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Oh my god. When's the last time we recorded? Jack, it's been so long. It's been a while. It's good to have you back. Thank you, thank you. I'm happy to be here. Are we rolling right now? Yeah, dog. We're always rolling. That's always what we do. Oh, now the pressure's on. Unsubscribe never stops. It never... We can do it. It's been a while since we cracked one, I think, right? We do it every time, right? Two, one. No, the last podcast. We haven't recorded in...

Oh, God. Oh, that's yeah. No. Yeah. It's been a minute. We did crack for Dean Cain. We did. It's just the last time we recorded crack for Dean Cain. Yeah. I love him in Rat Race. I loved him in that movie. He was in some of his best work. Was he? Yeah. He played the cheating boyfriend. No shit. He flies the helicopter down and she's screaming at him from the helicopter. That's the one with Mr. Bean in it, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Rat Race was one of those movies that came out and then they played it like on TBS, you know, three times a day for about five years straight. TNT. Yeah.

Hi, everyone. Welcome to the unsubscribed podcast. I am joined today by Mr. Eli Double Tap, the always beautiful Jack Mandeville, Brandon Herrera, and myself, Donut Operator. We're going to talk about assassinations. Why? Why? Did something happen? Did something happen, Jack? We just play like we recorded this before. We didn't know. What? Totally wasn't for clickbait and actually capitalize on the situation for no reason in particular. It's just the thumbnail is just Eli like this.

someone tried to shoot him? Well, I just, I get, you guys always get tagged on Twitter, but Twitter is like, oh, and so talk about this. I was like, why? We're retards. Why the fuck do you want to armpit? I just, I can't wait. I just want to fuck with people at a certain point when they just come in like, dude, did you see somebody try to shoot Trump? And I just want to reply, no, I don't watch Game of Thrones. That's what I want to, that's what I want to do. Like two weeks from now, I just want to tweet somebody try to shoot Trump.

Bro, have you seen the news? Yeah.

I did the worst thing possible when that happened to I went straight to Twitter or X. I went straight to X to get everyone's take 30 seconds after it happened and no, you know, with with no information whatsoever other than pure speculation on the internet. I'm just glad it really brought us all together and didn't cause a massive divide in the country is what I'm most. What's funny is that on Twitter or X like it was actually 30 minutes after it happened. It was way less of a

Then a day later, a day later is when everybody decided that they were coming up with their theories. Ballistics experts. Yeah. People never touched a gun in their life. We're like, well, that was obviously a piece of glass, not a bullet. Like how? If a five, five, six would have hit his ear, his head would have exploded. We all know that the damage, everyone pressure. They all became protection experts. They all became ballistics experts. Yeah. Yeah. There was that. There was that one viral tweet on Twitter. The, it was a Marine officer.

Yeah, he was a Marine. He was like, I'm a combat Marine. I've been there before. If a five, five, six hits you, it destroys everything around it. There's a reason they had to, uh, he's like, there's a reason they had to identify those kids by DNA only. Do you saw that? No, I just, I just remembered both of these guys got Marty is in the background right now. He'll be on. They both got shot in basic training by five, five, six.

He's the other one that got shot in basic training. Me? Lord, how did you survive? Me, Marty Scolding and Donald Trump. We rock in this boat together, boys. You've got the five, five, six teardrop tattoos together. It's a very like the whole bullet. He got shot by a saw, too, right? Oh, just a normal rifle. Hmm. Same round. Same round. Yeah. Are you serious?

Oh, God. Yeah, we'll get that. Oh, I forgot about that. I looked over. I was like, good story. You'll never see so much scarring without a purple heart as you will in this room right now. That shows you all three of us have been shot by five. Well, I got 762, but like bounce. We don't have massive scars. Do you have any spare purple hearts you could give Marty and I?

You already gave them all to Brandon. We got to get you a Medal of Honor, dude. I don't think we do. Oh, dude, we got Clint's coming. Oh, great. Yeah, no, he's got spares. When's he coming? He's trying to do next month. Oh, yeah. Well, I've got a good Medal of Honor guy if you want one. He can do all the branches. Dude, it's going to be a Medal of Honor recipient and Clint Romache. I already know the title for that episode. And Brandon's just going to be like,

I love how that went from just a small inside joke to now everywhere on the unsubreddit, there's just pictures of me photoshopped in North Korean generals with an entire chest full of medals. And the best part is AI...

Now when AI chat GDP makes you it because it has to come the Internet. It's like he is a soldier. That's why it puts dog tags on you. Did you ever think about that? I was like, oh, the AI actually is like Brandon is a US soldier Army veteran Medal of Honor. Well, at least we're not at Skynet yet or it happens. It wipes out everyone. They leave you alive. You're like you are a true hero. What do you want to do next? Oh,

When dude, it's so funny. We were generating those images on chat GBT the other day and I was just like generating all my friends like, you know, of course you're in like battle rattle and like showed me because I'm military and battle route. I searched Brandon and it showed him in a plate carrier and camo dog tags. Yes, this is awesome. My favorite part was that you had like a flamboyant gun like that. Your current haircut tattoos.

It gave me a pink, like it gave me like an UU gun. Didn't it? Yeah. Yeah. That's on brand. I know AI. It's shockingly close. And same for veteran brand. Shut up. I was here. We were going to talk about an assassination. Damn. Okay. So this is Jack. We text Jack today. We were sitting at lunch. We were going through everything. And then, uh,

Text you and we all agree like, yo, Jack would be good. We text you and you're like, I've been doing research on all the assassinations. Like we're doing a podcast today. Everyone good. Everyone good. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. And then you're doing research on assassinations and my God, somebody beat me to it. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I was just, you know, doing a little research material for, you know, what? Jesus Christ. And that's it. That's going to be a two second reel. Do we cut that? Oh, great. So it just cuts to the Zapruder film.

Dude, I mean, starting, we can all go over. First off, cold barrel, all that stuff. It's not... That's a hard-ass shot if you're with a cold barrel and a red dot and the bullets. You're not grazing somebody's ear on purpose with that rifle. Well, especially if you have a shitty DPMS, which he had. You had a zero magnification on that, like a shitty little red dot. And you're a 20-year-old retard with the muscle mass of a high school cheerleader. Yeah.

Missing that shot is really not a surprise. Someone said it was a DPMS, right? Yeah, it was a DPMS right there. That is like a two to three minute MOA rifle? I mean, that was like PSA before PSA, which is funny because they're owned by PSA now, but...

So that minute of angle means MOA is one is your standard. You like one to one is a good AR, which means it's one inch at a hundred yards, two inches at 200 yards. Yeah. And then that means if you have a two to three MOA at 100 yards, you have a two inch any which way like shot group that's going to happen. Yeah. If you're three inch at a hundred yards, then you're like what? Four and a half at 150. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, literally four and a half. So you have a four and a half inch wiggle room. That's a good size. Some would say too much, frankly. Yeah.

You don't want to hurt the poor girl, you know? Did you say four and a half inch wiggles? But it is four and a half inch playroom on a two MOA red dot that is taking up a majority of a head at 150 yards. Basically, if you had dialed in like a laser, you have four and a half inches of play. This is a robot. Yeah, if you are like locked down, zero variation from the shooter at all or the optic. And that's without the seven to 10 mile per hour crosswind feature.

Going into account. So a robot shooting perfectly would still, it could go any which way on that. So just the idea, just so you all understand how ballistics work and at that distance, how difficult it would be to just nick a ear. I saw somebody comment. They said, this is the first time a low left shooter won someone in election. The Captain America. So you whiffed it low left. For those who don't know the shooting community, shooting low left is like a meme.

meme it's like what every inexperienced shooter does is they they whiff it low into the left anticipate recoil and then trigger like trigger pull all those little and take that into account it's like trigger pull breathing if it's not an easy shot to do it is if you're trained but also you'd need a

like a sniper sniper rifle to nip an ear. Oh, yeah, no, no. If you wanted to do it on purpose, like nick the ear on purpose, that's damn near impossible with that setup. Yeah, exactly. So that's clear. Now, absolutely bananas that all that happened, period. Oh, yeah, yeah. We were just hanging out, I think, right before. Then we got home, and I think one of you, were we hanging out that day? I think so, yeah.

We got home, and then it was like, I don't know, six in the afternoon. My phone explodes. And I thought it was a joke at first. And sure enough, like, oh, damn. Were you just like, what the fuck? I was visiting an old dear friend of mine that I served in the Marines with. And he's currently a 10th group guy. So he's got some years of combat experience under him. We both...

Kind of, you know, while nobody had any information on what was going on, but we both kind of said to each other, if you look at historically these assassination attempts or successful assassinations, it's typically less politically motivated, more they're just pure nut jobs.

We still don't know what this guy's deal with. We're finding out more about him. That's never stopped anyone before. Keep going. Historically speaking, when you look at people that have attempted the lives of U.S. presidents or have successfully done it, it's typically not politically motivated. They're just nuts. Well, how else is Jodie Foster going to pay attention to me? Exactly! No, that hot dog strut and floozy. I don't know.

Now we're just going to put Jodie Foster in the thumbnail too. Random attack on Jodie Foster successful. She watches. She's a huge fan. She replies. She's like, fuck you, Jack Mandeville. Wow.

Wow. Something tells me Jodie Foster does not watch Unsubscribe. Maybe. Maybe she does. Jodie, what do you think? Yeah. Just be aware of your friends who love J.D. Salinger. That's all I got to say. Which one was that? He wrote Catcher in the Rye. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah, I know that part. Oh, really? Was that? Oh, no. I thought that was the John Lennon assassination. Both. Both were Catcher in the Rye. Yeah. Somebody needs to start figuring that book out. Yeah, that book really. Let's burn some books. Yeah. I didn't want to go there. I stopped myself about halfway through that sentence, but I'm glad you finished it.

Yeah. Also, Cody plays a Nazi here this week. Hi. Burn books. I lost my locket, but I can still burn some books. Yeah, we got Tiny Guns 3 coming out here in a couple days, right?

By the time this comes out, maybe tomorrow? This will come out tomorrow. This is like a Wednesday release. This is a fast turnaround. Shout out to Dave Reardon for turning it around. Shout out to you two for showing up too on that quick. Can I give a shout out to Dave Reardon? Have you ever noticed with Dave, he's the best at leaving comments in the comments section. I don't think there's anybody that's as funny in the comments section as Dave Reardon is. Never mind. On IG, he's

King at that. He's so good at just saying something snarky.

at the right time. I posted a picture of me in the new car and his response was like, does it come in men's? I was like, you Dave. I don't even got a response. There was a Justin, Justin Governal. If anyone doesn't know Justin, he's really big in a dog rescue. Justin Governal commented on a post I was on recently and Dave, Dave commented as his, the podcast, he goes, well,

We will give you $10 or we will give $10 to a dog shelter. If God, what did he say? God, I just ruined this. This is really, you're doing great. Sorry. No, hold up. I got to look it up.

I gotta look it up now. Aw, jeez, I'm so sorry. I just made this show. In reality, like, he's... So, Justin Gobernol is a friend of ours, the naked and afraid guy and everything like that, but he's super into dog rescue because I think he secretly fights them. Yeah. It's Hispanic. You know, it's in our blood. He's a fighter. He wants to fight. Yeah, he is an MMA fighter. He literally fights the dogs. He fights the dogs. He's like, I love dogs. Gobernol says... He doesn't make the dog fight each other. He fights the dogs. Yeah, he gets naked. Like...

Governor says, what's your policy on gay abortions? And Dave replies, we will donate $10 to a local dog shelter if you unfollow us.

That's really funny. Ever since I've known him, like if Dave makes a comment in any type of corporate post or a personal post, it's going to be funny. Dude, Dave is, he's our thumbnail guy. He has like changed. That dude is absolutely amazing at thumbnails that none of us knew for a majority. And so every time a video doesn't get the views we want it to, we blame Dave. You got that?

That was the big, that's the holdover joke over in the old Drinking Bros days, you know, just blame Dave. Blame salty Dave. That's one thing we can always agree on is we can always blame Dave. He's editing this too. God damn it. Love you, Dave. Drinking Bros getting PTSD. Now we got to deal with him. But he does make the best thumbnails. He's killing it. Great editor. Okay, we're about to go into this assassination history. We're about to.

Tiny Guns 3. This is prepping for it. They've got to watch. We've got to watch a rough, almost final rough. But it is good.

holy shit i've seen the the first rough the second rough and you're like when you edit when you do anything like that you have to take a step back and be like ah it'll get there it's place holding sound music holy it was shot great who shot that corridor corridor yeah yeah i was uh there were some bits like because i saw a very rough rough where no cgi no sound design any of that and there were certain bits where i'm like all right well that

like I'll trust the process, you know, trust the science, so to speak. But I'm like, I'm like, this is kind of a little drawn out. Like, I really hope this is funny in the final cut. And once I saw what they did with it, I was laughing my ass off. Like it was, it was well done. The reveal with your character, I won't give it away, but the reveal with your character is phenomenal. That's the end. Yeah, dude. And all of our friends were there too. And the death.

Your death is fucking amazing. It's pretty good. Dude, his death... You should actually... How long is it? Just show the death to Jack really quick. I saw the rough cut. I showed him my death. Oh, the actual... The violent, violent one? Yeah, Jake was over. He showed us the rough cut. Dude, it... Bro, we had...

We had us. We had administrative results. We had Grantham. We had electrician. We had Micah. Scott, Kentucky Ballistics. Kentucky Ballistics. Kayla Francis. Kayla Francis. We had, dude, everyone was there. Everyone in that space was there acting, killing it, too. Demolition Ranch was my Nazi buddy. Oh!

which I mean, Jesus Christ, good time to bring him up. I was going to say that with all the shit going on with him right now. I'm like, I just thinking in the, in the back of my mind. So for those who don't know the, and we'll get into this later, cause this is its own ordeal. The guy who took the shot in Pennsylvania on Trump was wearing a demolition shirt. Again, motive and everything is, is completely different story. But like,

We there was it was demolition was in the headlines for some not great reasons. And then on Twitter, everybody was going crazy because he just posted that selfie a month ago when they were dressed as SS officers like, oh, he's a political, huh? And I'm just in the back of my head. I'm like, let's just can we post tiny guns? Because this is it's in a vacuum. This is really bad. You get to see how dumb people are when they just assume like.

We're not just wearing... Marty, we're not wearing SS costumes for fun. Just so you know, you're eyeballing me over here like, bro, I was an Ionvite. I showed up in mine. They got mad at me. Yeah, Marty looks airy in his tall, blonde, blue eyes. Jawohl. But it was... People just don't separate...

Reading comments, it's like, well, they should at least... They didn't have to be in all proper Nazi outfits. They could have done one-offs instead. You're doing a...

where Nazis are getting killed. No one's going to cry about that. That's the joke. That's the whole joke of the video is you're killing Nazis. We don't rewrite history because you're uncomfortable with a word or imagery that pops up, especially when it's not like we're... It's for a film. That's like being mad at Tarantino for everything he does. I just don't understand people not being able to separate. Yeah, it was for a bit. They were acting for...

You know, are you just like you're getting mad at the guy who played Jeffrey Dahmer? Like, you know, that's just it's irritating. Like the low. I still hate the guy who played Corporal Upham and saving Private Ryan. I'll never get over that shit. That's fair, though.

He's a good actor. He really did his job well. I want to beat the shit out of Corporal Upham. It's like Geoffrey from Game of Thrones. That dude got so much hate. That's why he's quit acting, too. He was like, yeah, after that, I was good. Hey, you did a really good job. People are going to hate you. Luckily, he gets to quit acting after a really nice HBO paycheck for a few years. That's at least kind of nice. He's set for a long time.

well you know what i love like uh the harry potter kid uh what's his name yeah daniel ratcliffe that dude uh was set up with basically generational wealth by the time he turned 18 what i love about that guy hey he's a really good actor so he does the this big you know box office uh franchise for his entire childhood and now that he's just got

money he just takes the weirdest roles he just does it the weirdest movies because he doesn't need the money swiss army man yeah he just does the weirdest roles because like i don't need the money i just gotta have fun with this yeah swiss army man uh what was it the guns akimbo like just stupid premises but he has so much fun with it yeah he's just like just he literally gets to act purely for fun at this point

that's living that's living yeah also he didn't have a childhood because he was on film sets you know his entire childhood so they set up for a long time he's good he's set up as far as yeah he's not one of those weird child actors he's done very well and then demo oh but going back to like the demo the nazi stuff demo does not desert like demo is one of the kindest humans we we know he's just driven by he's motivated

He's a veterinarian. He's trying to help others. That's how his whole operation, the YouTube started, was veterinarian stuff, right? Well, he's got a separate channel, Vet Ranch, which had a couple million subs back in the day, but YouTube cracked down on it because it was graphic content, even though he's like, dude, we blur anything that's super crazy, but I'm saving animals. Wait, I can't jerk off this horse on YouTube anymore?

We used to be a proper country. I'm sorry. I've never watched his veterinary channel, man. This is his 52 versions of this video. I'm not a hundred percent confident that that wasn't one of the videos he put up. Uh, I don't know. I make a horse come number eight.

He's the most wholesome dude ever, man. He's the best of us. When he's not with a horse. Yeah, when he's not making horses come. Hey, that's just work, baby. His first time cussing, I think he said a slip up one time, but Unsep was the first time he ever cursed, period, on the internet. Yeah, on the internet. I mean, he's... No, I saw those white robes in his closet, so yeah.

Just kidding. I've had two conversations with him. I don't know him.

But he's a good dude. Like everyone on this side will verify just what it just an unfortunate circumstance that happened. That's the irritating part, because I'll say this about I'll say it about character and I'll say it about Scott from Kentucky Ballistics. Like those they are the best of us. They are the most wholesome, just family men. They I mean, they don't really get political. They don't do anything like the most Matt has ever gotten political, I think.

was helping me out during my campaign and that was and because we're homies yeah like that that was the most he's ever gotten political because like and people do that by the way where like i'm sorry for interrupting no people do that like they just want if you're friends with someone and even if you don't like agree with their politics if you're homies with someone you're like i want my friend to succeed that's it it's that simple yeah and like i he uh it's a concept

People actually used to get pissed at him, or a lot of them still do, because they're like, he never supports, he never goes outspoken about two-way rights and the Constitution, stuff like that. And I'm like, I've always, my defense for him has always been, he's the beginning of the funnel. You know, like, you have to get people interested before you start screaming. Like, that shit's super important, but before you can scream at somebody about, my Constitution, my rights, this, this, this.

Get him interested. The John Wicks, the Call of Duties, things like that that make people think guns are cool and they want to start looking into it. Like, that shit is how you get people into the Second Amendment in the first place. You're talking to a girl or parents for the first time. You're trying to introduce them to something. I'm not going to show Brandon Herrera's assassination video, which, stay tuned. Well, I don't think you should, frankly.

That's like the first video. You're like, hey, check it. This guy's really cool. You're like, okay, this is him assassinating Martin Luther King. That's a speech check right there. I mean, if you pass that. I just like guns because of what they can do to people. And what's that? I'm not going to make that joke. I don't know what it's called. I just know the sound it makes when I take a man's life. Yeah.

Jesus. I just know the sound it makes when it nicks a man's ear. Of course, that was fake because the experts on Twitter told me. He cut himself with glass, right? It was a piece of glass that went flying by, I think. Either that or it was a blood packet that he smeared on his ear. Regardless, I've seen shrapnel do more damage to people than bullets have. Either way, that was not a good situation to be in.

Either way, no matter what it was, there was a gunman at about 130 yards that fired multiple shots at the former president and current presidential candidate of the United States. Who is also wearing a Demolition Ranch t-shirt.

And then he got screwed. Well, it's stepping back on that. What was that last bit? Sorry. Modifying that. Because Matt's going through a shit storm. That's like the main thing I want to take away. Yeah. The history on assassination. I'm glad you did research on that shit. It is a one-off. It's very rare to happen in our lifetime.

40 years ago was the last time. Over 40 years ago. Reagan, yeah. And that's ridiculous. And then, as everyone said, it was Demo woke up to, I seen the shooter's name, Trump's name, and then his own name being all mentioned in the same article. And then you have individuals like, when's the last time you talked to the shooter? Yeah.

He has a militia now, apparently, because his name is Demilitia. The Demilitia. It's perfectly normal to read the comments section when you have about 8,000 comments and try to get to know every single person that's commenting on your videos. 8,000 is cute. He's probably like... Yeah, exactly. I don't know. But I only watch him for his horse jerk-off videos, all right?

Surprisingly fewer comments on those videos. Jack replying to himself. He's time stamping segment. It's a thread of one. It's Jack Mandeville one, Jack Mandeville two. That guy seems a little nuts. Like he might try to shoot the president or something. Yo, 658, man. Jesus Christ. Church's original recipe is back. You can never go wrong with original.

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No, but that's what got me kind of militant about it is because the media, I saw a couple of articles where they described the demolition, which is not a thing. That's just like a slang word for the people who watch Demolition Ranch videos. Like, oh, hey, the demolition. It's like your group of people, your audience. It's not a militia. He's not training in northern Michigan with a bunch of insulin-needing...

fat dudes in the woods but they were just saying like they were saying it's a right-wing militia based out of texas it's like no you retard you didn't do you didn't even so much as google it he created the name and he just like put it out i forget how he's like oh this and then the response was like oh that's it that is all that's how that name was like this sounds cool

that's all there was to it there is no actual demolition there's nothing and it's just the it's the shitty reporters but yeah i saw multiple articles do that so that's why i kind of went on the warpath about it because it's like dude this is my friend and when people go after my friends for bullshit yeah no i'm gonna i'm gonna be more hateful than they are oh yeah and we're very that's what i love about all the guys it's like the bro community the community down here everyone just has each other's back when it's like overstep that line it's like

It's like when they went after Wendigoon. Oh, dude, I've never seen someone fuck the Labrador Retriever. He's a, what is it? It's a golden retriever pup that is adorned by a pack of wolves. Yeah. It's like weird. Wendigoon is, do you know Wendigoon? I've seen that. He's been on y'all's show. He is one of the nice, most wholesome dudes. And then people went at him for a couple of random stuff, but.

you have all the boys is he a twitcher no he just youtube he's a that you would love him he's a history slash book nerd oh really oh i agree like that twitch community seems like super toxic oh yeah i only know about it from like i read their controversies on x we're all like yeah but what are the toxic ones

No, I see these controversies happen on X. It seems like a place where everyone just wants to burn each other. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. They're the least happy with themselves out of any community I've ever seen. It's like it's where Tumblr went to live stream. Yeah. I was telling Marty on the way in here. I was like, for the first time in like years, I looked at the comment section on YouTube when you told me to. And I said, unsubscribe community is like really frustrating.

It creeps me out how positive these people are. It's a really supportive place, man. I don't trust them. That's what you got. I have a text. It's one of my favorite Jack texts. It felt nice. About that. You actually read it. I read like 4,000 comments. I was like,

These are all positive. What the fuck is going on? What kind of YouTube is this? It's crazy. My favorite Jack text was a video of Matt Carriker jerking off a horse. But, you know, hey. To me, that's a Hall of Famer video right there.

You didn't have to keep sending it. It's a character jerking off the horse, the freaking Star Wars kid in the garage, and the shoes thing. Oh, we'll get into the shoes thing. Oh, right here. Yeah. Thank you for having me on. I did what you said and read the comment section and ended up leaving my first comment ever on YouTube. And it's just being a positive. I've just filmed another. Eli told me to check out the comment section of this episode. I was told it did well.

I've been popping up on YouTube, sketching podcast, blah, blah, blah. I just want to thank you for having read that one story you did. Thank you guys so much. And here's a video of Matt Caracastro jerking off. The timestamp. Skip to the good part. Let's skip to the good part.

But yeah, it is. We are blessed with an amazing community. Oh man, those live shows you guys did. Yeah, holy moly, man. Just... You get into a little silo when you do stuff on the internet a lot and you...

Whether you're making videos or writing articles, you don't really see people's react. All you can do is read the comments section, but it's not a really good gauge of reality. So, you know, those live shows were a true testament to the community you guys have built and the community itself. Yeah, we're going to have to make sure that we're definitely going to be doing more live shows here at the end of the year. We're just going to have to make sure that they're nowhere near sloped rooftops.

Out in the open. Just because there's a lot of people that will probably take it as a challenge at this point. Stay out of Allegheny County, boys. Jesus. I can't wait. Fucking hell. This is going to be one of the podcasts we've ever done. This is going to be one of the most political podcasts. Also, I read... I mean, it's really not. No, but it happened. It was weird going outside the community and seeing other comments. It's like, oh, how do other communities view UNSUB? It's like, oh, they're super political. And I was like, no. That dude has never watched a single episode of...

we pride ourselves on that one thing even Brandon running I love that you were running and we still we were running for I was running for office and we still did the podcast the entire time and I would briefly mention like shit from the campaign trail like whatever but I wasn't sitting here like and that's why we need to like I never used it as a

I like how you just went full millennial and instead of turning into a proper, you know, perfect politician, you just like kept doing this podcast and leaned into it even more. I had so many people asking me, so they're like, so...

You get into office, you're going to stop the podcast, right? I'm like, no. We're not talking politics. We're talking about people jerking horses off, man. And they had to spend $10 million to barely stop a YouTuber from getting in. That's my favorite thing. That will be a crowning achievement until the day I die. Oh, yeah. That's real power when you think about it. That was a shot off the bow that hopefully District 23 realizes, but also I think

this is going to be a political case study for a long time because this changed a lot. Well, we're going to see too. I mean, it's anyone that's is motivated in politics. They don't have to come from the normal route like they used to, where you go to law school and you do this and do that.

And again, in American history, we've had actors and musicians become political leaders. But you're going to see it's going to be a thing. YouTubers will start doing this and they will leverage their online popularity to to get votes. Yeah. And that's that's something that I if I could get on the soapbox real quick for just one thing just about what the implications are for that is I say it's I said it at the very end of my campaign. I'm like, this is the beginning of open source politics.

You know, the big money doesn't matter as much as it used to. They spent they outspent me ten to one spending about a ten about ten million dollars to shut off a YouTuber. That is incredible. That means that the deep state money doesn't spend like it used to and that the traditional media sources that they can just throw money at don't have as much of an impact as a social media campaign. And that scares the dog shit out of me. And to your credit, you you hit the campaign trail. You were. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We were like April. There was a 20-day period where I had 30 events in 20 days or something like that. Like I was doing multiple events per day all over a district that's like seven, eight hours wide. Yeah. Mr. Beast announced that if the age was – if they lowered the age, he would run for president. But I'm wondering if he continues on his path if he does that period. Because Mr. Beast, if he ran for president –

He would... I don't think he would win. Like, if he ran right now, he would come nowhere close to winning. But he would probably pull more than RFK. He could... I'm dead serious. He could Ross Perot an election and disrupt... Oh, everything. Yeah. That's a good pull. Ross Perot is a very good pull. He's perfect. A billionaire philanthropist that was also a soldier. He was...

I don't know. I don't know. I know that he did a lot of stuff for veterans. He had a huge nonprofit. I forget what it's called, but Ross Brooks and yeah, no, but Ross Perot, like if Ross Perot didn't exist, George, George H.W. Bush would have won a second term. He pulled a lot of Republican votes from,

I'm sure maybe some Democrat votes too, but he disrupted it for George H.W. Bush. He was a very big financial, like fiscal conservative. And so he would buy his own airtime on TV and just like stand in front of the fucking whiteboard. He's just like, listen here, this can't stand. Like just...

bought his own yeah billionaire and he was like he was kind of like bernie ron paul bernie sanders he was the he was the predecessor to the the ron paul bernie sanders revolutions yeah like on paper he was the trump without the the mass appeal yeah

Yeah. Yeah. Well, the 2016 election was the first time in American history where both candidates had 100% name recognition. Yeah. If you think of previous candidates, they would come up at the last second. People had to learn about them. Everybody knew who Hillary Clinton was and everybody knew who Donald Trump was. Oh yeah. I never thought about that. Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah. Coming up in any of these before it was not known. Now Obama popped out at the last second. Um, people know who George Bush was because his family, but, uh,

Actually, if you think about it, every single election since then has been the same.

Yeah. I think Biden because he was the vice president. Yeah. I think moving forward, you'll always have that precedence now. Like the general audience or the general populace will know who they are. It's like anything. It's like the publishing industry, the movie industry. Nobody wants to take a chance on what they don't know anymore. They just go for the surefire thing. Star Wars 18. Politics is following Hollywood. We're getting the Biden versus Trump sequel. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, well, this is the franchise I'm familiar with. It makes money.

Oh, no, I hate that more than anything. No, no. You want change? Fuck you. No. You got this 40-year-old with really a lot of energy and great ideas. You're going to have to wait at least 30, 40 years. We need him old, ancient. Okay. Well, I mean, you got J.D. Vance that's coming in at 39 as a vice president. That's...

That's pretty young. Yeah, that is. I don't know if that's the youngest, but yeah, that's pretty young. One of the youngest. Definitely not the youngest, I don't think. Former enlisted guy? Gross! Kennedy was the youngest president, right? He was 39 or 41. How old was Kennedy? That's a great question. Yeah, it would have been late 30s, early 40s. I think he was the youngest president. You got the nightmare breakup? Marty! Is that true? Ross Crowe served in the Navy for four years.

Oh, hey, he is a Navy man. Ross Perot was a Navy man. I get it now. So my parents are boomers. I would imagine all of our parents are boomers. I get it now when Clinton came to office why that was such a big deal because that was the boomer generation's first time that they had their guy in power. And as millennials, and even there's Gen X, but they're not real. Um...

But like as a millennial, I get it now why my parents' generation were so eager, Republican or Democrat, just to get someone from their generation into power. And I feel like our generation is having to wait longer than usual to have one of ours in power. Oh, yeah. And these two old guys running for president, it's no different. It's a representation of the American workforce. Like these people will not relinquish their.

Power, they gotta go. Just retire, sit in your recliner, watch Fox News, and die. Please. Jesus Christ.

I'll applaud that. JFK was 43 when he became president. And that was the youngest president ever? I don't know if it was the youngest. Clinton was in his early 40s, if I recall. Was he really? He was that young? Yeah, and Obama, he's a boomer, but he's like a younger boomer. Yeah, I want to say he was like in the mid-40s. Yeah, yeah. It was like mid-40s. It was like 47, I think? 36. 42. 42.

So JFK by one year. I was wrong. You know, JFK and Theodore Roosevelt both have something in common.

They died. Crazy person shot him. Jesus Christ. See, I was right. Brain, stop shaking your head. Well, to be fair, to be fair, everyone, we don't exactly know if the guy who shot JFK was crazy. Might've just been doing his job. So the majority of these attempted or successful political assassinations, American history, like I said, were crazy people. JFK and Lincoln were, that leans more on the politically motivated side.

He should have just let the Federal Reserve take over. He'd still be alive. Well, not now, but... Lay down and take it like that woman who died in your brother's car and Chabakwit it. No one's going to get that reference. Those are the best jokes to say.

There's going to be four people in the comments like, I get that. Yeah. You did a Ted Kennedy joke. It goes to the top. They've been waiting for that. So what is the first assassination? We'll just do a quick history lesson from Mr. Jack Mandeville. First successful assassination? I'm by no means a subject matter expert on this, but coincidentally, a few months ago, I was doing research. We wrote and shot one of the episodes I'm doing for my new history YouTube channel that...

A few guys around me right now encouraged. No, I'm really, thank you guys for encouraging. I'm so proud, dude. I'm so proud of you because you sent roughs and you like, it's getting, you're working with. We got three episodes shot. I'm going to do one more. I want to, I just want to have some stuff to, to have just in case I'm traveling or whatever. And then we're going to release. Anyways, I was doing a read. One of the subjects I'm doing is on Robert Todd Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln's son, who's

arguably one of the most unluckiest in American history. But so the first successful assassination attempt was on Abraham Lincoln. We all know what happened there.

But that was politically motivated. John Wilkes Booth, his assassin, it was purely politically motivated. Which is wild because there were the rest of the assassination that was supposed to go down. It was a conspiracy. There were a few of them involved with that. The only person who followed through with it was John Wilkes Booth. John Wilkes Booth. Because they were supposed to take out Stanton, right? Stanton, the vice president. That was a

He tried, but he just wasn't successful with it. What happened? One guy got pulled. They were trying to take out the entire cabinet, essentially. It was a conspiracy. This is like a coup, an actual coup. Yeah, so I think there was eight or nine people that went to trial, and I think eight of them were hung for it. But it was a pure conspiracy that was led by a f***ing actor, of all people. And by the way, the Booth family...

They were acting royalty. I don't know what the modern equivalent would be. Tom Cruise? The Baldwins. The Baldwins did kill someone. These goddamn actors. Yeah, damn.

And Edwin Booth, the oldest brother who was by far the most accomplished of all. Oh, the Hemsworths. It's like Chris Hemsworth. Yes, yeah. Taking out. Yeah. Edwin Booth was a pure actor in the sense that he didn't get involved with politics. He stayed out of that stuff. He just was on stage. Where John Wilkes, he got really obsessed about Abraham Lincoln there at the end. You don't say. Yeah. Anyway, so that was the first one. Politically motivated. The second successful presidential assassination was James Garfield's.

That was a guy named Charles Gatteau who was batshit crazy. Charles Gatteau was the guy he had like

He worked at a very low level in the administration, but in his head, Garfield had promised him all these cabinet positions and everything, but he was just like a crazy guy that. Oh, so he, they actually had zero communication. It was just in his head. All this. Yeah. He's like the guy that like keeps texting you for like two years straight, having a conversation with him and you never respond, but he thinks that like you're in love with him. And then he drives, you know, across state lines to try to hurt you.

That's what Charles Gatteau did to James Garfield. Did he shoot him? I don't even know this one. This is like, I've never Googled assassinations. Yeah, he shot Garfield and Garfield.

Robert Todd Lincoln was there when his dad died, and Robert Todd Lincoln was there for the shooting of Charles Coteau as well because he was in the Garfield cabinet. Didn't he go to try to save somebody at some point? I can't remember what that was. Someone's son, he got saved off a train? That was Edwin Booth saved Robert Todd Lincoln's life like five months before John Wilkes Booth assassinated his dad. That's what I was thinking. Yeah.

crazy shit. Yeah, dude, they should make a movie about it. Like that's the craziest story ever. The real life. That's like the real life for us. Gum. Yeah, but no, that's like, but that's like if fricking it, that's like if one of the Baldwin brothers like saved Hunter Biden's life and then one of the other bald probably Alec because he's already killed, but Alec goes and takes care of Donald. Like what the just happened? It's like Baron Trump being saved by Stephen Baldwin. Like, wait a second. Yeah,

Off the tracks, little hand reaches. Yeah. And that's the thing is, Robert Todd Lincoln recognized Edwin Booth. Like, this is the most famous actor in America. Back then, they didn't give a fuck who the president's kids were. So Edwin Booth's like, yeah, just save some dude's life. It was the president's kid. And then, so the next one, the next successful attempt. How did he kill? It was just gunshot? It was gunshot, yeah. I think he got him in the stomach.

1800s, you die. He died of... No, that was McKinley. But it took him a while to die. So McKinley died of sepsis. So back then they tried to amputate your stomach. It didn't work. When was McKinley? Like 19...

McKinley was 18... Oh, no. McKinley was like 1901 was his assassination. He, 1898, he was killed during the third year of his presidency. Guess who else was there for the hat? Robert Todd Lincoln was there for that one, too. It was at the World Expo. McKinley was... He invited Robert Todd. Robert, at that point... I would never have that guy around anything. I'm like, this guy's an inside... That would...

he's a clinton at that he's the umbrella guy at the jfk thing literally it's the clinton who's like why is he always there and people dying yeah robert todd lincoln at that point he had retired from he was a very accomplished diplomat very accomplished he was the secretary of war which was a big position very accomplished guy arguably other than being present more accomplished did more than his father did um but again like that guy was just a bad luck charm and he had retired from public life because he's like i'm

There's a lot more shit that happened with him, too, that I won't even get into. Yeah, he retired from public life, but McKinley's like, hey, man, everyone like your old Republican dad? I'm a Republican. Why don't you come out to this expo? And then McKinley got shot. He's like the slender man of history. He's always there in the background of a photo somewhere. Yeah. And then the guy...

The guy who shot McKinley, you could call it politically motivated, but he was like an anarchist and a nut job. Because most anarchists are nut job, except for Neil Peart. He's awesome, man. He wrote all them freaking Rush songs. And glittering prizes and endless compromises. Shuttle to the illusion of integrity. What the fuck does that mean? Only Neil Peart knows what that means.

Anyway. And you, Jack. Yeah. So wait, that guy was just crazy and? I mean, he was an anarchist, but. So what was his reasoning behind it? I couldn't tell you. Man.

You'd have to figure out the rush. If you want to talk about deep state, McKinley was arguably the first deep state president because the first American, not the first, but the biggest, the first big American conspiracy that ever happened was the bombing of the USS Maine and our then involvement in the Spanish American war. And their conspiracy is that we bombed the USS Maine ourselves so we could justify because it was US policy like

Spain had two strongholds left in our part of the world, Puerto Rico and Cuba, and America was hell-bent. It had been our policy for 80 years at that point that we need to get these European out of our area. And the conspiracy is that McKinley...

bomb the USS Maine on purpose just so he could justify pushing Spain out of Cuba and Puerto Rico. Or at the very least, the idea was that if there was a cigarette goes in the wrong direction, it blows up anyway. The entire

War Department's like, oh, that. Yeah. We're doing that now. They blew it up. I want to play with these toys. We got Gatling guns now. The engine blew up. Didn't someone confirm it or no one confirmed anything? We just talked about that. The accusation was that Spain bombed the U.S.'s main, but there was no incentive for Spain to do something like that. Their military was already crumbling. There's no reason why the government of Spain would have sanctioned a terrorist bombing

on a U.S. naval ship. Don't f*** with the ships, dude. Don't f*** with America's boats. To be fair, they could have easily said that about Pearl Harbor, too. Like, why in the f*** would they ever? Jesus Christ! Why are those white guys flying rising sun planes right there? Konnichiwa!

It's exactly what they did. It's Imperial Japan, not modern Japan. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the Twink Air Force, man. The UU Air Force? Yeah. Yeah, and so... And then the next attempted non-successful, and it's arguably...

I don't want to, you know, everyone's, you know, and I don't mean to make this political, but everyone's all, you know, people that love Trump are really like, this is the most badass thing ever. I'm like, the most badass thing ever was the attempt on Teddy Roosevelt's life. Nothing comes close to that. Because didn't it hit the speech? Yeah, yep. And they still have the papers from his speech with a bullet hole in it. Hit him in the lower chest or stomach. And that

Gets right back up, stands up, and says something I'm paraphrasing. It'll take a lot more than a bullet to kill a bull moose. And finished his speech. And then didn't get elected. And the guy who shot him. Yeah, exactly. The guy who shot him.

Not job. He was having dreams that President McKinley was telling him to avenge his death by killing Teddy Roosevelt. So that's why he was a shopkeeper. And his name was Shank or Shrank or something like that. You know what Jared told me? I don't know if I want to hear it after this. Follow up on that conversation. I put my.

My beloved dog down. The love of my life, my dog Taco. I put him down. Shout out to Taco. Pour one out for Taco. Yeah. Taco's one of the best. Jared invited me to his place. And I show up to his place and he goes, Hey man, I found pictures of puppies on Taco's hard drive. Oh my God.

Okay, that made you laugh. It did. It completely broke me out of my sadness. I was like, what the f***? It's like the Rick and Morty. It's like... I'm such a good skater. Holy f***. Let them have the bulldog they remember, not the bulldog he was. Jesus Christ. And his dad was sitting right there and his dad's like...

Jesus Christ. Oh, it's such a good bit. Yeah. It did. It made me laugh and took me out of the sadness. Holy shit. But that was slander. My dog was not a profile. I swear to God, man. I mean, you don't know. My dog did not make it puppies. No, I monitored his fricking computer usage, man. He's like a, you know, you gotta, you gotta keep a watch on him. That's how I found out, uh,

Bulldogs have the mouth. It's like it's looking at like an alien autopsy. I mean, they are. They are British. That's a good joke, too. Yeah. Yeah. That's why they have British. You're on an island. Their family tree looks like a telephone pole. Dave, pull up bull bulldogs. The top of their mouth. Yeah. I should call her. Yeah.

Old Toothy McGee. Yeah, so Roosevelt was unsuccessful. It's funny you say it. Still lost the election. That was what... He did the entire speech afterwards. Yeah, he completed his speech and lived. Roosevelt was a big man. He used to eat like...

four pounds of bacon and like a dozen eggs and like a pot of coffee. Like Roosevelt was. OMG, he's literally me. Oh, yeah. Roosevelt was a burly man. Which is funny. Like if you want to lose complete faith in the third, like the idea of a third party, just know that after two terms, Roosevelt tried running third party and failed. Yeah. Teddy Roosevelt couldn't do it. Damn. Yeah. And never going to happen. But, you know, hey, Jill Stein might make it.

Get 2% of the votes. It's going to crush it. Can't wait. 2% would be a victory. They'd be letting loose the balloons at midnight. Yeah. I hate how true that is. She's my president in Vermont. Yeah. So Teddy, Teddy is probably one of my favorite just for like the rough riders though. Was the, the pig, the war, the,

Who did the war on pigs? What is it? The Bay of Pigs? The Bay of Pigs. Oh, that was Kennedy. I was way off. Never mind. Which that could be. That's part of the conspiracy of why he was killed. The Bay of Pigs was an utter.

People forget with Kennedy, we glamorize and romanticize him now and we hold him on this high pedestal. Marilyn Monroe romanticized him then. Yes, and his brother, Bobby. Both those guys were tagging her. At least they kept it in the family. They kept it in the family. Yeah, those Kennedy boys.

The reason why Kennedy was campaigning so hard in Texas, the reason why he was down here in the first place where he got shot in Dallas was there was a very good chance he might have lost Texas. He had up a lot of things and his chance at winning reelection was not safe. So he was campaigning really hard. People forget like his presidency wasn't that successful. It's,

Richard Nixon was a piece of shit, but he had a more successful presidency than JFK did. And I'm not just talking about the time of his presidency. He actually got a lot more done than Kennedy ever did. Does this stuff you because you have like JFK, the moon landing and what?

Well, JFK, he wasn't. Moon landing was later, I thought. JFK was. Moon landing was 1969. To JFK's credit, he is the one that really. Started the program. Yeah, he's the one that encouraged our venture into space. So he did do a lot of great things. But the Bay of Pigs was like one of the most colossal fuck ups by an American president ever. In my opinion, though, some of the best things Kennedy ever did was the things that he didn't do. The things that he blocked.

Like a lot of the central banking stuff, a lot of things that he would not allow to continue to go forward, taking us off the gold standard, shit like that. Which is crazy. You see it a lot that people that come from these aristocratic, generationally wealthy, you know, New England, Northeastern families. Teddy Roosevelt was one of those guys. They're the ones that want to bust the system down the most because they grew up in it. They know how it works.

And if you get the right one, a JFK or a Teddy Roosevelt, those people genuinely cared about the common man. And they had the, they came from the background to be able to do something about it. Um, when you say, uh, the central banking that JFK bus, or he stopped it. What do you mean by that? That's actually one of the conspiracies as to why he was, you know, axed is, uh, he was, he was basically throwing up, uh,

a big brick wall as far as like taking us off of the gold standard and different things like that, that had to do with the federal reserve. No shit. And so whenever you go against the federal reserve, I mean, Saddam learned, uh, Gaddafi learned like, yeah, don't with the central bank. You will be, uh, replaced very quickly. See, that's the shit I love learning. Cause I don't know a lot of this stuff. I'm not a huge history nerd, uh,

I get you, Nick, Brandon, apparently. Cody, I don't know how much history you go like. A little bit. Well, you get some where your guys' knowledge on that shit. I'm like, okay, I'm going to just shut the fuck up. Hey, it's my autism. I get to pick the special interests. Well, I don't know shit about cameras. It all equals out. I got that all day long. I don't know shit about oppressing minorities. Yeah, Cody, king over here. Yeah, but you guys want to talk about cop stuff and beating up minorities. Here I am.

But I'm actually curious to hear your thoughts about the assassination from your perspective. So as somebody who's done SWAT and different things like that, like...

What was your thought on the way that the snipers and counter-sniping operations were there? Or failed, maybe. It comes down to miscommunication between the different people who are there. Because the Secret Service, they didn't have enough people to watch things. And I'm not blaming it on them completely. But they always bring in local law enforcement to do all the auxiliary stuff around the outside. And people forget former presidents don't have the same details that active presidents do. And then it's a complete failure.

shit show you're playing the telephone game because not everyone might be on the same radio channel like not everyone's communicating properly because you're dealing with just like several agencies so they probably had a sheriff's department there they probably had state police there they probably had local police there and they're all trying to communicate with the secret service they keep john on the phone yeah like get this person get this person there's someone up there there's someone over there and then so there was probably like a huge lack of

communication going on between all these like five or six different agencies, federal and local, just like trying to get their shit together. I mean, my whole thing is that if he was wearing just like a shitty party city cop outfit with patches and shit, we might be having a different conversation. Absolutely.

Oh, my God. If he could have gotten a good rifle up there, not just a red dot. I mean, just not having to, like, the attention that was drawn to him, which caused him to take a hurried shot. Like, if you just... No counter-sniper would take a shot on a guy who's wearing a police uniform without having 100% confirmation. Yeah, so the moral of the story is don't wear demolition ranch shirts when you're doing that shit. A, it makes you a dick, but B...

It's the same thing as like, you know, in the military, if you're walking around with a clipboard or a wrench and you're walking fast, like you have something to do. No one's going to fuck with

with you our ladder if you're carrying a ladder anywhere and like like no one's you own that goes for anything if you own what you're doing if you just have an air of confidence most people aren't going to stop you whether you're security or whatever you just walk in say let's be really clear here that we're not giving tips no god like no no no if you want to sham in the military we got you all day long oh hey i know how to give tips man i'm an actor john wills booth was an actor we know what we're doing dude i would stop you jack

I wouldn't get that far. That's a job for Alec Baldwin, right? Well, it's like the whitest kids you know skit. You can't say this, but if you put a mortar here, you can get a shot directly into the wire. But I can tell you that you can't say it. You can't say that. But... But I can't say it from the top of this building. Because that's its own sentence. The communication with military. You had...

when you see overseas because you don't communicate with any other branch or unit outside your own company so you're not talking like on radios you probably experience the same you don't know what other people are doing i remember we took rounds overhead they didn't hit us and we were just parallel street they started shooting we're like who the is shooting over here mark 19s we heard explosions 50 cal flying over like hey what the what the

And then we had, I forget how it went. It was like we called up to our command, and then they had a relay to the other battalion. It was a different battalion. Like, hey, those are good guys over there. Oh, check your FBCB2. Oh, they're not popping up on our FBCB2. Oh, shit, we won't shoot over there. Sorry. That's at least nice that you have the luxury, I guess, of not doing near-peer, where you can hear it and hear like, oh, that's M2s and Mark 19s. Those are our guys. Let's get on comms right now.

You get really good at distinguishing egg. Like friendly fire from bad guy fire. Right, Marty? That's what I hear. You've been a warrior too. Marty's done more deployments as a journalist than he has as a freaking soldier, as an army ranger. That guy, Marty, like he's one of those journalists that that guy like was putting himself in the hairy ass shit with just a pen in his hand. Dude, fuck that. I don't feel. The pen is mightier than the sword until you get shot.

period or stabbed that sounds like a quote from a bad swordsman like that but in war it's different and then i imagine at the local level to the federal level you have no agencies talking so see your service to fbi to ci to and imagine these guys are like the secret service details having to deal with like different bum sheriff's departments every week

Yeah. Different standards. Exactly. Not only that, you probably have like a lot of the brass, like a bunch of sergeants, lieutenants who are like, we want to protect Trump and they're micromanaging each one of these dudes who are supposed to be on the ground protecting Trump. And they just, there's just nothing going past and nothing getting like rerouted to everyone who needs to know something, all different radio channels, like all different lines of miscommunication. So it was a

And you, and to Cody, like, to really harp on that, imagine you can't do anything without...

If your boss says, do not do anything unless you coordinate with me first so you can see something, then you have to run that up your chain of command. Yeah. Well, I feel like I'm not trying to say the wrong thing here, but I feel like I read somewhere on Twitter, which is the source of all information, someone was saying the snipers, the SWAT team, the local SWAT team was supposed to be on the roof that the shooter was on, and so the counter snipers got confused and

because they saw someone with a rifle and it just like confused them for a couple seconds there and they didn't know what was going on and I'm not saying that's real information. I just feel like I read that somewhere which is understandable because they're like, oh, our guys are supposed to be on that roof.

What the is this guy doing? We don't want to kill a demolition rancher. His head was popping over with a rifle and they're like, we don't want to kill a local SWAT guy who's supposed to be on that roof. Because again, this is again, this is super early. It's a little too early to give definitive information. But I heard the same thing that I heard that the building that he was on was the staging building and cops poured out of it after shots started getting fired. Yeah. Wait, what? Yeah. Yeah.

I did not know that. That's what I was told. And again, this is all like I could be spreading misinformation, but that's what I heard. Do your research. We should start with that. We'll start with that. Actually, Dave just put a clip in there. Do your research before going into this. We're idiots. We're drinking. We started drinking at 12 today. That journalist over there knows the process of getting that information. Yeah. Marty's like, I've got this on lockdown. But it's understanding each part of this process is fine.

Difficult. We are just going off of the seat of our pants right now of what we've know. We do know the FBI or sorry, Secret Service Agency was the one that said it was too slanty. It was the director of the CIA said that. No, sorry, sorry, Secret Service, Secret Service, excuse me. But like I said, the roof was too, the...

FBI? Wait, the Secret Service? The Secret Service was the director, right? Came out today. Yeah. Was it yesterday? I think it was yesterday. But yeah, the director of the Secret Service. Yeah. The rooftop was too slanted. And everybody just kept sharing the screenshots of the slanted roofs that the actual counter snipers were on. Like how? What? It is amazing.

I know when I got it, I had people like, oh, this team stays or whatever. I got text. I was like, that shot's at minimum 100 yards because you're not getting that close. I was like, at minimum 100 yards. But how the is that a thing? I thought it was going to be even further. But then it's like 150. 100 yards is not far away. No, no. That's basic training. That's the shots. Usually for basic, you have to shoot 40 targets. You get three pop-ups at 300 yards. 100 yards is just one throw by Peyton Manning.

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That's a really long thing. Dude had a cannon on him. What can I say, man? Well, another thing that hasn't been confirmed yet, but they were saying that the guy was lining up a shot and then police officers climbed up the ladder and saw him and he turned around and pointed his rifle at the police officers and then the police officers went back down the ladder because they're like, oh shit, there's a guy with a rifle and then he turned around and started shooting so he didn't have his shot completely lined up and that's why he missed so many times.

Which also, yeah, it's not confirmed. But it's still a Dak play. That in my head makes sense of a cop popping up and be like, oh, and the guy like points gun, cop goes like this. He just turns, fires off rounds.

And then misses by him turning. It just, everything miraculously aligned for that one moment to him. Cause that, that you've seen the overhead shot, right? I know we've shared it in the groups. It's a line of, if he just was looking straight, it would be his ear head or his head versus that turn is the only reason that round missed. And that's absolutely insane. Wild. Especially on a red off piece of shit gun. Like,

Insane. Don't pour shame. Don't pour shame. It was crazy. It's just an absolute insane experience. And it didn't register until I started watching. The next day, it really registered of how crazy that event was. Because in my head...

I'm retarded. So I was like, oh man, that's a meme. And it was just like everything a meme because the social media, how he was like, ah, fresh up. It certainly was crazy and I don't want to detract from like how terrible it is for anybody to be thinking of even doing that to a political official.

But I think we come from a generation that we've lived our entire lives where that has never been something we thought about. But when you look at the rate of attempted or successful assassinations before this, it was every...

15 to 20 years this was something that was happening because you would have now there is attempted and then there is people they stopped it they seem like a background i know obama had like three uh george bush had those were threats but like gerald ford after kennedy went through two attempted assassinations uh one of them

cult member, part of the Manson family, a crazy person. And, uh, and, uh, that attack was stopped by a former Marine Vietnam veteran named Oliver Sipple. Oliver Sipple saw, uh, uh, her name was, uh, Froman kinky Fromans. No, uh,

Something from Wigley from one of those weird Manson family names. He saw her present the gun. He grabbed the gun away from her and saved the president's life, basically. And Oliver Sipple at that time was like a closeted gay guy. And Harvey Milk, who was the first publicly elected gay official. Harvey Milk really.

him over big time and basically like because he was so obsessed with like

saying a gay guy saved the president's life. He outed Oliver Sipple and it just created chaos in Oliver Sipple's life because he wasn't openly out. His mother kind of disowned him. He died sadly in the 80s from diabetes. He just had kind of a sad ending to his life because Harvey Milk wanted to make a point out of him. In a good way, he meant well, but Sipple's just like, bro, no more.

I'm not gay. Dude, I'm from Alabama, dude. This isn't going to fly well with my family. It's the key in Pillskit where it keeps talking about the gay community and it cuts to the guy that's just like, what the hell? He's like, what? Anytime they say gay, the camera cuts to a key, I think. Yeah. What? Yeah. And then he's like moving out of the way and the camera refines him.

And then the last attempt after that was a crazy person. Like we said, he was a guy that was a little obsessed with a little too much obsessed with catcher in the rye. Like the guy who shot Lennon, Mark David Chapman. And he thought Jodie Foster was his girlfriend. And, you know, she said one negative thing about the president of the United States. And we thought, no, I will say this. Just treat everything. If I have this face go in depth because I, I have no idea on any of this. And I'm sure 90% of you are like, how?

John Hinckley, the guy who shot Ronald Reagan when he was in office, was legitimately like that was his thing. He wanted to impress the actress Jodie Foster. That wasn't just a random attack on Jodie Foster. She just said, she's like, I don't like Reagan. So he's like, I don't like him either now. I love Jodie Foster.

The original simp. Yeah. Which, you know, he's out of prison now, and he's making bluegrass music. Yeah, he got released like, what, two, three years ago? He's got a YouTube channel. Yeah. I want to get him on the channel because I want to do the recreation of the Reagan shooting because I have the gun. We're going to have him on the podcast and that. Where do you have the gun? I don't have the exact gun, but I have the exact same model. Really? Yeah, I bought it specifically to do a recreation because the Reagan shooting is an interesting one to me.

Color me impressed that he made it out. Period.

like alive and then out of jail after trying to assassinate. Oh, he got dog piled in. Oh, yeah. It's a shitty little 22 LR revolver. You want to know one of the most wholesome stories from the Reagan attempt was people forget he almost died. And there was actually a crisis happening at the White House because the George H.W. Bush was like overseas or gone or something like that. There was some sort of like a session succession crisis happening where the

uh speaker of the house at the time basically claimed that he was in charge that's a whole different thing but reagan's like reagan came extremely close to dying people have no idea and he's getting operated on these doctors and i think it was in georgetown there yeah and reagan looks up to the doctor he's like are you are you a republican or democrat and the doctor says

Sir, everybody today is a Republican. Just a wholesome 80s story. If that was said now on X or anything like that, nobody would believe it. Yeah, take Tom Pant and shoot him in the head.

Yeah, because I think that was the original quote. Something along the lines. It might have been that or it might have been the one I heard was, well, before he goes on. Oh, I hope you voted for me. You're right. I hope you're all Republicans. Yeah, yeah. That's what he said. Yeah. And then the one before that, I think before he got operated on, he was talking to his wife, Nancy Reagan. He said something along the lines of, not paraphrasing, but he's like, Nancy, I should have ducked.

Yeah. The guy was a one liner machine, even while currently shot. And then a couple of years later, he's given a speech in Berlin and a balloon popped and he, he just stops his speech speech and goes, you missed me. Yeah. Yeah. Reagan was a, he was a, the lovable grandfather of the country. Yeah. Yeah.

The great communicator. Introduced crack to the inner city. All that stuff. Oh, yeah. Just a real hero. Jack's like, here's his positives. Also, here is all the negatives that this dude did. God, that reminds me of this, Jack. I had to show you. It's Ronald Reagan with black communities. She needed this crack. It's a chiropractor.

And so, okay, wait, go back. So this dude, I just want to know his mindset. He's on crazy meds right now, I'm assuming. Who? The guy that tried to assassinate him. I don't know because he's been in prison since it happened. So, I mean, that's been decades. They have to have a regiment for him to get out and then like... Because, I mean, he did kill a man. He killed the secret service agent. I believe it was... Well...

It was one of the Secret Service guys? James Brady was press secretary something. He got paralyzed because it hit him in the head. He was paralyzed. Because they named it, I believe it was the 1994 Brady Bill after him. It basically set up our current system for NICS background checks and everything for purchasing a firearm. No shit. So, okay.

I'm more surprised that he's out than did he plead crazy. How do you go into trial with that dude and not give a life sentence? Hey, your honor, my client is just in love with Jodie Foster. You can't really blame him. I wouldn't start an assassination defense with, you can't really blame the guy.

Jody Foster doesn't like Reagan. My client loves Jody Foster. You don't understand this, Your Honor? It's weird you're not a lawyer. A squared plus B squared equals C squared. I don't know what to tell you, brother. You call her a hot dog loving whore? A hot dog strutting floozy, man.

My client pleads. He was just a little silly that day. He's just a silly goose. He's just a silly goose, dude. I'm sorry. The flow of the show was interrupted by Jack's bladder. Thank you, Jack. Yeah, I got an old man pee-pee bladder. Thank you for that. And this is Marty. Marty, say hi. You got to say hi to him. Hi. I'm here for a talk about dead presidents and other things. That's how we're going to intro the show. Some of them survived.

I mean, none of them actually are still alive. Oh, that's true. Jay and Lincoln were the most interesting parts of the story for me. The thing about Lincoln's son? Are you kidding me? Yeah, there's even more layers to it. Wait, what was the most... Just wait until you find out about Robert Kennedy. Wait...

God damn it. What was the most fun? Okay, you said there's more to it. Name two other situations with Lincoln's son that you're like, wow, that's... He's just a bad luck man. Well, when his mother was already prone to psychological situations, she...

By the time so he outlived both all three of his younger brothers. He outlived all of them One of them died in the white while Lincoln was president So Robert Todd Lincoln out survived all of his younger brothers by the time By the time his dad was shot and so his mother was she cracked by the time Lincoln was killed and by 18 and by the early 1870s

he had to institutionalize her because she was pure nuts. Besides that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? Exactly. But what would you give it on Rotten Tomatoes? Audience score was not high. She splattered with blood. Everyone's a critic. Tough audience. Can you imagine that being the freaking state? Tough but not bulletproof. Yeah.

Again, another Secret Service failure.

Yeah, but he was a lawyer, very astute lawyer, very accomplished lawyer. He was taking care of her finances. He had his mother's best interest in his heart. But she escaped the loony bin and then started running editorials, running stuff on newspapers, just basically talking shit about him when all he was trying to do was help his mom out. This was the original Free Britney? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. And holy shit. Okay. Wait. Also, his oldest son, his oldest son, who was named Abraham, died while he was serving as the U.S. ambassador to the UK. How did he die? It was like one of the common diseases. Don't eat the fish and chips. Yeah.

So he just had very bad luck. He was a bad luck charm. And then at the dedication of the Lincoln Memorial, I think it was 1921, 80-year-old Robert Todd Lincoln was there with former President Howard Taft and current President, I think it was Wilson.

um and um miraculously both of them survived unfortunately yeah yeah woodrow wilson was a piece he's arguably the bit now uh take his presidency out right if you're looking just as a person he's arguably the biggest piece of shit we've ever had as president oh i was including his presidency yeah income tax the federal reserve like that guy was a

The League of Nations, the original. Oh, yeah. No, he'd like talk about a globalist piece of shit. But anyway, sorry. Yeah, he was. He was the most racist president we've ever had. He used to do screenings like every week of the birth of a nation, which, by the way, like even by the standards of the day, the critics were like, this is kind of racist.

And he loved that shit. It basically is just like a founding of the Klan. Yeah, it was a glorification of the Klan. So by the standards of the day, most people were like, this isn't a good movie. Which, although I will say, I went back and watched that movie just like for history's sake. Yeah. It wasn't as bad as I thought. I thought it was going to be way worse just the way it was hyped up. Like, it's still something that like,

I mean, if the president says that that's his favorite movie, that's a black flag. If it's bad, though, for that standard, because back in the day, when was this filmed? Birth of a Nation, I think, was the late... 19-teens? Teens, yeah. So in the teens, they were highly restricted on... If you look at it today and you're like, oh, it was kind of bad, holy shit. Because I remember...

The radio sequence that played over for the World of Wars. That caused mass hysteria. People lost their shit. That movie, when you say in 20... Especially the shit we all watch. If you watch The Aviator where he's trying to pitch it to the MPAA back in the day, trying to argue for why he should be allowed to show cleavage in a movie. That's the MPAA. Read the first edition of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

Oh yeah, the Oompa Loompas were basically like, is this a metaphor for how much Roald Dahl hates Africans? Their skin wasn't orange in the first edition. And he didn't skip around the term du jour. For not qualified to use that one. Damn. What a great movie. We're going to have to change that. That

Again, child's movie. We love it. Yeah, you could have just called him Jim. We talked about that the other day. It's like, why don't they just call him Jim? Do you know the story? The qualifiers are unnecessary. They filmed Principal in Germany for that movie.

Do you, they couldn't, and so all the Oompa Loompas they had to hire from like Britain and France and the United States and stuff. Do you know why they couldn't hire any German to play Oompa Loompas?

There weren't any. Because Hitler had eradicated the little people population of Germany, they couldn't get any local talent because Hitler had basically eradicated little people 40, 30, 40 years before that. There's like an 80-year-old midget sitting in an attic somewhere like, well, fool me once. I ain't coming down for this shit.

Oh, yeah, sure. You want to put me in a chocolate factory? I heard that one before. I'm not getting in that chocolate train. You're going to sell me down that chocolate river.

Holy shit. It's just like you hear about some of these guys that didn't know that... Was it Vietnam or China? No, Japan. Japan. Didn't know that Japan surrendered. The last one was in like 1968. Yeah. We've talked about it. Dude, we've talked about it a couple of times. It's a weird story. They were sending his family and like, you turned him. You turned. Like, she is...

She's now on the imperial side or not the imperial, but American side and everything. And at that point it would just be modern Japanese. Like the, the war was well over the hatchet was buried. Yeah. They were already into fricking hello kitty and baseball at that point. And anime was anime. God, they used to be a proper country. No. Do you want to introduce our guests? By the way, I feel like we just kind of like shoved him in the middle of the podcast. Sir boy, Marty Scoville. And we've known each other. Damn. I'm in it now. Yeah. Going back.

at least to like, I don't know if it's late art 15 days or early black rifle days. Yeah. Somewhere in there. 20. Dude, it has been both of you have something big in common. You've both been history channel hosts.

We did. Got something in common with Eli, and I got something in common with Jack. Yeah. Got shot in basic training. I want to lead with that one because these guys have never heard this story, and I've never heard it personally. Because we've heard the story of how you got shot. Yes, but you've got to tell the story about afterwards when you were home on leave. Okay. So, I mean, do you guys want, like, the full, like, front-to-back story? Go for it. Go for it. All right. So, it is the summer of 2005. All right. Speed it up a little.

Oh, come on. I could have started at 1905. This is the precursor to OIF. All right, Tolkien. Spend a fucking hour describing a lake. It's the summer of 2005. I'm in week five of infantry OSIT basic training on Fort Benning. We're on main post on the known distance range, otherwise known as the KD range. Charlie 219, what was your... I was Charlie 254. No, I was Alpha 254 until I got shot, and then I had to go to Charlie 254. But...

So I graduated Charlie 254. So we're out at the range. It's one of those really hot. It's the week of 4th of July. So it's hot as balls on Fort Benning. It's one of those ones where they're having everybody like take their kid off and stuff like that. We're doing the known distance one. It's that thing where they use a pop-up target and everybody's behind the berm and they'll mark the target for you and then put it back up.

You'd think that, oh, Marty got shot because you were behind the berm and everything. Oh, well, for reference on that for people who don't know, in basic training, how far do you have to do? It's like 300 yards? I know on that particular one, we were on the 200-meter line. So I know for that, we were 200 meters. You, as a soldier in basic training for infantry, you have this giant berm, and then it's like you have –

almost like half a steel roll and dirt. It's like the size of this table. You know, it's a big white thing and you, they'll mark it with these plastic markers of where your shots hit.

And you raise it up, you close stuff off, and then pulling butts. Yeah, and then you put it back up, and then you just wait. Boring ass day. Nothing's done other than put holes in the target, cover it up, kick it back up. So I was not behind that burn marking targets, which would be the thing that I think most people would jump to. I was up on the 200-meter line, and we're just sitting there waiting for the targets to be marked. Holy shit, yeah.

I forgot you're out in the open. Yeah, complete wide open. Also on the Katy Range on Main Post Fort Benning, almost every range complex on any military base in the world, they have berms in between the ranges. This one had just a tree line, no berms. Yep. So somebody in the range next door while I'm sitting there on the 200-meter line waiting for my target to be marked while online...

Somebody and I found this out later somebody over there. They're doing the three to five second rushes live fire So apparently what this kid did was he you know did his three to five second rush brought his rifle up squeezed off his rounds and then instead of doing what you're supposed to do, which is put the selector switch back on safe and

go back to the lower ready, and then tukka tukka your next three to five seconds. He did a flip the selector switch to three round burst. Nice. Decided not to remove his finger from the trigger well, kept it on the trigger, and instead of going to the low ready, he daddy shotgunned it and tukka tukka tukka'd, I guess tripped on a root somewhere and squeezed off three rounds. Flashback to Marty at the 200 meter line, standing there waiting for his target to be marked.

Feel something just like slap my shoulder like in a way like you ever felt a slap It also feels like you were penetrated at the same time. Yeah, it's got master Kevin. Yeah So flashbacks, yeah, so it was something like that to where at first it was B to use at the time I like pulled it up and I saw a perfect little hole right there just seeing what it wasn't and at first I'm like, oh spider be something like that and

But my initial thought was I got shot. But immediately it was like, no, Spider-V, something like that. And I sat there and tried to talk myself out of your shot because that's ridiculous. Nobody gets shot in music training. Why is my back wet? Right? Oh, no. And then I pulled it up again to check because I could start to feel my shoulder start to throb a little bit. And now there's like a little perfect little ring of blood. At this point, I...

like look to the drill sergeant his name is drill sergeant mcginnis i hope he sees this he was a 375 ranger i wanted to be a ranger i joined the army with a ranger contract i wanted to be a ranger so bad so i looked up this guy who's also the biggest dick in the world the one person that you didn't want to tell i got shot drill sergeant um i say that i'm like a drill sergeant i think i got shot and he like doesn't even fully turn around he just like turns his head he's like

drink water private like he was like over the day it was hot you know he's a miserable drill sergeant like and i like then listen it is for for the viewers out there for everyone that has not done basic like brandon can tell you this how much fear you have of drill sergeant fear you don't want to

- With these dudes, these are like-- - All these guys were fresh back from OIF-1. This is '05, they're all fresh back from OIF-1. These are like the first combat veterans the Army's had. - What year did you go? - 2005. - Wait, month?

Like the summertime? Oh, shit. Right after high school? No shit. I got out before you went in. Yeah, my basic ended before you got in. Okay, random. Okay, go. You're that much older than me. Jeez. I didn't even know that. I was like, wait, 05? What? Yeah, so I tell him and he tells me to basically shut the fuck up.

up and drink water and then i'm like okay before i argue with the drill start let me like verify here and i like pull up my top up again i look and i'm like okay my shoulder definitely hurts and now there's like a bigger spot of blood at this point like it's a big like it's bleeding and i'm like

Whether I got shot or not, there's a problem. That sounds like it was a piece of glass. Honestly, if you were shot with an AR-15, you would be identified through DNA alone. It sounds like it was staged, really, I think. It's funny. I was actually accused of that later. Are you shitting me? I'm not joking at all. Jesus Christ. So I tell him again, I'm like, Joe Sargent, I really think I got shot. And he looks over his shoulder again and he's like,

Private starts like muttering under his breath, "Fucking privates." Like stomps over, gets to where he can see the blood. He's like, "Holy shit, Private, you did get shot!" It was like he was happy. It was like I brought joy to his day. You're like, "Damn, son, alright!" The first thing, and anybody that's ever been in the military will appreciate, the first thing out of his mouth after like, "Holy shit, you did get shot," was he told me to literally take a knee and drink water.

Like, literally was like, take a knee and drink water. And then got on the phone and I like, did what I told you. I like, took a knee and like, started sipping on my Camelback. They weren't even real Camelbacks. They were the hoses that connected to the canteens at the time. There wasn't actual Camelbacks. And, uh... I like, you were like...

yeah i was just like oh roger roger this is saving my life yeah should i lay down he gets on the radio they got these little walkie talkies he's like hey i just like private school and just got shot and he's like laughing to himself this is hysterical all these other guys fresh back out of oif1 they start doing three to five second pounds over there they all think they're like going through like we're in the shit again there's an active shooter there's like you know something going on here and so they all come here they have all the the

whole rest of the base training company to like get their faces in the dirt and stuff. Everybody else's face is in the dirt looking at me and I'm still on a knee, like up above and real, it's like sipping on my water.

They get over and they start looking at me. They have me take my top off. So like, yeah, I got shot. And they start calling for like medics and all this other stuff. Before the first medic gets there, we had this one guy with us. He was a sergeant. He was a staff sergeant, but he didn't have his like drill sergeant hat yet. I guess he was waiting to go to drill sergeant school. So he didn't, he wasn't like a fully rated drill sergeant yet, but he was there just with, as like an NCO and he could see the bulge. It was a very shallow. It was like as if,

Somebody almost online with me shot. It was a very shallow. Went in. He could see the bulge in my skin from the bullet. He's like, oh, I can see. We could probably get that. He literally took his barber tool out and used it. That's military.

Yeah, I'm not even making this up. This is documented in my medical records. I'm not even making this up. He used it to knead the bullet out towards the hole and then grabbed it out and literally handed it to me. He was like, here, you can give that to your grandkids someday. Do you still have it? Yes. That's rad, dude.

Jesus Christ. It's still in the same little medical container that the surgeon later, who's very upset with this, not drill sergeant. And literally, again, I'm not making this up, before he pulled out his Gerber tool, he was like, don't worry, I'm CLS qualified.

Which stands for combat lifesaver. Again, you can't make this stuff up. Not an actual medic. He went to like six hours of classes. I was a Boy Scout first class and I've got my first aid merit badge. At that point, the first people come up as the range control medics.

which are like these two E4s that have not deployed. They've done nothing but go to their 68th whiskey training. This is terrifying to them because the only thing they have treated in their entire military careers is like... Dehydration. Yeah. They're like, we know how to bring your core temp down, but this is way outside of our... We know how to silver bullet you and that's about it. They just took like a...

like janky ass pressure dressing and slapped it on my shoulder did nothing it was the most janky ass like they didn't know how to put it over a shoulder so that if you moved your arm it would stay in place and and then at that point all the ambulances like these government vehicles all started rolling up they put me in the ambulance and

and brought him to the hospital, and they brought the surgeon out, and he's like, where's the bullet? And I'm like, well, it's right here, sir. What was his reaction from that? He was like, how did you get that? Because he could clearly see, by the way, the bullet wound looked like

the opposite gender's anatomy. I was just a vagina. You can say. Yeah, I was going to say it looked like it was very obvious that something had went where it wasn't supposed to go. And so he was like, OK, how did you get that? Like he was like angry. Like, how did you get that? And I was like, oh, don't worry. My drill sergeant CLS qualified because I thought I didn't know what that. But like I just heard him say that. So I repeated it. And you can imagine like a military surgeon is like a full bird colonel, like military surgeon is just like

So you're meaning to tell me that you're Drill Sergeant. I was like, no, he's not Drill Sergeant. He's like, he's about to be a Drill Sergeant. So he's having a...

I literally got into semantics with him over this. I was like, "No, he's not a drill sergeant yet. Like, he's gonna be though." And the surgeon was like, "Okay, so you're not a drill sergeant performed field surgery on you when we've got Martin Army right here. Like, he performed field surgery on you." And I'm like, "Well, I mean, when you put it that way, it sounds kind of bad, but like, I didn't think it was surgery surgery. I didn't get put under, you know?"

And then he's like, "Okay." And they started looking at it and they're like, "You should probably call your parents." And they're like, "Don't lead with you got shot." And I definitely led with I got shot. Freaked my mom out.

Mom! Private mindset. So this is the part that Jack wanted me to get into. So first of all, this is week five. This is two days before we're going to qualify on our rifles. That's a big gate in basic training. Like if you don't qualify and something happens, like you get hurt like this, you will be a day one recycle. Whereas if you're qualified, you'll be reinserted with a different company at like week six or whatever, like post-qualification. It's week five. When is...

Yeah, it's early like that. Yeah, like week five, week six. Damn, I thought it was week three. It's like a save checkpoint, essentially. Yeah, you start shooting in week three. It's a different vlog. It's a quick save. Yeah. You didn't do the live fire portion. I'm doing it for the virgins. The two-way range, I had to... But the... So we...

decide that I need to go home on con leave, which is like 30 days to let it heal up. I go and qualify. It took me four or five tries, but I did qualify with my dominant right-hand shooter.

So I had to shoot left-handed, right eye. And it took me four or five times, but I did, yeah, I did qualify just so I didn't have to be a day one recycle. Went home and was probably one of the greatest 30 days of my life because I didn't think that I was going to get a chance to have that summer after my senior year or anything like that. But now I'm coming home like basically a war hero. For small town South Dakota, this is basically a war hero. Yeah.

Yeah, basically. It's like what we do with Brandon, but Brandon gets two. Yeah. And I'm going to quit this podcast at some point.

So he, uh, I go home and there's like one night we, you know, just get real drunk and somebody asked, I say something about getting like, somebody's asking about what basic training is like. I'm like, Oh, you just get smoked a lot. And, and they're like, what's getting smoked like? And I was like, let me show you. I've got a fresh, I've got a bandage on my shoulder. It's still like pussing and bleeding every day. The bandage, I have to go to the ER every two days to get the bandage switched out. I'm like, let me show you what it's like to get smoked a

Apparently, I don't particularly remember this, but I kind of remember that it happened. But I don't remember how long. Apparently, for about a half an hour, I did mountain climbers, push-ups, flutter kicks, smoked myself. You were showing how cool you were. Oh, 100%. It was that basic training. Dude, I came home and I stood at parade rest ordering McDonald's, bro.

Oh, I hate how accurate these statements are. Dude, you are the gayest human when you get back from bed. You're like, I'm an army in one. Now you just throw in that you got shot. Dude, your ego is out of control at that point.

And anyways, I had to go back. By the enemy? Well, I mean, like, I don't like them. Yeah. Like, have you ever seen Full Metal Jacket? It might as well be the enemy. Like, so I had to go into the ER the next day and they had to swap it out. I woke up hungover with my entire shirt drenched in blood. It was bad. They had to, like, take me into the ER and get me. The doctor was like, wait a second, you got a gunshot wound and you were doing what?

Anyways, that was my base training experience. I came back, reinserted with Charlie254, did fine, went to airborne school, got food poisoning on the second day of airborne school, had to recycle that. Then I went to Ranger Indoctrination Program and fell off the fast rope tower two days before graduation. Wait, so everything you had to recycle through? RIP even. That's what you had in common with Jack. Now we know what you got in common with Cody. And then my first week in battalion, I caught one of my friend's trigger finger off in a striker. You did.

What finger off on accident? Hold the fuck. Okay, wait. Okay. So rewind. Okay. So rip, this is rip. I don't know what it's called now. Oh, RAS Ranger assessment. Yeah. So rip is five weeks. That's time is four, four weeks long and it just sucks. Yeah. It was just get your nuts kicked in for four weeks. Yeah.

And you, did you, you fell, so you had to recycle that? No, I didn't recycle. So, it was a similar deal as basic training. Similar deal as basic training. They're like, hey, I literally fell 35 feet because it was on the Chinook side of the fast rope tower. So, you have to reach out further to get to the rope and

Basically the guy that went down in front of me the rope caught between his canteen and his self and he took the rope with him so when I was rotating out I had nothing for my feet to get onto your feet burn on the rope for about or sorry your hands burn for about five feet and then you just naturally let go. So I fell about 35 feet, bounced off the P-rock, cracked a couple of ribs and then had a spiral fracture up like my tibia or something something in my leg there.

And similar deal, that was my fourth rope. I had to do one more to graduate in two days, get my tan brain, go to battalion, or go to medical, heal up for a couple months, and then come back and do it all again. I already kind of felt like I got lucky up to this point. I felt kind of like if somebody takes too close a look at me, they're just going to say, you don't pass. I was not exactly future Delta Force commando. Okay, nice guy.

Probably not like the guy that you're picking on your A-team for taking down a building, okay? So just want to be transparent there. So I felt like I'm already sneaking through as it is. Maybe I should just get back up that tower and do that one last stroke, get my Tanbray and go try to prove myself, and so I did. Jesus. And that's actually how I ended up at First Ranger Battalion because the cadre saw that and were like, oh, I respect that, and I got to go to the battalion everybody wants to go to. Cody's over here like, I want to play Skyrim. LAUGHTER

I mean, fair. I fell off a rope at Bud's and hurt my back and just decided to go home and play Elder Scrolls Skyrim because it was 11-11-11 when that game came out. And I was like, eh, this sucks. Had you been shot in basic training and had a sufficient amount of shame built up? I didn't get shot, no. Dude, you went up, you spiral, broke a couple ribs and were like, on your femur.

I had a spiral fracture up my tibia, the lower part of the leg, and then three hairline cracks in the ribs. So it was hard to breathe. Not super comfortable to walk. And just went up and got it done.

Yeah, they all let me go up. It was a gimme. They're like, you just got to go up and slide down the rope. That's it. You don't have to do it with equipment on. You got to do five ropes to graduate. That's pretty cool, though. Yeah, the fifth rope is supposed to be full combat equipment. You're all going out at once. They let me just go up and go get your fifth rope. If you're willing to do it, go up there and just knock it out. And then they put you at binning for your duty station? No, I went to Savannah, Georgia. Oh, good, good, good. Okay.

Yeah, I got hooked up. I got hooked up. So Ranger Bat you can go to was at third – wait, first? Yeah, first is in Savannah, Georgia, which is an awesome place to go to. Third Battalion is at Fort Benning. The worst duty station. It was not great, especially if you come in as infantry. You've spent all of your time there. Like you want to get the fuck out of there so bad. And then second bat's out in Portland, I think. Fort Lewis, Washington. I think it's Portland. Yeah, Portland. Okay, we're going with Portland.

We'll just go Portland. They call them the Antifa Battalion. Holy shit. You went through so much just to... Yeah. I thought I was screwed going on my first... So I get to battalion, my first deployment to Iraq is six weeks later, and I'm like, there's no way I'm making it through this thing. Like, no way. I went through five to three deployments to Iraq, two to Afghanistan.

Totally fine. Not a scratch. Not a scratch. Generally speaking. Generally speaking, yeah. Nothing major. Nothing major. Nothing external. No. Yeah. Just the PTSD that lives with him forever. Yeah. I smashed my finger once. Oh, wait. Rewind. You cut off somebody's finger. You cut off somebody's finger.

- You trigger finger? - Yeah, so my first week in battalion, 'cause we're getting where you're doing those final validations before you go on deployment, right? It's like you do this week and then you go on leave and then you come back, calicize and go to war, right? And so this week was all about just, we were gonna be doing, we knew going in, we were gonna be doing a lot of mobility stuff, a lot of things based off vehicles. So I was like, let's go out and run some striker things. As one of the new guys, you're like, okay, you're gonna be on the gun a lot or you're gonna be driving a lot. So I had to do that.

I was in the driver's seat, this is the first time I've ever driven it, and we're doing recovery drills trying to use the winch to pull another striker out of a ditch at Fort Stewart. And basically the way this works is there's somebody outside on the winch that gives directions to the vehicle commander up top that can visually see that person, and then the vehicle commander radios into the driver who can't see shit when to winch in, winch out. So I as the driver am controlling the winch.

I hear we're doing this and I hear winch in, I winch in, and then I hear screaming and then I hear, oh my god, stop winching, winch out, winch out, winch out. I'm like, ah, I winched out. I come out and a guy that I showed up to, that we both came to battalion about the same time, we're friends, he was missing a finger. Not the whole thing, just... The important part. Got it. Yep.

The part that you need to be an army ranger. Yeah. I was literally just like sitting there miming and I'm like, I can pull a trigger with like that. Like, yeah, it's gone. Yeah. So Jesus, it was about halfway up the finger. Yeah. Something like that.

So what happened other than the... It was a little bit of everybody's fault, right? So... The guy that lost his finger, I think his hand was probably a little bit too close to the winch for winching. And I'm not clear whether he said winch in when he should have said winch out or vice versa. Or if the VC, the vehicle commander... There was a miscommunication somewhere along the way. And there was also a finger probably...

Too close to the winch. What we have here is failure to communicate. Yeah, so... Yeah, that was kind of my first year in the military.

Pretty normal. You got shot and you cut a guy's finger off. And you fell off a tower, broke ribs and spine, and then told to go up, do it again. Wait, what happened in Airborne Coast? Oh, food poisoning. Yeah, I threw up. You know that place with all the P-Rock where they just have you do PLS all the time? I threw up all over that. I don't know how they cleaned that up. It was so bad. It was so bad. It was like that scene from Sandlot. What the fuck? Holy shit.

God damn. I would have quit so many times in that section. This sucks, Dave. This is God telling me. Not my thing. Not my cup of tea. Just like you when you were doing the...

the skydiving shit. Yeah. Where like you're, you, you slept through your alarm and everything. And you're like, this is too many signs. I'm good. And I still was like, let's go. Cause what was, what, what all happened there? I forgot. It was, so we had a free fall. It was okay. Hey, you have your first jump is tomorrow morning. So you're going to do your one, um,

A person attached. God damn it. Tandem. Tandem. You're going to do one tandem and you're free fall. So one tandem, free fall. I'm like, okay, okay, okay. I suck at the tunnel. I blow dick at the tunnel. I barely can float now. So I was like, I'll go to bed. I'll plug in my phone. I'll make sure everything ready, set alarm. And then I'll wake up and just crush the day. I plug in. Phone is charging. Put it down. I wake up in the middle of the night. I'm like, I was like,

Oh, it's probably a super early. I need to, I'll go back to sleep. I checked my phone almost dead. Like it is. And I'm like, unplug, plug, plug. I was like, it was charging last night. What the no phone was dead. Thank you. Brain phone was dead. Yeah. Cause I went to click it and I was like, why is it off? Like turning the phone on and off. I was like, what the it was plugged in. I was making sure it was charged last night as like it's in plugged into the wall. I unplug it, plug it back in. The cord died in the middle of the night. So I was like, Oh,

Am I? Oh, should I jump today? I feel like I should not jump. I'm going to jump anyways. But if I die, this is this is my sign. I completely ignore. Yeah. Yeah.

That was the exact same thing that happened to me when I was doing the jump school down at Plaka just two months ago. It was my last jump. I don't know why I got in my own head because after my first, I didn't give a fuck. I'd already done tandem a year before. I really didn't care. I was just like, okay, I got to do this, get the cert. To me, it was just business. My last jump, I am in a Cessna sitting there with a static line attached,

talking to myself about like, you know, now would be a good time to make peace with God.

and i got in my head about that for no reason i'm literally having an argument in my own head i'm like no why the are we even thinking about this right like like we're good we're good but if it was gonna happen why are we here why are we do and you start double like yeah and it was that thought it's like well you're gonna regret it if you don't like that sort of shit i'm like oh god like why why am i getting in my own i don't i haven't cared up until now but now it's my last job it's like oh well here it goes and then that that jump was when my

That was one of the ones where my shoe got tangled. And then you start doing the opening kick. Yeah, I'm like, oh, fuck. Opening kick, opening kick, opening kick. And then you find out it's a normal thing. Yeah. They tangle a lot and you're like, ah. It happened, I think, two out of my five jumps. Yeah, that sounds about right. And it's not as terrifying as in your head. So when you're landing, they can't teach you how to land other than PLF. Yep.

But past that, they can't teach you how to flare or when to flare. They can tell you visually. You see, you don't want to flare too early, otherwise the chute will stall and you will just die. Or you'll hit the ground. Or there's static line where you just don't get to flare. Yeah, you just... You hit the earth as a wand dart at 18 feet per second. It just happens. Which is terrifying when they say it like that. You're like, you're hitting the ground about, I don't know, like 20 miles an hour. You're like, hmm. Yeah.

No. What? I have to just land like that? Like, yeah, you'll be fine. Think about it as like a fender bend. It's like, oh, okay. Five times in a row. Cool. But you'll feel real cool afterwards. And then you didn't even get to use it. Yeah, I didn't even get to go to Normandy. It was amazing, Brandon. You missed out on so much awesome stuff. I ate oysters on a houseboat for three days straight. I was so jealous. Did I ever tell you what happened with that? Oh.

I found out two days that you couldn't make it. No. I should have had to do with the campaign. No, no. I paid $1,500 to have my passport expedited as fast as possible. I got my passport in the day you guys got back. Holy shit. I was so pissed. I would rather they just lose it in the mail or something. But the day you guys were getting back, I got my passport. And I'm like, you...

I went to jump school. I did everything. But that was that looked like like genuinely looked like a amazing time. It was great. I did not. And Marty's done that trip more times than I have. Seventy fourth and seventy fifth. Yeah. The 80th is like a once in a lifetime opportunity. Those French people are the most patriotic people I've ever seen. Who was just on talking about that?

Yeah, it was Jack Carr. Jack Carr said that was one of the most... It's where he was like, man, we're f***ing up our young generation because the level of...

enthusiasm and respect for that world war ii community and those soldiers like them putting on the parades bro next i escorted two veterans with my dear friend tracy hunter who runs beyond the call can i give tracy a shout out runs a great organization called be on the call uh she basically just takes world war ii veterans out and takes them back to battlefields um

She does a lot, but I was driving around two World War II veterans all day, Al Shapling and Don Graves. I've been around what would be considered A-listers. I've been around celebrities before.

I have never seen anything in my life like what I saw escorting those World War II veterans around. It was like moving the Beatles around, dude. People were mobbing our cars. People were handing babies to them. Kevin had to get out of the vehicle and literally like, get away, we're moving, so I could drive through this mob. They were trying to get to these guys like they were the Beatles. It was bonkers. I've never seen anything like it.

That's insanity. Oh, America, please. Why do you sound Japanese? Oh. I was just trying to. He's got one accent. I know. He's always Asian. I was just trying to do. I know. I was trying to do French racism, not Japanese racism. Be a French person. I'm so French. Let's go to the Eiffel Tower.

That's crazy. It was nuts. It was just an experience. I've never seen anything like it. Was it the same for when you were there? So I wasn't escorting World War II vets, so I didn't have that exact level, but I was definitely probably one of the people mobbing them, probably. I mean, it was cool. And what was really cool for me when I saw 74th and 75th was you would see, even all these years later, these World War II vets link up with people that they hadn't seen since the war.

And there was one particular group, these two people, a French resistance fighter, a female French resistance fighter, an American GI that basically had like a romance there and then just part ways. That's a very common story. And then they met each other again. And it was not by accident. Somebody over there figured it out and figured he was still alive and all this other stuff and organized this. But they met for the first time. Which was really awkward for both of their spouses. Yeah. I don't know.

- And you say that as a joke, I wanna say that they both married but both had lost their spouses already. - Oh, well. - 'Cause you know, they were very advanced age. - Aw, I see you being more romantic. - And so, yeah, man, like, it just, it was like one of those things where like, you just, what other circumstance in life where you see something like that happen? One of the other really cool things too is the Ranger Regiment goes out and reenacts the climbing of Pointe du Hoc. - That's really cool.

They brought two or three rangers out that climbed Pointe du Hoc and sat them at the top of the cliffs. So these guys are climbing up in period World War II uniforms. And greeted with the guys who were there at the top. I get chills right now. When you see those beaches, when you see Pointe du Hoc, when you go into St. Marie-Auglie, when you're there...

every every movie band of brothers say everything you've ever watched or read on it all instantly gets put into perspective like you literally can see everything that happened like instantly to that's it's incredibly moving that's one thing i'll say if you ever get the chance whether it's for a big anniversary like the 80th or otherwise like

go over there one of the years for the anniversary like it's worth your time dude the gang does the gang does yeah 81st no i i would if they drop people i'll jump the gang does i've got cody

Northern France is awesome. The people are great up there. It's just a great vibe. These towns are so beautiful. It's just all a bunch of small little towns. All the people are great. So here's something that I was told, and I was almost shocked.

certain it was bullshit when I was told it, but I was just going to go along with it anyway. I was told that the process of landing in Paris, renting a car and going to Normandy as somebody who is an American, has only driven on American roads and only speaks English...

Is it easy? It's not bad at all. I've done it multiple times. It was something that I didn't want to be unprepared, so naturally I'm skeptical. Driving through Paris sucks. Yeah. But once you're out of Paris, it's gravy. And driving through Paris is no different than I would say driving through Boston. It's any other city you've ever driven in where it's like the roads were not built for cars. It's any city like that. The only thing that sucks, if you fly into Paris and then drive up to Normandy, the only part that sucks about that is trying to navigate.

Charles de Gaulle Airport. That is the worst airport on the planet. It is so weird to get out. It is so bad. You're going to have to make a couple practice turns around the airport before you get out. Yeah. It is bad. Have a map ahead of time. Yeah. Figure it out. Never mind driving. Just getting out of the airport to your rental car. Like, it's insane.

Pro tips here. We like it. We're doing it. Cody's jumping out. One of you guys are coming with us. Cody, it's bad or you have to do the beach and we get to shoot at you. I really would like to do that. It's worth it. One of my favorite things about interviewing, I've had the pleasure and honor of interviewing these World War II veterans the last few years. Do you know, side note, Don Graves will be here on Sunday.

Yes. Artie, yes. Can we? I can hit up Tracy. You want to do a podcast with Don Graves? Dude, dude. Okay. Would love to. I'll hit up Tracy after the show. I would love you. Yeah. Don't let me leave here without hitting Tracy up.

uh don graves is a i i interviewed him sean ryan interviewed him that dude's a freaking personality dude um anyways you know i love about these guys the most is i hate how they're treated as ornaments and paraded around like this noble super great generation that was perfect like these guys were animal every single one of these guys i talked they've all outlived their wives by like 10 years

every single not every single one but most of these guys i've talked to when i've been interviewing them they by the way they bring it up not me they just start talking all they end up talking about is all the they got in europe they always they always go back to they remember these girlfriends they had 80 years later like my wife said i'm i'm thinking about this french brood i used to bang man yeah okay so we're all gonna do that that will be an unsub thing of

All day. Okay, before we close out, you just wrote a book, didn't you? Yeah. Joe Kent and I. Dave, Photoshop it right here for three seconds. I'm looking at Dave right now. Dave is literally in the building. Dave showed up. We were talking about you earlier, so you're going to have a whole segment about that, bro.

Talk about your weird foot thing. Yeah. That foot thing's crazy. You just wrote a book, though. Yeah, yeah. So Joe Kent and I just recently published a book about his late wife, Senior Chief Petty Officer Shannon Kent. She was an incredible person, came into the Navy in 2003 as a cryptological technician, spoke a

you know ended up speaking five different languages multiple dialects uh went directly into special operations she was the first woman to go through the navy's direct support course for navy seals and um and then went on to

Higher levels of special operations later in her career, where she ultimately met her husband, Joe Kent, who's an Army Ranger, Green Beret. They both served in a classified special operations unit together, where Shan was ultimately killed while hunting down the leaders of ISIS in 2019. Incredible person, ran marathons, spoke all these different languages, was the mother of two young boys. Cancer survivor. I loved your book, and the...

She not only spoke Arabic very well, she could do the dialects. She could go to Syria and speak it in their dialect and then go to Egypt and speak it in their dialect. Her first deployment, she would be in these conversations with the Iraqi counterterrorism, what is now called the Iraqi counterterrorism service,

who draws you know their soldiers from all over iraq all that you know you might have a kurdish guy and i mean like all the different uh tribes out there and in the same conversation she would fluently switch from dialect to dialect just as we are all talking amongst ourselves here i mean just really incredible person well i can speak louisiana whenever i want marty scoville jr

No, it was crazy. Who's the picklewood? Who's the picklewood downtown? Who's the picklewood downtown? You want to treat her like that? No, no, I never said that. You want to treat her like a white folk? No, no. So I don't know if he wants his name said, but a friend of mine actually deployed to the Middle East with Sebastian Gorka.

And Gorka was his like, I don't know if he was a Terp, but he basically he said that the guy was so well read on like all the different histories all throughout that region that like he knows like, well, you know, if you want to talk to this tribe, you need to tell them about X, Y and Z that you're doing with these people, because 450 years ago, there was a.

Three-month war fought over a goat, blah, blah, blah. Like, he just knew all the details of the region, like, to an intricate detail. Yeah. And stuff like that you can't put a price on. No. I mean, Shannon, in her off time when she wasn't deployed, would be watching, like, Arabic television, Arabic movies, listening. Her workout playlists were in Arabic. And that wasn't even the only language she spoke. Yeah.

She spoke other languages on top of that. She did some stuff in Africa that we briefly touch on in the book. And then with her cancer, she...

was supposed to get out and then... Well, she was trying to, you know, her and Joe started having kids, raising a family. Like, we can't both keep deploying. Joe was transitioning. He was about to retire from the military and go into the CIA as a paramilitary operations officer. And so it was like, you know, we can't both keep doing this plus raise a family and everything. So Shannon wanted to. She'd already gotten her bachelor's and her master's degree on active duty while serving in a special missions unit while deploying. Like...

got all those things and she's like you know what I'm just going to go ahead and get my doctorate the Navy's got a PhD program where you can be an active duty Navy psychologist still working soft as a psychologist help out with this at the time was this emerging veteran mental health epidemic and go do that so she went and she smoked the board she was accepted into the PhD program some other side of that some people are just

built different yeah she i mean she was i mean that's why she's got a whole book written about her right like she was not the average person at all um the other piece of that though is you had to be accepted into a phd program and you had to be accepted as a officer in the united states navy and under naval accessions for officers not retained but for assessing like as if you were straight off the street because she had cancer for like a day she had cut out and was right back to work

but because there's cancer in her medical jacket, they came back after she's accepted into the PhD program and said, no, actually you can't do this because we're not going to let you be a naval officer. Holy shit, yeah. This is incredible. What she did next, just to do that. Real quick before we get too far, what's the book called? Send Me the True Story of a Mother at War. Beautiful. Yeah, and I wish I had it right here to hold it, but I'm trusting Dave to do his magic.

Maybe even throw a link in the description. Is it on Amazon? It's on everywhere books are sold. Beautiful. This is major. It's on audiobook. You can listen to my beautiful voice for about eight and a half hours on the audiobook if you want. How'd she get instilled for the PhD or to get the doctorate? Didn't she do something with con or like? So she never ended up getting the PhD, but she, you know, like in the military, you just figure there's a waiver for everything.

Right? She tried to go to that. She went as high as she could in the Navy to the point where she got to some admiral that's like, look, if you want to change the medical regulation for a session in the United States of America, you're going to need to go to Congress. She's like, I guess I'll go to Congress.

Congress then and literally like we put this in the book. She's like I'm gonna just put on my best pantsuit and her and Joe went to Capitol Hill started knocking on doors Which is where Joe was gonna spend the next at least two years He is hot on it. Everybody should definitely go check out Joe's campaign Joe's fantastic we we knew a lot of the same people while we were running and Joe is a guy that like I'm privileged to endorse like he's he was an awesome, dude, I I'm

I'm looking forward to hopefully seeing him do some good stuff. Yeah, he's... There's very few people I think care more about this country than Joe does. I've been privileged to get to know him a lot over the past five years working on this book and telling his hero wife story, but...

Yeah, she was ultimately not during her lifetime when she see that regulation changed, but immediately after her death. The Navy said, you know what, she wouldn't have even been in Syria if we just let her be a naval officer. And so they changed that. There are now officers in the United States Navy, commissioned officers, because Shann Kent fought that fight. And then the regulation was ultimately changed after her death.

And there's a whole effort now to name a whole ship after her. That'd be badass. You know, I don't know if there's like, you know, I want you to unsubscribe. What's the name for the community? The Demolition. If there's a... Go buy the autistic fucks out there. The weaponized autism. Yeah, weaponized autism.

Go buy the book. Send me the true story of a mother at war. But then also literally just bought on Amazon. Yeah. And your buddy, our friend, Jack Carr wrote a nice little blurb for it right on the cover there. Um, just, you know, go buy the book, but then also, Hey, you know, go see if you can't help us get a ship named after Shannon. Ken, Marty, you, sorry, go ahead. You labored over that thing though. Like this wasn't something you whipped out in six months. Like,

Dude, when we, I mean, he was running a, he was running coffee. He was running a freaking heavy duty independent publication website, you know, 30 freaking staff. And then in every waking moment, like we, we did a drive from, from Sioux Falls to pier South Dakota, a good four or five hour drive. Marty's in the backseat the entire time.

Working on that book just laboring over that thing like every waking moment you were working on that thing You want to talk about a mood killer? Everybody's joking around in the car and then I'm like, hey guys, can I read you this section real quick? Yeah, it's about it's like no I remember the section you read me is the most depressing. It was like I'm like She died didn't she? Yeah

Yeah, so it was a little bit of a mood killer, but yeah, I worked on it as much as I could. And Joe, I mean, the book wouldn't be what it is without Joe's efforts on it either. If there's anybody that deserves to have their story heard and told far and wide, it is Shannon Kent. And I'll say it now too because... A real live G.I. Jane. Yeah, and I'll just say her maiden name is Smith. The Smith family has been through so much. Her younger brother, Mike Smith, was a career Marine Special Operator, EOD officer.

He just retired from the Marine Corps last October and then just very recently passed away. And he just got buried in Arlington, just not too far from where Shannon is. So that family, they had, you know, the Smith family,

I'll just, I won't put their first names out there. Mr. and Mrs. Smith, they had three kids. Two of them now have been lost to the war on terror. So very, very few families out there, I think, have the level, have lost so much in defense of this nation, in service, or rather, I think more accurately, in service to this nation. The actual true heroes that went through hardships. And it is, I know Cody, we were talking about that earlier. It's like, are you ever going to write a story? And then I hear stories like that, I'm like, no.

Nope, because my story is Eli dropped out of high school, lazy shitbag, did war, got out, did stuff. I had someone say to me one time, you never really talk about the war. Was it rough for you? I'm like,

I hang out with like Medal of Honor recipients and like tier one people. So what the hell am I going to say about it? You know, it's hard because when you're in that it when you when you're surrounded by those dudes, you're like, oh, I was in gunfight. A lot of gunfight. Yeah.

And I just get so normalized. We're like, oh, I can't. I was only shot and shot at and blown up a few times. That's nothing. It's weird. Because you see those guys, you're like, holy. All right. I'm going to go on the alternative. If McConaughey can write a book. Okay. True. True. True. True. Well, he probably had a good ghost, right? Dude, it's been a pleasure having you. Yeah. And Jack, you want to do the special one?

Are we doing the special afterwards? No, we're not doing the special. Guys, thank you for joining the unsubscribed podcast. I am joined today by Eli Doubletap, Marty Scovelin Jr., Jack Mandeville, Brandon Herrera, myself, Donut Operator. Thank you so much. Check us out on Pepperbox. Where do we find you beautiful boys? It's super simple, at Marty Scovelin Jr. I'm sure you guys will get that no problem. Super easy name. You can find me in Jared's spare room.

And that's it. Love you.