9 - Bacon Rain ft. Klean
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I don't understand what's going on. Good job, Bleem. Hi, everyone. Donut here. Unsubscribe podcast here. Welcome to what we're doing today. I don't know what the topics are today, but we have Mr. Clean Bleem himself. You might recognize him from twitch.tv slash clean, K-L-E-A-N. Streams. Streams. Clean up guy.

That's that'll go by that name okay, lea. That's how I do that's how I started streaming Tarkov because of you and P bro yeah Cleanup guys clean up guy and P bro those are the two like that got me straight your target I used to be clean up guy guys his name, and we got baddy streams clean up guy What was your og handle oh shit? I haven't thought about that. Did you have an original operator? Yeah? It was random CG

Random CG. Wait, for real? Yeah. What? Yeah. I didn't know there was lore behind Donut Operator. We all have lore, Batty. Okay, yours doesn't count. Gatsu. Was that your AOL.com name? No, it was like Gen X or something. Oh, Gen Cross X. That was later. But Gatsu was before that. There was J-Trell and Gatsu. Both are... You dirty Asian. Random generated names.

I don't know if you can say that without random generated names. No, the dirty Asian part. I'm going to leave that in there. I feel like I can say a dirty Asian. That's not a stereotype. See, now it's safe. Okay, so say dirty any other race. Sorry. Welcome to the Once a Guy podcast. Dirty white guy. Now any other one. Hey! Okay, we're going to. All right. Clapping. Cut that part out. Yes!

Mr. Bleen is our first guest we've had on the podcast. It's a real honor. Air quote. I think. So, Bleen, first things first, the haircut. What made you do it? My hair is long, and I don't like it getting in my face, so I tied up and put in a top knot. Is it like you have it trimmed here, but is it trimmed all the way back that way? Nope. Or is it like a mullet? Nope. Molds are cool out here. Is it a bowl cut or a mullet? Neither. Neither.

What is it? It's... I don't know. Just taper on the side lightly and it grows in. Samurai. It's a man bun. It's a samurai top knot. Come on. No. I mean, it's long all the way back here. This is what we call UI fishing for bullshit. Yeah, but my hair sits on the side. Usually it's down, but...

This is a new fashion that I really... You do look like an old top-knot samurai. It is amazing. He is a warrior. It's true. Anything he's saying, I just need to understand. He's setting up a joke for some bullshit. Do not listen or believe. Nothing's kind. He's the worst. You work out, and you're fit and handsome, and I appreciate it. I think you're just used to getting ripped on all the time, Batty, so you just can't be used to anybody actually having nice...

- Batty, you're really pretty, buddy. - Pretty stupid. - Fucking sick burnt donut! - You're drinking Chil-a- what are you drinking today, Dore? - Alright, guys, so I'm drinking some Chilada Fuego. - Cool, it doesn't sound like ranch water! - There's ranch water too. Ranch water! - Oh yeah, guys, ranch water. And to do ranch water, we have to do our ranch water clean. Today as our guest, you're talking about ranch water. What do you love about ranch water?

It's got 80 calories. It's nice. Quick, clean. Say one word. Ranch. Water is so decent. I want it to go in my body.

Very quickly. Thank you, Ranch Water. Thank you, Ranch Water. We're out of Ranch Water. If you could send us like 300 more packs, that'd be great. We drink it all in a day, every bit you sent us. And by all, Donut had it. I drink it all in a day. And then in a week, we came back to the podcast. He was like, it's gone. I don't know what happened to it. Donut, we weren't with you for an entire week.

John drank it all. My 11-year-old drank all my alcohol. I'm just throwing that out there. That picture we took with Cody passed out on his front steps was real. Yeah, those were empty. All right. That's it. We like video games on this podcast, and we have Bleen here. I got something I want to talk about that's huge on Twitch right now. It's big in the YouTubes. It's relevant DMCA on Twitch.

I was not my favorite band. Nobody, well, I mean, for those who don't know what DMCA is, it's the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, I believe. Is it getting bad again? Huh? Is it getting bad again? Yo, you know who you get? Bring up the topic first because you can blame them. Fucking Metallica. Those are the motherfuckers that started it.

Lars! You dumb cunt. Literally, the guys that started it. Back in the Napster days. That's literally it. It's Metallica versus Napster started this whole bullshit which pushed this Digital Millennium Copyright Act which basically means anybody who has the rights to certain audio, music, content can

issue a strike, whether that be on YouTube, Twitch, or anywhere where your media is available and be like, nah, you can't showcase that anymore because you don't own the rights to that medium, whatever it may be, audio, music, song, whatever. So recently, just the other day, I don't remember what it was, if it was for BlizzCon or Nintendo's 2021, there was a big, there's a lot of new games being showcased right now.

Well, Metallica was part of a Twitch stream where, I don't know if anybody knows this, Metallica, it's Lars and Metallica's fault that the DMCA is such a problem now because they fought Napster back in the day for people sharing music.

Well, as soon as Metallica started their live stream of music, there was like two seconds of sane anger and it cut. Oh, they got DMCA'd. No. Oh, no? Twitch, this is Twitch's broadcast. They cut the audio off so they didn't get DMCA'd on their own channel. Twitch cut their own audio to 8-bit musical like Pokemon bullshit. Yeah.

So this is Twitch's live stream. There's hundreds of people rebroadcasting this same fucking thing of Metallica playing on Twitch. And Twitch is like, oops, we cut the music. So now you have hundreds of streamers who are rebroadcasting Twitch's own feed because they're allowed to. And then suddenly everybody's scrambling to mute everything as fast as they can because they're afraid to get hit with a strike again.

Because of the DMCA three strikes your channel is gone. You can't do anything about it gone So DMCA is basically just fucking everyone. Yeah, I mean there's not there's not been that many people have been permanently banned nobody form But some people have gotten strikes and again if you get three strikes on your channel regardless of the context you're gone Your channel is gone. So I'm gonna say something that that's bullshit to an extent. There's been zero actual twitch

Yeah, but I'm saying there hasn't, I'm just saying that's what would happen. Yeah, exactly. If you got three strikes, you're fucked. It hasn't happened yet, but according to the terms of service, if you get three DMCA strikes on your channel, like, they have to cut you illegally. Yeah, and that's because, so for Twitch to allow streamers to play whatever they want, they have something called Safe Harbor. It's a special fucking thing for Twitch.

where if they issue these strikes and there's certain guidelines behind these strikes where if you get three of them, they can just ban you, you're gone, you're forever or whatever, your channel doesn't exist. These strikes have to be issued via Twitch

Otherwise, Twitch loses Safe Harbor. And if Twitch loses Safe Harbor, they're suddenly open for all of these lawsuits from all of these bands or more likely labels, UMG, Sony, whatever it may be. You just come in and drop their fat cock across Twitch and be like,

You owe us $300,000. And it's going to be way more now. And that's the terrifying thing. And I hate it. Because it's like, I see. It's archaic. Yes. And I see both sides of it. It's like, you're an artist. You're a creator. And you want to get paid for your content. But on the flip side of that, like, I don't play top 100s. Period. Never. Now, all my music is metal, metalcore, rap metal, like,

Just anything that aren't on the top 100. And people are like, yo, what is this? What is this? Now those names... Now that's all that gets pushed because these people that already, they don't...

Their song's getting played on the radio. They're getting played everywhere. So getting viewed on these streams doesn't fucking hurt them in the slightest. It's like if I watched a video... If I watched a YouTube video on Just Chatting and had Donut's video get... That's like Donut fucking going after me and suing me. Donut, you should go after him. I mean... You should show him. Yeah, I would. We can't talk about that right now. We're in a legal battle, so... Awkward! But it's that...

Mindset where you get so pissed it's like no these people can't play my music because X Y and Z and you're like and then all the streamers were scrambling to figure out Most just stopped altogether. It's like I'm not streaming music. Yeah period just a couple of my friends. I mean you even shroud I

Most streamers. I've talked to him about it. He does not play music on his stream at all. It's silence. It's literally just silence, or if the game has music, he'll listen to the game's music. But if the game's music has music that is kind of, you know, the game has the rights to use it. Yeah, Cyberpunk or GTA, people have gotten DMCA strikes from music in Grand Theft Auto IV because people do DTRP and stuff like that. It was, Dr. Lupo, there was one scene, and I want to say one of those games, um...

Not Love for Dead, but the zombie apocalypse with the plant people. Uh...

Last of Us. Last of Us 2. The radio kicked on and he just muted it because it was a song and it was a clip he played. And you're like, he just instantly cut that song out because of that one thing. So it's like, as a streamer in a big time, when you're that level and you're just worried about one strike, it is... Yeah, your whole career could be jeopardized from that. And it's overnight, which is fucking terrifying. You're like, I'm sorry, I don't want to do this. DMCA strikes, I mean, not DMCA, but strikes in general, I mean...

You get a deal with that. Yeah a lot with quite a bit. What is going on YouTube especially on YouTube strike apocalypse happened What like started like five years ago? Yeah, it was bad - man There were people that were humming songs like the tune the songs and they were getting hit. Yeah It was insane for a minute there The YouTube algorithm is the scariest fucking thing I've ever seen because you can whistle something and they'll be like, oh wait That's someone else's music

Yeah, alright, we're done. YouTube just fucked us right there. What's that one dude? He did that skit where he's like, hey...

Anybody need a knife like that that guy he makes his own music and he makes like a bunch of skits on YouTube and he got his own music claimed by somebody else like he Oh, yeah made his own music false claims, dude They don't matter own music and like these fuckers striked him and like hey, that's actually yeah, it doesn't matter Nobody's that he's like no like I literally made all of this and I recorded me making all of this like on the on the fucking piano and shit and Then you just strike me for it

I mean, Metallica playing a live... That's like, as you're saying, it's like Metallica doing a live concert. Like, Twitch, are you fucking ready to fucking go? Clipped. Gone. No sound. Audio. And it's just like overdubbed of that. And you're like, why can't we hear them? Oh, well, like, yeah, they play it, but they don't own technical rights. When Twitch is afraid to play Metallica...

on their own broadcast with Metallica. Like Metallica, it wasn't like they were streaming a video. It was Twitch's fucking channel streaming Metallica live for Twitch. And they're like, "Twitch is live, Metallica's live. It's been three seconds." Boom, immediately switched to 8-bit audio. Like Twitch switched the audio on their own live broadcast.

That's how fucked things are you think that was an automatic response? Yeah? I think there's somebody behind the scenes who they already knew that was gonna happen. Okay? We're gonna play Metallica We got a we got a cup all of this though like do the clips are all over Twitter It's wild like absolutely fucking wild but even more so most of the clips on Twitter are

now are just the 8-bit audio. People are afraid to play the first three seconds of the clip, which has Metallica playing St. Anger because of DMCA. Now Twitter strikes on Twitter are so bad. People are getting their Twitter accounts deleted because of Twitter strikes, because of audio strikes. Like...

And sharing a clip on your Twitter account can get everything just wiped. And for a lot of people, that doesn't matter. You don't understand. But as like a streamer, a YouTuber, as somebody in social media, as networking wise, like this is huge for a lot of us. And to just have that shit ripped away and wiped is like,

It's pretty fucked. So before you guys, what years did you guys start streaming? 2017? 2016. 2017. 2018. Yeah, 2016. So I want to say this was right before that period was, I know Evo and Twitch went through this. Nintendo had a big DMCA thing because the way Nintendo looked at it at first was like, oh, why are we letting these people play these video games live and watch a story be told?

We can just DMC it. This is just a copyright. They're copywriting our stuff. They're showing Nintendo games. Yes. And so that was like Nintendo was like, I don't know. So Evo actually went on hold for a year. That's why Smash Brothers, if I remember right, didn't get played for a full year or two because of...

the fear of DMCA against Nintendo being broadcast without the right. It's wild. Because if you look at it, music and video games are no different. It's an art form. It's content. Exactly. And you could have, imagine if PlayStation 1 did it, it's like, no, you can no longer stream our content live without us having a... A cut of the pie. Jesus. Like,

And that's how fast, that's what's terrifying about it. Cause it's like right now it's just music. So it's a central thing, but it could expand. It's a slippery slope. And that's what's terrifying with all those types of things. It's like, I mean, we say music, but it's, it's movies. It's, it's, it's video as well. We just don't look at it as movies because it's been so harsh on video for so long. We don't count it. You can't stream whatever movie you want anymore. That's not a thing. Music is just the next strike. It's the next frontier for it.

We went from movies not being able to stream to a video of any kind, really, unless it's a game, to now music in that game. Like, you can't play, like, God, fucking playing Metallica on stream is basically like saying, shoot me in the foot. But now you have games like Grand Theft Audio that have an in-game radio. And that in-game radio for Grand Theft Audio. They bought the rights to something that now can't be played on TV.

Now, whoever owns DMCAception. There's layers behind layers. It's fucking wild. Where does it stop? You have background sound. What was the big one that recently happened a couple months ago? It was like...

Car audio like car sounds in the back of oh, yeah, no there is literally Like certain engine revving and or tire screeching and or wind sound Getting claimed for DMCA like it's like oh you got striked because of wind sound default one or something like that and it like literally people own the rights for literal audio samples, oh

This is actually something that's really big in the lo-fi industry, too, because I just made a record label with my friend. It's called Kyoto Sound. We promote really indie lo-fi artists. That's K-Y-O-T-O, Kyoto? Kyoto. It's all I listen to in the background on my stream, by the way.

Nice. Because I made that playlist originally just to help artists out for free, and it got over 140,000 followers. And I helped build people careers in the lo-fi industry just by being able to plug them in the algorithm. And I lost time to listen to submissions and get people. So that's why I hit up a childhood friend who's also a producer.

And I was like, hey man, can you take over this playlist for me and turn it into something? Because I've literally been using it as charity work basically for years. And so we're actually using it to try and make a platform where people can listen to Lo-Fi Beats and not have to worry about

DMCA strikes but something that's kind of sketchy about low-fi is that people steal samples from each other all the time Oh, yeah, and those original samples you can you can they're in so many songs even apparently a lot of my The songs that I added to my playlist have a lot of unclear samples. Oh, yeah, absolutely And you you can get in trouble for even potentially listening to that sample even though the songs probably find that sample plays Yeah, you're fucked three seconds. Yeah That's all it takes. Yeah

And, you know, when it comes to lo-fi and stuff, it's really, really tricky to find, like, legit original samples nowadays because it's so filtered. There's so many different people stealing from each other and just using each other's work. And if you are in that world, it's crazy. Like, if you give me VFX, if I watch TV or if I see...

a YouTube video that has like visual effects in it. I know the exact like Andrew Kramer stuff because you have to buy that. He's not going to get like, like blood splatter in VFX. I know it's a cross blood splatter. Like I think I just did a video about it. Yeah. And you have, these are specific ones that do these and there's only a few team and you see movies, gaming, whatever. You're like, holy shit. I recognize that same blood splatter effect. Yeah.

It's been eight years and I'm seeing this across multiple games. It's like, it's the same effect. It shoots across and makes an X. And you're like... And the one that goes up and down. Yeah, exactly. It's wild. And muzzle flash. Smoke. I can tell you the smoke wisp one is very specific and I know when I fucking see that on TV or a movie. The same shit that I use in my effects sometimes where I just... I get on YouTube and I'm like...

smoke effect and there's a green screen behind it that's what like like major video game and movie companies are using that oh yeah so they gotta say people who's I'm an idiot fucking in Texas behind a computer who's like oh yeah I just want to use a bang real quick if you know how to do VFX whether it's 3D rendering modeling whatever I grab everything if you know how to use Google

You don't need to create and make every single thing you do. You learn to fucking use these free fucking things to save time. That's the only thing that's different. I know it's time, and then I make it blend better so it looks more organic. That's the only fucking difference. I'll add layers onto it, but it is the exact same effect. And if Andrew Kramer... I have the license to it, like all the teams do, but most people fucking don't. And if he just went through and DMC striked like...

a majority of YouTube. Boom. He's like, hey, did they pay for this? Let me see the license. No, they didn't. Knock them too because that's where DMCA gets terrifying. It's like, what does the art, where can you stop at like what you can start claiming? Yeah. Period. Imagine like Donut, like if you got the username or it's like Donut operator, now they can't say that and then you like Donut. Strike anybody who makes a Donut joke about cops. Exactly. There's a Donut in a video. And you're like,

and you're like, oh, no, cop and that, two related, that's mine now, strike, all your AdSense goes to me. And you're like, well, donut business, new invite. And then you lose all that AdSense to YouTube because you made it a shooting, a gun joke once. That's what's terrifying too, man, is me and Brandon Herrera who just came in a minute ago. He's going to be on the next episode. Woo! We were talking about how one day...

They're just going to delete our channels. They're going to be fucking gone. Absolutely. Just because we like the Second Amendment, we like guns. YouTube, Eli Double Tap does not like guns. Anything about that. Batty streams on YouTube. I hate fucking that.

firearms. They are terrifying things. Why? Oh my God. I don't need to own that. Thank you, Clint. They make up new policies every day. YouTube could just be like, we don't want guns. I couldn't imagine. I'm waiting for Twitch to do that. I know there's the whole HR 127 getting proposed right now and stuff. I'm really waiting for the next big thing to happen on the media about gun control and stuff like that. I'm one of the only

Streamers on Twitch who does gun stuff as well as you you like the first one Yeah, no I was I don't know anybody else who really would consistently go to the gun range on Twitch because everybody was afraid I started doing it was because you could do it and then yeah, whatever was like you can't do that I'm like, yeah, you know, it's it. Yeah, I mean I I Asked which I'm like, hey, I read you terms of service and here it just says you can't threaten yourself Other people on your stream or your viewers with knives firearms or weapons. It doesn't say anything about

you using guns on stream the way that they're, you know, intended to use in a safe manner for training. Uh, and I asked Twitch about this. I'm like, is this okay? And they're like, yeah, it's fine. And I'm like, you sure? I'm like, yeah. And usually a lot of people freak out because, uh, back before Twitch was actually, uh,

bought by Amazon and they had their older terms of service. Justin TV. Yeah, Justin TV and stuff like that. There was a guy named Ricegum or something and he was threatening people with a BB gun or something. I remember that. Ricegum, dude. He threatened people with a BB gun or something on his stream. And that...

and he got banned for it and ever since then people were like oh you can never show guns on stream like cause like I used to when I started playing Tarkov I had like my AK behind me on my wall people were like dude you need to put that gun away you're gonna get banned this and that and I'm like

No, I've read the terms of service. It doesn't say anything about if I have a gun on my stream. Yeah, if I'm pointing at myself and being a retard, yeah, okay, I might get banned. But it's just on my wall for looks. That one guy. I love we live in the age of information, and it's still all information is treated like the... Panic. No, it's treated like the playground. It was like, bro, I heard if you speedrun this game, you can get Lara Croft naked. Yeah.

And then everyone just takes that to heart. Wait, I can, guns are bad. You're saying I can see triangle titties right now. I'm saying, I've heard my uncle works for PlayStation. It's because Twitch, YouTube, these big media will not put like a line in the sand where what you can or cannot do, whether it's YouTube or Twitch. Be fucking clear with us. They will not, and that's why, but they won't because of, because of that reason. If they're clear,

they suddenly have to uphold their own standards. If shit is shady, if shit is unclear, if shit is... Lawyers, by the way. Lawyers are really good at writing contracts. Exactly, man. If they keep things kind of...

Oops, wishy-washy. They're allowed to be like, that's okay, that's not okay. Nobody can fight it. Well, yeah, it's all based off context at that point. But that's the problem. You can't even say, like, Twitch put out their huge thing, like, what, two years ago? Last year? Context is king. Hold us to context. And everyone's like, okay, well, here's the context of this. Why are these people banned? Why are these people not banned? It still doesn't matter! The girl literally...

Oh, the asshole girl showed her, holy shit. She opened her pussy on stream, like literally opened her pussy, like just straight up. Just to say OnlyFans, like check out my OnlyFans three day band? One day. No, it was 24 hours. Was it 24 hours? A 24 hour band. What? I didn't know about this. We've had a friends band for way less than that. That's what I'm saying, man. It's like insane. Mm-hmm.

Twitch is like, hold this to context. You can just flash your straight up fucking goddamn cervix and it's a one day ban.

That's where, and that's where it's like, you see who's like running in there like, oh, well, this isn't a thing against any streamers or girls on this stream. Like there, I, I, there's another girl that that's a huge streamer when it comes to body painting and she upholds every single standard when it comes to the Twitch is body painting standards. Like she doesn't turn on her stream until she's covered her nipples. She's already done all of her painting and everything.

And then suddenly Twitch is like, no, we don't like what you're doing. Here's a fucking week-long ban. You know what happened? She wouldn't fuck one of the moderators. Dude, like, that's it. Like, what the fuck? Sorry, Twitch, we love you, dude. It's funny, too, that one, Linity throwing her cat, and then there's that other girl who kind of just, like...

Like toss your cat aside and she gets back to her game and that chick gets banned for like, he's like, yeah, no, but Alinity, like in the difference of that situation, like Alinity was like aggressively throwing her cat. That was the one that spit alcohol on her cat. And again, vodka, nothing happened. Yeah. This other girl, like, uh, she got banned because her cat walks across the desk. She just goes like this and gets back to her game. Alinity literally like over her shoulder. It's her cat. Like she literally like, fuck you. Um,

And then Twitch is saying context is king. Yeah. Motherfuckers, if you want us to hold you to that standard...

Maybe, MAYBE uphold yourself to some kind of standard. But this is why they don't do it. It should be... But that's hard to hold yourself accountable. I mean, holy... But that's the thing. It's hard. They won't until social media holds them accountable. True. Like, oh, where'd Hasan go? What happened there? That motherfucker dropped off the world. I used to hang out with him at cons. He was a good dude. He was a great dude until everyone realized, oh, he's rapey as fuck. Like...

Tell me I'm wrong! I don't know this story. I don't know. Hasan was... He was a Twitch... No, no, no. Oh, different. No, not Hasan. Oh, okay. Not that one. Hasan and Avi's a great fucking thing. Okay, yeah. I was going to say, Hasan... We were talking about Twitch. You said Hasan. I actually hung out with Hasan like three years ago. Once, yeah. Two years ago. Yeah, I would hang out with him and a lot of the other Twitch staff homies.

And, you know, he's always a cool dude, but apparently, like, he was, like, sharing private information about female streamers with other people and doing a bunch of really shady things. Oh, I don't know what you're talking about. You know, basically, like, hey, if you don't do this, I will ban you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very, like... Power hungry. Yeah, just really, like, not okay behavior for a person in his position. And he just went... He just disappeared.

Nothing happened. No negative contact. He just disappeared. Twitch let him go and he was like...

No, I didn't hear about that story with Homeboy just disappearing. But it's also the ancient. He's not the only one either, man. There's so many people. There was a few people. I'm sure there's also ones that people don't know about as well. The best way to do the internet, if you have internet dramas, fucking don't say anything, shut up, disappear. And then it's gone in a week or two. Because it's the internet cycle. It's literally like, ah, and it's gone. Dude, I remember, so... Before Batty, go.

And you're saying Twitch should be held as standard. It's like people, when they eat a cat, both should be on the exact same band schedule. It's like seven days, seven days, right? Yeah. Exactly. Batty, like with Slush passing out drunk on camera. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm not going to disagree with you. Batty doesn't. No. One, two, three.

How much of a band did Slush get? A week, I think. No, no, his was a three day. Was it a three day? So Slush was already on his like third fucking strike though is why he got such a bad one. So for everyone who doesn't know what happened, me and our buddy Slush Puppy, Slush Puppy on Twitch, go give him a follow. Great guy. He's Australian. He's a cunt, whatever. Huge cunt. Giant. Me, Slush, you, Eli, and I think Kings. Oh yeah. We're all drinking. We're having one of our nights where we get shit cocked on stream.

And everybody left and it was me and slush. And I was like, I was hammered. I was drunk and slush was well beyond comprehension at that point. I was like, bro, I'm ending. You should end too. He goes, no, I'm good.

20 minutes later, this motherfucker slumped over at his desk, snoring, passed out, fucking hammered drunk. This dude, first off, started shit-talking me. I was like, haha, Eli, you blacked out on stream, bitch. How many drinks do you have? Oh my god, I would never do that.

I was like, uh-huh. Uh-huh. Oh, you'd never do that. He's trying to make fun of me, and then the next day, I get a text from Batty. Slush got banned. I was like, what the fuck happened? Slush trying to drink with Batty got fucked. Yeah, we did a mana potion night where we were just doing shots to drink.

Mana. Mana. For all my nerds out there, he had to replenish our mana. And Slush lost that fucking game. But it was really, he had hurt his back. He was also on some muscle relaxers and shit. And he kept talking about being on these different pain meds while also drinking. You don't want to mix those. While on stream. That's the line. So if everybody doesn't know, like a month later, old Batty decided to go out and

I just love it. Yours was out on your front or your back fucking porch. So I used to do these streams where I would just go out on my porch and grill and drink. They're good. Far too much. And I don't remember what was going on. I was clearly in a bad place. But I had this giant mug that was sent to me by one of my mods. It was a bad dragon. The company that makes the dildos of dragon cocks and shit. They sent me a mug. But it was like

It was like a fucking big ass mug. It was meant to hold like half a handle, like whatever, 200, 300 milliliters of whatever. Like it was a lot of booze. So I poured, uh, I did a Jamo ginger, but it was like half a bottle of Jamo and a mug. And I didn't realize it until like I finished the mug. I was like, well, half the bottle's gone. I'd been grilling dogs and burgers that night.

So I poured the rest of the bottle in when I finished that one, and then I drank an entire bottle of JMO black in like, it was like 45 minutes, an hour. Oh my god. Yeah, I was fucking hammered. And then towards the end of the stream, I was like, man, I'm just going to take a nap. And in my mods, everybody's freaking out. They're like, dude, are you going to shut the camera off? I'm like, nah.

And I just curled up and, you know. I messaged you like 30 times because my mods were like, message Batty, call him right now. I'm like calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling. And I was just like, and I think the only reason I didn't get banned was because I was like, I'm going to just take a nap real quick. And you're allowed to sleep on stream as long as you're not in a category.

You pull yourself from a category, you're allowed, like a lot of streamers do it. That scares me. Not just chatting, just like nothing. No category. Nothing. You can do that. You just press delete and then press save. You're good. That scares me because I wake up sometimes and I'm completely nude. Yeah.

Dude. I fart. I get boners. Because I've seen people who stream themselves sleeping. There's no telling how I'm going to be in the morning from when I go to sleep. To continue on this, it was like 5 a.m., 4 a.m., whatever.

I've had 300 missed calls. My mods, everybody's calling me. So my mods have access to my stream stuff. So they pulled me. As soon as I was like, I'm going to just take a nap. They're like, oh, fuck, dude. He's hammered. They pulled me from the stream category. So I was in blank. And I was just me just chilling for like an hour and a half.

Just sleeping, curled over. Out on my front porch and like, you know, the background is the sun and shit. It's starting to rise. I woke up at like 4.30, 5 a.m. And I was like, looked at my phone because I was getting calls still from Donut, from everybody. And I just went...

nah fuck that I put my phone down and walked my ass inside went to bed stream live everything going all my mods were hanging out until like 7am the sun had come up I panic woke up dude I've never had it's been a minute since I woke up like where am I you know like I know that feeling yeah like usually it was like back when I worked like a regular job and I was like fuck I was supposed to be at work four hours ago

And Sted's like, fuck, I was at work. Oh, no. Why am I here? Dude, I woke up in my own bed going, how did I get in my bed? I don't remember. I went outside in my boxers, no shirt. I was like, camera's on. Slammed the laptop shut and went, fuck. I just love you were like an RPG character just starting his giant endeavor in life. It's like...

You have that wake up. The sun is setting. It's like the hero arises. It's like, does the hero accept his quest? No. You just go to bed drunk. Dude, I slammed the PC, knocked over the camera, went back inside, looked at my phone. I was like, oh no. Because, dude, not two weeks, three weeks earlier, I was just shitting all over Slush Puppy for passing out drug upstairs.

And then I fucking did it. And nothing happened to me though. Like I didn't, like I'm not like a smaller, like I saw like 400 fucking 500 people watching me pass the fuck out drunk. They had hosted Rolly and then Rolly stream ended. So it kicked back to me and my mom's like, what do we do? What do we do? Oh,

It was chaos. And those are the most terrifying moments, like waking, like the mana potion nights, like waking up and I'm just like, all I remember is I wake up in bed. I'm like, why, why am I, how did I get here? Why am I in bed? Oh, do I want to watch this VOD? Cause I'm about to delete it. Dude. The key I've learned, if you delete the VOD before you end, it doesn't save any of anything after.

So if you delete the VOD like 45 minutes into your like, I'm going to get drunk tonight. Delete that VOD. It will not save any of the rest of the night. A VOD, by the way, is the recording of the stream. Video on demand. Yeah, it stays on Twitch. It's your mistakes for the night. So like, that's what I've learned to do. If I'm going to get shit cocked, dude, I'll be like, hey, Party Pineapple, can you delete that VOD for me real quick? He's one of my mods. Can you just delete this right now? I need to add him as a mod. He's...

I'm wearing one of his shirts today, Party Pineapple. - I just love-- - That's pretty sick. - He's such a good dude too. Party Pineapple, I remember, I will always remember that giant raid in Tarkov where you gave me a bag full of-- Nothing but pineapple juice inside it.

And then another bag with nothing pineapple. You know how those old bags you could stack and then... Yeah, yeah, yeah. The infinite stack, he would do that for like 30 fucking bags. So you're just searching, searching. So you're like in raid and you're like, why am I searching through pineapple juice right now? Jesus. I did a bag full of mayonnaise last week on raid. We just did that. Yeah, we did the bag full of mayonnaise and we got fucking murdered.

My god, that's what our cup is turned into is just people not giving a shit anymore. It goes through those cycles You have like um, it's not it's 30 days. It's it's it's about 30 days That's when the game is really fun game. Just wipe nobody's running best in slot gear besides the fucking most ridiculously sweaty players wait mark 1833 Lapua semi-automatic fucking bullshit. Yeah KS shotgun like metal bullshit anyone

like a fun like hardcore survival game where like there's scarcity and people like need things to like they're just being an overabundance of money and things and there's just like the 1% of players who are super rich and then you got like the 99% of people who are just trying to scrape by and they're just still doing their scab runs and stuff. You're one of the first

Clean is one of the first streamers I ever watched playing Tarkov. Well, I mean, not to toot my own horn, but I was like the first person to really take the game seriously. There was you and two other guys. It was Rhino something. Rhino Crunch streamed it first. I streamed the day after he did, but then he quit. Who was the third guy? I honestly don't remember. There was three of you, but you were the only one that stuck to streaming. It was like me and a bunch of what they called emissaries. Because I was the emissary for the United States at the time. Our job was just to basically promote the game and just get it out there and get people to...

know about Tarkov basically. It's basically like a free PR position for them. And I did a great job marketing for them that they hired me to eventually be official public relations for them, official PR, a part of their marketing team. What happened there? There was a hiccup. Oh, what happened there? What happened? What was that?

Mr. Marine, what happened? Mr. U.S. government working with the Russian government. What was wrong with that? I was in the Marine Corps Reserve at the time, and they hired me originally to be their United States representative, so it wasn't a PR position originally.

And they're like hey, we want you to get licensing agreements for firearms for our video game. I'm like okay Sounds easy enough. They're like you're a marine. You're perfect for the job You probably be able to talk these weapon companies really well I had no idea that that was against the DoD to you know coordinate foreign agencies with domestic fire manufacturers That word right there

One more time, what was that? You're not allowed to what? The DOD what? So it is against DOD policy to be a member of the DOD and coordinate foreign agencies with domestic fire manufacturers. I did not know this! While you're in the Marine Corps Reserves. You're a spy for the Russians. Basically, you're a communist. I'm going to go spin my helicopter up right now. What was that movie with Nicolas Cage? Lord of War? Which one?

Martial treasure? He is Lord of War. Okay, can we hold the Lord of War if it's still branding it's on? Oh, that's right. But I don't know. He was...

Okay, but the thing is I never broke the law because I never actually got any... You made a deal. I never made a deal with anybody before I figured that out. So I had somebody tell me like, hey, bro, you can't do this. You're part of the DOD. And I'm like, I can't? And they're like, no, this is big no-no. Was it a Twitch chat that kicked you off? Or what gave you the...

Oh fuck! What was the moment you shit your pants? I'd never shat my pants because I know I never broke the law. I was just like, oh fuck. I was like, oh dang it. Like this could have been really bad. I just picture cleaning in a C-130 with a bunch of AKs bringing them to Russia. Like wait, what? This is illegal? Guys, we gotta turn this plane around. What's going on right now? Brandon Herrera gave me all these. The AK guy, AKG-47s.

And so I told Battlestate, I'm like, hey, this job you gave me is actually illegal in my country. I can't do that. And they're like, oh, that sucks. What about Black Arms Delivery? Are you sure? And you bring us AR-15. Please give Arrow a purse. 338 La Pua. Oh, my God.

So they at that point they're like alright We'll move you to our PR team and we'll have you do public relations and help us with like networking and marketing for Lots of game it'll be good no no transaction. No pretty take American gun sometime

You'll get schmeckles. Rupees, diamonds, you heard of Legend of Zelda? Bitcoin 700k. I don't have a lot of money right now. Rain. Rain good in Towercraft. You'll like it. Yeah, right? You'll love sound. Sound good. Everybody's really salty about Towercraft on Twitter. God, fuck that rain, dude. It's been going on for like three weeks now. Dude, the amount of... I've seen Twitter. I've been playing different video games. All the biggest streamers will not play Towercraft right now because of how long and how loud the rain is.

It's so loud, dude. You can't do anything. You can't hear things. It's just like, it sounds like you stepped into a kitchen with 400 cooks cooking bacon all at one time. Guys, I'm going to, yeah. Just screaming in your fucking ears. Actually, this next segment, I'm going to do audio. We're just going to do a little. And then I'm going to overlay the bacon going through this next conversation. Okay, Batty, I need you to head north towards the door. Can you do that?

No, I can't hear myself say that. Jonah, where are you? Help? Help? Okay, Jonah. I mean, clean. Clean. Where is your where about that? By the tree. Okay, that narrows it down. I'm going to overlay bacon noises during that entire. So you have the idea of how bad the rain is in that case.

Escape from Tarkov, again, by the way, for those of you that don't play it. Yeah, Nikita. And doesn't it, it coordinates with the rain in St. Petersburg. In the weather. In Russia. It's been raining the entire time. Super great. Love it. Super happy. It's funny that we know when it's raining in Russia because fucking Tarkov. There is a fine line between realism and fucking annoying. You want to make something as like...

It's a game! All right, dude. All I'm saying is like with the SKS and the Mosin and stuff, you should be able to just drag bullets into it when you're not in game. Instead of taking the magazine out of the fucking gun, putting the bullets in the magazine, then putting the magazine back in the gun. You're out of the game! Dude, why are you holding the choke cap?

off a fucking shotgun to load it! It's technically the magazine, guys. Shut the fuck up! It's got a goddamn tube. Why can't you right-click the tube and empty that magazine? Why do you have to pull the cap or

the tube itself to load the gun! It's not how it works! This is Tetris of first version. I'm angry. I'm so mad. I will go on the biggest canvas on this camp. On what you were saying, there's a point where realism needs to just stop. They're already getting that point. BSC's getting to the point where they're gonna be, you know, really making some major overhauls to the game and

Hopefully actually making some real changes, but they have a philosophy that they want to add things that are realistic as long as they apply towards the gameplay. Like a .338 Lapua semi-automatic fucking AR. See, what people don't realize, though, is they're actually going to switch up a lot of shit about the gun stats and mechanics, like the way the weapon resets and stuff like that. Eventually, that thing will be terrible for close quarters because you'll sprint with it. It's going to go like this, and then it's going to come back up like this.

Real slow. Where now it's just like, it's literally 200 milliseconds. It's instant. Yeah, it's instant. It's the same for every gun in the game. I don't want to tell Donut to go pick up his 300 Win Mag AR. Oh, that thing's fucking heavy, bro. Like, dear God. Like, they skipped from 5.56, 3.08,

Straight to .338 Lapua. There are so many rounds in between that that you could put into an AR platform. They're like, no, we want a .338 Lapua. One of the heaviest, fattest, most common rounds when it comes to long range. And let's make it one of the best close quarters guns in the game. It's stupid. I mean, I was saying that when they came out. Why was that not a bolt gun? I can see it being a bolt gun. Yeah.

But, I mean, it's just... Battlestate has still so much shit to do, and the game is so immensely complex, and there's so many fucking things that are interconnected. When they try and change one thing, it will break so many other things. Oh, absolutely. Especially with all the movies. I will give that game is...

It's a lot more complex because of all the moving pieces with the different types of round for a single weapon. You have like five different rounds for like a 5.56. Oh my god, how many 9x18 rounds are there? 13. And they're all pretty much the same, which is... That's one caliber. There's like three that are good...

Everything else is useless. Well, the thing is, but they all are like within the difference of like two to three points in terms of damage penetration, which is really marginal. After the first three days of a wipe, it doesn't matter. Nobody uses 9x18 unless they're just trying to meme and shoot people in the legs. And that's the thing. So you have all these little things, but then...

Then they were like, "Ah, we'll just do a 338 Lapua." And it's no different than COD. If they just patch ship faster. - I'm gonna ask you, could you put a 338 Lapua on screen right now compared to like a 556 or a 76 by 39? Like showcase the size of that. It's a big ass. - It's a fatty. - So as somebody who owns a 50 BMG,

People ask when they get a 50 BMG to Tarkov constantly. I'm like, well, there's already a 50 Cal in Tarkov because it's the... Machine gun, the mounted. The Ash-12. No, the Ash-12. Well, the Ash-12 is a 50, but it's more like a 50 Beowulf. It's more of a 50 Beowulf, 50 AE. But it's still big. Those rounds are about this big with the cartridge. They're huge. They're fucking... The difference between a 50 BMG and a 50 Beowulf...

It is... Cartridge and the length of the round. We're talking like 700 grains of gunpowder versus like 300. Yeah, it's a lot. You're talking punching fist-sized holes in your chest versus just like a poke a finger hole in your chest. We're talking about... The force behind some of these rounds, specifically a .338 Lapua. It's getting hit by a Kia versus getting hit by a train. Even then, you don't...

This is what bothers me. A lot of people will come at me like, well, there's armor out there that can stop a Lapua. Armor that will stop a 550 BMG. Yeah, but you're not going to get up. It's liquefying your insides behind that armor. That's what people don't get. They don't understand foot pounds of pressure versus penetration. It's insane to think about.

getting hit in the chest with a 50 BMG. - Well, it's like making, it's the people that also have the idea. It's like, why don't you make a t-shirt out of Kevlar? Because that's still resting against your body. - Your ribs are all broken. - That energy. - Your lungs have collapsed, sir. - Yeah, it displaces all that energy. Yes, the round. - Same thing with 12-gauge slugs. - Exactly, exactly, man. - You get hit in the chest with, even if you're wearing a level four plate, yeah, the plate's gonna stop the slug, but your sternum is going to be fractured. - It's like, oh, suddenly your insides are backwards. - Yeah.

It's gonna absolutely, it's gonna fuck you up. It's gonna suck. It's just shattered. It's gone. But then you go up to somebody in Tarkov with a 12 gauge shotgun and blast them 10 times in the chest and it does absolutely nothing to them. I hate how weak shotguns are in that game, man. Unless you shoot people in the legs. Well, actually, if you're able to identify, because me and Nikita actually went back and forth for like two weeks trying to buff shotguns with Buckshot. Nikita, by the way, is the lead developer. He's the COO. He's the chief operator. Of Escape from Tarkov. Yeah, for Battlestate Games.

And so we went back and forth for a long time about shotguns because I told them specifically like pump shotguns with buckshot are useless. They don't do anything. And what would happen when you aim at a wall like 10 meters away, the spread of the buckshot is just like, it's like all over the place. It opened up.

Eight feet! It's wild! A lot of times, this bug is still in the game, you'll literally have a perfect circle sometimes. So your point of aim is in the center, you'll literally have a circle of bugshot. It's like a perfect circle. And I'm like, why the fuck is this happening? This makes no sense. But, shotguns with bugshot are actually pretty decent. If you can see a dude without a helmet, and get within 15 meters of him, headshots, easy as fuck. One pellet hits the face, they're dead.

That's why the chaos is so good. Yep, because I will say this as much as we joke about the cast 23 shotgun that things fucking huge before it's a 6.7 one or something engage Yes, it's huge. It's a fucking two times the size of a tall game. It's a big-ass fucking shotgun. It's our like net again I'm trying to I'm literally working on getting one IRL right

Have you ever shot a 10-gauge? Who shot a 10-gauge? We used to have one. It was called the cheater gun. So I grew up shooting ski. That's how I learned how to shoot. Those, the recoil on it. Yeah, fuck your shoulder, bro. Dude, holy shit, your shoulder. I can shoot 12-gauge. When you do three-gun, you run 12-gauge all day long. Yep, 12-gauge, right on it.

10 gauge is the only time I remember filming for the TV show and I had to shoot the blanks for the 10 gauge. Now, blanks are what suck because you're stuffing the end of it and you're shooting so you have a lot of fucking recoil. That is the only time in a gun where they were like, oh, we only have like 20 more takes and I'm like,

Okay, can we not fucking that do it in the next five and they're like is it bad like I remember pulling my shirt down and it was just black and they're like, holy Fuck bro. I was like, this is not feel good Ever period I was like, please somebody else just try to shoot it. I remember one of the dudes He was like it can't be like he was like

Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, Eli, we need to get this on these takes that we're doing and not just be wasting takes. My shoulder's dislocated right now. If we just pop her back in, I got one shot. That's a huge shotgun. Six gauge. Six gauge.

It's like a 6.21 or whatever, 7.1 gauge in American. It's used by FSB units just to clear houses and shit. We need to blow a hole in the door and the door behind it. This is if there's like elephant terrorists. Yeah. Big giant terrorists. Titan terrorists. These elephants work for us. We gotta kill this family of elephants.

It was one shot. It's a nutty little shock and I think they developed it in the 80s. I don't know if they really use it anymore but they have it and they add it to the game and you know just basically one shots the legs which I mean honestly it should like it absolutely should. It should do that and people hate it because they're like oh Ria I have a five million ruble kit and this guy killed me with a hundred thousand ruble

Stop letting him so close, bro. Yeah, stop letting that guy get close and stop being so garbage. We murder people with that so much. Oh, my God. It's easy. Batty got me into it. I'm like, this is so fun. Dead, dead, dead. I wiped a team. That's also a huge problem with the game. You invest all this money in gear and armor, and then you have some guy with a Mosin who just kind of claps you. A lot of the people who get upset about that, they kind of hide behind their gear, and they don't really realize. They're skill behind.

- Yeah, well that's because Tarkov's the type of game where it's like if you have the better armor, better ammo, better helmet, you're going to win a majority of the game. - For most smaller caliber rounds, you're gonna win. - You're inherently better at the game right there. But if you have a good player who has less, you can outsmart people and win. I got second place in Doc's tournament using nothing but the Mosin. The goal was to make as much money as possible. Okay.

Mosin. That's it? All I did was I fucking killed people. I looted and sold everything. And I got second place for using nothing but a Mosin. It was the most boring thing I've ever done in my life. I love the Mosin. That's my dream. Actually, I take that back. I've done some really boring shit before. One of my favorite clips of you, though, I remember you were on reserve and you were in the train station and there was a guy with a fucking giant fat kit. Several million dollars. And you had a pistol and he just

turned and sat there for a second and you had a little 9mm pistol. Yeah, he had a visor on. You hit him in the ear. Yeah, and he had contacts and I'm like, oh, his ears are open. I'm like,

One 9mm shot. And you had a giant kit after that. I mean, that's the thing about Tarkov. The game is all about information, not really raw skill. You've got to pay attention. Yeah, you've got to pay attention to shit. It's all about the information, and it's how you use that information to your advantage. I mean, yeah, there's raw skill, but out of all of the games out there, Tarkov, in terms of actual gameplay, is one of the easiest FPS games out there. The game carries you so much.

People don't really realize they get very intimidated by all the information all the gear and all this stuff But it's like you get a gun with all recoil six year on mag and some decent armor especially sound you can literally yeah As long as you're listening. Yeah, I sound hard like crazy in that game But like it's an easy fucking game to play the recoil is less than Call of Duty and the recall is non-existent Yeah, especially have initial burst

And once you get through that first quick quarter second, it's flat. You know, honestly, like, the vectors, everybody's using the vector right now, right? Oh, my God. It's so nasty. I keep seeing all of these highlights of these dudes, like, oh, my God, this guy's so sick looking at me. He has a 50-round vector just melting people. I'm like, that's not cool. Like, he is using the easiest gun in the game. It's the easiest thing in the game. It doesn't, like, it's not, like...

It's like people are like jerking themselves off like, oh man, I'm so fucking good. And people are jerking off the streamers who look how good he is. And it's just like, bro, he's using nothing but the best in slot gear that makes the game easy as fuck to use. Yeah, that Willer's guy. It's so easy. And it's just like...

Fuck the landmark. A good transition to Willers and why we hate him. Fucking Willers. We were watching that clip last night. Was it where Willers jumped off the roof and killed a four man? Yeah. Heavy four man. Yeah, yeah. In the dorms window, right? Yeah. Just shot him through the window. Because he plays it like Call of Duty. Yeah, well, because you can. You can play the game. Once you figure it out, like that's... Because the game's advantage is desync. You move faster. The game's netcode is garbage. Since you literally move so fast in that game, the...

There's zero inertia. So you can strafe like this and because the game's net code is absolute shit, you only see people for like 100 milliseconds. Like there's a guy, okay, he's gone. He went back around the corner. And he's already killed you. Yeah, and he's already fucking killed you. Because he saw you standing still at the end of a hallway for a second while he bobble peeked somebody. Yeah, he bobble peeks you or they stutter step on you and they peek to the advantage and they win. That's why I play so aggressive when I run the KS-23 as a meme now because it's so much fun to go against the most geared players with a shitty shot. I didn't say shitty.

the best shotgun in the game. And I'll just sprint at motherfuckers with a shotgun, rip their legs off. Even more so when it's a full team. Because they only hear their own teammates. I really, we need to get together and make a skit of Tarkov of the expectations of reality of what Tarkov expectations are. Dude, could you imagine trying to Jailpeak somebody IRL? No, it would be so funny because I can already imagine walking through a field and we're all tactical with our guns and shit looking around, patrolling properly and then you've just got bunny hopping and you just

Daddy pops out screaming with a shotgun. Yeah, just jump it around. It looks so ridiculous. It would be good content. We're going to tango north and then you're all dead from a shotgun blast to the leg. It's just like the game labels itself as this hardcore realistic shooter, but that's not how it's played. I know the developers though...

They wanted the best. They're trying. Yeah, they want it to be the best, but like they... You can have idiots like us. Yeah. They're going to break the game. Yeah. The thing is, is like, I know Nikita, like when he watches, say, Will or like Landmark or any of these like, you know, Chad streamers play the game. I know he doesn't like it. He looks at that. That's not what they want. He's told me that person. He's like, yeah, he's like, I don't like it. I don't like that this is the way people are playing the game. And he's like, this is our fault.

It's because it's the way we designed it. It's hard to develop a game. Those skills are brutal in Targa. Yeah, they're fucking broken. They're so good. You literally play the game more. You're in... Again, you...

I hate the fact with Tarkov, even though I'm trying to be an MMO, and with MMOs, if you dedicate time, you should get the benefits of putting in that time. You should be able to benefit from the grind. However, with Tarkov, because it's an FPS game, you play the game more, and you're good at the game already. The game carries you even more with these skills and with the better in slot gear. Again, like beginning of a wipe happens. Usually these streamers, most of the time, they'll get level five armor, level five helmet, and then they just do not

die for like a week. We just steamroll. Yeah, they don't die for a week because they know where to get the best gear, they know where to get the good ammo, and they just shit on everybody with their macros and handguns and people are like, oh my god, he's so good looking at him. I'm like, no, look at his ult advisor. He got shot in the face 15 times. He would be dead if he had any other piece of gear on, but that armor is carrying his ass right now. We get there quick because we play more. How do you balance that though? Well, I mean, it's really easy. You just don't spawn that shit at the beginning of the wipe. Literally like

No level five or six armor the traders no level five or six arm responds in the game at all Yeah, none of that spawns none of it is acquireable until 30 days into a wipe then once it's 30 days into wipe then you slowly Add it to the traders you slowly add it to the loot economy and then it slowly filters into the game over time so that way like Beginning of wife happens first 30 days. The best thing you can find is level four armor level four helmet. That's it. I

Slow things down. Slow down progression massively. A wipe, by the way, is they completely delete your character every couple months to make it fair for everyone. I would say every month. It's like every six to... Every couple months. What, nine months? It's two to three wipes a year, maybe. I'd say two a year. People start building up this super chat, amazing gear, and then they just delete your character entirely and everyone starts over at zero.

But that's when the game is the most fun. You actually need shit. You actually are going against not people running the same gear every fucking raid with the same ammo. That's what it is right now. Early Wipe is the greatest gameplay in Tarkov. I love it. It's awesome. It's awesome when you find a gun or some barter goods or whatever and you're like, oh, this is sweet. And then late Wipe, you're like...

It doesn't matter throwing away M4s and shit. I think that's why iRacing is a good example of this. You have your different leagues that you can race in, but my favorite leagues were the ones where you couldn't customize your vehicle.

Everyone had the exact same car layout across the board, so it's all skill-based at that point. There's no like, oh, my car's set up better. Because you'd have the cars, and when you got more in-depth with those, that's when you're like, suspension, toe angle. So everyone's like, oh, the mechanics really know how to tweak that to the best of their ability.

their abilities. But when you have just everyone has to drive the same car, that is when it's like... Now it's the driver that matters. Exactly. And those are the best races because everyone is just... Everybody has an even playing field and that's the problem with Tarkov is because you got the people like me or Landmark or Will or even Batty

like we just we've been playing the game for so long like we know immediately where to go to get the gear we know immediately what to do like to get the good stuff like I intentionally the first 30 days of the life didn't use like level 5 or 6 armor at all just because like I wanted to feel like I was threatened because I knew I could go into the raids and run around with the best gear and

Not die, basically. But I didn't because I want to kind of be scared for my life. I think that's kind of fun. That's exciting. I agree with you 100%. It's the positive and negative emotions. It's not just like, oh, I'm always going to win. You know what I mean? It's exciting knowing that there's a possible chance of loss. And Tarkov is just one of those games where it's gotten so popular. I remember streaming that game to 100 people.

for months. Yep. Just 120, 130 people. He's a clean up guy. Yeah, man. That's why I started. It's one of the biggest games on Twitch now. Well, not even on Twitch, the gaming industry. It's one of the biggest games. Everybody knows what Tarkov is. Most people who play games now have heard of Escape from Tarkov one way or the other. Oh, yeah. Guaranteed. I mean, this year alone has made it

a staple in the shooter, the FPS genre. I honestly, I'm really looking forward to this year because I know how much of an impact... I'm sorry, I should have said 2020 last year. Yeah, well, yeah, but the same thing. I mean, this year, the Drops event this year and all that, like, they hit 300,000 co-current players and all that, you know. Every time they release a major update, they break it, or they break their records. But...

I'm really excited for this year though in terms of games because of Tarkov having an impact I'm really excited for new FPS games coming out the new battlefield coming out a lot of other tactical shooters that I know have been paying attention to be like Oh Tarkov, what's this game doing? I'm waiting for somebody to make a legitimate competitor and copycat to Tarkov a competitor Tarkov That's what I want. That's what a lot of people want. That's what a lot of people want though They want that because Tarkov, you know, we love that game to death and

It's got its flaws. It's got its flaws. You can't be competitive. Yeah. No, but that's the thing. People make it a competition. I literally like, I love Landmark. He's a good dude. I've never had anybody ask me how many PMC kills I have until that fucker started putting that shit in his title. Literally, I've never, for four years, I've been playing Tarkov. I've never had, hey, Cleen, how many PMC kills you got? It's because they just want to compare me.

They compare streamers. Thank you for the raid, Tony. They compare KD. They do all this shit and they jerk themselves off. Donut killed you, Tony? I did. I did kill you in dorms, second floor with a VSS. But thank you for the raid the other day, Tony. There always should be a PMC killed one.

Landmark. That's it. Everyone. That's it. Everyone. Oh, shit. Jesus Christ. God damn it. But if people turn it into a competition, it upsets me a bit just because Tarkov to me is like a hardcore survival game where you're trying to tear it out of the survival category and make it the next Call of Duty. Exactly. People just want to see Twitch fast-paced action. Whenever they change the game to slow things down, to make it like an actual hardcore immersive realistic shooter, people cry about it. Like when the wait system first came in. Oh, my God.

Oh my god, people- I loved the weight system and they fucking slowly tearing it back. It was so punishing. Yeah! Because it was so punishing, you couldn't bring in 560 round mats. It's like motherfuckers didn't understand what it was like to carry a hundred fucking kilos of gear. Yeah. Like fuck you! I should be able to run around and jump. If you're bunny hopping across the field sprinting for ten minutes straight, fuck your ass! You've never done that! You've never done that before. That shit's not fun, man! People bringing in a thick case.

Dude, right? In their backpack? Cases and bags? Fuck that shit. But they'll say like, oh, it's a video game. It's a video game. It's like, no, like, yes, of course it's a fucking video game, you retard. But they're trying to give you an immersive experience so that we can get sucked into what it's like to be in a real battle situation. BSG has said this many times. They want people to kind of suffer and not have that much fun because real war isn't fucking fun if you've actually ever deployed. Weird. Eli. Weird.

You have a purple heart, right? I was bunny hopping all over. Okay, that's what I thought. Queen, shut the fuck up. I was like, IED, boom, boom, boom. We have three soldiers here who never deployed. Eli's seen combat. And Eli, he's full of shit. Yeah. Eli had a thick case in his backpack. That's what I walked in. He had as many HP that weighs eight kilos. You know what I mean? I was peeking real quick. Jiggle. Jiggle peeking. Terrorists. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. That's enough of that.

That's the end of the podcast today. We got to cut it. That's it? That's it. That was a good one. That was a solid one. That was a... I can't wait to just mute clean the entire time. I'm so sick of hearing him. Be here!

Beep. He lives in Colorado, Oregon. Everything's okay. Go follow the podcast on YouTube. No, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay, clean. Where can we find you? Oh, it's good. It's way better. You can find me as clean as clean. K-L-E-A-N-I-S-K-L-E-A-N on Twitter and Instagram as well as twitch.tv forward slash clean. Beep.

Clean with a K. Look it up. Not actually clean with a K, because when I say that, people are like, you mean actually clean with a K? That's the whole name? No, motherfucker. The word clean, but instead of a C, it's a K. People are dumb. People will actually do that. C-L-E-A-W-I-T-H with a K.

K. Clean, but instead of a C, it's a K. Figure it the fuck out. It's Steven with a P, okay? Oh, bro, I have that struggle all the time with my name, because my name is Stefan. And people are like, how do you spell it? Is it like Stefan or Stefan? Can I tell you Stefan from now on? I like Stefan. Stefan. I actually tell girls my name is Stefan sometimes. Oh, I mean, absolutely, you

You have the hair of a Stefan. You have Stefan hair if I've ever seen it. And it's really sad that my name's Stefan after one of my dad's ex-girlfriends because his girlfriend was named Stephanie.

You got a girl's name, bro. My dad told me that. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. We're going to save this for another podcast. We can't let everybody know why his name is named. Why he's named after one of his dad's ex-girlfriends. On that bottom shelf. Batty streams at batty streams. Eli double fap. And then. Donut. Baba weba. Baba weba. Thank you so much for this episode. We're going to. Next time. Maybe. I don't know. We'll see. I love you. Stitcher. Podbean. Castro. All.

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