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I love the lovely little life you live and I love the videos, it's great. Yeah, can't watch it. That's great! Big fan. Wait, I'm obsessed. Wait, we're actually getting along better than I thought. You were scared. No, I wasn't. I was raring to understand. I knew we'd get on. I wanted to ask, actually, do you want to just talk about Tallat for a sec? Tallat on the map? Do you have any recommendations? I kind of just leave Tallat, like, when I, you know what I mean?
I kind of just wake up and just get the bus elsewhere. I love Caledon, but right now I'm doing stuff in town all the time. Oh, okay. But what was it like as a child? As a child, it was just a buzz. There wasn't stuff, though. There wasn't anything to do other than just run around and kick stuff and throw bottles. But that's okay. That's all we do. That's pretty good, though. Because it's a man-made town, isn't it?
It is a man-made town. Man, I'm going with man-made town. I'm anything in between. So inclusive. It's made by everybody. Wait. All of us. It's just constant. You get me? You know the way they say about New York, it's obviously not to that level, but any time in Tallaghan you're walking around, it's madness everywhere. There's always a group of people. There's always a group of 16 people who's just throwing stuff. What do you think of the square? The square's great. Do you like it? Yeah.
Square's good. What about the library in Tallaght? Shout out to that. In Tallaght. The new library down near Tymon is serious. Have you been down there? Near Tymon? No. It's a great, great library. I've walked into it though. I haven't really done a lot. This is a great, great library. I was like, I'm out of here though. Peace. But I've been in the one near Tallaght but like,
Every time I've been in Lowbury, it's just been faking it. Oh, you're just pretending? Yeah, kind of pretending. So is that what you did all through school? I've been pretending since before school and after I've just been a pretender, I'm a faker. I like definitely study and I was faking it. Wait, can you elaborate? What do you mean by that? I'm just a faker. I'm a low and sack of shit. No, I'm just kidding. Like, I feel like
Like I was always trying to go to the library, I just, I'm not great at... It wasn't absorbing. It wasn't absorbing. It wasn't even beginning like it, I'm just not much of a focuser. Until recently when I started doing this. That's a good word. Wait! Bow for me. Where's my pen and pad going? Did you have like, when you were a kid, like what did you want to be when you grew up? Architects hit me at like some point, I think maybe toward the end of 14. Interesting! Nothing to do with how I met your mother, I hadn't even met Ted Mosby, nothing like that.
But that was my shit. I think I was really good at TecGraph and just T-squares and Z-squares. The shapes. The shapes and the sizes and things like that. And that's just kind of, I got a bad teacher then. And then I kind of got a little bit of a... Yeah, and it's just very important. And even at the time, I didn't realise that's what was changing the whole trajectory of my life. I was like, I'll never be a fucking architect. I don't know what's going to go on. I'll tell you a funny story.
When we all went to school, like, we... There was a guidance counsellor, much like other schools around the country. Of course, yeah. And you've heard of them. I'm familiar. Mm-hmm, counsellor. But she was telling all people all sorts of things to do, like, kind of just redirect people. She was kind of a crazy woman, but shout out to her if she hears this. But she was, like, giving people crazy shit. And I walked out of the guidance counsellor room, like, talking to her about wanting to be an architect and other things that I was into. I walked out thinking I should be a beekeeper.
Like that's the direction she pushed me out. Wait, I'm obsessed. Did she love bees or something? Or was she pushing that propaganda? She was pushing different shit on different people. So I was like, she was just definitely just spinning her wheel. And she was like, you're going to be a beekeeper. It was crazy. She was like always smiling, like walking around the school, just smiling and excited to like, I'm going to give you a beekeeper at the end of the year. Like you could tell there was something up with her. Did you have to do an exam or something? How did she get to that? I don't know. No, she just talked to me for like five minutes. I didn't mention one thing about bees. Was it the hair? I'm like bees, I could have been. Yeah.
You have beekeeper hair. I think she was just having a good time. I think she was just happy to be there. That's lovely. So you didn't pursue beekeeping? No, it wasn't really my thing. I thought I should have though for like a couple of weeks. I was like, she got something out of me. She really just drew something out of my brain. She did something. I didn't even know that was there. I was going to say I'm buzzing and I was not going to be a pun intended. That was sad. So what did you think then after school? Were you like, oh, it's time for me to write down some rhymes? It wasn't even like that. It was time for me to like,
just smoke a little bit of weed for a long time. I don't know, I kind of... I tell people that I didn't wake up until like maybe like a year ago or something. Really? Kind of, yeah. Like I have me blotches, but I feel like I was living just... Were you just in a daze or were you just stoned all the time? I guess I was stoned all the time and like... I think after school I had no idea what I wanted to do. Also like when I turned 18 I got like this sort of insurance money or something.
I don't know what it was I think my mom was like Putting money aside Oh I get you For me to have after school And like me Being the worst child Of all time Like I I kind of blew it Like let's not say I blew it But I just lived off that For a while You get me So you didn't Get car insurance Or you know Do the You know The sensible stuff Car insurance But I didn't even get a scooter I didn't even get the Fucking sewer or nothing I went to Amsterdam
That was fun. Thanks, mom. But got a couple of cans of Monster, a couple of Chinese. Oh, lovely. And if people... See, it was like a moment where, like, I think I didn't have a card or something, but I knew the shit. Maybe I was like, just, yeah. Yeah, I was a bogey guy, right? So, like... So, I lost my bank card and whatever. Like, I don't think I had ID at the time as well because I was just one of them young fellas. I had nothing. I had already previously lost everything I had because I've just been a ditzy girl my whole life. You get me? And, like...
So I'm trying to get a new bank card at Kent. So I'm just buying people stuff online and they're giving me cash. You know, like the boys, if they ever need to order a pair of shoes or something, they're just like, yeah, I'm going to get this pair of Air Force 120. I'll give you the cash. You get it. I was like, that's me with cash. That's my ATM. That was lit. I guess that's what I wanted to do after school. And then that was fun for a while. Yeah. But things like that run out. Things like that kind of, there's an expiry day. So there's no job.
There was Jobs. There was a... I could point that one right now. Do you want me to...? Yeah, yeah. Jobstown garage all the way down there. You can kind of see the cow washing here. Yeah, I worked there for like two and a half years, but that wasn't directly after school.
I'm trying to think maybe. Beats me what was after school. So what happened a year ago when you woke up? Like did you have an epiphany? Let's say two years ago. It was probably like mid working in the garage. I'm like alright I'm a human being now. I kind of need to like keep some of this money and kind of. Which didn't really go well still until like maybe the last year. But I realised okay maybe I should fucking kick up as a human being. And like you know what I mean. I'd often like.
I'd pay my dues but it wasn't much about like saving or you know what I mean it wasn't but none of us are good at that you know in the early 20s you don't give a shit I'm watching people be good at it as it's as it's not good for me you get me the people I was around anyway had their shit together like all my friends kind of had their shit together you get me money wise financially so yeah I got there though I'm kind of chilling right now but that job was good for me that job was like I was meeting a lot more people I was kind of
I was nervous as a kid, you get me? And then, like, having to give people change constantly and just talk to everybody that comes into the shop, I was like, okay, I can talk to people. And then that made it easier to get jobs and even think about me being in a job in the future. Because also...
keelamon creep exclusive i am on the spectrum i have a little bit of that aspergers in me so i always figured that out when i was a kid maybe loved figuring out was definitely like a thing for me where i was like i'm not doing a lot of shit because i like i definitely took it out with that i think maybe like 12 or something but um definitely loved that as an excuse definitely loved like thinking i don't have to be like a normal human being or whatever i don't have to get a job i don't have to right
And then figuring out that I could just have a job was fantastic. So, I had a couple of little... I did, like... You know the Molly Milano statue? Yeah. You were touching the tits. I was touching her tits for, like, a year straight. They were paying me $12.50 an hour to clean the tits. But I was working in the little newsagents. Oh, yeah. And that was fun. Your man in there is so funny. Like, he takes his job very seriously. And, like...
all the stock is like underground oh yeah so you like go behind the till and there's just a hole in the ground you have to climb down the ladder and like fill up a basket full of like twixes and yeah it felt like a whole different world under there it was fun there was a little toilet maybe peeing in there and like the people be like walking above you like on the glass and you see them i'd see them they'd probably see me if they wanted to they didn't really look you know them like glass panels if you look down one of them maybe some get lucky oh my god there might be anybody peeing down there don't tempt me that could be
That could be Justin Bieber being down there. Wait, that could be a... Who do the kids like to say this? It's courtesy! Hey, love your music, eh? That's fun. So when did you decide, I want to pursue a career in music? About 10 years ago.
- Maybe, maybe. - Really? You didn't think about it before then? - Maybe like three years ago, yeah. I think, well, I guess I've been releasing music closer to three years now. But yeah, it was pretty like close to when I started releasing music was when I first had the thought of it. I think I just started like rapping when I was drunk, when other people were drinking. - Really? - 'Cause yeah, that was like a thing. Everyone in Joustown just likes to get drunk and just like rap for some reason. Everybody thinks they're fantastic. And then like, you were like, nah bro, you're actually fantastic. - You were like, wait, stop. - I'm fantastic, stop. But yeah, but...
So I just got drunk. What? I was like, I don't know. You guys meet and I'm full when I'm drunk. No.
No, but yeah, I just started doing that. And then Aidan lives across the road. I'm not really sure he knows Jay too. They work together, yeah. Gang, gang, twins are... That's the road Jason used to live on. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. They were neighbours or something. I have more respect for Jason now. Actually, what's your hate show on My Baby Daddy since you know him? Love. Just a sweet guy. I watched a video the other day of yours too. I don't know what it was. Wait, what? Why are you obsessed with us? Why can I not be? Do you get me? You want us to get back together. Are you listening to my music?
Of course I have I listened to the whole album I'm not up to date with the current situation right now You don't know the situation? Couldn't give a fuck I think it's about talking highly of each other It's about having a good time Couldn't give a fuck So do you think we should get back together? What's your hate show on me? That's the baby Hey Oh my man I'm not involved So who do you think is better? Me or my baby daddy? Who's taller did you ask? Better Yeah I think he's taller That's why I don't like Jay at all
No, he's great. He knows the love, gang. Is that recording? Yeah. I think so. Is this going to be a visual thing? Sorry, I wanted to ask as well. Did you get any slagging? You know, adult and everyone's slagging. When you started, like, actually... Because, obviously, you were getting praised at Afters and all, but then I suppose when you started doing Seriously, were people like, who does he think he is? Maybe because I usually just got the fuck out of here. I just get the bus out of here. If I was doing any rap shit, it was in town, around here.
they'd have to be like a lot of people here and tapped into instagram reels you know i mean they're on instagram with it like irish rap isn't popping up you get me they're just watching like this how you make money in 60 seconds and
shit so like not a lot of people know about me kind of now is the first time people are finding out about me and it's only been love i guess it's weird it's very strange it's not like they tell you in the movies like there's no way they're all on tiktok all the hates on tiktok you see that i haven't seen it no i haven't seen your specific i have tiktok you see do you get hate are they of course again obviously most of the time love have you ever seen or heard of hate it's a concept
I don't know. But what about like, you know extended family members? You know if you go to like a Christmas party and they're like "Are you still doing music?" How do they react? Or how do you explain to them what you do? I don't know like who's viewing this shit because I know a few people have tapped in but like last like, last big funeral I was at as a family. Okay, yeah. Rest in peace Nanny. Mom of the silence, don't smile. I'm sorry. Be nice dad, don't smile. I'm not smiling. Yeah I smile, you're laughing. Stop it, you're literally laughing. Stop.
You're a smiley puss. But yeah, big funeral, so big family. The whole gang was there. And a couple of looks because they knew I was starting this shit. And a couple of uncles like, oh, there's Post Malone. And they're like, oh, good man, yeah? And then now it's like, oh, there's Post Malone. How you getting that? And I'm like, it's a Post Malone, is it? I'm Post Malone now, isn't it? I used to be Post Malone. Now I'm Post Malone. All right. Always tired game.
But yeah. But it's cool. Like, whatever. They can fuck whatever they want to fuck with. I don't really like... So are you more like an IDGAF sort of person? IDGAF would probably be the way. Until recently, I coined it GAF about a certain couple of things. Oh. It's getting deep. A couple of things are becoming important to me. I love my girlfriend very much. First time figuring out what love really is and stuff. I think so. Is that your first girlfriend? I've had girlfriends, but I just...
have not been equipped or cared to be. Yeah, relationship with my girlfriend is fantastic right now. It wasn't always, but it happened. How did you get to that place? It's only happening, like, right now, so maybe I'm speaking too soon, but, like, I think... They're all talking on TikTok about that shit where, like, some young fella just wakes up and it's like... And I don't know, what just happened? Like, I'm kind of just buzzing over the last couple of weeks. I'm like, what the fuck happened to me, guys? I'm kind of, like, on time and shit, which is good, but I'm not always, and I still...
always be trying and that but it's important to me to be good and and with my family as well i haven't always been very close to my family i was like 18 spending money i shouldn't have been spending and things have happened but like i'm getting back there with them and my friends and like yeah real certain things are important to me yeah relationships i guess do you have siblings i do i have two sisters and a brother are you the oldest or where do you come from brother's the oldest he's like 20
30 you know i mean 30 not 30 you know he's like he's like not 20 yeah but he's like yeah i think he's like 31 or something forgive me if he's 26 he might he might be like what the fuck wait what age are you yeah i'm 24 he's definitely like 30 like but um and then my cousin like that's my sister though she's been living with me for like a lot of time okay she is 19 my sister jesse is probably 18 could be way off i know i'm 24 guaranteed
Well I know I'm not way off though, all that shit's in like a one year radius. Guaranteed. So are they like your little... I have three little sisters and an older brother. Dang. So are your little sisters like your... are you like big bro vibes? Yeah, getting there now. Getting there. Protection? Do you ever give them advice?
it hasn't often popped up in the last couple of years i think we were all on a couple of different journeys that we never really like um like realistically family life has never really been like sit around the table and have dinner shit like unfortunately so like it never really was a thing so like we're all trying to learn at the same time kind of not alone but like just like by ourselves separately to figure out how we can be a family together i think we're getting there like we're
They came to the listening party for that album and they were buzzed and they were like "You're a fucking famous!" I was like "This is just 60 drunk people, they don't even know who's up here!" Yeah they were so excited, I mentioned them in a couple of songs and they didn't know, they hadn't heard a lot of the music and they were excited. My brother was there also, he was just drunk. He was having a good time though, but he wasn't like "You're famous!" But he knows I'm famous!
That's so sweet. It is really sweet. It's good to see it's important now. Like, it never really was until I've seen it. Oh, so does that make you feel, like, accomplished then, after that? A percentage of it. Like, it makes you feel hungry for more accomplishment. So do you get buzzed then off, like, your family being proud of you rather than... Like, yeah, I'm realising it's more important than just strangers being proud of me. Like, I'd much rather. That's really nice. Yeah. And it'll be good for your ego as well. It is. In case you get one. I've...
I've had a battle with the ego gang I'm a bad guy everyone has a battle with their ego at some stage yeah yeah I've had me moments definitely I was into some substances and stuff and they definitely bring out the the worst in a guy yeah the devil or a gal doesn't discriminate
Media trend. Watch the hair for this guy. And I wanted to ask you, so you did a collab with Lil Skag? Lil Skag. My bro. Your bro? My bro. You know Lil Skag? Of course I know. Are you joking? He's coming on this. On the Dead Armies. Is that true? Yes. Yes, Skaggy. No, he mentioned me in a song. Swear. I mentioned you in a song. Do you know that? No. I think I mentioned you in two songs. Wait, what? I said, there's a song that's released in a C-Baggle song that I said,
I'm really someone got followed by Kiel and Moncrief I'm in the gap if you want beef but it's nothing to do with you like you don't I don't have beef the beef is nothing to do with you okay there's no beef and I've always said I actually said in a different podcast I hope she understands if she hears that that the next sentence has nothing to do with that last sentence
And then there's another song that I'm on that recently came out on Rory Sweeney's album where I think Kareem Ahmed Willough mentions it. What did he say? He says, fuck Keelan. No, I forget what he says, but he says something. Something bold. No, something nice. Something nice. Something lovely. Everybody's a big fan. You're a lovely guy. Oh, Jesus. Thank God. I thought it would be like big pussy lips or something. I'm fucking on Keelan. You know, that vagina is ruined. I know the BD guy. You can't be saying that shit, man. Yeah.
But yeah. So what was it like with Lil Skag? Have you been to Enniscorthy? He's lovely. I don't know what Enniscorthy is. I don't even think that's a real place. No, I'm only asking. I've only found out about Enniscorthy through Lil Skag. And he's like, yeah, Skorty. I'm like, man, go back to Skorty, bro. Bro, get the fuck up out here. But yeah, he's a lot of fun. He's repping that shit. Everybody thought he was from Limerick. Even him. Really? Yeah. Every time I say to anyone that he's not from Limerick, they're like...
They do the... Oh, no. Like a cartoon gasp. But, like, all his music is literally about Enniscorthy. Do people think Enniscorthy's in them? Well, it wasn't always, really. It was all, like, cock-a-millish fucking Fianna Fáil shit. Now it's, like, 3 a.m. and Enniscorthy thinks he's Drake. Yeah. But he's the best rapper of all time. Any time I get in front of the microphone, I'm like, Los Caglas, Los Caglas. No, he's the best ever. Yeah, I love him. So is there, like, sexual tension there when you... It's definitely...
It's definitely something sexual. I don't even know if it's tense. I think it's just sexual energy. Yeah. I don't feel tense. I feel relaxed. So there's no, like, rapper beef? No, I don't think so. But, like, me, him, and his DJ at the time, I don't know if it's his constant DJ. I don't know where his DJ at the time. I just don't know if it's always his DJ. Dewey. Shout out, Dewey. Um...
they were talking about like we were all drunk one night and they were like we should start some rapping and i was feeding into it for like an hour or two and i was like bro we need to go home this is getting crazy but um no no beef just uh maybe a tape together soon and great music and frolicking and feels just nice things he's great he's just sweet that's what it's really about when you're collaborating it's just nice people and it's uh he's one of them and you've never thought of creating beef
Fake beef? No, I don't think so. I texted the wheeler fella one time. You know the wheeler fella? Obviously I know the wheeler fella. You tapped in going, you on the internet? I just watched him on First Dates. Bro, if you're on the internet, you should follow my Instagram going, I'm First Dates. He was on First Dates, yeah. Shout out to him. How'd he get on? He didn't get on well. He was mean to the girl. He got off. He didn't get off.
so he didn't get on well so he didn't get off yeah exactly exactly i don't think it was received well online you know people won't even get that shit at home but um i text him saying let's do a versus like a year and a half ago and he goes what's that and i was like i just gave him the same it was like let's not do a versus if you don't even know what it was like it was like whenever all the rappers were like for instance but also i wasn't nobody but the fact that he takes you back being like what's that i was like okay oh i'll just keep it rocking oh okay that's the ego okay the wheeler fella takes you back
He says that song, you know, he's talking about eating ass. He's eating ass. Let me take us up on this boy. Okay. He was like an M&M bee. And he's like, oh, I can't even know. He like, he starts talking about, and then he's like, yeah, it got sweet corn on the tip of my tongue. Oh my God. He says that, he says that. I know I've been saying that now for a couple of weeks now because I can't get it out of my head. Oh my God. We didn't say it. We didn't say it.
No in fairness I have some of your lyrics here written down that I was going to read to you. So I want to know what the meaning behind them. Now I love this song. It was one of my favourites on the album. Okay, I could cut you off just for belching. You're gross to me. Is it belching or is it burping? Get it squelching. She's been squirting since she met me. Now, what is the meaning behind this? And it was just impossible to change. It was too late. You couldn't go back? You wanted to go back in your word?
Yeah. Because, like, right, that whole song, and I'm just going to be deep, and whoever doesn't fuck with it doesn't fuck with it, gang. Oh. Yeah. Here we go. It's a passion, right? But that song, like, me and my ex never had, like, a lot of closure. Okay, so this actually is about someone? It is about somebody. Oh, okay. I feel a bit bogey about saying that, but, like, I guess I should because...
I've always wanted to kind of clear this song up, you get me? So maybe I should. I'm here now. Do you know how many followers you have? Stop the ego. Do you know how many followers I have? I'm getting there. So like, that whole song is pretty nice, isn't it? It's a nice song. And it's like, but that one bar...
I don't know what it wasn't even about this that was just one of them in between bars yeah about people but obviously locked in with all these bars about it no it's just that I can cut you off just for belching because like the whole rest of the song is like loved you but sorry it didn't work type shit like missing you
Yeah. And then that one's like, I'll cut you off, you dumb idiot. And I'm like, why did I say that? But like, yeah, I kept saying that to people and they'd be like, nah, it's grand. Like, it doesn't even go straight over heads. I was like, no, it doesn't. It's the most, like, I'm sure if they had the most replay button on it, it'd be that part of the song. And like, I've always felt bad about that. So like, let the universe,
be told well I'm glad you got to say your piece now yeah because I was wondering about it and the squelching squirting shit that's on the record like that's we can keep all that that's me just having fun poetic justice poetic license poetic license so you can or can't make a girl squirt is that like your thing you're like obsessed with gang it's happened because you know that's I don't think anybody can or can't bro no because you know that's actually just triggering the bladder to like shoot out a bit of pee piss
Yeah. So do you think that's something to be proud of? Us as men, like... You love us. Us as men. Us as men. Okay, so... Men, comment down below. So, the belching thing, you wouldn't cut someone off for belching. So you're okay with burping? I could cut someone off for belching. Is it belching or is it burping? Oh, that's a good question, though. No, but is it... Which one is it for you? What do you say? What do I say? Oh, I say burp. Burp. Now, my dad would say belching. He would say belch. And you say burp.
But he's more like, you know, West Brit. Okay, no, I'd say burp. But I got burp. It's like hard. Burp? No, I'd cut nobody off or nothing. I have a tolerance to bullshit. I'd cut nobody off, never. I'd keep them all around annoying me all the time for some reason. But, yeah, love. Had to beep me out of life for a second. Sorry, I should cut some people off. Oh, shit, I fucked her. You hate me. I don't hate you. It's crazy being in the estate.
It was like, I was deep in it. I was like, am I going to be growing up where I'm growing up? Growing up? You didn't know if you were going to be growing up where I grew up? No, am I going to be Keelan Moncrief growing up in the place that I grew up? Yeah, you're growing up here. Yeah. You're literally growing up. This is crazy.
So now I have a few questions. So if you were the leader of Ireland and you had unlimited funds, what are three things that you would do to like, what changes would you make to the country? Why put me on the... You don't like that? Why should people vote for you? That's crazy though. Yeah. If I was the leader of Ireland, I would definitely unbar me from the Joe Stonehouse.
But it isn't a nice place to drink from? It was a nice place, yeah. Now, fuck them. But no, it is a nice place. They have good chicken wings. They have new food. They have a whiskey sour to die for. Oh, yum. It's great. To die for. That was hard. But yeah, I'd probably do that. That'd be first order business. And why did you get barred? If you don't mind me asking. I do mind you asking.
Do you always get passed? No, no, I do. Sorry. I was drinking cans in the smoking area when I was in the worst part of my life. Oh, right. I was down bad, gang, and I was in the smoking area and apparently I hid the... I can't even remember really the night, but I hid the cans in the smoking area behind shrubbery. Obviously, they're going to find them and check the cameras and apparently I was looking at the cameras and thinking I was funny and all, but I don't remember. Yeah, I probably was. Let's not talk about that. But they still remember. They remember me. I actually did a...
interview with 999 and I talked about it and they seen the fucking I post on my Instagram and they seen it and I followed them they didn't follow me back and I apologized in the air and nobody's like come on man I text them would you write them a letter maybe sure maybe I should walk in like a human being and say hey John I'm sorry man type shit like a grown man but that's not ever been my style how did you you know you obviously had a hard time thinking about all the burping from your last breakup yeah so how did you
How did you get over that? When was that? Your breakup. Good question. It was definitely over a year ago. It was like a year and two or three months ago or something. Okay. Yeah. I'm with my new girlfriend for like six months. Nice. New girlfriend is such a... I hate doing that. Yeah, because then it's like comparing the two. Yeah. You were your girlfriend. Your current girlfriend. My beautiful girlfriend. Oh. Oh, is she just on a pedestal in your brain? She is just fantastic. You think she is the bee's knees? She is the bee's knees. I should be the beekeeper. I'm the beekeeper.
She's the biggest news. Stop. Stay in your beeswax, girl. What do you like about her? All the things, man. It's just fucking energetic because I don't have a lot of energy. It really brings out the best in me. She just has a way of life. You get me? Really just like... It's just kind of like a proud liver. You know what I mean? She gets up in the morning and just does that shit. She just... Yeah, she unspoils me. She really just gets her shit done and doesn't give out about it.
she works hard always has worked hard her whole life and i've just been the opposite and uh she's just teaching me a lot of things and she's funny always funny always dancing always jumping around always like the loudest person second house but she's like up there you get me we're fun we're good we bounce off walls and how'd you meet her at the workman cellar romantic it's lovely it's like like a disco like wait a disco
That's how it feels though. You know what I mean? I was at the workman's cellar. Met the love of my life. I was just bugging him to fucking... I don't know who I was bugging him to. Me and Finch were just bugging him. But yeah, it was like an IADT ball of sorts. Brick Nasty was playing. I was playing. I was playing. And a couple of other people. I think like 30 fucking people were playing. It was like a huge line-up. Lord Apex was playing. And drunk as fuck, I was like leaving. And she was walking in.
And, like, she's, like... I don't know. I think... I don't know. Like, I don't even know how, like, we connected or, like, what happened. I think we just caught each other as it was and we just started, like... Like... Your eyes met from across the room? Like, as we were walking out past each other, kind of, yeah, like... Like, yeah, from a distance, like... And, like, we kind of caught... And we just started, like, buzzing and laughing and all. She was, like, so drunk and I was so drunk and, like, we were about just, like... And, like...
Just flirting real, like, out loud, you know what I mean? Just in the room flirting like it was just us. It was so strange. And I was like, what the fuck was that? When I left, I was like, who the fuck was she? I think my phone was dead. And I was like, you better follow me. You better follow me. She's like, I will. I will follow you. I'm like, yes. I'm like, yes. And then, yeah, she followed me. And it was lit. We had our bumps, though. I was kind of still... You were still in your bullpens. I was still in my breakup era. I was still...
Definitely not The closure wasn't there So I was tired Oh you were hung up on Bro I was hung up So like Why do you think you were hung up Were you just like Were you just feeling unlovable or something I just No I don't know I kinda I was like Because I was so like Addicted to coconut It's like a real weird thing For me to say But like I was just like Scared of like
like, relationships, like, scary. I just thought, like, yeah. I went through a bad one, you get me? Yeah. So I just thought, this is what it is, like, I don't want to go through a bad one again. I was just terrified, and I guess, like, I didn't really even know that. I just knew I was, like, pushing Alana off, like, my beautiful girlfriend. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, like, I just knew I wasn't ready, so I kind of pushed that off for, like, a couple of months, you get me? Like, just started it too early, and then fucked it up, and then pulled off, and then we got back lit, and then everything's just been... I know you're
Pookie. Oh, that's my baby. Pookie Shmookie. Pookie Pookie. Oh, I love that. That's so good to see you. That was what? That's like a water down version though. Are you doing the Pookie Shmookie? Do you do baby talk? I can do anything I want. It's my life. Sometimes if she needs it. You got me? If she's having one of them days. Yeah. So you don't want a Pookie Shmookie? No, no. Don't be putting the SH anywhere. I'm not Shmookie Nugget. I'm not. I hate Pookie though.
But like, it's like pokey. She's like, who's having fun? She get me? Watch her pokey. She get me? She's like, he's actually hot. Like,
Okay, sorry, I should be asking you more questions about your music. This is exactly what I expected. Okay, go on. Did you see how I had like quick fire, like, here's how my relationship went wrong. Here's how I look. You're like, I know exactly what you want, Caleb. I'm going to give it all to you. Actually, did you release your album? Is it independent or was it with a label? See, we're all confused on that. I don't know. Oh, you don't even know? I've been...
You were just like this when you did the album. I don't know what way I did it, but they just put it out. I didn't write any of that shit. We went through a distributor called Brook Records. Brook Records? Don't ask. I love you. Went through a distributor called Brook Records. Okay. Records. And they, I guess, distributed it. But they've always said, like, you're fully independent. Yeah.
Oh, okay. But I'm like... So they don't take a quarter on it? They do take a quarter. Oh. Wait. And I did some stuff for the album. Oh. They kind of like... Well, they did a lot of stuff that put me in positions now. Okay, sure. I don't know. I'm not very... I don't understand. I'm not signed to them, though. Yeah. This album, I guess, is... I don't fucking know, gang. Maybe you should know someone in music or media law to read stuff, the fine print for you. You probably should. The print didn't get so fine.
Okay. I hear, boy. It was just like nine words. I square to Z. I'm the best rapper. And then it just ends. It says 90%, 10%, and I'm the 10%. I'm the best rapper. Oh my God. That's good, bro. So what are your plans for the future? How do you see Square to Z going? I don't know. Or are you just taking it as it comes? Yeah, I'm taking it as it comes. I'd like to...
take more as it comes no diddy i'd like to i've got no festivals this year i'm doing premium next week which is a festival that's serious though and things like this but i don't have a bro i'm gonna go crazy about all together now unless you have links to all together now yeah
i can text some people i'm saying like what don't you sponsor my altogether yeah i'm getting a sponsor for all together now um i'm you could share a glamping tent with me and jason i'm trying to get booked gang where the fuck are they booking me they're at the book in the whole of dublin do they still book now or is this is it finished it's definitely finished man they have lunatics on that one i'm going mad i just seen the full lineup today i was like half of these people don't know what rap is
I just don't know. I don't know if I'm blackballed or something. I don't know if something happened, but not a fucking lucky enough. You haven't done anything to be blacklisted for. I don't think so. Thanks for telling me that, but you don't know me again.
I would have heard about it. Yeah. You know who I am? Do I talk to people? That's crazy. No. Yeah, no, I'm grand though. I'm going to do it better next year. If I don't get booked next year, I'm going to never do rap music ever again. I'm going to have to move on to the fucking drums or something. Would you do like an independent tour? Yeah, but like, I guess I'd like did a half one, but I'd like to do like a big huge cost money.
You get me? I need to be a little bit. Yeah. Give me, give me six months. Give me something. I need this to reap the benefits of this album. Kind of. This is giving me a step. This album, I just need to get up the step. I just need the way for the step to kind of just keep pushing the shit. Cause I just don't think I'm ready. Like, yeah, I'm just not ready yet. Like I really want to like do it right and have fun. Just like do it the way I want to do it. I don't want to be like skimping when I'm,
You know me and Torin, I really want to get it right. So I'm just going to do it properly. That's good. That's actually, you have a really good head on your shoulders. Thank you. Appreciate it. It's strange, isn't it? I think your past self would be like, wow. Yeah, that's great. That's so sweet. Thank you. Wait, you're growing up with Guillermo Grief? That's crazy. Sponsored by Altogether now. Sponsored by Altogether now. That's great. That's so fun. I'm growing up though. Yeah. I'm all, yeah. And if you had any advice to give yourself...
that person who got kicked out of the Jobstown house is that what it's called the Jobstown house Jobstown house does it know the Jobstown house could be either I don't know what advice would you give to that version of you you know what advice I love what the hardest part is the most important no in that because that's where you just learn it that's true it's just failure and failure and failure and then you get to succeed gang you get to just learn from it you know what I mean isn't it just a blessing it is you just get to fail all the time and then one day
I fucking kicked that ball right. You're fucking dead right. That's actually great. Thanks man, failing me whole life. Just got the hang of it there. Ash on me clothes still but I'm getting there man. Failing better. Failing better. Samuel Beckett. Is there anywhere else you live? Actually have you lived here your whole life? I've lived here my whole entire life. All 24 of them. Years not life. All 24 years. London's looking nice but I don't want to do that.
you get me i don't really want to jump to i really want to get some shit done here you get me yeah yeah like conquer one place yeah conquer is always the word i use now i feel like i'm the king you get me i'm like who the fuck do you think he is but i do i just want to do everything i can do here before i even start because everyone's asked me when i'm getting over to london and when like second you start doing good here what's the story with you in london when are you coming like that's yeah you're right though i don't like that and everybody thinks that's like the end goal where you just like
you just end up as a fucking drop in the bucket in London instead of just being like a big man in your own country and really like there's more money here for you get me there's bigger shit not more money here but like when you're on this level you have to like build the shit to get to that level I feel like I feel like people are premature jumping they are premature jumping you're right all that to say that yeah sorry about that there was two sentences of ramble there just towards the end but yeah that's how I feel
Yeah, I think you're right. You think so? I think you're dead right, yeah. Growing up with Calvin Curtis. Growing up. Full government. Ooh, beat. I don't go with the government, though. No. You're cool with the government? I gave out the PPS number. Oh, no, I mean government name. Oh, right, okay. I gave out the PPS number, like, by accident on a podcast, and I had to text somebody, and I'm like, did I give out that number? And they were like, we didn't even clock that. We would have just left it in. Oh, my God. I'm hired. Now your card number? Will you read it?
you don't have a card? I actually don't have a card. You still don't have one? Since that time? No, well I've had cards. Maybe I've had cards, yeah definitely had cards. I had a Revolut card as well when I started using Revolut but then I've recently lost it. But you can use your phone? Yeah. Sponsored by Revolut. Just for the tap of a button.