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The V.P. Debate Came Down to One Moment

2024/10/2
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Ezra Klein
一位深受欢迎的美国记者、政治分析师和《纽约时报》专栏作家，通过其《The Ezra Klein Show》podcast 探讨各种社会和政治问题。
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Tim Walz
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Ezra Klein：本期节目主要讨论了2024年副总统辩论，重点关注J.D. Vance和Tim Walz在民主、经济和社会问题上的观点。Klein分析了Vance在辩论中的表现，指出Vance虽然辩论技巧高超，但其对2020年大选结果的含糊其辞以及对其他问题的回避，暴露了他缺乏诚信，无法胜任副总统职位。Klein还分析了Vance在气候变化、经济和移民问题上的观点，认为其论点存在逻辑漏洞和事实错误。 Klein对Walz的表现给予了相对正面的评价，认为Walz虽然在辩论中显得紧张，但他提出的观点较为真诚，没有损害其竞选团队的形象。Klein还分析了Walz在经济和社会问题上的观点，并与Vance的观点进行了对比。 Klein还讨论了民主党和共和党在一些政策问题上的共识，例如将制造业回流美国。Klein指出，尽管两党在具体政策上存在分歧，但在某些目标上，两党并没有太大的差异。 J.D. Vance：Vance在辩论中主要围绕经济问题展开论述，他强调解决通货膨胀危机、降低住房和食品价格的重要性。在被问及是否会质疑2020年大选结果时，Vance回避了直接回答，而是将话题转移到经济问题上。在气候变化问题上，Vance认为将制造业回流美国是解决气候变化问题的最佳方法，并批评了拜登-哈里斯政府的政策。在移民问题上，Vance主张优先遣返有犯罪记录的移民，并认为移民导致了住房危机。在医疗保健问题上，Vance声称特朗普拯救了奥巴马医改法案，并提出了一个新的医疗保健计划。 Tim Walz：Walz在辩论中强调了维护民主、解决经济问题和改善民生的重要性。在被问及对2020年大选结果的看法时，Walz明确表示特朗普对大选结果的质疑是对民主的威胁。在经济问题上，Walz同意Vance将制造业回流美国的观点，但他批评了特朗普政府在此问题上的表现。Walz还呼吁联邦政府提供带薪家庭假和育儿支持。

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J.D. Vance's refusal to acknowledge Trump's loss in the 2020 election raises concerns about his trustworthiness. His debate performance, while technically skilled, revealed a willingness to prioritize loyalty over democratic principles. This raises questions about his suitability for the vice presidency, a position that becomes crucial during moments of national crisis.
  • Vance's debate skills are undeniable, but his refusal to admit Trump lost the 2020 election is a red flag.
  • The vice president's role in certifying elections became critical in 2020.
  • Vance's position suggests he would prioritize loyalty to Trump over constitutional duty.

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The most consequential and revealing exchange during the vice-presidential debate on Tuesday came toward the end, when JD Vance was asked whether he would seek to challenge this year’s election results. That one moment proved that he can’t be trusted with the office he seeks.

But the 85 minutes preceding that moment had a lot of interesting policy discussion, so we couldn’t resist talking about that, too.

This episode contains strong language.

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