73 - TWITCH SCANDALS ft. Klean
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And that's where the you come that is come subscribe. I just want to see what the fucking red one is Hold on. Well, give me a red. Wait, what's the cherry? It's cherry. No, I want the cherry bro strawberry strawberry You got to do a cherry the white one. It looks like a shot of cum. Here you go I got this shit. This is exactly what I'll do the cum shot

Are we doing a three cummies well it cleans not but I'll do one for Clemson is like standards With y'all does this count oh? Yeah, you're back splatter

Wait, oh, oh, it's so jizzy. It is. Look at it. Look at it. We're doing jello shots right now. That's what we're calling it. Jello. This is jello shot. Yeah. Clean brought up with a special recipe. Joe is not here and we do cum shots finally. It smells like hairspray. It does. Dude, no smell. It's hairspray.

Straight up actually yeah, I got this actually bro. What the fuck? Little hair spray that is went into a cheers cheers about the cheers cheers guys. Yeah, I'm gonna hairspray for life. I mean I love haircuts It tastes like hairspray That was better than the Tito shot we did last 100% I don't know what about the Tito's we drink looks like you're in a little bit of pain honestly like Get the dribbles out of the cup you I don't leave the dribbles. I'm sorry I

If you if you put your finger in it you can get the last it looks just like come that's fucked up. Oh, it tastes like fucking hairspray

That is a very much hairspray. What's the blue one tastes like are we just doing this? Yeah, are we doing a taster? Are you sure you know I'm good. No, thanks. I am Look it's not come because it doesn't string See this is how you know, it's not the real stuff guys is disappointing flood punch in put on epic music

Oh god, it's everywhere. It's all over me. Oh, yeah, I gotta do blue blue doesn't smell like hairspray You know you should just get a shirt made that's come and just put a little logo on there Okay, it does you're right. I think that's the vodka that smells like hairspray. It's probably just the shitty It's probably like the shittiest vodka like

Where does this come from? I got drunk and ordered three tubs of Jell-O shots. But from where? I love how it just says vodka with natural and artificial flavors and artificial colors that are approved. They're approved. They're approved. How can they sell alcohol over? So you buy it online and it goes to a service that then delivers it to your door, but you have to sign for it. Which is weird because I didn't get ID'd. I also don't look like a fucking child. The tattoos and beard are kind of

Like sir, we're gonna need to see an ID. We're gonna need to see an ID. That beard fake? You look like a child. I read on Tarkov the beard was artificial. Okay, one last trip. We're drinking and I gotta open it. Wait, I mean, we opened up a... It just slides in there so smooth. Dude, it's like I'm eating hairspray. They're starting to taste better every one I drink. You're just building up a tolerance to hairspray. Our hair goes like... It turns into JoJo hair, dude. I'm like, oh my god. Wow. Wait.

Hell yeah. Oh, and then bugs in the house. Hi everyone, welcome to the unsubscribed podcast. Fucking hate you. Fucked me up. Today, I'm joined by Eli Bubblebath and our good, best, beautiful, water cool. Blean. Part of the team.

I just came up with that. You should be a rapper. You should just need to make a label now and start rapping. I am Batty Reams. Batty Screams. Batty Screams. There it is. Batty Screams. Honestly, I'm really mad I didn't think of that sooner. Also loves cum shots. Batty Cum Shots. You know, it wasn't bad. It wasn't good. That's how I like my product to be described.

Ever want something not bad? It's not that great either. But look, dude, they're red, white, and blue slurp shots. There's a lot of R's on that slurp. It was fucking hairspray. Celebrate America with hairspray. What better way to celebrate your independence than some cum jello shots? I guarantee this is made in China. I didn't. Wait, where is this made? Don't ask questions. Probably not in America.

That's what's where is Product of China does it say that yeah imported by slurp. I really wish you wouldn't read that Now we know how China infiltrated the United States Oh

Savannah for them. I haven't had a Whataburger and I don't fast food in general. I just can't fucking have yeah I definitely did have a burger last night I took two bites and I was just like okay. That's enough. Did you shake my stomachs just like bro? What the fuck? Dude motherfucker. What did you do to me dude? I have a Whataburger for shooting out my chest. I was like oh

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You like that citrus smell. I do. Citrus is nice. I like it. It doesn't match my body type. It's not a nice, sour ginger. I get it. Exactly. It's the orange. I'm attracted to orange things. I get it. It doesn't work with my body type. I'm like a sandalwood or... Mexican? You are on a highway picking oranges and selling them to me. This is your...

This is your scent. Smooth operator is you. Go purchase smooth operator today. My cousin makes it. Hey, hi everyone. I know, I just, I'm trying to get the energy. I was like doing other stuff and it's like, boom. Energy, jello shots. You're going again? Jesus. I'm going to do a third one at some point because I got to do the red and white. Might as well just get it over with. Yeah, just load it up. I'm going to work it up. I'm not going to.

I got a lot of complaining to do today and I don't I want to be able to coherently speak about my complaining you know what I mean I don't want to be a twig. Batty's going on another woman tangent. Typical Batty. Batty why do you hate him so much I'm just going to complain for an hour about that. You just bitch for an hour like wow this podcast changed drastically. Twitch was a woman.

If there's this woman hypothetically named Twitch. Named Twitch. I would have dumped her a long time ago. She's a bitch. She's very bipolar. She takes your money and takes you for granted. What are we allowed to discuss and not discuss? We're going all in. There's no guidelines or TOS. We're going all in on this stuff. We can talk about everything. There's no reason not to. Fuck yeah. I really have no...

Milk in this fight. I don't think that's the staying milk Come in this fight. Yeah, I'm coming this way. I just put my hand in that You're worried about you wiping it on you when you just drink that shit My skin but I'll drink it's like it on my come on. Maybe you can come in my mouth Oh

Just inside you oh my god Guys twitch fucked up. Yeah, they've been fucking up big time so tonight at 10 I'm glad we got clean on today because I wanted to talk about this and cleans the other big streamer out here in our little group of idiots and recently twitch

Came out and made everybody angry like you know the fucking meme from Fallout 4 like everybody did everybody just like that Yeah, everybody literally just like that except for like their CEO. We like I know man that strategy meeting I already know how it went to it's like no one will care release it at 3:00 in the morning Make sure everyone's asleep. All right

Alright, so let's- we gotta give a little context first, cause people, like, are listening or- They're like, "What's a Twitch?" Exactly. I actually remember- My grandpa has those. I remember when I went to my gun store back in Oregon, and they had arranged I wanted to start doing range streams, I was like, "Hey, like, I stream on Twitch, like, blah blah blah." You're a tweaker? He's like, "A Twitch?" He's like, "Is that a fucking drug?" He's like, "Just don't shoot people here, like-"

But, I don't know, it just made me think of that. I don't care what you do on your own time, sir. If you want to twitch on your own time, just don't do it here. Yeah, and not in front of the children. What do you mean you're twitching? Are you twitching? Are you okay? Didn't you see a doctor about your twitchings? Okay, Michael J. Fox, come here. So, the way Twitch... Holy shit! I love those jokes that take a second. It's like, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click

Fucking a man so on Twitch the way most of us make money or with the way you start out by making money Whatever you want to call it is through subscriptions kind of like on YouTube subs are different than twitch subs YouTube sub is a is free That's like a follow on Twitch, but you can pay $4.99 for a subscription to a streamer so you don't get any ads and

That's kind of like the appeal of twitch you help support us We make money and you don't have to watch ads you also get little fucking Emotes and alerts and crazy things happen in the channel when you sub Normally twitch offers 50/50 sub split meaning of that $5 the streamer gets 250 and then the government takes a dollar Take a lot more and then twitch will take 250 so 50/50 cuz we're in this together and

We love our creators and we support them. Without our creators, we would be nothing. And it's kind of been like an unspoken thing where after like a goal for most Twitch partners, which, you know, when you become verified on Twitch, you become a Twitch partner.

And it's kind of like a goal for everybody to get to a higher sub revenue split Which is you you're supposed to acquire 500 individual subscribers that are not prime subs nor gifted and then you get a 70/30 split from that 50/50 Yep, or 60/40 and I just recently found out 80/20 was a thing. Yeah, there's also 90/10s for some people I'm sure the 90/10s. Yeah the biggest I didn't know that's that's for like that's like Homeboy at fucking twitch is fucking somebody at twitch or something. It's crazy shit, man. Oh

It's totally worth. But super worth. I mean, you make a lot of money. Like, I wish I got a 90-10 split on my subs. Holy fuck. I mean, the fact that, like, I know I had the 70-30. I've been on that for a while. A year and whatever. Six years for me. Fuck yeah, bro.

And like that was a lot of work to get to that point like you had to grind your ass on the ground to get to that point really like the next level yeah, so like for me I started streaming in Like December of 2016 like really took it seriously in 2017 like the beginning of the year I was the last wave of partners under og twitch requirements which were yet I mean 450 to 550 viewers for 60 days straight no breaks and

Then you got partnered and the only way you made revenue was subscriptions and PayPal donations. That was it. There's no bits. There's no prime. Oh, yeah. There was none. Yeah, it was before affiliate is before everything. And I did that my first two and a half months streaming, which is pretty unheard of. But that's when like I was first streaming Tarkov and first Tarkov had just opened. There's like you and a couple of the guys like 15 of us that had our NDAs lifted. I'm the only one who really took it seriously. Yeah. And

And so then like once you got partnered, you had to get 500 individual subs and then that's when you got your 70-30 split. But you had to maintain 500 subs, I think for a month or two months

Throughout and then then you could get the split and then after your rep would come to me like hey you or you would apply Yeah, usually if you when that will back then when you got partnered you immediate everybody had a rap every no shit every partner had I know that it was a much smaller community as much as much smaller back there You know the partner number of partners back when you first got partnered. I have no idea but that again like I said this Yeah, this was like back when I got partnered if you had 500 viewers you are a big fucking stream. Yeah, I

The most views on Twitch were like 10, 15,000. Like that was like the biggest. Yeah. I remember watching shroud being like, dude, he's got over fucking 15,000 views. And that was, that was like, Holy fuck. People breaking 10,000. I remember when people were breaking 10,000. That was fucking. It was a big deal back then. But it was just what? 2017, 2016, 2017. Yeah. Give or take. And, uh, uh,

And then, you know, once Amazon came into the picture and they had the affiliate program and then like a lot of people started getting into Twitch because they opened up the accessibility for people to essentially grow. There's a lot more tools now than there was back then. So much. And it that's when everything just started growing. And then COVID happened. And that's when Twitch really fucking exponentially because everybody couldn't leave their fucking house. They're inside. They're playing video games, ordering fucking DoorDash and shit. Everyone was watching Twitch streams. Yeah.

- Yeah, that's when Will blew up a lot. That's when I got a lot of growth. - I mean, that's when we did it for me. - Yeah, pretty much everybody on Twitch grew. - COVID literally made me a fucking streamer. - Yeah, so going back to the split though, that was a goal for most streamers 'cause that's 20% more revenue off your subs. And back then, that was the only source of revenue besides PayPal.

And like, that's a big fucking deal because like a 500 viewer streamer, like those guys make most of the money from like their whales and the individual subscribers and they don't really get that many sponsored offers. But once you kind of get to the point where if you're getting like two, three, 4,000 viewers, you're making more money off of sponsorship deals than you are your subs and donations. Even though you do make a lot,

Those sponsorships really like start to they yeah, it exponentially explodes man. It's getting like 500 600 bucks for a sponsor stream You're talking thousands typically your CCB is usually the indicator for most companies on how much you get paid So like for me, I maintain like 1200 viewers. So if I was gonna get paid for a sponsor, they pay me 2400 Double your CC below that like I've stopped taking offers now at this point for the most part just because I

I'm in that weird middle ground where people are still like oh we'll offer you a dollar or just under a dollar for ccv and i'm like fuck off yeah that's insane yeah so like that that's kind of like where the like once you start growing when you're cleaning sizes you start getting double triple your ccv for sponsorship deals versus under that one viewer equals one dollar thing that's that's where like subscribers are huge for most of those people because now like uh i think

Like myself, I'm like top 500 US. Yeah. In the United States. Yeah. Like that's... And there's a lot of fucking streamers. There's like thousands of fucking partners. Oh, yeah. And for guys like Batty, like you make most of your revenue from subscribers and people who donate and people who support you. And so like people like you...

And there's a lot of people like you who get fucking hit hard by this new split because after you've made $100,000 from subs, then you have a 50-50 split after that. So if you have, you usually maintain like 4,000 to 5,000 subs, which is well over $100,000 a year just from scriptures alone. Absolutely. You're now taking like,

a 20% pay cut. It's like getting a set, like working your ass off for a promotion, getting that salary. And then like eight months into the year, they're like, Oh yeah, your salary. Nevermind. Here's a new one. They take it away. And that's like, think of it like this. You now you make your first hundred grand. You make another additional hundred grand. Twitch usually took $1,000,

Twisted 30 grand from that. You made 70 grand. Now, after that next 100, they're like, oh no, we're taking 50,000 this time. You did the exact same amount of work. We did nothing else other than made you work harder. We're taking more of your revenue. And I think the reason why they have that is because they are offering a lot of money for the ad incentive program right now. So if you get over 1,000 viewers, you can stream 150 to maybe 200 hours a month, depending on your offer, and you'll make 15K on ads alone outside of everything else.

Problem is most people don't have that's true once you you have to hit about a thousand viewers on average in order to start getting that margin and which is 100 viewer your 200 to 200 viewer partners That's our getting row 200 to 400 dollars a month. Yeah, that's it's it's fucking nothing. It's just not worth it That's where the sub hits these guys so hard and these guys, you know, they're like they like I got good numbers. I'm

on my low end getting a thousand a month yeah like my best one was like 37 and that was me pumping so many ads what like six five minutes an hour seven minutes i haven't i haven't even gotten an offer for that yet the most i've had is six minutes genicles uh and on another tarkov streamer awesome kind of creator um she had an offer like her offers were like nine eight and seven minutes

Nine minutes of ads dude and like that's all that's gonna do is push more people away from the platform It's not like again like I think the way that a lot of the twitch execs see it is they're like oh if okay if we start pumping these ads down their fucking throat it'll make people want to sub to the streamer so they don't see ads but it's like there's also twitch turbo which they never advertise which is nine dollars a month you subscribe to twitch and you don't see ads on

any channel. It's YouTube Red or YouTube Premium. And that's why it's worth it. The thing is, they don't fucking advertise it. If you have to find it, you actually have to Google it. Specifically, there's no easy way to go to the main page and find Twitch Turbo. You literally have to Google Twitch Turbo and it takes you to a page. They really kind of hide it and they don't want a lot of people to know about it. Of course. It's going to go away. Yeah.

It probably will be. I mean, Twitch Turbo has been around since I started. It's been around for a long, long time. But ads were a lot different back then. They weren't playing them as much. They weren't mid-rolls, pre-rolls. But, okay, so just to summarize and figure out where the fuck we're at right now. So Twitch came out with a big...

Simmer. I'm angry at Twitch too. I'm angry. I'm angry. Dude, Twitch came out with a big press release basically. They released it at 3 in the morning local time. So California 3 a.m. or East Coast 5 a.m. And they're like, hey, we know all of you smaller partners have been grinding and pushing for this 70-30 split. This next level, the promotion. The only reason to really try a lot harder other than your own well-being, which don't get me wrong. We all work. We all want a promotion. We all want it. That doesn't matter what your job is. Yep.

And they're like, yeah, we're never going to do that for anybody again. That's done. That's gone. Nobody's getting a 70-30 split. And if you already are contracted with a 70-30 split, so people like me and Clean who have already done that work, after you make your first $100,000, you're now no longer getting that 70-30 split and you're dropping down. You may be like, well, that's a lot of money. Why are you complaining? Well, because I worked my fucking ass off to get where I am and to suddenly have my salary, if you will. Granted, we're all contractors or subcontractors.

To have that cut fucking sucks. Yeah, it's a big cut. It's just a bit disheartening just because like you said, a lot of those guys who've been working for that, they've been trying to get it and now they know there's just no chance in hell that they're ever going to get it. It just kind of sucks because it's just like a low blow because again, if a bunch of people walked out on Twitch and just stopped streaming, the platform would die. Absolutely. It would die.

And they've been working in the red. And if you guys don't know what that means, essentially when a company works in the red, they're losing money rather than profiting money. They've been working in the red for, I want to say two to three years now. It's been a while. Yeah. Yeah. And for whatever reason, Amazon just doesn't really care.

Well, they own the live space. Yeah. It's a weird one when you're like working in the red. A lot of companies will project, hey, we're in the red because business reasons. That's what companies do. Yeah. And then because YouTube, they didn't like for fucking a decade and a half. They're like, now we're in the red. We don't make money.

YouTube ain't struggling. - Yeah, no, it's true. YouTube's much better off. I mean, YouTube really could come in and swoop in the whole live streaming space, but they just don't have the tools yet. They don't have the discoverability yet. - The discoverability, yeah. - They could get there, but it's gonna take a lot more work. - Well, it's what you design the app off of or the program when you initially start it. You go to Twitch to watch video games. It's like Facebook gaming or Facebook streaming. No one fucking cared because Facebook was meant for old people or checking on family.

That's about it. So that's what I would go to Facebook. Twitch, watch my buddies. Yeah, game, game, game. YouTube, watch fucking videos. I'm not going in. I don't like watching live streams on YouTube. For whatever reason, I have a weird dissonance. I think that's a lot of people. It's just that the live stream experience is not the same. Twitch has just been doing it for so long. It's very authentic, and they just have a formula that no other platform has managed to recreate yet. Probably.

Yeah, for sure. And then you have, I mean, even look at Instagram right now has decided not to be pictures anymore. It's TikTok 2.0. Yeah, it's like Reels. It's awful. I hate Instagram right now is the worst. They're like TikTok 2.0.

And that and we'll mix it together. Pictures don't do good here. Do this instead and you get to watch. We just got shitty fucking reels. And then the pay on the reels pays the worst pay you up. Oh, you got a million views. Here's 20 bucks. 11 million views for twelve hundred dollars.

YouTube money if you got 11 million views like what? Yeah, it's like a hundred grand. Yeah Depending on how many ads you run The most annoying shit about this like Instagram tick-tock real shit is now I see a lot of companies like you know who the fuck you are They will now take a photo turn that photo into a video and post the photo So it's like a four second long photo so it shows up for real. I fucking hate it I hate it so god damn much. It does work it

That's literally why they're doing it is because it fucking works and they're like, okay, well, they're trying to push the real algorithm too. So it's going to, it's going to catch once they get enough, you know, content out there. Eventually the algorithm is going to pick it up and say, we're going to take a photo platform, turn it into Tik TOK poorly.

And not reward anybody for it. I will say reels, if you're not shadow banned or is the craziest watching like Savs reels on how those work is just like, hey, the video is still growing because when that one video would do the fart one is like 200,000. Yeah. She's like, oh, it's still growing on Instagram. That was going to we knew that was going to be the lowest platform for the 900,000. You know, you post a reel or a video two days. It usually disappears. It appears out. Yeah. If you're not shadow banned and you have like just.

Like what she does where it's that half half I've shown you guys like you get to see how the split is on followers versus non followers that look at your stuff.

Ours I guarantee clean you probably are the same because you post gun stuff I post the thing is my Instagram like I post maybe like once a month. I'm really bad at Instagram I just like hey, I got a gun or here's me shooting a gun. Yeah, I don't really take it that seriously But you get like Brandon and those guys and you just get to see this and if I can mine It's a sliver where it's like hey, here's your literally 2% non followers. Well, yeah, it hardly gets out there Yeah, so half your followers don't get fight Yeah

half half non-followers will follow she's like yeah if i do a hashtag it will bring in like 20 000 more eyes onto i'm like if i do a hashtag it'll be like 100 people yeah yeah it's like they obviously have like certain people listed like you said a shadow ban where it's just like oh this person we don't want a lot of people seeing this so we're gonna like you know kind of pull them out of the algorithm and i've dealt with that with spotify in the past i actually uh

Owned one of the biggest low-fi playlist. I think I told you guys about this but For for the viewers who don't know what I'm talking about It was called low-fi chill hop and I listened to it all the time on Twitch and I would get emails from Producers who are like hey, I found your playlist like could it get some promotion and I didn't charge them anything I'd be like hey if I like your music because I listen to this for myself and my viewers I'll put you on my track why I started doing baddie radio. Yeah, I'm straight up Spotify custom playlist. Yeah, so

- Same thing. - It's awesome. And so I remember this record label wanted to buy my playlist off me when it was at 130,000 followers. They offered me like 40K and I told them, "No, I'm good." Because like, it felt really good knowing that I could give producers free promotion and literally give these guys careers. Like I've actually gotten lo-fi producers. Like they're legitimately like three, 400,000 like monthly listeners now. And they started off of my playlist. And after I refused this record label, I'm like, "No, I'm not gonna sell it to you." Like, I like doing this 'cause it makes me feel good. And I like helping people. - Made him hangry.

Oh yeah, no, these guys got fucking pissed and like they were like emailing me like you need to sell to us this now I'm like no like fuck you like I'm not giving you my playlist and so they started making all these bot accounts and reporting the playlist and then what it would do whenever like you can literally a non verified account can report any playlist and say oh this is sexual or racist or blah blah blah it removes the image the cover the cover image the description and the title and

Completely and it just deletes it all so when you see your follower Playlist it just shows up as a blank space And you don't know what it is and what that did after enough times completely unplug me from the algorithm I would grow three to five hundred followers a day on that playlist without promoting it at all it just grew on its own like the algorithm took it and just fucking skyrocketed it and

I got fucking sick of dealing with it because I'm like, fuck, these fuckers just keep reporting me and Spotify just isn't doing shit. I eventually gave it to a high school friend of mine who happened to be a lo-fi producer. I'm like, here, take my playlist, use it to make a label. And he has a label now it's called Kyoto sound, which is great. And he makes like cool lo-fi tracks and stuff. But what's funny is like, since I gave him the playlist, it's been stuck at 138,000 followers and has not like gone over 140 K in like two or three years, just because it's completely out of the algorithm. And a lot of companies have these back

and doors where they can be like oh let's just pull this out let's pull this out he can't get in this algorithm here and like they do this on purpose because like let's be honest a lot of people are fucking shady in these corporate businesses they do things to line their pockets yeah i don't know what you're talking yeah it's just a bunch of conspiracies it's a bunch of conspiracies corporations are great they're so nice love them they're people too yeah man it's just it's it's fucked up and i mean i i feel like especially after covid like a lot of people kind of woke up

Do a lot of like oh fuck people aren't actually looking out for me. Oh these corporations don't give a fuck about me Oh, the government doesn't really care about me either and like people are like hmm. This shit smells like shit So crazy man. Yeah

- Yay Twitch. - Dude. - Going to the way of shittiness. - And Twitch is kind of taking that route as well. I mean, but the thing is though, I've never felt like I have ever been shadow banned on Twitch. Even though I do gun stuff, I'm very open about my political beliefs. I'm not a political streamer, but I like to let people know, look, if you watch me, I am influencing you whether you think it or not.

If you choose to spend time watching my stream and you spend time here, you are going to get influenced by me. And I let them know like, hey, this is what I think about this, what I think about this, just so that you know who the fuck I am. So you know who you're spending your time and attention to. Because when you pay attention to someone, that is currency. Your time is currency. Your focus is currency. Your time is your most...

So like I like to be very open about who I am so that people know who they're paying their attention to yep And I've alienated a lot of people from my content just because I don't know if I agree with them like I don't care But if you can disagree with me and still hang out and watch my stream Yep, like I have a lot of respect for that because that she goes to show easy concept I know disagreeing with somebody and still maintaining friendship weird Fucking we you need to agree with me or

Fuck you. Yeah, no, it's it's actually fucking wild but um twitch I've never felt has like shadow banned me or anything like that like Like they're they're very fair like they're very fair, but it's just like what? Like they haven't shadow banned me they haven't like like Stunted my growth or anything like that because I get a lot of years from recommended I get a lot of years Yeah, I get I can see my statistics like I know I'm getting natural traffic

to my stream and that's good. And I know that hasn't been hindered at all.

But what's going on with the sub splits and like all this other shit and like not really like they're like we care about creators But like they do things that don't care about creators It's like something even came up was because like the largest user poll on twitch is like There's like forums basically where you can vote or be like hey We need an answer to this or why isn't this happening? We want changes to the platform this way where they say they're listening to people and they'll make changes based on these votes and there's like 22,000 fucking people on

On the platform, mostly partners were like, hey, we need to answer this sub split thing. Twitch has the lowest subs revenue split of any platform. It's 50-50. YouTube, 70-30. Fan House, 80-20. Fansly is like 90-10. OnlyFans, 80-20. Patreon is 88-95%.

On the user side. That's imagine. That's like taking a contract from, okay. A lot of people, if you just get into the business or you are just getting fame or fighting or music, it doesn't fucking matter when you have shady agents, shady businesses. That's what they look for is the dudes that don't look at the contract. The verbiage is hidden on how they say shit. I've seen this a lot. And when you get these contracts, they go,

As I always say it's like 10% I was like you can get fucked if you're getting more than 10% from me as an agent Unless you're going above and beyond and you're doing fucking content and you're setting shit up then I'm like, okay Let's like 15 20. Yeah. Yeah, I will never do it. I've done 18 once I will never do it again No, and that's why you're like, holy shit, but now think about that. These people are just twitches Hey, you get 50/50 you do all the fucking work and

Hey, clean. You get 70-30. You get 70-30 after you put in this bunch of work. But it's 30%. It's still a fucking shit ton of money. That's a lot. And then on top of that, it's like, hey, guys, you want to come to TwitchCon?

They're not even fucking flying their biggest streamers out for the shit or they're making them pay for the reason why people even go to Twitch con is because of the streamers. They don't want to talk to Twitch executives. They don't want to talk to Twitch staff. They want to see the fucking creators that they watch every single day and maybe shake their hand and be like, Hey, I love your content. Thanks for being there and let me watch your stuff and whatever. And so that I can say, Hey, thank you for taking the time to watch my content and support me, man. It's great to see you like, you know, stuff like that. Put a face to a name, a name, a face. Yeah, absolutely. For sure.

Throw cum at him. Yeah. Give him a cum shot. Kissing baby. He just walks around with these. Kissing hands, shaking babies. He should just call these cummies now. Yeah, you just take off a putty. What's it going to take you to do a cummie? No, I'm not doing a cummie. Do you want to do a cummie? I'm not going to do a cummie. We can do a three cummies. I really don't want to. I'll do a bloody cummie. I really don't want to. That shit comes from China. There's probably some color dyes in there that give you autism and fucking Asperger's. I'm not going to fucking...

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All proceeds go to charity of this year's ago and check one out before they're gone from the store Yeah, but twitch is dropping the ball so hard and everybody's been looking for this like 70/30 split or like an answer to it cuz even worse than the 70s but it was an Unspoken thing we weren't allowed to tell people yep. We had a 70 They always told us to kind of keep it on the table Don't tell people like you know this is something that I just found out this today from both When I got my partner

or my partner manager. - Yeah, your rep, yeah. - Yeah, my rep, he basically told me like, "Hey, here's something that you can work for, but this is only something that we tell people internally." We didn't have to sign an NDA, but just like, "Hey, don't talk about this shit." - It's like a salary. It's literally a salary. - Yeah, it's a salary. - They don't share your salaries.

Always show your fucking salary. Jesus Christ. You're only helping your corporation and fucking all of your friends and you. Yeah. But yeah, they said, don't tell this. So like everybody's like the numbers of what you had to do have always kind of been like, well, it's 500 for 60 days, 90 days, maybe, you know,

And they were like baiting people. And like, if you ever applied for it and didn't get it, they'd be like, yeah, we don't ever do that for anybody. Well, I was going to say the only way that you ever get it is through your partner rep. You never got it. There's no official way to apply for it. I know there was now. So towards the end, there was. There was. You had to apply through the partner support.

Cause there, there's literally a revenue sub split category. Interesting. I didn't know that it was like, so a little after I got it, cause I, I ended up getting a partner rep and he, he brought it to me. I was like this fucking, this is amazing. Cause I was doing really well. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, amazing fucking dude. He's actually probably gonna come out soon. He always keeps seeing our stories. He saw us with the miniguns and stuff at the range and he's like, "Bro, you guys just do that?" And I'm like, "Yeah, that's kinda normal for us." Like, we'll have a helicopter fly in and shoot miniguns and it's like, "It's normal for us." I know, he was telling me, we've both been talking to him, trying to get him to come out. Yeah, he wants to. He wants to really bad. He really wants to do some kind of paintball airsoft event or something like that, which would be super cool. Just use fucking, let's get, what are they called? What are they called?

The co2 cartridge fucking rounds sim munitions ammunition I mean we could probably do this the ranch that would be fun like do like a Yeah, you've been shot with I don't know if some gamers would be down to do sim runs though cuz they get shoot him once Yeah, exactly yeah, there'd be fucking perfect. They'd be done. Have you seen how fast clean can shoot? I want to see somebody eight times before he goes

See the difference between it's like okay. I'm gonna shoot and video game man. I need you to run out I'll provide covering fire boom boom boom boom. They're just gonna stay behind Now this is a safe tree Stay my ass right? Yeah Bro back back last time I ran sim rounds buddy of mine. Oh, oh

best sim around fucking story holy shit we had a bunch of new guys coming to the scout platoon and uh and we had the guy running the drill as his name was kidder amazing fucking dude and he was teaching new guys how to pie a corner properly because they were fucking it up so he would just sit there with a sim around pistol and first part of their body he saw he would just pepper the fuck out of them after you know you were done you would

Clear your gun, then you turn everything in. This one dude went to turn in a fully loaded, round-of-the-chamber pistol. He's like, here you go. Pointed at him. Finger on the fucking tree. Here you go. So, of course, he fucking chews him out. Tells him to go figure the fuck out. Come back. And fuck yourself. Chew comes out. Drops the mag. He's like, here you go. Hands him.

This dude threw him to the ground and just started racking every rep put the mag in racked every round into his one Sorry I will live on in my brain forever I bet some fucking dumbass people in the military straight up like I'm like Why do you have a fucking gun and why did we approve? Why did you how do you get past training? We called them drivers? You're like okay, so we'll take that oh

Here's some keys. Okay. Here's the key to the padlock. You're going to drive and sit in that car. Okay. Roger that.

Fuck man. Jesus fucking Christ. Dude, that's crazy. But Twitch! Twitch sucks. Because you got like, they've been fucking up on a whole bunch. It's also Long Beach Griffey's video he just did about that. Oh my god. That person had a word slip. Fucking banned for life. You were fucking on camera seven days. Dude, I saw that. That chick was like, she was like, oh thank

I'm like, what the fuck is going on? I thought this was a video game platform. This is the shit on Twitch episode. Here's shit on Twitch round two. So a chick got caught.

fucking live on stream she was drunk the first time apparently was what she said and you could see her just kind of wiggling and if you looked past her there was a glass door there was the reflection in the glass door of just her getting railed the fuck out it's like okay so she got banned seven days for blatantly fucking on stream live gaming or talking and chatting

Unmanned after seven days. Comes back. Does it again? Does it again? All while her growth went from three to 400 followers. She's at 15,000 followers now.

Like Twitch just really needs to draw the fucking line because spray well and that's it will never fucking do that cuz it's like girl this sprayed fucking vodka and cat's face throwing cat Where it's like some dude can barely do something it's like instant banhammer and then flipside now is fucking Oh Gambling is really bad. We can't show this to children. Hey, let's let's pull up a

Any of the twitch girls and let's watch some ear licking for two hours Fucking tricky like I don't give a fuck that people are doing like bathtub and hot sauce. Oh, I don't care make your money You're looking ASMR like I've literally sat down and watched it. It's just for science, right? But

The way it's portrayed, it's literally a blowjob. It's very sexual. I was blown away. Like, I have no issues with ASMR in general. I have no issues with girls dressing the way they fucking do on the platform. Go for it. Like, I can wear a tank top. You can too. I don't give a fuck. But this, like...

Blatant over sexual sexualization is wild It's softcore porn in some state in some cases. Oh well. That's the thing. It's just it's like edging like you're like Oh, I can almost see a nip mmM. I guess beside you and that's what people like because it's like you can't Teenage angst there's actually this I kept getting this one like a hot tub streamer recommended to me and every time I Like who the fuck is this I keep getting everybody. I'll check them out click on it and

Nothing's on stream. She's literally standing off camera the entire time and then she like will get on camera for like five minutes and go off camera again and then like that's the whole thing and it's just like that's what people want because they're just waiting for like let me see you in a bikini like they're just like I was hoping you would have been like and then like when he comes onto the camera like Steve he's one of my favorites I'm like huh this took a different turn. Can we just watch him dude? Hot tub streamers are like jacked just lifting weights. Yeah just like here

It's so weird that like twitch is okay with such an over sexualization of stuff because it's supposed to It's not a gaming platform anymore. It's really not. It's a live streaming platform now So it's like it started as games It was always about gamers and now like you have to just chatting you have like the hot tub stuff You got like the gambling it's like it's it's just live streaming now. It's just whatever you can stream within the terms of service that's

Yeah, that's the problem. We don't know what the fucking terms of service are or what's allowable. Well, that's the thing. It's because they're always, I don't know why the fuck they do this. And like a lot of people are so confused. Like this girl literally getting obviously fucked on stream. Like that should not happen ever. Remotely. How do you come back from that? You shouldn't. That's the thing. Like you fucking shouldn't. But for whatever reason, they're just like, ah, you know, it's fine. Well, three day ban. No big deal. Somebody fucking like. No, they have a wheel spin. They just walk up. They're like. Woo.

seven day back. Okay, we're good. Next person. It makes me wonder if they're like doing this on purpose to just piss people off or if there is somebody who's like, oh yeah, it's fine. You know, it's no big deal. And then somebody like, you know, like,

Some fucking dude says like a racial slur who isn't even the streamer on the stream and then they get banned for it. Like I that's like this happened with Asmongold. He was playing an MMO. Some dude like said the N word or some shit and he like in his stream said it not him to be very clear. Yeah, there's like another person in the game that he was playing and he like rolled his eyes and like muted the dude and that was it.

But Twitch banned him for a day because he didn't like condemn him for it. And they're like, oh, you should have said something. You should have been like racism is bad, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But it's just like, why address it? Yeah. Like why? Exactly. Why address it? Just, it's like, oh, fucking some other dude who'd say something on the internet that he would never say in real life. Cause he's a fucking pussy. Cause that's how most gamers are. Let me give him a, let me give him a platform now and then address that name and everything. Now everyone knows about him. Oh,

Yeah, exactly. We shouldn't be putting this shit on a pedestal. I can understand wanting to make an example of people. I get that. But at the end of the day, it's like if he wasn't focusing on it and making that the narrative for his content, he should never have got a ban for that. But then you have other people who do the same fucking thing, but way worse, and they don't get banned.

That's what happens. It's just, it's, it's very double-sided. It's very two-faced. And that's what a lot of content creators want is we want definitive rules. Like if you do this, we do this or not. Yes, exactly. Can we do this or not? If I do this, will I get banned? And it's just like, there is a lot of favoritism and shit going on. And like, there is even huge streamers who obviously bring a lot of money to the platform that have obviously broken to us that have other people who aren't as large got straight up banned for it, but they don't because of who they are and the connections that they have at Twitch. And it's a lot of, a lot of the world is it's,

just who you know. It's who you know and how much money you bring in. Exactly. Like fucking Ghazleen Maxwell. She got sentenced to fucking 20 years for child trafficking. Who's your fucking clients? Oh, guess what? Doesn't fucking matter because they're all fucking politicians and rich people that nobody's going to figure out who the fuck they are because it's who they know. Yeah. That's the world. It's great.

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registered in the us it's us-based so vert isn't you know again not in the twitch loop recently there has been a big scandal on twitch uh there's a group of larger streamers from different frame groups whatever this is uh it's like it's like it's a click of streamers yeah click of streamers and and one of them um has been scamming his viewers lying to his friends

And just cheating money out of people, but I was surprised by the number I was like $500,000 thinking like five grand a dog until I read that was like I was like how the fuck do this do slicker right? Yeah, can I squeeze this and just like pop it in your mouth? Please don't please just on his face. I don't want you to bust on my face. I'm sorry you want some cummies? But

This dude has been doing this stuff for $300,000 and this click of popular streamers decided they're going to either go on strike later in December when it's like big ad money time for Twitch or we're going to ban gambling and.

A lot of these streamers really rallied behind this ban gambling thing and this is probably like the fastest twitch has ever responded It's really true. I've never seen them like be like, oh fuck it was like a week and a half Maybe less than that twitch came out put a letter out being like hey, we're gonna ban gambling Asterix little star kind of and then they go on and say well We're gonna ban gambling if it's not registered in the us if it's not legal in this part or if that website's not technically allowed because a lot of streamers were using these pseudo shady gambling websites

And let's be real gambling's bad. Don't fucking waste your money. It's stupid, but people do it and they were doing it to lots of viewers and some of these people were doing it using websites or being sponsored by these gambling websites to stream it where they weren't really losing money.

Obviously some people were losing lots of money like slayer, but it's it's it but I mean it's it's it's like exception I was gonna say it's like it's it's like it's still real money But it's like because of them getting paid by the sponsor of the gambling website anything that the loss is actually just gonna get reimbursed in The first place you're just doing it for the views yes And then there are also another flip side the other flip side of that is the the websites can then control the winning chances of a streamer So then that streamer has a higher chance now. What's that do that influences other people?

Think they can win more money when they're good. Oh, yeah, I heard that too. You're both like look you're like I told you my neck was all fucked up You want me to pop your back? I'm actually really good. I'll shoot you with one of those things like this and then you hold it yeah But but yeah, they get that and that yeah it that puts in people's heads It's like oh man you win a lot on this website because they're watching their favorite streamer gambler whatever win and

It's like, no, no. No, the house always wins. Yeah, no, they do. Just at this moment, that guy is losing money. But he's a part of the house, though, because he's getting paid by them. Exactly. That's the whole point. So these big Twitch streamers rallied behind, you know, gambling's bad, get it off Twitch. Which, to an extent, yeah, gambling's fucking bad. I agree. So Twitch came out with a big press release saying, yeah, we're going to ban gambling and asterisks, not all the websites, just some websites. Meanwhile, like, sports betting and all this shit is still, like, slots. Like, you can still gamble on Twitch as long as it's just...

Certain website it was wild they banned like a handful of websites and all these troopers like we defeated gambling on tweets like motherfucker You did nothing. Oh, there's a high five Twitter people we win

Meanwhile, I hate people so much. Meanwhile, none of them are trying to get other streamers a higher subsplit. None of them are trying to figure out why Twitch is drowning their viewers in ads. None of them. Justice Warriors is what we call them. Oh my God, dude. It was,

And all of this is all of this is just because one dude who got a bunch of leaks of him scamming people and that's why people want to get bad because of one person's gambling addiction of him fucking other people over not because they cared about the platform not because they cared about the viewers it's because one of their friends look bad and they wanted to save face and they decided let's rally to ban gambling because Gambling addiction is bad blah blah blah blah blah It's like now you just y'all that was your boy, and you're just trying to cover his ass And I will say train wreck was cracking me though fuck I

Train's funny, bro. Dude, Train had me laughing. I was like, that dude's just like, oh, yeah. Like, he's just coming. He's just to the next shit storm. So this guy got caught gambling, and then all of his friends rallied about how gambling's bad, and we gotta stop it, and then Train comes out and just ruins people. Dude, Train was Jesus Christ walking in and watching. Gambling at church. Train's like,

What the fuck? What do you fucking think this is? He's just like, ah! Train does a lot of gambling on stream. He does. He also, I will say, he talks nonstop about, you can't win like this. This isn't real. Yeah, this is very much. He's very transparent. He's very transparent and open about a lot of it. He doesn't really, at least this is my perception, he doesn't seem like he's trying to deceive people. Yes. He's trying, he's very open about it. And this released, man, this opened up a whole new fucking can of worms. Yep. Of some of the biggest streamers on Twitch. The Crack.

Like hiding sexual assault allegations, sexual harassment allegations, whatever the fuck it was. I've heard 18 million different things and- Oh that came out one of those guys Miz? Mizkiff, yeah. Just admitted to it? Yeah there was a discord call that was leaked. I was actually playing with my guild in this MMO that I've been in and they were talking to me about it and they gave me the TLDR but basically like this dude- Bro you are so 27. I know. They gave me the GDLR I'm like

Oh yeah, that's what that means. Like, I have an old man, like, what's clean fucking saying? But essentially there was a Discord call that was leaked, and I think it was like Train and Mizgif, Asmongold and XQC and somebody else, I don't know. I think it was those four. Yeah, I didn't watch it. Again, somebody just told me, so it's kind of hearsay. But apparently, like,

The mischief was like oh are this guy who's also addicted to gambling basically great buddy who is you know like some girl who's like on roofies or was passed on? Just in case grape it yeah, but grape grape but grape they're grape wait not that way grape grapefruit Grapefruit is somebody apparently some streamer who was best friends with Miz Miz kiff and

Assaulted in some way this other streamer this chick who was passed out or on drugs or roofie or whatever the fuck it was nobody's Mess of who said who said you know he said yeah, yeah

And then Miz tried to cover it up being like, "Eh, it's not that big of a deal." - Yeah, you know, Batty over here just-- - Great. - Two people, it's not a big deal. - No, I didn't. - It's okay, we're just gonna cover up for him. - I'm just being very clear, there's a lot of cameras right now. - No, it's fine. It's sarcasm, I'm being totally sarcastic. - It was me.

Look how cute Eli is. It was me. I did it. It's okay. But like, it's just like, to me, like, okay, like I would, I would help my friends out with fucked up stuff. But if my friend fucked up or if I fucked up and did something really bad, I would want to be called out for him. Hey, you kind of got to own your own shit. Exactly. Drop the ball. Who just fucking came out with that? Who's the guy that played Punisher? Yeah.

John Bertholdt. Him and then he just interviewed Transformers Shia LaBeouf and Shia LaBeouf. That is such a good, I don't know if you guys listened to Shia LaBeouf admitting too. He's like, yeah, I fucked up, blah, blah, blah. And John was like, yeah, and I'm holding you accountable. They fucking had a good discussion on that podcast and it's fucking good. It's how shit, it's like a dude admitting to what he did

He knows his faults and you want to learn from him. And then the good friend is like, Hey man, like that's why you're here. I keep you accountable. I'm going to call you out on your shit and let you know, like, Hey, I think you're fucking up. And I'm gonna be honest with you because I care about you. Not that all I care about you. Let's pretend none of this happened here. Sweeping. Sweeping. This is great. Would you put that there? That will never come out to fuck us over. Yeah. But the thing is, is when that happens, all that does is just expose like, uh,

It's bad. All it does is like, and that's again, this is one of the reasons why I'm so transparent about myself online is because I never want to be caught like, hey, look at clean fucking skeletons because I show you my skeletons. I let you look at them all the fucking time and my skeletons really aren't that bad because like I said, I'm very unapologetically myself and I have nothing to hide from you guys, but

Some people aren't like that. A lot of people are very deceptive and they want to maintain a persona, especially online because they want to make sure that people see them a certain type of way. They only show them this much of their personality when in reality there's another 70, 80% of something that they don't actually ever show to people.

And that's just like celebrities are like that, politicians are like that, anybody who is seen in the public image is like that. Not everyone, but you know, I just, I try and do my best to not be a part of that category 'cause I want to be transparent. - Absolutely, no, I've always been unbelievably transparent with everything I'm doing, how I feel, everything. - 'Cause all that ends up happening is what's going on right now, like, oh, so-and-so tried to cover up allegations. Oh, fuck.

That's not gonna look good at that doesn't look good at all fuck this guy's like bro you knew about it Why do you fucking say that's because people do things for clout when they realize oh fuck there's a mob out there chase Yeah, fuck like you know here's the torches and big hashtag. I helped wait which part did you help the

Now all these massive streamers are at each other's throats They're all like here are some DMS where this guy said the n-word and we're leaking it now in 2017 it's like

They're all just at each other's fucking throats just trying to be like who can cancel who faster. I forgot it was- That's what happens though when you're part of that cancel culture bullshit. It's literally cannibalism. They cannibalize themselves. As soon as they see their money- It's like what's that one space movie with the little blue guys like- And they just fucking like rip them apart. I'm trying to remember what that movie is. You know what I'm talking about though, right? The little cute blue aliens and they cannibalize the weak one.

Wait, what is that? Yeah, no fuck. I know you guys know what I'm talking about. It's uh, it's like some fucking cool like funny space movie It was really dorky. It's like something of the galaxy or some shit. I think not no no no uh, was it no the hitchhiker guy That might wait hitchhiker guy to the galaxy. I think that actually hitchhiker guy to the galaxy. I've only seen it once I have no idea it might be that but I mean you guys know what scene i'm talking about though and they're like, oh look at the cute little blue and he's like limping and the other one's like oh they're

and they rip them apart that's cancel culture and that's like if you yeah if you twitter it yeah if you twitter yeah yeah that too i mean it's just like as soon as you start to abide by those rules like you are also could be a victim of those same very people like you have to be very careful and like it's it's honestly it's scary like

The worst I've ever tried to been cancels was the fucking like Tarkov community when they're like, oh, yeah All that other bullshit happened and like I was open about I was honest I was like, yeah, I fucked up like, you know I trusted the wrong people and listen to the wrong people and made the wrong choice and like my fucking bed I've reconciled with that and I've made amends with the people that I fucked over. Yeah, and we're on good terms now Yeah

And like, you know, it's fucking, I don't know. It's weird. If you guys want to know about that, I think it was actually the first podcast. I talked about it on the first podcast. Yeah, yeah. It was like episode 11 or some shit. Oh, man. This is, oh, fuck. And we forgot to say, this is going to be the last episode we film here. Is it? Are we sure? 100%? I'll have it done this weekend.

We have a studio guys. It's actually right next to clean house. It's kind of cool. We're neighbors. Yeah, we're neighbors now And I was like, I think it's by I think I text you guys I was like, I think the new studios right by Colleen's house. I was like, I haven't been here I was like, I think he's in this general air. No, it's literally like we check the maps. It's like a block away Oh shit, it's literally like coming shots right there. Oh, that's fucking dope. Have you seen it? I saw some

So if you guys have a pretty sick on Eli's Instagram by Instagram, we've leaked a couple actually the unsub Instagram We've leaked a couple little photos of the the new set getting built. It's not 100% there yet, but um It's so close. I cannot wait to move some of my dragons over and random random thing Did you guys see the millions of moths or butterflies? monarch butterflies Wait, is this no dude? They're

Everywhere. Have you drove the back drive? Spring Branch right now. If you want to see fucking chaos. It's just like... Dude, it is the locust. Oh, I'm so sorry. They start in New England. I used to see the beginning of it up in New England. And they go from New England all the way down to Mexico. I didn't realize we're like right in that path now. Yeah. That's crazy. I was driving out. I'm like...

what's going on? Like, there's fucking like, there's so many. I'm like, what's going on? You like walk out and one's there and it's like, we will blot out the sun. And then you would wait in the dark. And it's like, boop, boop, boop. Yeah. That's fucking wild. I was like, what the fuck is all over here? Because I took the Porsche out on accident. I didn't know that. I was like, ah, it's a nice day. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I just be like, oh,

It's like worse than rain, dude. And the grill. They're like, no, you fucking monarchs. Fuck you, bugs. But Spring Branch, when you're out on those country roads, bro, it is...

Crazy oh it is insanity left my house today, so I haven't seen the butter there wasn't actually too many around here But if you go like on the highway near the H-E-B. There's they're fucking everywhere really I can't wait to leave and just drive over butterflies my It is bad II think of just it's like wall you're just hitting walls of monarch yeah Big oh yeah, they're like this big no shit. I don't know why the fuck they don't fly higher. I'm like oh

Nah. Like, let's just go, like, five feet higher and not get decimated by everything. But they're just like, nah, bro, let's fly next to the highways. This is a good, like, trail zone, and you just kill all of them. Oh, those little fucks. You can go out and see my car. It's just splattered right now. I can't wait. I'm excited. There's a lot of them. It is a fucking metric shit ton. I'm like, oh, clean. What fucking MMO are you? I've been reading...

Hate when I go online yeah, no lifing a game I Watch I was watching you play and I was like oh could this be the one it's like no It's it's kind of sick though cuz it's like full loop PvP like so for example like I

The economy's really cool and there's no fast traveling. You can go to one side of the map and go to a vendor that has specific items. You can take them, ferry them across the map, assuming you don't die, and sell them for like four times the price.

So it's literally like Silk Road like you can oh my god dude like the economy is so complex like I got lost in fishing for three days because I was like oh fishing whatever dude this fishing game is the fishing minigame of this MMO is one of the most complicated I've ever seen you can fish the depth you can fish during certain times of the day using different size hooks and bait that will get you different types of fish that are worth more so that's see these are okay

The marketing thing just discussed. I was just reading a story about it in EverQuest. This is OG. This is 99 and 2000. I didn't realize a lot of those peoples that found the exploits to make money and buy and sell stuff from vendors and the markups. They just hire a lot of those MMO studios, just picked all those guys up and keep them employed. This is since 99. So yeah,

Apparently during this, there was this quest, an ever quest where it was like, okay, if you go across, you ride the boat, you do this, you can buy stuff. And then you have to ferry it across, trade it for something else. And then the final guy gives you money for it. They found a network chain.

They built a guild for it and the more and the quest was fucking easy and they're like, oh we can make a shit ton of money on this. It was they were running the operation for two months before EQ was like, yo hold the fuck on. How you guys this rich? Like you guys are really fucking rich compared to everyone else and like yeah.

And then they looked and it was like fucking 60 people running this operation. Yeah, it was like a big trade route. Bro. And then they were like, oh, we got to. And they just like everyone logged on. What are they? One day. And it was like, this quest is gone. They just fucking canned it. And they were like, oh, because EverQuest, we've discussed it. There was 16,000 quests never discovered during its original time.

Because there was 16,000? 16,000 quests never discovered in OG because this predates the internet. So everyone's just like, it's always word of mouth. So that's what Mortal Online is too at the same way. So you normally like with Elden Ring, like there was like soul farm guides, there was like build guides. It ruined all the discovery because people just watch these YouTube videos and run to the sword, get the moon veil or whatever. But in this, like people

Like don't want to share shit like there's alchemists who have potions that they only make for their guilds. Oh, that's fun There's four four types of fish that have still yet to be caught in this game There are like many many many secrets that players keep closely guarded to themselves, and they don't want to fucking share it with anybody Dude, it's fucking fun. Okay. I'll try it. I'm gonna try it. It's it's it's like

It's fucking cool, and there's so many different ways to play so if you want to be a mage for example I do like we got one thing So one thing So one thing is like my wizard hat one you can So if you want to be a mage like it's actually a fuck ton of work like one of the books to become like a necromancer Yeah, six thousand gold which is like a lot of fucking gold. Yeah, it's real life gold. Yeah. Yeah, I

You're in real life quest. You're like, oh man, this game sucks. This game fucking does. I get 6,000 pieces of Roman gold. But no, it's cool. I've actually taken the deep end in that MMO and I have a guild now and

We're uh, we're growing and uh, it's just it's a lot of fun, dude It's it's a really cool game and it's full loop pvp So you can fucking kill anybody anywhere take all their shit. You can take all their shit, dude Um, I miss it's fucking cool, bro. It's like it's it's a true sandbox and there's voip So did you meet like all these interesting characters and like all these random people like it's it's fucking really really really fucking clean, bro

That sounds like so much fun. I just started playing Destiny 2 again. Final Fantasy XI. I mean, it was like EQ and Final Fantasy XI. And I remember... What one was that? Oh, the fuck? It was a level-restricted patch. Prometheus, I think, or something.

It was everything reset to 30 for this one raid. So now everyone's going back in gear and getting the best level 30 items. There was a Hawker knife. And I was like, oh, I know that exact spawn pattern to a T of how that guy. And those Hawker knives were like $2,000.

I controlled the entire fucking market on that server. And that's Midgar's Orm. I was like, oh, I can fucking go here. I know exactly their spawn pattern. So you were just getting this one item. They went from like 2,000 to... I had them selling for 60k a piece. And I had a metric shit ton of those bitches. I just...

Every five minutes and then it was a 30 minutes and then a six hour window And I just turn on on those winners clock kill the placeholder. Yeah, get them people did people do that in the same game, too There's time so there's world bosses. There's world. Yes. There's world bosses doing the dungeons are actually so fucking sick Like I just did this necromancer dungeon, which is their newest one and like the level design of these dungeons

So there's literally a part in this dungeon where it's an Indiana Jones fucking like invisible right no no no it's an individual it's an invisible bridge and it took people a week to figure out the pattern to get across it and like you have to like find the pattern and you got to work as a team and like one person has to be the anchor then you follow up and you have to go through and dude it's it's fucking insane and if you fall at the bottom of the pit dead there's actually a way to get into the pit and

And so there's players who would actually sit there during the first week of the dungeon, people would fall, they drop their loot, they take their shit, and fucking leave. So you can literally go down there and collect corpses. Like, it's- the game is actually the same. A corpse collector! The bosses are on timers and people do the same shit, they got the bosses on timers and they build like houses and stuff right next to them and so, "Oh, boss is here!" And they'll like go to their house, kill the boss. You can build houses? Yeah, you can build strongholds, houses, and you can upgrade them. Eventually they're gonna have sieging, so you're gonna be able to raid players' houses and bases.

There's gonna be territory control. So you're literally gonna be able to own cities and territory and blacklist people from entering your city. So if you go to that city, the guards will just fucking kill you. You can't go. - Oh, so this is EverQuest. - No, it's literally EverQuest 2. And they're about to go on UE5 in like three to four months. - See, this is what I've missed. Like I will always fangirl. I'm gonna throw up.

it's that fun dude reading these old eq stories this last couple of days because on the fires of heaven shout out to all the fire of heaven bro the amount of times you've talked about these fires of heaven's like i still go on their forms that's it's so rare but like listening to the old stories where it's like oh man remember

There was no maps back in the day and it was just like, well, so that's running through fucking, it was like, Oh, stay on the roads. Kind of. But then people were like, no, those roads, it's a random dangerous road, bro. And it would be like, Oh man, this is such a beautiful. And you didn't realize, Oh, I worship the wrong fucking God for this neighborhood. So it's like my aunt and a Rook. So gangster in the guards. He's, he's like,

He just one shot you your corpse everything stays there in that guards like I protect this corpse now. Yep So you're like level two and you're like well Yeah, and like the map in that game is huge it takes like three hours on horseback to get from like one side well Maybe not like ever quest. It's a huge. Well the thing is it's only one continent now There's four more continents coming out. Oh, it's like dude. It's so right now the current content takes about an hour no boarding no porting

The only fast travel that you can do. Boats? No, there's no boats yet, but they're going to add that. Wizards? Yeah, you can be a mage. Can you fast travel as a wizard? Can you do some magic circle bullshit? Actually, yes. Yes! But to specific areas. No, no, no. You can kind of go wherever you want. So you can become a spiritist, which takes a long time to do, and you can actually get this portal, go into the nether, and you can fast travel through the nether, and you can do this as a regular player. So when you die, you turn into a ghost. I dated two of them. And what you can do is,

You go like a certain speed in the nether and there's priests that you can hop to so you can go nearest priest or home priest. When you do nearest priest it'll take you to another priest and you can kind of like fast travel the map that way but you cannot move any items while doing that unless you have high level spiritism which lets you like move like a little bit of gold and stuff like that. Can you charge people to move stuff? Yes. Oh yes I love this game so much. So I had to do this off stream. I had all my shit in like these northern towns.

and I wanted to move to this like eastern town, and we had like 2,000 gold, bunch of armor items. We had to get a caravan, we had every single town, we had a scout, have to scout out like a kilometer in front of us to make sure we were clear. I did this all off stream. Dude, it was fucking intense. - So nobody would fucking try to-- - Yeah, dude, 'cause the stream snipers are kinda bad in that game, 'cause it's one server. - Oh, God. - It's one server. But the thing is, the community is about anywhere from like, when I started playing it was like 800 to maybe 1,100 players. Now it's like 1,200 to 1,500 on its peak.

It's one world one server like the developers of this philosophy or it's like one world one server. There's no shards There's a there's a starter zone called Haven where you can just kind of like learn the game level up your character and stuff And like dude like we fit it took us three hours But we ferried all of our gear and everything to the other side of the map and we could have gotten wiped and lost it all

If somebody jumped us. Like it's not safe. Even in the spirit realm if you're moving gold, which is the only thing you can move, another spirit can come in, find you, kill you in the spirit realm and take your shit in the spirit realm. So even then it's not safe. I love it! It's like Ultima Online. It is dude. The developer's literal passion is like this is Ultima Online 2.

That's just cool. It's like EverQuest Ultimate. It's the OG. And that's what sucks. It's like, because the one I really want is Pantheon and it will never come out because that development team is just like all over the place. They're like, eight years later, we need more money. It's Star Citizen. Almost done. And you're like, you pieces of shit. And they still do monthly streams and stuff showing the content. This month, they showed like a new T-post. They were like, look at the new character models. Oh.

Wow. I'm like, bro, it's 2022. This looks like 2010 video game. It's bad. It was actually funny because I put like 300 hours in like a month and a half. Just real quick. No, no, no. We got to talk about that number.

Most people put 300 hours into a game in 8, 12 months. It's kind of my job to play video games for a living. You game for a living? It's pretty cool. It can be stressful sometimes, but it's pretty cool. I just forget sometimes that it's work and I just do it too much. I streamed 180 hours in two and a half weeks, three weeks. I took two or three days off yesterday. I was like, I'm getting up.

Fuck you 200 hours month is a lot for a streamer. No, it's a lot the most in terms of like ad deals I've gotten is 176 I haven't gotten any more than that. I keep mine between 80s the night to be transparent They offered me like 18k for 176 hours out on top of everything that it makes

Okay, and what I did what I do is I grind for the first like two three weeks in the light last week I just I chill out once I hit my number. I'm like I can breathe kind of fucking chill absolutely relax. It's saying yeah You guys have fun with that. I played Wars are my play I played it yesterday to do it It's super good, but I fucking hate cod gameplay so much. I can't stand people jumping around corners every fight This is still can hate it. This is lower, but holy lower. Oh

This one is a bit smidge slower. We're talking about Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2. It just dropped. The beta's live right now. The guns feel so good, but holy fuck. And if you use a Cronus, but the controllers, do you see how... Amos is just OP, dude. Dude, bro, it is like...

Like, snap and it tracks the character right now. I had to switch to PC only because, like, I could tell when people were aim assisting me because I'm like, bro, how did he fucking just flick on me when I saw him two seconds earlier? And it, Batty, it tracks, like, you can be running and the aim assist is, like, snap towards head, track with it. I remember seeing a thing about running with aim assist. Everything about the new COD's amazing. Sound, immaculate. Animations, amazing. I've heard sound is unbelievable. No, everything is so good. Everything is so good. I just... The guns, building the guns. Dude, the guns, the guns, but Tarkov, fuck.

did that already like i know well they're they just copying tarkov they're doing you have to open the boxes apparently now for the raiders doing raids and everything yeah they have the dmz mode that's coming out but of course it's not gonna they're not gonna show anything until release because they want to like edge people until release and i just hope like it is cool but the thing is i don't like cod gameplay and the only thing i dislike

The jumping that's the only thing I'm a woman well the movement isn't super bad like yeah people move quick But it's just like when a dude can literally jump in the air full recoil shoot you in aim while falling like that kills it for me because every single fucking fight is a dude jumping around a corner I don't care about the slide is how I know cleans never been to war so that is how we entered in I'd like go Smith jump

You would bridge the room, Smith would jump 360 through the door spraying down all eight enemies at once. It's just too fast for me, but again, the game is so high quality and a lot of the animators who work for Activision watch my stream a lot. Mr. Blindside and Troy Irving, they're both really talented animators. They worked on a lot of games and Activision recruited them. If you press I, the inspect animations, have you seen them?

Oh, go press I do do the mag check you like checks the chamber and stuff It's like any like he like pulls the Glock back and then taps the slide like it's super. It's really good Really good really good. I didn't want to because right now to play you have to buy the beta I got a free access code just ask I probably could I just Good

fuck i just don't like called gameplay because it's too fast maybe i'm just old i like the more slow methodical stuff like the fastest i like my gameplay is maybe like insurgency sandstorm or something like that yeah i like that pace but it's just like again it's just like i don't like a game where it's like m4s and tactical stuff and then i see dude just like it's like flying around i'm like what the fuck is going on i'm big on john and i forgot how much that

Because right now warzone when we go play wars and I do like that quicker element because yeah now how we play is very much Rush rush rush. It's like team team team team. We're trying to stack as many kills as possible, and I jump I'm like I don't know when I remember old videos are never jump fighting games your big no-no you don't know this now I'm like oh I build my hip fire weapon and I Xex and those guys were like oh

Build your gun to hit fire my SMG. I'm like yeah, I don't hit fire so opi You can hit fire and you play against controller player you just jump behind him and you can lock that bitch on and then slower I pull out my gun then run aim do that. I love it being able like mount on I put my hand in the come again It is a trade-off where it's like you're trying to find this nice

Speed as you're saying it's like is it too fast is it yeah? So I think on warzone on the big maps you need that little quicker pace on short maps And it's like it the games way too fast It's like it's just all every stream of like a good player to watch cuz like I'm friends with some pros It's literally like high ready sprint jump high ready sprint jump and that's all they're doing like every angle there They're doing the fast print and then they jump then they do it again, and then they jump they just corner clear I didn't know there was a high

You have to double tap shift. It's really weird. Or you can go in an option and just turn it on. Yeah. And which is the dumbest thing possible. You're like, why wouldn't that just be on? So there's two sprints. You have this one.

You have a race friend. Yeah, yeah, and you're ready sprint You can get perks to make it last longer a little faster and stuff, but it's just like it's too fast I fucking hate it. I think I'm just getting old I guess but no you would love now That's where you get to see like we're warzone and whatever call it. Do these brands are they're like we need to add this shit It's serpentine is the dumbest shit ever. That's why I think it's acting Yeah zigzag and you take more bullets as long as you're zigzagging you can get shot more Yeah, it adds to your damage resistance and you're like well

Why? Yeah. Why is that a good idea? Like, why did that pass QC? We're like, uh-huh. Quality. Quality. Here we go. And I was like, yeah.

Yeah, well, I mean they have innovated a lot though because one thing that they did too is they have a lot of fov control So if you didn't check you can actually make your gun further away from you or closer to you so you can make like it's your view model But they added a lot of inverse kinematics of the arms So it's a lot like tarkov with this procedural animation going the arms are actually connected to the third person model When you see people reload you actually see them take their magazines out and do the full animation that you see in first person in third person because in cotton before it was like you'd see them reload they're just like

They just like wave their hand like that and you wouldn't see anything animate and so like they really have like a combat reloads They only on last mag or if you have a side of hand so if you have side of hand your guy changes animation And he'll do like the like the flick animation whip. I wasn't sure he's like they like take out no It's based. It's based off the perk and whether or not. It's the last round okay, or last yeah, yeah empty bag Which is pretty cool. I mean again. It's it's cool, but it's just like

I played it for four hours and I'm like, man, I don't fucking like this game. I can't play it. The third person mode was wild to me too. Dude, it was so cheap. I would literally have a shotgun. I would stand on a corner and I could see around the corner. I'm like, oh, third person. Oh, it's PUBG. Yeah, it's OG PUBG. Exactly. And

Even wilder. When you aim in the third person mode, it goes to the first person. So it's kind of like SOCOM. You ever played SOCOM? Yes, it's exactly like old SOCOM. God, SOCOM's a PS2 fucking blast. SOCOM 2 on PS3 was a fucking great game.

Those are all classic games. God, I remember Socom, man. Socom and USP got fucking crazy. Aaron was talking about that because that game, I think you carried the USP. It was like your primary. That's fucking crazy that they do the punch in and punch out shit. It's jarring how fast you're like, bam, in first. It's really weird. You don't even really need to aim. You can just hit fire people.

Yeah, which is yeah, you just need to strafe and wait for third person. You're just pretty good It just you can third. Yeah, you can you can use you can you can hit fire because there's like a shady reticle like a big reticle and then when you zoom obviously goes to your sites, but

Yeah, I don't it's on it try it out. It's it's weird, but it's also at the same time kind of fun But it's also bad because people just abused the camera and they just PUBG literally I don't know how they would anything would happen. They're like PUBG What'd you do in third-person mode? Let me just stay here and then or get this rock and elevate camera and wait Are you prone on a roof or something? Nobody can see you you can see all around you gain information hop up shoot a guy go back from

It did like it's essentially really weird. Yeah, it's like in that's why I like first-person games is because if you want to gain information you have to have Exposure yourself exactly you got to expose yourself, which is great And that's why like I played Daisy exclusively in first person I never play third-person easy just because people like lay on the ground the amount of times I saw that when I was playing daisies somebody's just just rotate just rotating the camera would spin with yeah, yeah, it just doesn't look good at all

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