say, I'm just glad somebody actually read it. Oh, certainly. There are 13,500 inspectors general in the IG department, their staff. There are 72 IGs, but they have 13,500 people who all day, every day are auditing the federal government. It's the best treasure trove ever.

And so when they finally take a year or two to generate a report, their biggest fear, because I asked them, I brought them all together when I became chairman, I said, what's working well, what's not working well? And the number one thing they said is, we're just afraid that we do all this work and that nobody actually reads it. Are they right? Oh, they are right. They are right. I mean, think about how much auditing is done. And sometimes there's nothing wrong. They did a good job and we should be pointing that out too.

But there's so many gems within this stuff. I cannot even tell you, I could never have been chairman and been successful in the oversight role without them. And I can tell you how many stories then will be generated by Fox because I will read it and I'll tell somebody at Fox, hey, look at this. This is a huge admission and a finding. And I remember a few of those. Yeah. Anyway, we're getting off track. I want to talk about you and your book. No, we're not off track.

Well, you mentioned stories and Faith Still Moves Mountains is taking on sort of a

a hopeful movement of its own. That's how I say it. I mean, I think that we are now having the deeper discussions about real changes that we can bring in our lives through the power of prayer. And I know you and your family are very strong in your faith and you've had some struggles here recently. I know with your son-in-law and I have prayed for him by name and lifted his name up. Thank you. You are one of those in my constellation of friendships and colleagues who

at our Fox family and beyond, that I know when you say you pray, your prayer is by appointment powerful. You take the time to be

In the presence of God. And I can tell it by who you are, by being around the few family members that I've gotten to meet, your wife especially, that your house is that of the Lord. And, you know, I talk boldly about my faith and unapologetically because...

Think about all the stuff we know about people we work with, Jason. Yeah. I mean, you in politics and me in 25 plus years in television news and all the romance and cheating and drugs and everything that people, you know, it's like the underbelly of media and politics and all of that. Yet we're made to feel as outside the bounds of where people are comfortable when they say,

Well, foundationally, how do you get through a hard news story, Harris? How do you go and report on disasters? What do you do at the end of the day? And I say, honestly, I pray and I lean on the Lord. And I know that his divine assignment on my life is to be a witness. And people look at me like I have three heads. And now that Faith Still Moves Mountains has made it to the number one spot on the New

All of that is God. That's not me. These are other people's stories. I'm doing the divine assignment on my life by telling the stories of miracles. And it is the biggest joy next to my marriage and children of my life. It really is. I mean, I get to talk about something that edifies people even in their darkest moments. And as a journalist, I have seen people in such low spots. And I've prayed with people.

And I'm proud of that throughout my career. I would never, ever want to hide that light out of all the things I know about other people. If all you know about me is that I pray, I'm good. You're good in a whole lot of ways. And the composure that you have in those tough moments. I remember there was a time early on in Fox. I probably hadn't been here a few months. And you don't remember this at all, but I do. And there was a hurricane.

And, and Griff Jenkins was down there, you know, talking to this person and puts this microphone and, and this woman starts talking about how she lost everything. I mean, and she's like waist deep in water. I mean, it was, it was quite the scene. I couldn't handle it. I got all teary eyed and you had to take over and, and stay in the moment. And that's,

You've got, you're inspired that way because you're telling the toughest stories and they don't happen every day, right? You're talking about politics or we're talking about this, we're talking about that. And then all of a sudden a real human story where you can feel the grief and the fundamental change in this person's life and the devastation that a tornado or a hurricane or a

a murder or something happens, I don't know how you do that, but I'm glad you do it because it touches our hearts in a way. And that these people that, sorry, but it's not just spontaneous combustion. I don't believe on how we got here. Oh, I agree with you. And so there's a spirit that enters into that conversation and how it comes across to people's, and you have that unique talent. Yeah.

You've been given that gift. Well, thank you. And I thank God for that. I mean, it's nothing that I have control over other than to pray and to listen when I pray to see what next steps are. I must be on some sort of divine mission or assignment because doors open for me and people tell me things that they don't tell other people.

And I have the ability to hold a confidence. My mom used to say that. She's like, I can never crack you once your father tells you not to say something. And it's just, I was four. Like I should have been crackable. So your whole life. Yeah, right. But it was kind of a joke around my house too, that as much as I ran my mouth, my mom used to call me a motor mouth. If someone told me something in confidence, I really held it. And I really do feel like,

We didn't spontaneously get to where we are right now. Our nation is in a spot right now, coming out of a pandemic, a lot of depression among our young people, people in general just feeling unfulfilled, not happy, unsure of what's next, how to get there. Does God even hear my prayers? To the point where Gallup and Pew Research now are taking bigger surveys and doing more research to find out

what is going on with people spiritually, because we have always identified as a nation that was Christian today. Everybody's welcome. But it's been a nation where we've been led by our belief in the Lord. And by 2070, according to Pew Research, less than 50% of the country will be that way. And what are we becoming if we're only driven by secular and things that we can buy?

to try to drive the come up or the lift of our lives. What will we become if all of it is man-made? I don't trust myself. I don't think I can trust every other man or woman to secure our destiny without something bigger than we are loving us. Yeah, every answer to every question and every emotion isn't found on your phone.

And, you know, the technology of today... Or on Amazon. Yeah, or on Amazon. Just a click away and it'll show up in your door in an hour. You know, you talk about faith in our family, and I appreciate that. And...

But I had to learn that. I don't want to say too much because I don't know what you told your audience. Well, look, I had to learn that. I had loving parents. I grew up in an idyllic household. My parents loved me. I never worried for safety or food or things that a lot of people, when they're infants, don't have. As I got older, I came to realize how special and blessed we were.

And I had spiritual moments in my life. I just didn't recognize them as spiritual at the time. It's only as I got older that I learned, like when I started, I didn't have prayer in our house. We grew up with Halloween. We grew up with Valentine's Day. We grew up with Christmas. They were just fun holidays. Give presents, give cards, you know, get dressed up. I didn't really understand the meaning of this stuff.

It was only later when I was asked to pray by my roommate and I didn't even really know how to pray. And so, but then I figured it out and it was very private. And now it's such a core part of who I am. I think, how did I...

How did I do those first 18 plus years without it? I'm going to interview you. And I'm interviewing you for if Faith Still Moves Mountains had an extra chapter. Yeah. When did you realize that there was a relationship with the Lord that you were praying to? When did you realize that someone was listening more powerful than we?

A few things. I had some dramatic things that happened in my life where I felt just, I felt the evil, but I also felt the good. And I recognized that even at those young age, at that young age, like I still remember as clear as day and I couldn't have been five years old or so.

We were in Northern California. My parents were away. We had a babysitter. And this is Saratoga, California, near the Palmison Vineyards, the hills back there. Not the multimillion-dollar estates that it is now, but cow fields, literally cow fields. So we were out in the kind of felt like in the boonies.

And a lightning storm was happening and the lights went out. And as a little kid, scared me to death. I was screaming. I was crying. I could still feel it. It's like, I can't remember what I wore or what I ate two days ago, but I can remember this event when I was five or so years old. Wow.

And my babysitter took me into the bathroom and we knelt down in prayer. How about that? And I remember it. Like, I can't tell you what she said, but I remember this calmness that came over me. And so later when I had experiences and then...

I was very much, I think my parents thought I was going to be a zoologist because I loved animals. I love being outside. I love the outdoors. And I went out there and I did that stuff. And I kept looking at space and animals. And I thought, oh, what? It's not really spontaneous combustion that I would do it. There's only divine, only God could do this. And I got to figure out.

what this is all about. And the babysitter too. I mean, I just want to pause there because when you are bold with your faith, it is reflexively where you go. So who knows what anybody had ever told the babysitter about? Well, you know, not everybody's child you watch is going to be, you know, and I had been told by news directors earlier in my career, you know, not every place you go is somebody going to appreciate that you tell them that you pray when hurricanes come. I mean,

I don't know if the idea of a news anchor on her knees gives anybody any confidence. And I said, well, it should. Because out of everything that we do, teleprompter or not, people ought to know that I'm praying for them and not just speaking the words. You're listening to Jason in the House. We'll be back with more of my conversation with Harris Faulkner right after this.

Precise, personal, powerful. It's America's weather team in the palm of your hands. Get Fox weather updates throughout your busy day every day. Subscribe and listen now at Fox News Podcasts dot com or wherever you get your podcasts. Is it OK if I share something from? Yeah, yeah. That's why I was. Yeah, there's a chapter and there's so many of these chapters about their 19 stories.

And they're about miracles that happen. And these are not spontaneous. Some of them are. Most of them are people who have prayed and come in and out of a relationship with the Lord. Lord's not listening to me. He's not doing what I need him to do. Let me pull back.

And then the reminder that when we lean into God, he leans into us. And that's such an amazing story because something that happened to you when you were a youngster still affects you today and makes you so amazing as a parent because you know that when our children at whatever age are frightened, you can hold them by the hand, kneel and pray, and you know it works. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what this book is. This is just evidence. That's what I do. I'm an investigative reporter. Right.

Depression feels a bit like falling into a hole with no way out. Wisconsin mom Tina Zahn had struggled with depression for much of her life, but postpartum depression still threw her into a tailspin. Even thinking of her favorite Bible story, the story of Joseph, didn't help bring her out of it. It felt as though she could not hear God's voice any longer. The silence would lead her to do something that no one, she included, could really understand. Something desperate.

all because she felt alone. Why can't you snap out of this? The words spoken by a relative seemed to come from a million miles away. Tina was living at her mother's house then, recovering from the birth of her son. She had spent days staring dully into the middle distance, wondering why she couldn't feel something, anything. But with those words, she suddenly felt everything all at once. Why can't you snap out of this?

Years of pain pressed into that moment, Tina's lifelong depression, her difficult childhood, her first and most basic instinct that the solution to her problems was to withdraw, to push everybody away. She just had one thought, run. I'm going to skip down. When Tina figured out where she was going to go,

She started driving in Wisconsin on the road from Shawano to Green Bay, Wisconsin. She crossed a bridge, the highest bridge. She got out of the car and was ready to jump, pressing the gas pedal flat to the floor. She flew down the road. The miles sped by in minutes. She came to the bridge. She stepped out of that car, as I mentioned, strode with purpose to the edge and jumped.

And for a millisecond, she hung in the air, a moment she can no longer really remember all of. And then out of nowhere, a hand grabbed her arm. An off-duty police officer who'd heard on the radio that somebody might be in trouble. Her mom and whole family were at home praying and started calling each other and saying, what should we do? And someone said, I'll call 911, keep praying. I love that story so much because sometimes other people pray for us.

And that's why it's so valuable to know who's in your circle, who's in your constellation. I don't hang out with people who don't take action in that way because I know that there's trouble all around us and the devil's always so, he's so frolicky. He's always got something going on. A little clever. So the people that I'm closest to in my life are,

Pray, and I pray for them. And we may not all be like Tina Zahn about to jump off a bridge, but we've probably had some moments where by the grace of God and prayer of those around us and even our own prayers, we've been saved. Yeah, the power of prayer is... Thank you for letting me share that. No, it's so powerful. In this book, The Faith Still Moves Mountains, and prayer, I found, is not just for...

the most dramatic things in your life. I think if you build that foundation and you do it regularly and not just turn it into this, I can say a prayer in about 12 seconds if I really wanted to, you know, it's really fast, but not necessarily with my heart into it. I found personally, and I don't know how this is for you or others, but

I literally get down on my knees, which I think is not just a sign, but a moment of humility. And by yourself, and it's great. I mean, you do prayers at dinner, at meals. At church, wherever you are. Or with your spouse or with my wife, Julie, or as a family. But there still also needs to be that point when you personally. At appointment. In the calmness. Yeah.

You just kind of relax and have that conversation, if you will. And you asked earlier, but I can feel that promptness. I can feel it's not as a, hey, Jason, you know, I'm not getting that, but I can tell what's good and what's bad. I can tell what's right and what's wrong. I can tell. And I think that light of Christ, that spirit that touches you, yeah.

in my particular religion, the gift of the Holy Ghost, it prompts you in such a way that you tend to know what to do. And then when you're doing good things...

good things happen. And if you don't do good things, it tends to come back and bite you. You know what I love about faith and prayer? Sometimes we don't do good things. Sometimes we make mistakes. Sometimes we make bad choices. And what I teach my children, who I have two daughters, the youngest is 13, the oldest just turned 16 a few weeks ago.

I teach them in that moment that you realize that you should have done something different, say a prayer and let God know that you need his help navigating you forward now that you've made this mistake because you don't want to make another one. And you humbly ask for forgiveness and you figure out through your prayer

what next steps are. And in those times, it's really critical that when we pray that we stay silent. Silent and listen have the same letters for a reason. You cannot listen if you're talking. And so what I love about Faith Still Moves Mountains is that we do prayer circles when I've... I mean, can you imagine me at Barnes & Noble

down in Florida. And I stopped the crowded book signing that the Lord has blessed me with for the book. And I say, everybody hold hands. We're going to do a prayer circle. Now, you know, I don't make like a COVID announcement. I guess maybe I should, right? But I figure if people want to hold hands, that ought to be up to them. And I say, look, however you guys want to do this, if you want to touch elbows, hold hands, I'm a hand holder. I'm a hugger.

And we put our hands in the air and I ask for a name. And we'll do that four or five times. I've never done anything like that. I'm not called to prophesize, but I am, by divine assignment, on a mission right now to make sure that people know that whatever season in their lives that they are, they can start to make a difference with prayer immediately. This is not a resolution that you make at the beginning of January that usually by Valentine's Day most of us give up on.

That's not what this is. This is forever. This is for those times when you're praying as you should before, during, and after a storm. And those times when, Lord, I'm coming to you because I've broken away for a while. I wondered if you even heard me anymore. Yeah. It doesn't matter. He's always there. Yeah.

And, you know, you don't, I think some people get frustrated because they don't get an immediate response or what they wanted. You didn't say you didn't do exactly what I wanted. Now I'm not rich and I don't have the big car that I wanted, you know, whatever that is for me, I became less embarrassed about wearing that on my shirt sleeve. Like,

Okay, so I went, I gravitated from not doing anything to starting to, yeah, but I'm going to do this in private and everybody else doesn't really need to know. And now I'm not trying to, you know, bump everybody into do it. They've got to find their own way. Everybody does. But I don't think they need to be bashful about it. You know, I was really touched. I don't know if you saw this. Certainly you saw the stories about it afterwards. Yeah.

But when that NFL player for the Buffalo Bills, the safety... DeMar Hamlin. Hamlin went down, got up, and then went into what we now know as cardiac arrest. I was very touched that the NFL players, the biggest, toughest, rowdiest, most aggressive, what's the first thing they did? They gathered together. They knelt down in prayer. And...

You know, nobody wants to see that happen to a player. But I think it's also an interesting message to the rest of the world that these heroes that they kind of worship as these rough and tumble football players all tatted up, you know, yelling, screaming, swearing, I'm sure.

When it really came necessary, what did they do? They worshiped the Lord. Yeah. They needed some divine intervention. Absolutely. And I thought it was, but I thought that was a positive message that I hope doesn't get lost. We don't just wait for that for, you know, some disaster. So we're responsible for that. We're responsible for making sure that those messages don't go away. Yeah.

For many, many years, I really wondered why we didn't see more people in high places praying publicly or at least talking boldly about their faith. And I can't imagine that we're around that many chickens. But I'm not that. I was raised by a combat pilot and a mom who was secure in her faith. And so I'm a warrior with a heart.

and a heart for God. And so I'm bold in my faith. I tell others, don't hide your light, be bold. Look, there's a world that would really rather we give up. There is. And make no mistake about it. If we are becoming 50% something else, what do you think that is? You think it's social media? You think it's woke? What do you think that is? I can tell you it is not of the Lord. So we are in a spiritual battle right now.

And what does that look like? Well, it looks like certain of us deciding that in our homes, we will serve the Lord. In our corner of the universe, when people ask us foundationally, how do you get up when you're down at your lowest? You'll tell the truth about that. And I don't know if it makes it easier for people to see me pray, but I do know that it makes it easier for people to pick up a book.

Like Faith Still Moves Mountains and see how other people have done it. Yeah, that's what I... I think that's why the book is doing so well. It's because people can see, what do we call it? Receipts. Yeah. They can see that this works. And this is where, yeah, I mean, Hollywood, social media, others will tell you that, oh, no, you're cooler than that. You don't need to do that. Why do they do that? Why do we have a president? I don't want to bring too many politics into this.

I'm sure that Obama regrets this, but why did he have to say that people were clinging to their religion? I don't know. Like, why even go there? And who cares if we are? Well, isn't that a good thing? I think it is. I mean, okay, so we need more of that, not less of it. But I think that's what scares me, is that a younger generation does not see and feel the power of that. And...

That's why I'm excited. I'm excited for you in this book. Thank you. I just congratulations. You've had great success. But you know what? More importantly, if you're going to spend your time and energy and all the accomplishments that you've had, touching people's hearts and showing ordinary people doing extraordinary things, that's inspirational. And that's... It's an honor to do it. Yeah. Thank you. You're listening to Jason in the House. We'll be right back. I would say this.

When I go all over the country now talking with people, when I do digital prayer circles now, which I never thought I would do, but I love doing them. And everybody has their book and we read from different sections and each chapter, each person has a story or a figure in the Bible that resonates with their situation. You know, we go from, first of all, I've gotten to meet so many incredible people. I didn't know that General George S. Patton

who won the battle of the bulge and i mean think about how different the world would be if we hadn't won world war ii right george s patton that yeah you know arguably that the most well-known and most powerful general in american history well he had a chaplain and he wore a cross around his neck and he was a rather faithful man and when you i prayed about that and i said well if i'm going to tell that story how do i tell that story do you know that his grandson

sat down with me. Well, first of all, I found him. Wasn't really looking that hard. Wasn't that far away from where I live. We sat down and of course we both have military brat backgrounds and he was, it just makes you choke up. He was wearing the cross that his grandfather had worn. I know. I just, and I think about that and I wonder now, this is how you know that you're living

God's divine assignment, because only the Lord could make those things happen. I'm pretty trepidatious when it comes to, you know, people saying, oh, well, I'm going to Vegas, I'm going to be lucky. I'm like, gosh, how does that work? Are you going to pray too? Because I mean, you're going to bust your whole income, your kids are hungry, you sure you want to do that? But when certain things start to happen, I realized that I could almost sit back and just say thank you.

And that they probably, many of them happen anyway, because that's how my steps have been ordered for that, for that particular assignment. So it has been a miraculous journey in many ways to see people at work

almost impossible circumstances rise up and then want to share with you foundationally how they got there. And for it all to be this river of love and prayer that they all are swimming in is just amazing to me. And you think biblical times, that sounds like what they needed. No, we need it right now. Yeah. We need it right now.

Yeah, the tumultuous times, the things that people go through, the unexpected things, you know, I still, right in the impression of my mind is this NFL player. You know, I've heard stories that his mom was in the stands watching this. But it just harkens back to every parent who's got a child and every time they get

They go down or they're involved in a tackle or basketball or soccer or lacrosse, whatever, gymnastics. Oh, yeah. Like my little one. You got to be saying a prayer. Always. Always. And anyway...

Congratulations on the book. Oh, thank you. I love it. I hope you do more. I think people need to hear other people's stories and see it and learn how to pray. Every place I go, they tell me theirs. So what I'm doing now, I've got more of the book tour coming up. I'm going to Nashville, Memphis, Kansas City, Missouri. Where do we go to find out where these are? All right. So on my Instagram page, and I'm not very creative, so everything in social media is just at Harris Faulkner.

It's not where it's like Twitter, Facebook. It's all the same. But on my Instagram pages and my Twitter and my Facebook, I will put up my newest schedule. I did last. I mean, we've had some big ones and they've been fun the last because the book just came out six weeks ago. So it hasn't been that long. Has it even been that long? Maybe five.

But going into this new year, I want to challenge people to put more energy into being bold with their faith and less energy and to lists of things as resolutions that they can't quite check the boxes of. Because that's about judgment. And it's almost self-defeating. And so if your goal is to lose weight, take it to God. I don't know that you have to bear these things on your shoulders to get it all done yourself.

Start with, Lord, I really want to be in better health. And I know to do that, I need to exercise and eat right. I'm going to get up extra early. Will you wake me up, God? Doesn't that seem so simple? Yeah. But He will. And put down those M&Ms, which is my problem. You look fantastic. I don't even believe you eat any M&Ms. I could use a little less Milky Way in my life. You got some chocolate going on. That's your thing, huh? Yeah.

Well, I like the Three Musketeers and I like the Milky Way. And then I'd say, well, if I'm going to have one, I better compare it to the other one. So, you know, just be a little careful there. But congratulations on the book. Thank you. Thank you for having me. And thank you for just taking the journey with me in prayer as a friend and a co-worker. Well, thank you. And my best to you. No, I cherish the friendship and...

by what you do and how you do it. And I think that matters in this world. So thank you. Well, I appreciate that. All right. I can't thank Karis enough for doing that. Like I said, she is just, she speaks from her heart and she's

does extraordinary things and touches people in such a way. And I really do believe has been given an amazing gift. And I'm glad she could come in and share that with us. Now, as we close out the podcast, I hope you can subscribe to it. I hope you can rate it. That's really important to us. I want to remind people that you can listen ad-free with a Fox News Podcast Plus subscription on Apple Podcasts.

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