194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
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Hey guys, before this amazing episode starts, we have one quick update. One quick one. You might have missed it from last week, but to start this year off strong, we're doing one last live show to end our tour. We're at Vegas, baby. Nick, what are them details? We're going to be hosting Unsub Live at the Venetian Theater on January 20th in Las Vegas, Nevada. I'm going to be fucking hammered. It's going to be great. If you want to join me, there's going to be links down below where you can go buy tickets right now. God, he's beautiful.

Thelon Ballot Tour, we're doing one last show. That's right. Come out, have fun, have some drinks, and come hang out with so many freaking people. There is so many content creators that are going to be there. It is going to be a blast, lots of laughs, and we can't wait to meet all of y'all.

Thank y'all so freaking much for how big these live shows have gotten. In one year, y'all made it possible to sell out a 1,200 seat venue. Being in front of y'all, hearing the cheering, the laughter, the stomping is one of the greatest experiences any of us have had. So thank you so much. Now back to an awesome episode. We're going to figure out why Eli always has me on podcasts with fucking pipe hitters. Retired. Retired. Retired.

I don't let it because I love it. It is. I'm like, holy shit. We have dope ass stories. Some pipe layers, maybe. Yeah. And especially after yesterday. Oh, fuck. We'll start it off right. Ready? Everyone get that. Put it by the mic. Oh, three, two, one. Sounds like freedom.

White girl. Oh, my God. Not your thing? I just turned into... Did my Uggs pop in real quick? What flavor you got there? Tangerine? Some pumpkin spice, something? It's like you're drinking TV static while someone yells about a tangerine. That's what they taste like. Hide the bourbon behind this white girl shit. Nick!

- Sure did. Fuck, Cody's not here. - I know. - Hi everyone, welcome to the Unsubscribe Podcast. I'm joined here today by my co-host, Mr. Eli Doubletap, our new friend Terry,

And Ethan, Mr. Habitual Winecrosser. And I am Nick, obviously. The Fat Electrician. You look gorgeous. We're on podcast number two for Range Day. We're just bath-fogging these bitches. It's fine. We left a bar of 300 people. We tried to, literally, we did one round to the bathroom and left, and it took... In that time, I managed to drink a beer. So, like, I didn't even get to the bathroom. I was like, I'm not making it. Yeah, just send it. Yeah. You guys did the right thing. I just, like... Terry Kev.

We're gonna stay here and drink. So I can stay here and drink bourbon or I can go hang out with a whole bunch of 300 people in a fucking room? No. That's your nightmare. I'll do this. Terry! Dude, everyone knows the bitch. Everyone knows how to... Everyone knows me. This is Terry. Yes. Nobody knows me, which is nice. Oh, this is... Dude, you ever...

Again, as he was saying, it's like, why are you putting on, like, Tyler, yourself? It's all these, like, the first tier one individuals. And you guys are so fucking humble about it, which is my favorite part. But then also some of the funnest humans I've ever met. We don't really give a fuck anymore. So it's fun to hang out.

Oh, I'm so stoked for this. This is like my rule in life is like, I've got limited numbers of fucks. So I spend them wisely. Tell us what you were. Yeah. So background, uh, grew up in Indiana and spent where, uh, up by South Bend, a little town called Plymouth. So, uh, grew up swimming. That's what led me to the Navy, the army or anything else. I thought I could be like a scuba diver or something cool. And then they tricked me into signing up for this.

jumping out of airplanes and blowing shit up and no idea what Bud's or any of that stuff was. What year is this? This is, so I signed up in 91 and joined in January 92. Yeah, so like this. It was pre-Al Gore. I was seven and I don't know if they existed yet. It wasn't a fucking thing yet. WWW and all that stuff, yeah. They didn't exist yet. In 91, I was one. I was negative three. I was seven. I am old. Yes.

No, I just like... Sorry, I got Kevin. Kevin's my peer group. No, but I mean, so what was it like? Because, I mean, everybody always forgets because, like, everybody knows Navy SEALs and Tier 1 and military is so much popular now. But, like, when you were a kid and you were, like, going to join the military, nobody knew what the fucking Navy SEAL was or what an Army Ranger was or any of that. So, like, how did you get to the point where you're like, yeah, I'll do that? Did you even know what you were signing up for? No, it's simple. Because I went in, I was telling, I think, Mitch last night, I was like, I went in to...

learn how scuba diving i grew up swimming i wanted to be in the water i was thankfully mature enough to know that college was not in my near future good for you to be worthwhile so i'm like hey stay here and do nothing and hang out with the college or high school girls or or join the navy so i went in and talked to him and he's like yeah what do you like to do hunting fish and shoot guns and stuff and he's like yeah there's a poster like look at that thing he's like skydiving like never been skydiving 18 or whatever it was

What about blowing shit? I'm like, sign me up. What is it? So he's like, oh, it seals. Here's the thing. Sign a contract. No clue what buds. He didn't tell me anything about it. It was in the brochure. Like, yeah, get a little pamphlet. Like 64 weeks or whatever it was. No idea. Like attrition rate or getting your ass beat, which is good.

because growing up in that farming community, I knew how to work hard. So when I got to California, it was like, hey, just go do this. Go do this. And by the time I realized how much it sucked, we're like halfway through. I'm like, oh, okay, cool. Let's do this shit. Farm kids. Yeah, we're...

strong and dumb yeah look at this vacation they're sending me on yeah it's in california yeah i'm living on the beach it's awesome i i was born in california and i moved out to iowa when i was like 11 12 why'd you do that huh that's like a reverse of being cool no it's way better i was so much better these days but like the thing you move out to the midwest coming from california and you run into these

farm kids that just go out there and wrestle. It's like, you guys aren't geared like everybody else in this fucking country. Jesus Christ. Those farm boys are terrible. 12-year-old kids that are tougher than most of the men in California. It's insane. They're like slinging hay bales and picking rocks out of the field. I did like two weeks moving square bales. Fuck that. They're built different. No. Sergeant Schutte. The only dude in ground cabatas, whatever they call it. I did BJJ up to that time. So

That was one of the few kids when they put me in whatever level one was, I tapped out an instructor. And the instructor was like, what the fuck? I was like, dog, I've been fighting since I was 10 years old. Shootie was the only motherfucker I watched an instructor like go to pull an arm guard and shoot goes.

280 pounds of just... Nothing but muscle. And all he did was live on a farm in his entire life. You're like, Jesus fucking Christ, dude. So halfway through you realized it sucked. At which point did you realize... Because I'm assuming you got shipped off to basic and you didn't even realize that you were doing something that was elite or above average hardness level. Oh no, you're just...

Like when I, so I went in, joined in January 92 for bootcamp and go to bootcamp. It's like one or two other guys are in a dye fair program or their EOD program, whatever it is. So we're gonna go do our workouts with the little seals that are on base. You'll run and do pushups and that kind of stuff. But it's kind of a little break from your bootcamp stuff. Um,

Yeah, but you still don't really know what you're signed up for. Go to a school, same kind of thing. Work out with a couple of guys that are in the program. Then you show up to California. You're like, oh, fuck, what's this? This is cool. And then by the time the water starts getting really cold and the sand starts really rubbing your vagina quite a bit, you're like, fuck. But then you're like halfway through and you already made friends at this point. So you don't want to quit and let your friends down. And it's kind of funny. I mean, it's really, it's hard, but it's easy. And the fact that, yeah.

It turns it up. It's like simple, but not easy. Cause it's like every single day, like, Hey, we're going to do this today. You're going to run four miles. We're going to feed you at this time. Like you didn't have to think until you got through hell week, which at the end of the day is kind of fun when it sucks really bad. And then you get afterwards, you're like, Oh, that's kind of cool.

Yeah. Then you start learning stuff like, okay, we got, got you to the point where we know you're not going to give up when things get hard. Now we can start teaching you, teach you how to scuba dive, teach you how to, you know, the rebreather, the draggers, and then teach you how to shoot guns. Like, yeah, it just starts to get fun at that point. So was there any, like, was there a particular moment where you're like, maybe the recruiter fucked me up? He didn't really give me all the information I should have. He might have lied. Oh yeah. When you show up, first show up there and you walk in, you check in, you're like,

Seaman fucking who you and checking in for buds. And you look out in a grinder. Cause you checked in at the quarter deck back then. And you see this dude just getting fucking worked. And like, what, who are, who are these guys? And like, that's the class in front of you. And you see the helmets lined up. I'm like, what happened to those guys? Like they quit. Like, well, what happens then? Like,

you don't want to know. Like, oh, fuck yeah, okay, I guess I'm not quitting because this big strong dude told me I don't want to know. 19 at this point? Yeah, I think I turned 19 in Bud's. Yeah, turned 19 in Bud's or something like that. Is that a time where there's no internet? I turned 19 in...

a school or something in 20 and buds but yeah still baby that's what i was gonna say because like i grew up my whole life like i remember when i was in like middle school watching like making the cut on buds and shit so like i've known what this is my whole life of like known of it so i i can't imagine walking into that situation like not having seen a youtube video about it or just like oh yeah there's no books there's no nothing i think i think the charlie sheen movie had come out prior to that but we watched it in boot camp it's like the first time i saw it like

oh fuck this is what I signed up for hell yeah or shoot through walls with 50s and stuff like you think it's all the fun stuff when I joined basic I remember going to MEPS signing in like swearing in and all that and they're like okay you're going to basic training again infantry you don't have a choice you're going to bidding

Don't know that. The internet's just now becoming a thing. So it was like, okay, you're going to basic training at Fort Benning. I was like, oh, no. Do you have like Jackson? I thought infantry could pick a nicer school. That's not it. I want to go somewhere fun. I was like, oh, yeah, I knew that.

Shipped out. Here we go. But it's funny because I didn't know shit. There was no information out there. There was no Reddit. Come full circle, my last job was running our pre-Buds pipeline up in Chicago. The guys, kids would come from boot camp, come over, and they would be in my house for eight weeks to learn how to get back in shape and learn mentally and physically, kind of get ready for it.

Like there's so much bad information out there on like what, what year is this? Sorry. So that was, I went up there in 2015. So my last three years, 2015 and 2018, I was up there running that school, but there's so much bad information. They get there and they start cheating right away. And they're still in the Navy. And like, how do you cheat? Well, there's no reason to cheat in pre buds. It's like super simple, right? Anyway, they would like try to cut corners. I had to drop,

Like the worst week I've ever had up there. I dropped 44 kids in one class because they were forging their Navy PQS. Like I cleaned, I know how to clean my room and to clean the barracks so I can go on leave or Liberty for the afternoon. Like they can't go on Liberty anyways. It doesn't fucking matter why you're cheating. So they got busted. The nap master chief of the base called me. So I got to call the master chief of work on like my senior E9 that I worked for him. Like, Hey,

my chief, this is what's going on. He's like, well, what do you want to do? I'm like, well, right now they're not even in NSW yet. Right. They haven't gone to buds yet. They're, they're still in the Navy. I'm like, if we were preaching character and integrity in my, in my right mind, I can't let these guys go. Like, it's just not the right thing to do, especially at this level. Like they've been in the Navy for like four weeks or whatever. Like if we're letting them go with entirety, like basic integrity shit from here, it's like, we can't do it. So it was like fucking miserable, like signing, like,

kicking 44 kids out of this class. I'm like one by one, I've got to have like how many were in the class. I started with like typical class would start about 200 or so. That's the seals or the seal candidates, the sweat candidates. We would have a handful of fleet returnees that are going or maybe a couple of transfer like marine guys that are going to go to bud. So every enlisted guy that went to buds at that point came through that schoolhouse. So they roughly 200. So typically we only lose like eight to 10 max.

on a like a big class for the pre for pre buds yeah I mean the attrition rate for buds is I don't think it's changed much like one percent maybe it's like it's still 80 of the kids aren't making it through when you went through versus when you're an instructor were the class sizes different or were they always like yeah smaller I think I think we started my first phase with 120-ish somewhere in that ballpark and we graduated 22 21 22 and

14 of those were the original class that didn't get rolled back. So now they're starting like 180 to 200. I don't know what it is now, but it's much higher numbers. When you're rolling those out, what is that like –

we'll go back to like yeah we love your entire thing because that's what we'll go back to but with you see it now with like what you went through and how you're treated versus oh this is how it's handled now do you see a big shift from when you got out or is it the same standard kind of same standard i mean and it's funny because when you go through like hell week is chaos the whole time when you're going through like oh my god what the fuck like shit's going everywhere

When I go back 20 years later as an instructor or observer, like it is scripted to the second, like, okay, we're gonna have the guys in the water at this time. It's 52 degrees. The wind is this, uh,

They can only be in the water for 68 seconds. It's like down to the second. As a student going through, and you don't know this, like, yeah. They can't kill me? Well, it turns out they can. Or you can. Wasn't there a kid who, like, recently, a couple years ago, like, had a heart attack or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, I mean, for that, there's a lot of other shit. I hear that joke still going over your head. But, no, for that one, it was, that kid had been taken...

stuff that you wish it had taken and it was a whole lot of other stuff that was self-induced and they anyway maybe tried to pin it on some guys but it yeah anyway it's a big story that i don't want to get in details i don't really know all the details too much um going sorry going from like a pre i'll say pre-internet seal to being a instructor post-internet and being popular was do you think that uh

to information is like hurting or helping the new recruits coming through? Like, do you think you had it better off not knowing anything about what you were getting into? Or do you think they have it better off kind of knowing what they're getting into? I would say yes or no. And this is how I'd say is like, yes, I had it better off because I had no clue I was getting into and I just sucked it up and did it.

Now the kids like the access to information, like physically and mentally, these guys are fucking way out of my, like I wouldn't even probably classify for a, for a contract now. Like we're getting our average kids coming in at the time was 22, 23, 60 to 70% of them already had a four year degree. They understood nutrition. They understood how to work out. Like,

In the 90s, we were just breaking dudes because we were like, how the fuck is this? Run faster if we got to run faster or run farther. That was when it was like drinking water. You're like, that's her. Yeah. I was like, oh, that kills people. Yeah. You show up to team four. You're like, fuck, we're going to party until 4 a.m. and then get up and run for eight miles or whatever. It's like not smart from how we're like longevity standpoint. So I think today's candidates across the military are much smarter, much more capable than we were.

Age of information. It really does. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's just I mean, what we've learned from like 9-11 just on longevity of the operator side of it.

I mean, fuck, I would love to have a dietician and physical therapy. Like we got it later on, but by that point I'm already broken. Oh yeah. It's like, you know, rewind 20 years and get that shit when I'm 21. Like, Hey, we're gonna teach how to eat and why macronutrient, like all the different pieces are important and mitochondria, like all this crap is important. That'd been awesome.

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I actually do have a question for you. So my old platoon sergeant from Afghanistan, he was a ranger instructor. Now, I'm not comparing ranger school to Buzz or anything else like that, but he said that after a while... Yes, you are. Well, he said after a while doing the job, you could pick the ones that you were relatively confident were going to be able to get through. I would say maybe there, but in... Sometimes it's... They've actually done it where it's like...

It's a toss-up because you look at a dude and you're like, I guarantee they're like, oh, he's going to suck at road marching or these things. Yeah, I sucked at running because I'm fucking a midget. Dude, same. Sorry, short people. Road marching can suck a cock at 135 pounds. Like a little Mexican Eli, I was like,

18 inch legs on a soft sand. I'm just fucking done. Just go start hammering me. Cause I'm not going to pass. I was like, I'm six, two and I'm like stepping it out. Just trying to get on the road. And the tall dudes are like, why don't you just step longer? Like seven foot tall. And you're like, cool. It's like three steps for one of yours. No, but it's, and I try not to, I mean, every now and you would get some, you can just tell like character wise. I just, they don't have it for what we need to do.

But, yeah, I mean, you'd have these little skinny kids. You're like, there ain't no way he's going to stay warm. And they pass. And then same thing on the other side. Super motivated high school quarterback, like supreme athlete, doesn't know how to fucking lose at things. Can I tell a quick story? Yeah, jump in there. Get in there on the mic, homie. Sit down. Sit on my lap. On my lap.

So a friend of mine in Terry's, for instance, the difference between like the Rangers. This is Kevin, by the way. Uncle Kevin. Uncle Kevin. He touches me. No, I don't. Move your hand. Maybe touch your arm. He's like, now my hands are uncomfortable. The difference between, because most of my career has been working with these guys. And, you know, the difference between

Let's say the Rangers or the Whiteside Seals and the Tier 1 groups. You know, there's a lot of examples of it, but a friend of mine, Terry, that was on the green side, he was at 39 years old, wounded severely in combat in Iraq. And both arms, like for instance, one arm, 21 surgeries to repair it.

So he's almost 40 years old. And so he's on the green side and he wants to deploy again. He's one of a few set of brothers that's ever been in that. And he wanted to go back and deploy and they were worried about it. And so his deal was, okay, go through ranger school. And if you can pass that, we'll consider letting you deploy.

And so at 40 years old, after like 60 surgeries he had from his wounds, he's got more holes in him than anyone in the history of the green side. He finished first in his class. God damn. It's mind your school. Yeah. Yeah. At that age, after those wounds, he's like three years of surgery and rehab. And then went back and deployed for a few years before he retired just to show he could do it. You know, it was like a mental thing for him. And so he,

So in asking him, and he's been a friend of mine for 20 years, and he looks like a gay waiter. He doesn't look like some badass. And, you know, in asking him, he's got a little lisp, too. But he is the most badass guy in the world.

And he just like wanted to do it. He wanted to prove it to himself. And that's what they told him. So it's interesting going from, you know, like elite groups like the Rangers or Whiteside Seals to the tier one groups and the difference, you know, out of 100 guys, one or two can be here. And him at that age went and did it and kicked the shit out of everyone that goes back into poison and retires.

And it's like, that's how special. And I think it gets lost a lot of times. And we're like, oh, Navy SEALs. Navy SEALs, that's awesome. But going from Navy SEALs to the next level, that's just like one in a thousand. And, you know, so Terry's humble about it. And Terry's very short and probably couldn't do it now. Hell no. I wouldn't want to. But at his age. I had to join the Army. It's easier. But no. Like how fucking cool that is. And, you know, and I remember this guy who did this.

He told me he's like his entire life from T-ball until through Rangers, special forces until his way to the tier one group was like, he was always the best at anything he did, whether it was baseball, football, basketball, like anything, athletic track and field. He was always number one without trying. And he's like always such a bad-ass. And he's like, he told me, he's like, I remember when I went through selection and

And then when he was selected and he goes to his group that the rest of his career, he had to try and work hard as hell to be average. And that's just like, that's those guys. I mean, my entire career has been working with these guys and they would be great at anything. That's where like you or any of the other guys, it's like you get to know them and everything. And their brothers in the NFL or their brothers in major league baseball, their brother runs Amazon.

or whatever the hell it is. It's like, oh, these guys would be successful at anything they did. And I think that's the difference. You know, it's physical and it's also cognitive.

But that will, too. Yeah, I'm not going to quit. And, yeah, I'll go kick the shit out of all these 22-year-old Army guys that think they want to be Rangers. Just because you said I couldn't do it. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so that's it. So I think it gets lost, and these guys sometimes are too humble. And for me, I want smart kids that are badasses who want to grow up to be Navy SEALs or I want them to grow up to be in Army Special Forces. It's great because when we go kill dudes, we want the best dudes to go do it.

Absolutely. Yeah. Definitely mentality. And so a bunch of your teammates have told me like the Charlie Sheen Navy SEAL movie is what inspired them to become Navy SEALs. Drinking and cocaine. Why not? Well, that settles it for me. Dude, no, wait, hold on. Go ahead. The simple fact, dude, 40 years old and going through ranger school after getting fucked up in war.

Not that guy. 70. I would hands down just be tapping. I'm too old. 70 holes.

dog no i'm not waking up like you're starving at 40 i'll be honest i'd be mad if i got shot the 70th one is the worst you could have stopped at 69 hilarious thank god you know god damn it why you put me on podcasts with people like this man

I was in my chair a couple weeks ago and moved wrong and I had to like decide between either getting to my truck or calling an ambulance okay like my back just locked up on me in my chair in my office yeah it was like right in the middle of my spine and I was like oh I was like trying to reach my phone on the desk and I couldn't I was like oh oh it was not no and then that I'm sold though I have a new goal what is it hearing Kevin's speech

So, how old are you? 51. 51. All right, we can do it. So, if you don't know, the first time Ethan came on, this is like his fifth appearance at least. The first time he came on, he was going to finish out his 20 years. And on the podcast, I openly said, I'm going to get you to quit your job. And six weeks later, he quit.

We went through numbers. We did some analytics. He's four years out from retiring. Yeah. Are you retiring still? No. I'm looking at a med board. They want to open up my other hip. They already opened up one of both my knees. I'm like, you know what? I'm used up. I'm going to just walk. I'm good. I'll go make YouTube videos. I'm not that guy. I'm not that 40-year-old. You know, semi-surgeon. Like, no one's going to be like, man, Ethan's badass. He'll be like, that fat fuck is funny. You know what's cool, too? So this individual...

now retired is a CEO of a company in our, in our industry, which, so he retires from that and then goes on to, he wants to work in the industry. And that was a CEO of a company that, uh,

helps those guys to do what they do. So even in that regard, he rose to the top. He's built different. He's like, I'm not the cream that rises to the top. I'm the cream that's curdled at the bottom of the coffee. I know my place in this world.

My point is, I reverse recruited him. True. We're going to recruit you and get you to join the military again. That sold me on it. I don't know if I could. I think I might be aged out by now. They'll make an exception. You're on unsub now. Yeah.

I don't know. You can wake up in basic. No. I think we've got a general coming on soon that might be able to wave that. Just to get you back in the swing of things, we'll have Eli go up, find you in the middle of the night with a red flashlight and say you got fire guard.

Oh, both of them right there. Do you know how much money I would pay if we could secretly film him going to just a regular Army basic training at like Fort Jackson? I'll just go to the recruiter and see if he'll sign me up. At 51? You know how funny that would be? Play it dumb during all of the training. I don't know if my knees can handle all that short little shuffle run crap they do. We don't say a thing until a week later.

15, when you actually are on platform and you have your rack of medals on...

He's in his class A showing up to all these private tridents. How are you in boot camp with an E9? Let me tell you a little story. You ever hear of blue to green? What are these tridents? Federal sergeants don't even have deployment patches. They stay in parade all night. Once they see them, they're like... He walks in and they all just look at each other. We fucked up. And he

Everyone's terrified of Terry. It's like Undercover Boss. That would be fun. That would be so funny. I love this idea. It's so good.

Oh, shit. You're clean-shaded. You're like, I fucking hate this. I probably look like a baby. I haven't had this beard for years. I probably would look young. You're 35. It's your first time through basic training. You're a namey dude. I just made the age cut off. You're a line cook at Waffle House. You just had a divorce. You're looking for a new start. The judge gave me two options. I'm just specific, man. Oh.

dude I remember those 35 year olds in basic I've said it dude I got the luckiest basic training like period joined we had 40 people 42 28 of them were e4s because they're all college grads oh yeah so everyone else was like an e3 so the drill sergeants at the end were like y'all really squared away

Thank you. That was it. Like, we had a radio since week three. They let us walk. I remember going to meds at basic and they're like, oh, the kill zone is like, what's a kill zone? Like in the middle of the aisle where you can't step. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like, well, you can walk in the middle of your barracks. Yeah.

Like, you guys don't have a radio either? They were looking at us like, what the fuck? What did you guys fuck up? Yeah, we had no idea. And it was just a wild thing. Meanwhile, I'm at Fort Knox, Kentucky with 120 retards, man. I swear we were on Red Cycle the entire time. Watching other plus two and two. And I was like, why is music playing at three in the morning? You look out, it's like lights are turning on, turning off. It's like, oh, they're playing.

Aims up there. They earned something. Now, when you did, you were Buds. And then what group did you go with? What team were you with initially? Yeah, so I graduated Buds, went to SEAL Team 4. Back in, so I got there in 90, October 93, I believe it was. Yep, so Team 4, two points, South America. Awesome time, like South America in the 90s was awesome. Serve, hang out with locals. Dollar was strong, so you could take all your local dudes you're training,

to dinner and drinks and it was like 30 bucks or whatever. Oh, dude. Yeah, two appointments down. I love South America. I don't know about now, but probably worth going back there now. Kevin, I'm sure there's something down there we can go kill in Ecuador. Don't laugh like that. Animal-wise. That was the look of a pirate. It's awesome.

No, it's off the coast of Somalia. You're thinking of... Oh, Nick was finding out we were going to South Africa. He's like, we're going to Africa next year. Nick's like, to hunt pirates? I'm like, what? That is a thing. Yeah. I'm aware. That's why I said it. Yeah. Kevin, stop nodding. Kevin's got, I got to vote. Yeah.

The game kills people. Here we go. Never boxing exclusive. I think Disney's going to get mad when I steal the Pirates of the Caribbean soundtrack. Just the outfit. What?

You got to have the eye shadow. A six chamber, blackout trifle hat. Oh, shit. Jesus Christ. Every time I feel like we've peaked on Unsub, I come back for another episode. Nah, we'll fuck that line. We're going to go even further. So you were still team four out the gate. And then you worked up to how many years until where you landed? So five years. And at that point, my list went up.

I'm like, okay, get out. I guess I never really thought about making a career of it. And my girlfriend then, my wife now, she's like, well, I'm not. Still? Yeah. No, no, it's awesome. She's awesome. Anyway, yeah, it's like, well, I'm not going anywhere. I'm like, well, if you're not going anywhere, I guess I'll go reenlist. And if I reenlist, I'm going to try out for this development group thing. She's like, what is it? I'm like, fuck, I don't know. But it's funny because I think I was telling one of the guys earlier, it's like my first and second platoon chief are both from there.

But they never really talked about what it was, what they did, anything else. It was just kind of understood that you do your time at Team 4 for your first appointment, and then you try to go to Green Team and keep progressing on. So, again, no idea what I was really getting into other than that's just the next level to go to.

yeah so i went to green team in 98 and i love you just don't know they said it was cool yeah it's fortunate because i didn't really know what to expect so i had no expectations of what i was getting into i just showed up and did the work and was like kevin saying i was average at best in green team but i was

i didn't anything up and no safety violations i didn't kill anybody so i made it through it was average at being 0.00 of the top yeah dude all the guys like my old first aren't it was until uh some of the cat guys came out we were training at the other ranch here and they just came out and like oh they were fans of content shooting i was like oh i think my old first heart uh he made

He did the long walk and like, who's your first arm? I was like, oh, CJ. And they're like, get the fuck out. You know, so he was like, yeah. He was like first arm in nine years. Like he was with a range, second bat, and then just like sped through everything. So train us up and then out. And then when he...

The stories they were telling me, I was like, I did not know that, CJ. That is a different CJ than I knew. It's funny because I did two deployments, and this was pre-anything really going on other than we're doing FID or Foreign Internal Defense, training locals, doing a little bit of counter-drug stuff but not anything crazy. I'm like, oh, I'm pretty cool. I know what I'm doing. I've been in for five years, and then you show up over there, and you're like, your peer group at that point, you're like, oh, fuck, this is...

Like the cream of the crop. Like some of the guys I had in my green team were just absolute legends. I'm like, I got to really step up my shit. Like I thought I was cool at team four, but like not here. Always a bigger fish. Yeah. Oh yeah. And I was, and I was the youngest guy in the class. So I was the baby. How old were you at this point? Uh, 25. How long have you been with your wife? Uh, so I've been married 26 years. I think you got kids. Yeah. Yep.

So, I mean, you were cut out. I think I got you in that ballpark. We're over the 25 year now. So, I mean, you were, you were top, top of the line, everything by the time the internet was around and before anybody even knew what that was. Is there a point where your wife and or your kids like turn around? Wait, hold on.

dad does that well it just kind of grew they grew up like that so my wife she's from that well it's not from the community but we started dating when I was a team four so she's just been around seals in that community and other girlfriends why so she just understood what was going on and when 9-11 kicked off it was a whole different world like we didn't have kids at that point so it's like hey I'm going here I don't know when I'm coming back

And she just got in that cycle like every nine months Terry's taking off. And then we had our first kid and I would come home and I would try to be the best that I could when I'm home. And then I'm gone for 200 days a year or whatever it's going to be from training and deployments and everything else. It's super strong lady and super awesome. And I'm lucky to have her. I mean, we had struggles like everybody else does, but yeah.

i think i was lucky because i was gone so much that by the time she got tired of my i would leave for a while then she's okay you come back home and i come home i piss her off again like oh i'm gone again but you being home is her deployment yeah exactly yeah but yeah this i don't know where i was going with that but yeah so it's it's i don't know where that question was but yeah oh i just like i mean was there ever like so your wife knew but i mean when you started having kids like was there a

where one of your kids came in and was like, oh shit, my dad's way cooler than I thought. Chuck Norris. No, man, never. Remember shit? And they were like, hey, I wonder if my

oh we're going to get to that it's funny because my girls are never impressed like dad's dad like she knew what i did and my friends and those poor boyfriends yeah i was about to say like they go to school and they're like we just don't talk about what dad does and it was funny because like my daughter she was probably third grade or whatever my wife tells the story she was at school doing something and it's like okay what's your dad do so well we

We don't talk about that. And teachers are like, oh, dad's an asshole. We probably beat the wife and her divorce or whatever.

Then she's like, okay, how? And then eventually my daughter's like, dad's in Iraq killing bad guys or whatever it was. And she's just like, oh, okay, we're just not going to ask questions. But it's funny because there's always programs that just don't talk about where dad goes or when he's gone. That's what's crazy is a lot of people, like we had, when you guys deployed, even when I deployed, it was such different ops tech versus...

you didn't get the chance to you couldn't say when you were deploying at those first year like first year two years the only one was different our first iraq deployment was so three the you know everything kicks off we four deploy our green brothers over there they're doing a different mission than we're doing the wmd stuff that was probably the only deployment for like 60 to 90 days to where we didn't call home

The command people would keep them involved. Like, hey, the guys are deployed. Everybody's fine. Like, they would keep them up to date. But that was probably the only window out of the 26 years that I didn't talk to her at some point. And she didn't really know what was going on. I mean, obviously, we watched the news. She knew what was going on, but she had no idea, like, really where we were. But outside of that, it was once a week or once every couple weeks, like, whatever I could. We would call or email. We had emails back then. I'm not that old, but...

Yeah. So it's, but it was funny. I think the best thing that she ever did was she never got sucked into the whole wife's network. We call it the pink squad and whatever you want to call it. Like the bitchiness, like, Oh, my husband did this. And like, she never put up with that bullshit. She's like, Hey, she had her friends.

she made really good friends with other navy wives that were not in the command so she just didn't put up with that which saved me a lot of problems we call them depend upon them yeah depend upon them this is like no my wife's hot so she yeah it's that frg group where you're like oh yeah yeah my wife actively like every time anything happens at work and like they do mandatory fun she either a doesn't show up or b she like

Goes out of her way. Does the minimum? Yes. Well, like she just tries to make it miserable for everybody else there. Like it'll be for the kids and she'll like go and take all the pizza and just walk away with it. Like fuck the kids. She's like, you make me be here. I don't want to be here. Get your ass out of here. Yeah. Holy shit. It is. When, um, after you got there, after like running, um,

there's so many questions. Like, dude, all the different stuff. Oh, dude, I just love it. Like, I get so excited with this shit because we don't get to talk about it much. It's like, we were talking, I was telling Nick, I was like, again, you were telling about like ThermoBear grenades and then AT4 ThermoBear AT4s. We did not get to discuss that last time. I was like,

I've heard of the CQB AT4. Yeah. If you're not familiar with the thermal barricade. Yeah, I was on that podcast too. There's a thermal barricade one. Yeah, I was like, bro, you guys get the coolest fucking weapon platform. Oh, yeah. You want to drop a building quick, launch one of those things through the window, and the game is over.

But I mean, that's, you know, I was telling somebody who's like, poob. What's the new one? Our new merch for the podcast is going to be a cartoon drawing of the AT-4 and it's going to say, I have the talking stick. I have the talking tube. Like the old Australian like ring things. Yeah. You better send me one. Yeah, I mean, drop a building with an AT-4, throw a beret, it's fucking awesome.

When did you first get introduced to this weapons platform? That one, that was a big on the breacher side of it. I never got to shoot one, shot one, shoot one. I don't know. You tell us. You're for the right, right? Either can be right to us. Yeah. So I never got to shoot one, but some of the other guys did. And it's, yeah, that's probably, I was in Iraq when I first saw it. So that's probably mid,

Five, six, seven, somewhere near ballpark. So we'll go fact checking and be like, this is when it was invented. But no, no one in this community is going to be like, that dude's a hero. I'm going to be honest. Knowing this random shit's my job. I've never heard of it. Thermal Mercury T4? No.

To give you an idea, I did a video on the... Now you got me questioning. Maybe it was a different rocket. You let me know if we have to cut that out. Oh, we can say whatever. Somebody will fact check and they'll do that. Oh, no, that was a Carl... Did they make a Carl Gustav version of it? Maybe it was that. I don't know. Do you remember... Have you seen the Hellfire missile that's just kinetic with the katanas in it? Huh. They make a Hellfire missile with no ordnance and it just has eight katanas that flail out and it's just direct impact for when you want to hit one dude. Yeah.

Like literally the front seat of a car. One car with no casualties or whatever. We killed some Ben Caliban leader. Yeah, he was out on his balcony. He would go out on his balcony every morning to drink coffee and just...

right on his belly. Just like a manhole cover. Muck 1.3. Razor. Katanas. And I did a video on it and it was never on Wikipedia or anything. And like four days later it was on Wikipedia. So thermal barric grenade coming soon to Wikipedia. Thermal barric ATM. Get it. Do we need those legalized? Yeah.

It's wild, all those different weapon platforms. Uncle Sam goes all in, man. Some of the shit we make. The shit we started making after 01, when we first got over there, like Predator, like all that ISR shit, we didn't have any of that stuff. 01, 02, 03, it's like, what's in there? Best guess, we'll figure it out. I know units today that if they got dropped in a foreign country and said, all right, here's a map, you need to figure out where the hell you're going, they would shit their pants. Oh, yeah, it's terrible. Well,

it's good from the fact that we have that technology and we can leverage it to keep guys as safe as we can but also bad like hey if the chinese knock out all our fucking satellites how are you going to fucking solve the problem that's over dependence that's a wonderful point i was working with training we trained to that now with the guys so it's absolutely that's good man bro yeah that all of them well not now i'd be like i don't know

I was working with an M316. Did you say you were an ASVAB? ASVAB. ASVAB. I remember this. One, two, three. Get my mirror. I hated that shit. Does it look any different than a normal AT4 or is it just the round inside that's different? Not even a question. Like, that's a long time ago. I had a lot of drinks since then. I'm sure there's something on the side that says, don't fucking drop this.

Because I know that, like, the CQB one had, like, a water charge on the back that would take care of most of the back blast. You were learning all this random shit. It is one of those crazy things, because it's, like, what you guys do. Another random fucking thing. Did you do Halo while you were in? Like...

Dude, this is the hardest. It is the craziest thing to me is your halo school. If people do not do a wind tunnel or know the training and you trained on a wooden board and it was right. Yeah. You're like spinning around, you know, skydiving. Bro, like, this is the only thing I could never understand. It was a wooden board and they're like, no, higher.

Push your dick into arch it. And then they're like, and hook out of the fucking plane. No. You figure it out.

Yeah, how? How the f***? Because it took me three days of tunnel time to figure it out and I was just slamming against the f***ing wall. He did tummy time. Tunnel time, it's fine. This is not tunnel time. They just chuck you out and you're like... Yeah, back in the old days, we ended up in... So I went through Free Fall in Green Team. So we had the tunnels and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, I remember the old guys were like, on my little skydive board, like, oh, we're going to do a formation. And they're scrolling around like a little creeper for under your car.

Cause when it's a lot more difficult than you think. Yeah. Until you get the feel. I mean, once you get the feel of it, then the easiest thing in the world, then you strap a lot of shit on and I'm short and I'm small. So you start strapping all that shit on. I got like little hands sticking out, trying to fly. Yeah. I'm like, you get little hands in my feet. Hopefully I'm falling straight. I can't tell. We had, when we did free fall, we were with, um,

clint trials clint was part of uh you know clinton and it's awesome we were jumping with clint and his team was there so like it was his first jump since the the incident

And I hop in. I finally barely floating. And then Clint is in the tunnel with me. He's like, wow, this is... Clint don't have no legs. And he's out flying me. I was like, you're cheating. First off, way easier with no legs. Let's drag, bitch. And he's just like doing twirls. I was like, god damn it, dude. It's the hardest thing in the world. I...

I love that you know Clint. That was awesome. Love him. Clint is supposed to come on too. That'll be fun. We'll have you on with Clint too. Why not? It's just all the dudes. Let's get Clint, Marcus, Latrell. When Clint comes on, it's like, hey, what'd you fuck up to lose your legs? What'd you do wrong? No. Clint, when he landed, he flared too early. He had a fall. I was like, Clint, you fuck.

not good we're gonna do it again i gotta re-record that he's like you dude so we got we got thermal barrett grenades thermal barrack at-4s what other exciting did you get exposed to oh man i mean all the advancements of like weapon systems and ammunition like all that stuff was driven from the the special operations side so you'd name it like

What was, I mean, you were there for the period you were in, you saw a pretty rapid advancement. And I was, I was very lucky on my timing. So I came in, in the nineties, nothing's going on. Got to learn how to be a seal, learn how to do my job well before nine 11 kicked off. So by time nine 11 kicked off, I'm nine, 10 years in the Navy. I already know the job.

So now we start adding complexity of now we're in fucking Afghanistan. We don't have X, Y, and Z, but we're just figured out. Like stress level is good. And then a bunch of awesome appointments, slowing down, getting into the leadership position. And as everything kind of starts slowing down in the world and changing to whatever we got today, it's like, I'm out. Time's up. I'm old. I'm good. Yeah. Like timing wise is awesome. I got to see the heyday of all that stuff. Yeah. You got to see...

I got to do my job. You got to do, like, war as fuck. Like, I mean, initial push, that was... There's...

I don't get into dick measuring confidence. I mean, don't get me wrong. I was in Afghanistan, but I was in RC South, so I don't mess with people who've been to RC East. And people who did initial push into Iraq or Afghanistan, I'm like, nope, you're dick bigger. South was 40 for a while, depending on where you're at. I was 10, 11. Oh, 10, 11, yeah? Yeah. I mean, it was more IEDs than direct contact. There was a lot of IEDs down there. The guys in the East were getting hit like every time. Yeah, it goes six, seven. We started really pushing on them. It was fun. I was part of that big push that Obama did to try to end the war where they just threw like,

what is it 15 20 000 extra troops in afghanistan i was part of that and have fun with that entire like the surge and you're just fighting it you're like hey oh oh this is poor um i got dibs on that one it's fine this is not a word was it were there any new like weapon systems or equipment that you guys had to test out that you just absolutely hated and they were trying to make yeah like the whole fucking thing was luckily like where we were at

Eli loves a SCAR. Talk shit about it. I hate it. They sent us 12 of the tests and we broke every single one of them. With the stock open, it blows up and springs go flying. What the fuck is this thing? It's government approved. That was a little SOCOM project. We fell under SOCOM but we didn't have to follow there. We went the 417 route with H&K. Outside of that, we had a lot of

flexibility on what we used, you know, within, within the law. Right. But yeah, we get the, we got the pick stuff. I've got you. Yeah. Like the whole 300 black. I was like, Hey, we have a, a problem. We need to solve this. So we go out to industry and like, I'll help to solve that problem of,

Subsonic heavy because 5.56 subsonic just doesn't work. Were you part of this conversation where it was like, hey, we have the MP5 SD. We have 9 mil. Can we even say that? I don't know where we're allowed to talk about your content. I was like, wait, can we talk about that? No? I was like, bleep it. I think you're trying to take a drink at the same time. Yeah.

But it is. Uh, it was so like you had like five, five, six HK four, 16, four, whatever. And then, uh, SPDs or SDs. And then you have approach with 300 blackout, right? It came from a problem set of needing a very quiet solution to a problem. Five, five, six, not there. One of the guys in the office was talking, well, John, John needs to come down here and do this stuff. Like talk about history stuff. John knows all this stuff. He built all my guns, but, uh,

John, you're welcome on here. Yeah, so the Whisper stuff. It was combat development. Yeah. He works for us now. Yeah. Kevin's just hiring the best of people. That's why I love it. But it was a problem. We needed a subsonic solution to kill bad guys. The HEK MP5 9mm doesn't really do it. 5.56, you can't slow down enough to be subsonic and still be lethal. So some of the guys were talking about Whisper, and John was talking about this, and it was about the same time Kevin was looking at it.

And it just happened to be like the perfect storm of we have a problem. They're flexible and fast enough to solve this problem. And it gave us the 300 blackout, which everybody in the world has now, right? Yeah. So it's stuff like that. It's like, hey, we have an issue. Go out to industry and solve it. How was it? They were never really forced to. Like SOCOM tried to force that scar on. And they did on the white side, guys. But we never had to deal with it.

And then how was that dealing with like the, like the honey badger essentially when it was just, cause we didn't know, civilian market didn't know for how long. Yeah. The honey badger went to the green guys. We just, we rebuilt just essentially M4 uppers or we bought M4 uppers in the 300 black house. We just swap it out. Like,

hey i got my recce gun now i got my my 300 blackout upper or whatever it's going to be just plug and play and as i think you were talking about it kind of it's like you went from an eight pound five ounce uh mp5 to a 5.5 ounce yeah so on the blackout you could as a sniper a recce guy up front you could load top five rounds subsonics and if it goes south just roll right in your supersonics

And you have a round this fucking job. Is this how people feel when I talk about missiles? Because I'm like, so you guys are the science behind it. Your tism is tickling. And I'm just like, rounds and bullets and subsonic and supersonic. And then what year this is getting developed? Like where you start rolling? 10, 10, 11, something like that. Yeah, we used it. It's going to take over real fucking quick. And I guarantee it was awesome, especially because like our main, from the National Mission Force, our main job was hostage rescue at sea.

So if I'm climbing over the side of a ship and there's 500 people on board, now we've got a 200 grain bullet that's going to go through a person, but it's not going to go through a wall or anything else. I can address an issue up close, not worried about what's necessarily behind it. And then having rounds bouncing down the steel hallway like a 5-5-6 round. And really extremely loud in those environment, I'm assuming. Yeah.

not the ear pro days that we have now yeah well I mean yeah suppressed everything is the way to go now I'm still in a steel suppressors when I was younger because my ears suck the funny part to me that I'm still hung up on is like I can't fathom the level of badass you have to be for the United States government to trust you to change the uppers and calibers and different bullets

they're in a different military yeah the average the average infantryman would never be allowed knock on wood I don't think we ever blew up an upper we can fund some of this development like hey five five six is great for a lot of stuff but like the old green tip bullets or FMJ bullets just don't fucking work on people

So let's develop a bullet that fits into the gun. Like we've got a 77 grain, like 70 grain, like all these different variations of five, five, six. It came out over there. Like the gray, much more lethal. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know those were a thing until I was handed a lot of grit for like, huh? Those are. Yeah. And that's what, you know, came into the short barrel three of white stuff was,

And I racked, and this was 05, 06. We're in and out of vehicles, like Pandas or Strikers or whatever it is. And it is literally, like, in dispatch, right? So we've got SR-25s, which are awesome guns, but they're long as shit. Like, I can't get in and out effectively. I need to still kill people at 500 yards. So we just started chopping barrels. Like, John's like, oh, here's a 12-inch barrel. Try that. And

weren't allowed to do that with our yeah so we went through a bunch of different variations and then like okay the sr as awesome as it is it's not going to be that solving that short barrel gas gun 308 that gives me that well what this does now but back then we were just experimenting and that led into the 417 you know the 308s and all the other that came out of that

Which bleeds over into the civilian market all the time. Well, it's like going back to the ocean. This is like what? There was a movie about your stuff.

Are you allowed to discuss it? We can hit the highest points. High points? How was it? Did you like that movie? I keep saying I got to go back and watch it because we're talking Cap Phillips. So I was part of that. Thankfully, I loved it. Of my almost 30-year career, there was two movies.

two missions where we brought americans home that i was on like captain phil's one and then jessica lynch was the other one like i was part of both of those you were part of jessica lynch one of like the hundreds of people over there holy but like oh yeah now playing one of the hundreds of people that all the stuff that we do that's exactly that's exactly why we do our jobs like our job is to bring americans home right number one like kill bad guys are awesome but if if there's a chance to bring an american home we do that

Yeah, so Captain Phillips, I was forward deployed to Eastern Africa doing some work over there. Small team of guys. And my boss calls me. I'm in another country away from the rest of the guys doing some work for some three-letter guys. And my boss calls me. It's like 8 o'clock at night or something. He's like, hey, are you watching the news? I'm like, no, sir. Obviously, I'm not. I'm working at the bar or wherever I was at. So I get back to the hotel, turn the news on. I'm like, oh, fuck. So I call him like,

Do I gotta come back? Like what's going on? I was like, no, just keep an eye on it. There's nothing we can do at this point. There's too far out to see. Fast forward, like 5:30 in the morning, phone calls like, we need you back here now. So I don't know if you guys have ever been to Africa, but it's not easy to get from one country to the next.

All the time. It's one of our big... Nick, what's your passport? Get me your fastest Toyota. So unlike the movies, there's no black helicopters that are meeting me on the street and flying me to the embassy. Can I say the movie quote without you murdering me here real quick? Life's like a box of chocolate. No. You ain't got no legs. I am the captain now. I'm just one chirp. That's funny because I get that meme every year on my birthday. It's awesome. It's awesome.

So it takes me like all day to get back to the embassy, get in there, get the debrief. And luckily the rest of my team, like my team, like six guys,

or they're doing the brief. I got my CCTT and my PJ guys with their briefing, the Bain Bridge, because we're going to jump in, sit down, do the whole thing. And my boss at this point is like, hey, all we need to do, or your job until everybody else gets there, is just to keep Cap Phillips in the boat, out to sea. Don't let him get to shore. Because when they're out there, I have a self-contained little problem in a boat. We know what we have. It's

It's a little bit of variables, but it's very dealable or doable or whatever you want to call it. English is not my... I need another one of these. You are the captain now. Get this man out of here. Yeah. Yeah, whatever it is. I might steal one of your white claws. Yeah, fire it up. You're a senior. But yeah, so we get over there. We do the debriefs. We get all the way back across there, jump in the plane, fly to the coast, get all our gear, parachutes, guns, all this stuff. We jump in the airplane and we fly out.

At this point, it's April. I think it's April. So April in Indian Ocean, there's a lot of thunderstorms. So you skydive before it. So then one of the number, well, there's a lot of rules I broke, but one of the rules was in normal military free fall, you have to be able to see the DZ. And when we're jumping into the water, I have to be able to see my ground crew.

So we're out there, we're buzzing out and we're here at like essentially the max range of what this aircraft will do. Pilot comes on, we do a couple of passes. I've got the sensor operators in the back and they're like, we can hear the guys on radio because we can, we're talking to them. We know they're here somewhere. We just can't see them physically. And then we're doing a pass. Pilot comes on and say, Hey, we've, we're about then go on fuel. We probably did another pass. And then, uh, then we're gonna have to come home. There's, we have no other options.

And about that same time, he's telling me that on radio. Clouds break a little bit. I see a wake. Sensor operator slings it over a little bit, and I just see the tail fan of the Bainbridge. I'm like, fuck, and Matt's on the back. We already got the green light to go because we know we're close. I'm like, go. So we just run out of there as fast as we can to skydive in and

Everybody's safe and we made it to the boat. What's the winds? We're like 4,500 feet or so. We're low. It is a fucking pop. Literally, you're dropping up. Go down. Just for reference, if you're doing this commercial, you're jumping at like 15 to 20 and you're opening at 5,500. He's saying you are jumping out and going like this.

Okay. 1,000, 2,000. Was it stat? No. This is 1,000, 2,000. Fuck the SEALs, dude. Yeah. It's not the Marine Corps or the Rangers or any of that shit.

Dude, this is like you're jumping out the back. You're not hitting the slide. You're hitting the slide in a media like, yeah, one, two, wave, pull. Everyone get in formation. Holy, you're jumping. Terry, where'd you land? In Indian Ocean. No sharks. No sharks. Why didn't you go to land on the boat? Why didn't you? Because the boat hurts when you're skydiving. The water is soft.

It's wet. I like the wet stuff. The wet stuff is nice. No, no, no. Okay, I'm terrified of the ocean because I watch a lot of documentaries. You think middle of the goddamn night in a storm, I'm going to land in the Indian Ocean. How do your balls fit in your pants, sir? Like, man, no, no. You couldn't catch me? Nope. I just myself. Fuck it. It's not a seal no more. That's not me.

You just run out and you're like, look! Not doing it, man. It's funny because, again, like the rules that we maybe bent a little bit. So I had two army guys that were with me in East Africa. And I chose not to take them. And I get shit for us all the time from the Admiral now and some of the army guys. And my justification at the time was these guys didn't have all the gear they needed.

we were jumping into the water at night they never jumped into the water at night and have never jumped into the water period like it was stacking and then our parachutes throughout a day like there's a lot of like stacking compounding factors that like that sounds so good like I just we're bending enough rules that I know the guys I've been training with where we can solve the problem but now bringing the two guys that are unfamiliar with a lot of the stuff and the gear shortage and fluid like it just wasn't there so I got a lot of for that but what I mean

It's probably the right call. Like the last thing you want to have to worry about is trying to help some dude get married. For what we were doing, the problem we were solving, I had three other team guys, two other enlisted team guys, a JO that's new to the command, myself, and two Air Force guys, CCT and PJ. So for what we're doing, just keep the boat from going to the beach, we were fine. Yeah, I get shit from that. But anyway, so we get picked up, gun on the Bain Bridge.

And I'm an E7, I think, at this time. And Jonas is an E04, brand new to command. We climb up, go talk to the captain of the boat. And he's like, okay, senior chief, what do you want to do? I'm like, well, I don't know. We're going to keep the boat. He's like, how do you want to do it? Not realizing what he's asking, he's like, I've been told that you are in command of this boat.

So Jonas and I, we were in command of the two naval assets that are there. So you're the captain now. I was the captain. Holy shit! How the tides have turned! And I quickly advocated that back to the captain. I'm like, well, what would you do, sir? He's like, I would probably do this. I'm like, that's a pretty good idea. I'll trust your judgment on this. That is the most illustrative time ever. Hey, bro, what would you do? Yeah, I'm like, that's...

Fire up the Navy guns. Let's go eat. Fuck this thing. Take the ocean canoe that way. With all the other shit going on, he tells you that. You're like, how the fuck do I answer this? I don't know. I know nothing about a Navy ship other than it floats. And it's gray and there's a whole lot of miserable mothers on it. I'm not that kind of Navy. I don't know. There's a whole big tuna can full of miserable dudes. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm going to come right now. I'm sorry. You're going to be a meme on Reddit. Oh, I'm sure. Oh, Jesus. Reddit's going to love this. I don't go on Reddit, so it's fine. No, you think it's not? They're going to love you for this. They're going to be like, we're going to meme the fuck out of this. It's not real people either. It's a...

That's the name of the podcast episode, though. He's the captain now. Yeah, he's the captain now. Don't even put my picture on the thumbnail. Don't even put me on there. So we commenced to keeping a boat from going to shore and worked through and so we're talking, I probably shouldn't use names, but we lost him in extortion, so it doesn't really matter. Awesome dude, awesome dude, and all those guys are awesome, but

Off track now. But anyway, so we get up there. We spend the next, I don't know, felt like three days doing it. It was probably like a cycle of darkness. But we got there. It's night. We got the ship. We're moving around. We're essentially playing cat and mouse. It's like, I'll use these big-ass fucking 8.6 bullets. So this will be good. I can't see it here. That'll be the lifeboat, and then this will be the big ship. All we're doing is keeping them pushed out to sea.

They'd go around us and come back around. We would move the boat around and just keep them to our, it was a starboard side at that point. Just keep them out to sea. Just keep working around. They would slow down and we would spin back around like this. Is that one of Eli's bottle breacher things? It's not mine, but. No, Eli Crane. Oh, no. Eli. We actually thought it was Eli Crane's. It's a knockoff. Eli is always out. Eli also really good. We kept doing this. Kept doing this. Now we're in the daylight.

they're getting pissed off they're out of cot because they chew the cod all the shit all the time and they're out of cot they're running out of gas they're getting pissed off and at the same time we're talking to our negotiator in new york the jttf guys they're talking to the tribal leadership on the on the beach doing all this negotiation like hey we just want the captain back i don't give a about the boat or whatever else you guys can go do whatever you want to do it's working this and throughout that course a day maybe yeah later that day

They're out of cotton. Their batteries are running low on their radios. So we worked through the negotiator like, hey, let's just resupply you. We don't have cotton, but we can bring cigarettes, new batteries, all that shit. They're like, okay, we'll do that. So my team, we dress up in our little blue coveralls, navy, not dungos because they weren't dungos at that point, but blue coveralls, shove our shit down in the corners of the boat, and we're just like,

easing up to the back of the boat because we don't know where captain phillips is this is post him jumping out of the boat trying to get away at night so they've got him in there somewhere we don't know where he's at so as we pull up they crack the thing and come out they're all potted up their eyeballs are all bloodshot so the open door he comes out get the boat we're talking to and we're easing up and then from my position in the rib i can see captain phillips on the front left side of the boat he's like rigor taped or flex cuffed to the boat or to the seat like okay perfect

they're not going to untie him to do whatever. So I know wherever we're doing, where he's at. And it was super sweet because as we go up there and we're talking to those guys and then we tell the captain, like, hey, captain, the guys from Virginia Beach are here. And like his demeanor just shifted. Like he understood with all the stress that he was going through, like what that meant. So it's super cool. We did this, pass it off. We fly around. We use the helicopter to kind of keep the boat and all this stuff that I don't even know if the helicopters were in the movie.

So we launch helicopters that kind of keep them pushed out for a little bit. I actually don't think the helicopters were. I've never actually seen the entire movie. So somebody down below just correct us on that on the movie. Thank you. Like, subscribe, hit that bell notification. All that stuff. More of Terry. All that stuff. So anyway, so then later that night, you know, the cavalry shows up. So the other squadron shows up. And it's funny because...

I know I've been there long enough. I know what's happening. Like they deployed everybody to come do our first at sea hostage rescue. That exactly why we are who we are. And the captain calls me. He's like, Hey, so how's it going? I give him the debrief. It's like, okay, cool. It's like, what do you need? I'm like out in my back of my mind. Like they're taking over, but I'm like, I'm going to pull one. I'm like, you know, he sent me like six snipers. I think we got it fairly under control and we'll just, we'll, we'll be done with this by the morning.

He's just laughing, but he's like, ah, okay, Terry, that's cool. But we're sending a true plus and they're taking, I knew they were, but I was like, ah, they want shot. I'm going to see if I can stay in charge of this thing. But they came over later that night. We debriefed them, gave them the video, told them exactly what, you know, all this stuff, like what is going on. And at this point, my guys have been up for a while. So we're like, okay, let's go. These guys here, they have it. Take a nap, whatever else, down our gear.

I don't know how long I'm asleep. Not long, but you get that kind of like, I wonder what the fuck's going on. Go by, and as I'm walking through the little back area of the Cura stage, I'm like, I don't see anybody. There's like nobody's in there. I'm like, what the fuck's going on? So I just happen to grab my nods and my helmet and my gun. I'm like, just natural, I guess, at this point. Go out to the fantail, and everybody's lined up in the

The boat's undertow and it's dark out and I see these guys laying down. And my buddy, he's the troop chief for the sniper guys, like, oh, perfect timing.

we need once you jump in here with this guy you got like two guys per at this point we'd already pulled one of those one of those guys off that stabbed himself so we got three three pirates captain phillips boats under tow it's a night and like everybody's online it's like okay what are we doing it's like well they're just like playing papa weasel we get one up and two up then one will go down another one comes just like this whack-a-mole it's like if we ever get them like all three

When we left Africa, that was the, or we jumped in, that was our kind of our ROE is like, if you can guarantee a hundred percent that you can solve the problem, you guys can solve the problem. So I lay down and I'm probably not very long there. And it's like, all of a sudden, like this guy's up, that guy's up, that guy's up. Everybody checks in like, we're good. All right. Three, two, one. Boom. Problem solved. Guys slide for life down in there, rescues Captain Phillips and the rest is a movie.

Holy Jesus. Fuck, dude. Like, it's funny because... It's funny because... Your entire fan base is just going to be... Bro, that is the quietest answer that's been for a long time. It's funny because I just happen to wake up and I'm like, oh, what the fuck's going on? I better grab my gun just in case. I'm on a fucking boat. Why do I need my gun? I just happened to luckily showed up at the right time and they had a spot for me. You just like stretch out. Yeah.

Oh, you got some pirates. But I mean, yeah, everybody there was awesome. And I'll probably get shit because like, oh, fuck, we were there. And it's funny because on our side of it internally to us, like the squadron shows up and everyone wants to admit that we were there before them. So like all the all the different stuff is no mention of us or anything else. But I love how you're so good at your job that you just kind of like casually glossed over the whole thing.

three shots on three different people on a moving boat to another moving boat and the problem was solved oh dude yesterday that's a lot of variables for one that's what we trained for I mean we we trained it and we learned this over years like we trained at such a high level that no matter what happens on Target or wherever it is whatever's going on it's less than what we trained to so it's like oh not really stressful like okay lasers at night you got nods just hold laser on dude's head it's like

Are you guys ready? Okay, let's go. How far of the shot was it? I mean... If you had to guesstimate. I've drank a lot since then, so somewhere in that 50 to 75 maybe. That's still a damn good shot like that. At night, I mean, your laces have to be on. It wasn't... I like how you down. Yesterday, you were now playing with Kevin. You could hit that. It's like...

standing pistol shot. Yeah. It was offhand. Just fucking... Laying a cannon, eyes closed. Yeah. It wasn't a difficult shot at all. And that's... We trained that shit all the time. So it was like, three, two, one, execute, and done. Dude, that is...

The fuck? We can bring up Jessica. It was a thousand yard shot. That's what we're going with. Look at 2,500 meters there, Canadians. The wind was 45 miles per hour in a tsunami. Uphill both ways. Terry had just left the boat because the wave hit so hard. I was the captain of the boat. I'm steering a shooting at Santa. The gun's on the fucking...

We're going to have it animated like a nightmare. The night before Christmas with Uncle Scrooge is grabbing a candle, but it's Terry with his nose. You make that shirt, send me one. Holy shit. But it's awesome because that's exactly what we trained to do at the command I was at and

had the opportunity to be there. And I just happened to be luckily enough that I was there with my guys. And it just happened to be from, well, from day one, even before we jumped in, it's like, it could have been anybody. I just got lucky. It was, it was my team. Yeah. A hundred percent. You guys made that effort. And then you met Tom Cruise when you saved him. Yeah. Why? Wilson. Wilson is awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

Then everybody clapped. It was crazy. And then they made the movie. You don't have to worry about money anymore. We bought a box of chocolates, so it was all good. It was cool because after all the debrief and everything else, we had to go back to Africa. We jumped back on the Bain Bridge and then he goes with us because he's got to go back, get debriefed, and then fly home. So I spent the next day or so with him and he's all wigged out, right? So we're playing Monopoly. I'm like,

he's like oh just like just having the conversations hanging because I know he's up like I've already been on enough deployments I know like stress level like where is that are you like trying to let him get the blue hotels I know what ptnd looks like that's such a weird I'm sorry I didn't want to put him in jail

I'm just, I'm so curious about how that train of thought, like you watch it. He went through a traumatic experience. Like his life has changed forever. You can tell the dude's fucked up and you're like monopoly. All it was is like, keep his mind off it and let him just, we're just talking. We're just like two dudes hanging out and talking through. And then my guys would cycle in and spend some time with them. And I

I got him on the phone with the psychic back home and working through some stuff just to, but was there. So we get him back. He goes home. And then like two months later, we got our sealerine and he shows up with his wife and I'm there with my wife and my kids and they all get go hang out with Captain Phillips. And we're like, Oh buddy, or where were they? And I haven't talked to him since then, but it was cool. Cause he got to come back and meet all the other like community around what we do. Yeah.

Oh, I thought you said something. Some of the most horrifying psychologist I've ever met, Terry. Holy shit. Dude, I am just like...

I didn't even know about the Lynch thing. Period. I'm old. I've been around a long time. You know what's crazy is I talked to some guys who were on the other side of that because it was an air defense unit. So I'm an air defender. That's what she was part of. She was part of... Like some 503rd Logics or what? Well, they were... A logistical group. Yeah, but they were with one of the air defense units. But one of the guys who teaches at the Thad Schoolhouse was part of her unit and was there. But apparently there was something...

Obviously that they got off on their own and everyone else in the convoy went one way and her and everybody else went the other way. And that's how they got ambushed. Wait, the convoy split? It split because all the dust kicked up somewhere. He was telling me about it. And it's funny because like looking back and understanding what happened there, just like the WMDs, right? Like, oh, there's WMDs everywhere. And you go like, where the fuck are they? Same thing with her. Like there's 400 fucking fighters and they go to the hospital and there's

there's remnants of them being there and there's planting cells and all this stuff, but they weren't there. So we planned for what we knew at the time, not the story that we got. And the same thing with like her getting an accident and people getting killed. And like, it's the story that the administration put out with the best knowledge they had at the time was not actually what happened. And she'll tell you that she went on to, uh, I think she was on Andy's, Andy Stump's podcast and kind of like her perspective, what she knew happened

Vice what was released. This is 03. Like, we don't have... Like, when we went in there, it was... We went in early. The recce team, they flew us in, and we were, like, living in the fucking... With the Marines. And this is the first time I ever met a Marine one-star. In the fucking shitty desert of Iraq. Sand-blowing. Living out of a tent. Underneath a vehicle. Like, in a junkyard. Launching fucking howitzers. We get out of the fucking Humvee, and there's a one-star fucking general there. Like...

who the fuck are you? He's like, this is my unit. We're killing dudes. The hardcore general out there. He's like, what's up, dog? I fucking love you guys. This is awesome. So we go in early and we base everything for her off of just human. Like, we don't have ISR. We don't have SIGINT or any of this stuff. It's like people coming in and saying, hey, I saw this or I saw this. And it's funny. I got to get a picture to her. I don't know her, but

Because we drove by that room in that podcast. She talked about being in a little building by herself for like 12 hours. We drove by that building because we heard that something was there. Drove by, there's nothing going on. So we're like, oh, that must not be the right one. So I got to get her that picture of that building. But she most likely was there when we drove by, by herself. Don't tell her that. Just hide that.

man i mean it's it's it is what i mean we didn't know anything no that that's what's wild about that it's framing those humans human intelligence like who's special who like special in afghanistan like i don't like you so i'm going to make up some story about how much of a terrorist you are and the agency is going to give me a bunch of money and they're going my friends are going to come kill you like mr mister this is very good neighborhood it's like ieds everywhere so it's like very unreliable and it's like single source like the worst kind of stuff so it's like yeah well

It doesn't look like anything. Everyone just keep on looking. And that's which led, you know, the doctor kind of led us to the hospital. And it all worked because we hooked them up with the camera. And yeah, now we know what's going on. No shit. So you made a human ISR.

You said you hooked him up with a camera, so like you said... Yeah, yeah, yeah. You had a human eyes on her. And he went, like, where are you going? This is like, wait, what? You're a drone. I just... With this on head. Just go here now. Jump off the building, motherfucker. It's not a gay guy. It's Hamas. Hamas.

Getting airmailed off the building. I'm sorry that I had to explain that to everyone here. I got a really puzzled look. Just go ahead and cut out how long and awkward that pause was. No, you can leave it in. Leave that in for sure. You actually, for the podcast...

You trained up on a new... I did. I did. He was so excited. He was like, what the fuck, Terry's on? I was so excited. What are you talking about? I'm super pumped to hear what you have to say after Terry's story. Yeah, of course. It's going to match it. How many people did you save? And everyone's just going to fast forward past this part until Terry starts talking again. I love bombs. They're awesome. So everyone here, I assume everyone here is familiar with the Bat Bomb.

Right? From World War II that we... You did a video about... Say you're not. What did you say? Bat bomb? The bat bomb. Oh, my God. You can teach him because mine's not the bat bomb. Here we go. America weaponizes everything. I really love this. Dentist in World War II. Ted, now start again.

Today we're talking about the bat bomb for the fifth time. I didn't know I was one of the foremost leading experts on this on accident. So in World War II, they had this really unique problem. They had all these different programs trying to develop essentially a weapon of mass destruction at the time. You had the Manhattan Project over here, and then you had this other extracurricular project where we were going to strap napalm bombs to...

bats oh fuck i'm in because the japanese lived in houses made out of paper and wood so there was genius there was a dentist from kentucky

who was also a part-time inventor. He had previously invented a fried chicken vending machine. Clearly a genius. Why am I first hearing about a fried chicken vending machine? Bro, I got you. We were living in the future back then, man. We gotta go back. It's 25 cents a year. It is falling back. We have so digressed as a community. Oh, dude, it's horrible. So he gets this idea of like, this is gonna be brilliant. We're gonna strap incendiary grenades to bats and then we're gonna drop them off over Japan

right before dawn and the bats are going to go and they're going to roost in attics in any nook and crevice that they can possibly find and then two hours later the incendiary grenades are going to light up and it's going to light the whole city on fire and burn that bitch to the ground i'm in yeah i like it so he writes this down in a letter and sends it to the government never would have made it anywhere but this dude just happened to know fdr's wife

Sends it directly to the first lady. She gives it to her husband and her husband forwards the letter to military intelligence. I don't, I can't remember the exact quote, but it's something along the lines of him telling his generals, this is not a madman. I think he's got a perfectly good idea. We should look into it.

So they start developing bat bombs. They end up harvesting thousands of Mexican free-tailed bats from a cave right outside of San Antonio. There's just thousands of these motherfuckers because they were the best bats that we could find, apparently. They make up a bomb that essentially looks like a large colander that when you drop it, it just kind of like opens up and all the bats fly all over the fucking place. And they go to test it.

I'm so intrigued right now. This is awesome. This is how we felt when you were talking. So they go to test it on this airfield out in the middle of the Nevada desert. And the Army is running the program at this point in time. And they drop all these bats off. And they're like, bad news. We forgot to take the fuses out of the incendiary bombs.

So they almost burned the entire airfield to the ground. They blew up the general's fucking car. So the army is like, I'm out. I want nothing to do with this. It works. It's like proof of concept, right? Right. There was one Marine general that heard about it and just fucking showed up uninvited. And he's like, this is dope. So he assumes control of the program. I love Marines. Dude. Yeah. I saw the crayons are fucking awesome. I did a whole video on it, but like,

Literally, if the Manhattan Project wasn't done in time and we resorted to bat bombs, it would have been like 12 times deadlier than the atomic bomb was just because it would have... Like, we killed more people in incendiary bombings in Japan than the atomic bombs did. Just think of the psychological factor on that. Like...

Bats flying in with bombs? Like the drone stuff now. Here's the thing. They wouldn't even know it was bats because it was literally just like they'd... Their house would just combust. And it would literally just be the whole city or town would burst into flames at dawn. That is...

Awesome. Horrifying. Horrifying shit. There's a fire everywhere. Everyone's just in terror after that moment. There was a program that actually predated that, and it showed some promise, and this is the one that I found out about. Oh no. And it was, originally it was called Operation Pigeon, and then it was changed to Operation OrgCon, which stands for Organic Control.

What they did... America weaponized everything. We created GPS before GPS. So what they would do is they built a bomb and the explosive was in the middle of the bomb, but in the nose they would have one to three pigeons that had... One to three is what I read.

And they would teach these pigeons. They would show them a picture of a target. And every time they would see the picture, they would get a grain or something like that. If they pecked at it, it would release a pellet. Eventually, they trained these things. One of them pecked like 10,000 times in 45 minutes. And what they would do is steer the bomb onto target as it was falling out of the air. So they were using pigeons to create glide bombs. Would get the

This is a real thing America did. The three pigeons were averaged out amongst the three, so they would average out where the pecking was to calculate the best out of the three. It was literally pigeon democracy on who we were going to fuck with a bomb. I'm not going back to boot camp, but I wanted this program.

resurrected this sounds awesome off the podcast and i can get it to chase whoever's editing this like you can see the video footage like they recorded this of the pigeons pecking at targets it was like actually highly effective yeah it showed real promise like there was a guy who was a behavioral scientist who like came up with the concept it was like no no we can use pigeons and it

It was pretty effective. And I don't, I didn't get to why they canceled the program. Maybe you did. Uh, but I said that it eventually moved on to the bat bomb. And then of course the Manhattan project, I did a video. I forget why they canceled that product. They brought it back after world war two for something else. And then they just microchips caught up and we went to guidance that way. But yeah,

it's really hard to make money off pigeons yeah and mike tyson was going to be pissed i mean yeah that's right he's going to hit us so we'd cancel it yeah so that was the one that i learned about i was like we made a pigeon bomb like we it was just i googled i got bored and i was like weird missiles and like all the rest of them i've already talked about so that was the only one i was like huh so then i started googling pigeon bomb and i was like well let's see what this thing is all about

Yeah, I learned about the pigeon. Not something you want to do on your work computer. No, no. Well, I mean, for me, though, being in the missile space, they'd probably be like, no, he's doing research. And then it's fine. He's good. Yeah. Dude, holy shit. These are always my favorite. It is like, hey, we're learning all new tech across the board. This is from you to you to you. I'm just like, holy shit. If it exists, America either has or will weaponize it at one point in time. Like, it's...

We've tried everything we've done. I think the last podcast I was on, I was explaining all the things that we've made nuclear. Literally everything you can think of. America's made it nuclear from artillery to rocket launchers. Britain did the, uh, Britain made the nuclear chicken powered landmine. That one I didn't know about. Huh?

Yeah, Great Britain made chicken-powered nuclear landmines. You have to open up way more dishes. Cold War! There's a line in the sand. Terry, do you know about this? No, I'm not familiar with the foul landmines. Sorry.

or missiles or rockets or bombs or anything that stuff watch out it makes a really big boom yeah anything anything bird related i'm not familiar with well just so happens i'm an expert on aviation ordinance apparently avian um yeah great britain was like i mean we we got to stop the soviets if they come rolling in with fucking tanks um we we made a nuclear landmine the problem is is that the tech is kind of faulty

We don't just want to have it short out being cold and wet underground if we bury it and randomly having a nuclear explosion go off. So what the fuck are we going to do? So they basically came up with a plan. We're just going to dig the holes. We're going to have the landmines there ready. We're going to keep them nice and dry, safe, out of the ground. And then if the Soviets come rolling up, we're going to throw them in the ground, and then they're just going to be on a delay. But it wasn't close enough. There was a...

An air possibility that was, it was too great. So like, we got to figure out a way to keep this warm. And when we can't have like a generator running to have power down there, batteries weren't good enough at the time. So they're like, I mean, what if we just put chickens inside that motherfucker and kept them warm with body heat? And then when the chickens died, the bomb goes off.

So they just figured out how long a chicken could survive inside before it suffocated to death and the body went cold. And that was the timer. That was the trigger for it. For a nuclear landmine. I'm not sure I'm on board with that one. Yeah. That seems a little. They weren't either. They decided not to do it. It's a museum now. Not with a nuclear landmine. Yeah, that's a little. It's a giant landmine. It's a fucking monster. It's an incendiary bat. That's fucking awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

You draw the line at nuclear chickens. Nuclear cocks are not what I want to get to. Are you familiar with the atomic artillery? Atomic Annie? I think so. Okay. Spin me up. Spin me up. No, no. That's the David Crockett's, the handheld. The David Crockett's. Yeah. Do you know the David Crockett? Holy. Oh, man, dude. Do you like history? Do you like history? Oh, dude. I'm fascinated by stuff like this when guys are deep dive into subjects. Have you listened to Fat Electrician?

I did just come out here. Oh, dude. You're going to go through his videos. Like Nick is, it's one of the few content creators where it's like, you're just, you're hooked, hooked. And it's like, okay, well, 40 to an hour of my life is now locked in. I'm just going to come down to Iowa and we're just going to like sit and drink beers and talk.

bring it fucking bombs or whatever i got uh i got one of the best trick shot guys in the country 30 minutes from my house we got a little gun show for pepper box you can come out you can show us how to shoot we'll do all kinds of trick shit you know kevin you can come bring all your cool guns it'll be a great time yeah but uh no whenever you want but uh the davy crockett is it's a recoilless rifle that shot a 55 pound atomic warhead and it was mounted to a jeep

So the strategy was literally roll up in a Jeep, plant that bitch, fire it and drive as fast as you can. But the operators realized that they weren't in the safe radius. So they were just like, we're just going to fire it while moving and keep going. Yeah. So that's one, but then you have atomic art artillery, nuclear artillery, atomic Annie, and there's videos of it. I mean, it's,

from 29 miles away and it hits and you're like oh that wasn't that big and then the fucking screen just goes white for four seconds it's the biggest explosion you've seen she's barked at fort still i actually took a picture in front of it yeah for him yep so that was the right one now yes my favorite part of that story is they made three of them they fucking lost one for like 30 years huh and forgot or like didn't know where the fuck it was somebody left it off the

Checklist. They thought, well, they thought, they thought. We'll find it later. I was like. I'm going to just scribble it in. That's a little. Yeah. Lazy. So me and Jonah were like, where's that? I don't know. I'm not doing hands across Fort Lewis today. We're just going to say it's good. Well, they, they did. They thought the one that was on display was the actual atomic Annie, which was the only one that was ever actually fired. At some point, somebody got sent out to check the serial numbers and they didn't match the

In, like, the 80s. Like, 30 years after the... Could you imagine being the E4 just on profile for being a shit... Go check the serial numbers on all the shit in the museum and then they didn't match. How many times do you think he read that number? Like... Bro, he had to sit there all fucking... Like, there's... Come over here. There's no way that's not the number, right? I would have literally just like, yep. This thing weighs 100 tons. How the fuck?

Did it get swapped out? I would have scratched out whatever members scratched out and wrote those bitches in. This is what it is now. Turnover time. You're in charge. Nothing happening on my watch. There's the atomic Annie. And then for air defense, we've made air defense missiles because during the Cold War, our theory was that if the Russians had a whole bunch of planes or bombs coming at us, you could just fire one missile.

So we built the Nike Hercules and then the Nike Zeus and then the Nike Spartan. Those are all nuclear. And then we built the Sprint. Yep, surface to air. And then we also built a Sprint missile. Yeah, they're all Nike. The Sprint missile, which was America was like, how fast do we want a missile to go? As fast as you can fucking make it. And it did Mach 10 in under 10 seconds in 1964.

Like they had to put explosives on the door on top because they couldn't build a mechanism to open the blast door fast enough to let the missile out. So they just like had C4 and they're just like, we're going to blow the doors open. This missile's gone.

Like it would start glowing as it's going through the air because like it was combusting as it's ripping through the air. That's awesome. It's it. America builds such cool shit. It's like our solution every time is like explode it to open it. Can we bring the Department of Defense back to like the 60s? I'm telling you. Make us do some shit again. You ever heard about like, do you know about Operation Chromedome? Oh, I love Operation Chromedome. Great, great one.

There is some interesting, after Chromedome, there is some interesting air defense news that I can actually go over with you guys. Some newer stuff. So we'll jump out of the history and I'll go to some newer stuff. But you do Chromedome first. Chromedome was literally just, they were putting up multiple B-52s for like, was it 15 years? Yeah.

Yes. I think it was 15 years. It was constant flight. Yeah, constant flight because the theory was like if they launched an intercontinental ballistic missile and theoretically they have the capability to take out every American airfield, so we're not going to be able to retaliate. So the only logical thing to do is to have multiple B-52s with nuclear ordnance doing hot laps around the entire continental United States and Canada 24-7 for 15 fucking

years straight holy shit and if they ended up launching nukes they're like cool beeline straight to russia return the favor yeah that was the plan the entire time and that's where it sounds american there was multiple times where like a b-52 went down causing a nuclear incident uh like we dropped him in greenland we dropped him all over the way there was one where uh god it was the one that i did with brandon over i think it was greenland or denmark

we've had a couple in the united states north carolina but like this the one that like really up and like people got radiated it was really bad was the one of the b-52 pilots like it's cold in here i'm just going to open the exhaust vent directly from the engine bay and caught the upholstery of the cockpit on fire and burned the plane down from the inside and they had to bail out and ditch nukes in the ocean

and they like weren't supposed to be in that area at the time and denmark is like what the green whatever the was i don't know what's up you're not supposed to be here and we're like i mean yeah we're america but whatever what are you doing anyway besides the fact

There's nukes over there. Yeah. In the water. Mark, it's on the map. I think the U.S. has lost like 20, 29 nukes. We are. Yeah. And we got fucked up. Can't go there. That's a hard snap. He just said, yeah, the U.S. has misplaced 29 nuclear weapons. I believe it's 29. That's it? Yeah. That's pretty good record overall. Yeah.

Think about all the other shit we lose. I mean, there was one that blew up in Arkansas, like not a nuke. Well, this is actually proof to show you how stable nuclear weapons are. The warhead ended up like 700 yards outside the gate of the base when the missile itself, which was liquid state fuel leaked and then just went off and it literally just exploded in the ground, blew off the blast door. And then the warhead itself ended up outside the gate of the base. Arkansas, 1974. Yeah. We're going to talk about that.

Explains a lot about Arkansas though. Yeah. We're going to end up talking about the manhole cover. Oh God, we are the fastest object known to man. Dude, I love, before we get into that, my favorite part was homeboy tried to do a mathematical breakdown and then they comments were like,

No, not today. You fucked up X, Y, and Z. And he's like, fuck. I didn't even account for rotational. Like, it's like, this is not a true story because if you do it and then he just accounted for it as like flying, like actually a dome not spinning. He did the calculation if it was entering the Earth's atmosphere and not leaving it, which drastically changes it because atmosphere gets weaker as you leave, not stronger. So it like completely inverted the equation. So it was...

Very similar to the movie where how many, how many dick skin is your. Yeah. Do that again. Yeah.

Let me stand up, although he might kill me. Silicon Valley. My boy knows the guys there. That's one of the best. The dick to stroke ratio? Oh, no. But have you heard of the fastest manhole cover ever to exist? No. Tell me all about it. I'm going to let Nick. He tells the story way better than I do. I love this because now nobody cares about me. Oh, everyone still cares about you. You're still the captain. Absolutely. So, you know, Cold War era. We're testing out nukes. I'm going to reset. Go again.

So basically there's these scientists are doing experiments and they're doing, they're basically dropping nukes in the desert in Nevada and they're exploding them in the atmosphere. And the people near that area understandably were like, Hey,

what if we didn't detonate nukes 60 miles from my fucking house? You know, I'm kind of concerned for the health reasons and the government's like, don't worry. We've done the research. You're fine. Hint. They weren't, uh, they're called downwinders. They got paid a lot of money by the government. A lot of them fucking died. Um,

But regardless, the government's like, no, you're fine. And they're like, I still don't trust you. And the government's like, fine, we'll quit detonating nukes in the atmosphere. And they're like, and in the desert. And they're like, fine, and in the desert. And in the ocean. Fine, we'll quit detonating nukes in the ocean too. So the government's like, okay, here's the plan. We're not going to lie. We're going to dig a big hole and detonate them underground. What could possibly go wrong?

you know what's better than having a firecracker go off in your hand having it go off in your closed fist and what you know nothing could possibly happen so they go they dig a fi i believe this 500 feet deep hole and they took a nuclear warhead and they were they wanted to test the safety mechanisms to make sure that they were going to function properly allegedly

I think there's a way to test safety without actually launching a nuke. Not with the budget we got, homie. Privates walk towards the blast. Good. So they bury this nuke and then they stick a 2,000 pound slab of concrete on top of it with a hole and they detonate it and

fucking straight blue flames launch 800 feet into the fucking sky and they're like neat so tomorrow they're like we should try it again this time we'll put a manhole let's do it again this time we're drinking clearly we left our hand open a little bit too much we got to make sure it's closed really tight next time so they go back the next day same size nuke and uh

They put a 2,000-pound slab of concrete on top of it again. Then they get a 2,000-pound manhole cover that they bolt to the fucking bedrock to try to contain this blast to get the readings from it. And then, you know, for some reason, for science, they also got a high-speed camera, the best one they could get at the time. Thank God. Pointed it at it. And the nuke went off again. The safety mechanism did not work.

And what had happened was with a nuclear explosion, it gets so hot so fast that it vaporized the concrete instantly and created super hot gas, which rapidly expands, essentially turned the planet into a fucking potato gun and proceeded to yeet that manhole cover about 155,000 miles an hour.

That's the minimum speed because they only captured the manhole cover in one frame of the high-speed camera. So they were able to do the math on like to not be in two frames. It had to have been traveling. I believe it was 155,000 miles an hour. Let's recreate it. Mocked. 1,000.

There's somewhere out there. We've started an intergalactic war because that manhole cover is still going somewhere out there in the cosmos. There's definitely left atmosphere. Oh, absolutely. That was gone. There's a debate in science as to whether or not America put the first man-made object into outer space being this manhole cover before the USSR did Sputnik. And they argue over whether or not it burnt up in the atmosphere or not. No, fuck no. You did the math. It was...

second to break out of the atmosphere and moving at that speed. And it's like, I don't know if it had enough time to burn up. And most of it turned into like just a molten slug. That's gotta be going right towards Mars. Yeah. That's easily mock fire.

40 or 80 because I mean the Carmen line which is the the notionally agreed upon like edge of space is 100 kilometers up but 150,000 miles an hour you're looking at uh what was it 986 what is Mach 1 Mach is uh uh 740 miles an hour give or take I think uh again

Yes, exactly. So you have something in the one, once it hits the atmosphere, now you have less resistance. That's why the individual that jumped in the highest skydives ever from the free fall was from space. That dude hit up to, it was like 900 miles an hour or something, which terminal velocity for a human. Once you've stabilized or any twenties or something. Yeah. Like homeboys falling like 800 miles an hour. And he's just like, Oh,

Like he goes into a spin and he catches himself and then his speed finally because he was in no atmosphere. The same principle with your fake Russian hypersonics. I just wanted to point that out to you because they don't have a power descent. Let's talk about hypersonics. So what point do we launch this hunk of molten steel into space so the aliens aren't like

Slow down, guys. We're going to come visit real quick. You guys are starting to get out of hand a little bit. The amount of UFO sightings that are around nuclear test sites are staggering. A lot. Like, pay to hunt a pirate. Hey, aliens, pay to come down and watch how stupid the US people are. They're using those in their atmosphere. What the fuck? Yeah, like, back off. They'll launch shit at you. You know it. You know aliens gave us that technology, right? You know what I mean? Like...

You know what I mean? It's like a... So you used your drunk uncle, like, here, here's some fireworks. Yeah, what's the Greek Sisyphus with fire? Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? It's aliens. Give... Do it. Give those monkeys nukes. Just see what fucking happens. Just see what happens. See what they do. Holy shit! Get out of the way. Yeah. 2,000 pound manhole cover. Traveling... Fuck it. That's probably as close to light speed we've ever been.

I think the only thing faster is one of the shuttles we sent out finally reached its max cruising speed, and it is faster now, but that was fairly recent. Oh, Jesus. It might be like Voyager or something. Yeah, I think that's it. Yeah.

Anyways, nuclear-powered anti-air-to-air missiles, I think you were trying to talk about. So there's the nuclear-powered one. The SLAM? Yeah, the SLAM. I thought we made that. I don't think we ever fully built a production model where they have small nuclear blasts as the thrust. Yep, I've heard of those. That was actually the original, like, hey, how do we get a hat?

Yeah. Faster. This is the way we'll explode. Oh, that's not the one I was thinking of. Yeah. Are you thinking of that one? The slam missiles, the one that's a nuclear propelled and it basically goes up into the atmosphere and just does hot laps around the planet in perpetuity for like 50 fucking years. And then if we ever needed to call it down, it would go down and just smoke whatever we needed. Same principles, the Chinese DFCF, their hypersonic glide vehicle. That's they fire it up. It goes however long it needs to be. It stays in orbit perpetually as long as it needs to.

And then because it's a hypersonic glide vehicle, it dives and then kind of flattens out at a lower trajectory, similar to a cruise missile profile. And because it's moving so fast, like cruise missiles by and large are usually pretty slow, like 500 miles an hour, like about the speed of a regular fighter aircraft.

But the DFZF hypersonic glide vehicle claims never been detected by any American or NATO sensor because they don't really test them very often claims to be able to travel like map of the earth or map of the earth, whatever you call it over Mach 10.

So imagine a cruise missile profile which is hiding on the far side of the planet because if you think it's flat your parents are related and right now So that's that's why cruise missiles are so dangerous as they hide on the far side of the curvature of the earth or they use Mountains which we call mass terrain or buildings or whatever and they they sneak up on you that way That's why cruise missiles are really really dangerous to air defense systems. Have you ever done anything on rapid dragon? I

No, no, but I know we've... Actually, there's a newer design. You may want to do something. Have you seen the revolver we made for hypersonics? It's in the back of a C-17. Oh, I have seen that. Yeah, they built a revolver in the back of a C-17 that, like, a parachute drops, a hypersonic missile drops out, takes off, and then it just rotates another one into place, and that's...

out of the back of a C-17. - Fuck yeah. - 'Cause America. - America right there. - Dude, we are so dangerous. - It's like, who wants to fuck with us? - I don't know why. - You hear that, I'm like, huh?

right now uh in like the air defense space guam is the most heavily air defended location on earth like anywhere in the world guam is it and i think it's because the us is worried that like china wants guam so like there's ages ashore there there's thad there uh there's um oh god there's in risk of tipping over i have no idea

But we did. You guys got it. I like it. I like it. Yeah. We do. If you need to explain that joke. And it's actual. It was a congressman. Sitting congressman. Sitting congressman. I can't remember who it was, but very well educated. And he, what was the question he asked about the Guam, the island? I think it was because of U.S. forces on Guam. If we staged too many there, it would tip the island over.

Islands are a floating landmass. It's just like... God damn it. It's not. That's your congressman. There's like a military four-star general like... Is that real? Where's Aspen Kutcher at? Am I getting fucking punked right now? That's who you voted for. Yes.

Pull that up because it is literal like a four-star journal. It's like a Senate hearing or something. My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize. You're fucking with me, right? This is a retarded question. No, Congressman, there is no possibility. It is. It is.

sorry like an ice cube the ice cube flipped over politicians never cease to impress me with their little but they also uh this is something i've found kind of interesting so they have the aegis ashore there and aegis um is hands down it's skynet it is the best air defense system in the world i say that no one i'm a patriot guy i mean aegis it's it's a bad bitch like there's a reason the hoothies aren't

Defeating it right now. It's in the Red Sea and it's just, stop it, stop it. Fucking keep your missiles down. Like they're just playing with you at this point. But they took a Mark 41 VLS, the vertical launch system that sits on the Aegis,

uh or one of my favorite vertical launches it's all the big cells that have the missiles in them okay and not quite as sophisticated as the back of the toy of the land i'm like it go bang i hit ford's ford assist jesus so they they took one go ahead i was gonna say i'd pay money to give them a vampire system vampire that i'd be all about when i get like

level four cancer and it's like it's gone fucking load me up i'm working everything i feel like we could probably cure cancer if we just went to the dod and asked him to okay here's the deal i need you to make really tiny cruise missiles that'll attack cells that we can inject into people

My ass is on fire, what the fuck? No, that's when the D.O.D. comes back. Are the cells brown? How much oil do the cells have? It's over.

Because Halliburton's popping it up. Oh, man. I'm sorry. Your favorite vertical launch system. So the Mark 41 VLS, which they have standard missile twos, threes, and sixes in, there's no logic to the naming convention because threes reach further than sixes, which reach further than twos. It's fucking weird. But they put standard missile threes in there, and they were able to recently –

quite literally and effectively a simulated mid-range ballistic missile. And they did this on purpose because Russia fired that mid-range ballistic missile that hit Kiev, and Russia's like, we're the best ever! So the U.S. was like, cool, we're going to show you that it's not. And they fired one of those at Guam, and Aegis smoked it 200 miles away from Guam. Because Aegis is a bad bitch. By the way, Google says Aegis' maximum range is like 173 miles, so...

I guess that's gonna get updated on Google here soon. Yeah, lucky. Yeah. Uh, and then, uh, what they did also is they, they took it, it's sitting, it's cool as shit if you see the picture. They took the VLS and normally they just have it sitting upright, which is how it is on the ships, and they tilted it, which doesn't seem like a big deal until you realize that tilt can probably give it an extra 50 or 60 miles of range because instead of going up and over, now it's just going over in that direction, which saves a lot of fuel.

So we just be doing like, that's what uncle Sam be doing all the time. That's a dude. It's more terrifying. How do you feel about like how you see warfare now where it is drones? And that is where you, that is where PTSD is coming from is just that sound. Like I watched that on, on all the different things, like conflict observer and all this. I'm like, that'll be scared. Like just following around, like just stalking you. Like I see you.

There's nothing I can fucking do about you. There's like some 14 year old Russian that grew up playing video games. It's like, ah, fuck you America. I'm just going to murder you with no, there's no value of life. He's just like, Oh wow, this is how video games work. I'm going to do it. And it's scary as shit. It is a complete disconnect. Cause you're not pulling your trigger. You're not doing anything. You would have a screen separation. Exactly what he's been doing since he was five playing video games. Yeah. And there's no emotion. There's like a screen to screen, whether it's a video game player or a person.

to him it doesn't matter and then just thermal ones are scary the scary part with that is in theory like if you were actually gonna like do drone warfare like that on an industrial scale like if America launched that program you could work China or anybody yeah you could literally just like to eliminate that entirely it's um you remember when they did a death by firing squad in Ohio

Like a couple of years back, it was like the last death by firing squad. The dude requested it, but the way they did it was they had five shooters with high powered rifles. They were all going to shoot center mass. One of them had a blank and they didn't know who it was. That way all five shooters could tell themselves they shot the blank.

It was like when you would originally, when two people would pull the electric chair, it was, hey, one doesn't do it. That way no one suffers the consequence. It's like, ah, that weighs on me. It is, oh, one of us killed. I don't know who did. You could literally have...

one drone pilot out of the 50 playing Arma 3, and everybody gets to tell themselves, I'm playing the video game. These aren't real people. You ever read Ender's Game? Exactly. Same concept. Same fucking idea. If you don't know Ender's Game, it is the entire... Spoiler alert, it's like 30 years. Read the goddamn book at this point. It is...

Children soldiers are like they're going into this military school at the age of five. They're geniuses. And by the age of 12, they're disconnected from everything. They're working with their unit and they're playing war games. But they're also playing this simulation with ships that they get to maneuver around and fight the enemy in this video game.

And they do this for years until the final like Ender's looking around he has like all his team the dragon team around him. Basically he feels like he's on the final level. Yeah he's literally going into this. This is the final level. All the adults and generals are watching. I gotta pass this fucking test. And it is okay we're gonna do this. Oh fuck this is the only kid that can do this. Again he's 12 years old. And finally he's like oh I'll sacrifice all these by pinning

pinning one ship in the middle that has this device that will kill everything all the other ships will protect it and it will hit the planet and then this d device will destroy everything around it consumes all life and then they hit it and everything dies and then adults are freaking out and the kids are like ah we won takes a moment like the kids are like what the fuck's going on the dots are crying they're weeping they're giving the kids hugs

And then he finds out it's like, Hey, those were actually soldiers and that you were playing. Those were sold. Yeah. Yeah. So that is the moment it was like, you killed all the aliens, but you sacrificed all those people without knowing it. Cause you would thought it was a video game at that moment. And that is like, and it hits ender. And then they have like multiple stories that roll out from that. It is great book. One of the best books I've ever read.

Yeah, that kid's like the trauma he goes through and he doesn't know it. Like he's just a tool for the government and they don't tell him any of the trauma he does. And then finally at the end of the book, he's like,

this sucks. I just, he exterminated an entire other race. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Xenocide. And you're like, uh, fuck. Such a good book series. Ender's game is good. Ender's shadow. I personally think is better. That's the second one. It's about being a speaker for the dead was, that was okay. I wasn't a huge fan, but yeah, the series is pretty good. Hmm.

Good book. If you haven't read it, it's a good book. And it's like a high school book. It hits fucking hard. But it's brutal. Don't watch the movie. The movie's ass. About Guam. Can we tip it over? Yes. Guam is the funniest way America's ever taken over a country ever. So I did a video on it.

I know you haven't seen it. I'll recap it if you've already seen the video. Sorry. You know how this is going to be worse because I'm drunk this time and I haven't read it in six months. So basically, Japan took over Guam from America during World War II.

when america goes or sorry no way before that sorry spanish-american war spain is in control of guam america enters the spanish-american war they send out um a bunch of ships to go capture guam from the spanish because we're at war with them and we want to capture all the territory like the philippines and they sent out this massive fleet they're supposed to they're supposed to go back to the philippines yeah put a kite on that we're going to sail across the seventh seas to go people up right so the

This group gets a special mission. They're only supposed to open this letter after they get out to sea. They're like, hey, you're making a detour. You got to go take out, capture Guam and then head to the Philippines and capture it.

So they go out, they get to Guam. There's this massive fort. There's supposed to be this entire Spanish armada there. These guys got to go fight. Everybody's pumped and they get there. It's foggy. They can't see shit. And they're like, they see a ship off in the distance in this fog and they're getting closer. They're getting closer. It's a Japanese ship and we're totally friendly with them at the time for like, what the fuck? So they get closer and there's this massive fort that's supposed to have all these cannons. So they just start opening fire on this.

Fort. The fort's not returning fire. The fuck? So they just like kind of sail right into the harbor and the captain's like, drop anchor, I guess? So they drop anchor and they're just chilling. They're like getting boarding parties ready for their whaling boats to sail out to the... And they see...

what they assume are troops forming up on the beach. Like, okay, we're going to fight them on land. Get ready, boys. And then these guys hop in canoes and start paddling their ass out to the boat. And they're like, what the fuck is going on? And they get out and it's a whaling boat that comes out to the ship that has all of their government on it except for the governor. And they're like, hey, what are you guys doing? And they're like, uh, we're...

we're at war capturing your island and they're like what apparently spain just didn't tell them that we were at war and they had no clue

And they're like, they originally came out there to apologize because they thought when they opened up fire on that fort, they thought that they were doing like the fire, the cannons as a salute for entering their port. Oops. Sorry for that. They're like, sorry, we couldn't return your salute. We don't have any cannons or gunpowder functioning right now. And they're like, oh, but you're, you're like the whole government. And they're like, yeah, pretty much except for the governor. Cool.

You're our prisoners now. They held the prisoners. They sent like one guy back with a letter to the governor like, hey, we're running this bitch now. This bitch is mine. Yeah. And the governor's like forced to surrender. So then the captain's sitting there like, what the fuck do I do? I captured this in minutes. A country. Yeah. A country. And there's like a couple of Spanish soldiers. There's like 20 Spanish soldiers. They all surrender. They take them. There's like a local militia and the captain's like,

F*** it. The National Guard can go home. I don't give a s***. Just f*** off. And then one of the Spanish soldiers is like, actually, I'm from Guam and I'm part of the militia. And he's like, f*** it. You can go home too. That guy f***ing lied. He just f***ing kicked out of it and got away. So he bounces. He goes home. No hablo español. No hablo español.

There's this one another boat comes up and it's like the local merchant tycoon that runs like all the business on the island. And he speaks perfect English. They're like, you're white. What the fuck's the deal? Explain yourself. He's like, oh, I'm an elevator operator from Chicago. And they're like, what? He's like, yeah, I married some Guam chick and we moved out here. And now I just kind of like run the business side of the island. And the captain's like, well, what the fuck do we do? And he's like, you know what?

and like shit's getting rowdy like the sailors were expecting a fight they didn't get a fight now they're like they're buying monkeys from the locals they got pet monkeys on the boats and shit buying bananas and all kinds of crazy shit going on the captain's like I gotta get to the Philippines to go capture that and he's like fuck it American dude congratulations you're the president now I gotta go and he just dips and leaves and just like the one English dude is apparently running the country now

And we just don't show back up for like six months. We show up. They're like... We just showed up to get coal because they were coal burning ships at this point in time. And...

The captain that's just there to get coal and refuel shows up and there's like a civil war about to break out between the faction that's now being run by this one ex-American dude who thinks he's in charge and the rest of the people from Guam. And they're like about to have this huge fight. So he comes in like, no, no.

The Americans in charge. Take all their guns. All right, we're going to leave again. And just dipped again for another six months. It was like a year and a half before they sent out and had like a military commander in charge of this island. So yeah, that's how we got Guam. That explains a lot about Guam. But it's still not going to tip over, right? We're safe now.

Yeah, we took all the monkeys for the counterweight. We're fine. The monkeys are going to do the counterweight. All the soldiers on the other side. We have monkey ballast. Holy shit. On that note, we're going to close this episode out. That has been two hours? Damn. Dude, yeah, that was more than two hours. Holy shit. Dude, Nick, close this out. You beautiful zone bitch. I'm Cody. Today. You're Cody? You want to say you're a donut operator? I'm super ugly Cody. Yeah.

Thank you so much for watching the unsubscribe podcast. I have been joined here today by my co-host, Mr. Eli Double Tap, our new friend, Terry, who is in fact the captain, my dear friend, Ethan, Mr. Avidual Linecrosser, and I am Nick, the fat electrician. Thank you for watching unsubscribe. Quack bang out. Terry, where do we find you, you beautiful son of a bitch? The only thing, and I shouldn't even do it anymore, Instagram, and they've got me so locked. So here's a challenge for your followers.

Go break fucking Instagram and follow me because I am in the shithole. Locked down. Nobody can find me and all this stuff. So Terry.Huyen, follow me. Break Instagram. Fuck Meta. We'll put it up on Instagram. Yeah, I was like, I'm going to need that. Yeah. I'm like Q. I'm like Phil Ethos and just having a fucking perfect. Thank you so much. Dude, truly, thank you. I was fucking like, very rarely are we just so...

again. That was dialed in. I was like, usually this place is real rambunctious and all three of us just, he is the captain. Shut the fuck up. That's so good. Thank you so much. Hopefully it was good. Try not to say anything too crazy that's going to get me shit talking, but whatever. I was just killed. Thank you, brother. Love you guys. Bye. We'll see.

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