149 - AI Is Racist & Indians Have No Rizz ft. SomeOrdinaryGamers
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Carrie and the Republicans will secure the border, support our families, and never turn their backs on us. Carrie Lake for Senate. I'm Carrie Lake, candidate for U.S. Senate, and I approve this message. Paid for by Carrie Lake for Senate and the NRSC. I got swatted on Christmas last year. Dude, this pussy was over. We haven't done the offenders in a while. I f***ing hate my own kind. At least you're not doing it. And we're golden, and we're golden.

Bro, you gotta cut the Netflix description. Desperate Housewives, your immediate response. Bro, it's time. The irony of you being so desperate, you started watching Desperate Housewives. Yeah.

We had nothing to watch. Wouldn't that disgrace anatomy right now? Me lucky charms. I don't believe you've ever heard an Irishman. Ever.

I love I can do every accent but white people accents are the ones I'm like, how do they do that? Do the Indian accent real quick, bro. Do the Indian accent. Let me hear you here. Do you do it first? Indian accent first? Oh, sir, you have to buy the Windows warranty on your computer. If you don't do it in 365 days, you will be hacked. You'll be hacked. Hacked.

Oh, you got to talk. Do you talk? See, my best part is getting a scam call and then responding to them as the other scam call. Oh, hello. I'm like, you just called the other officer. You answer with that answer. You're scamming each other back and forth. I'm like, you called the other officer. Hello, Dinesh, we are right down the road. Dinesh, what are you doing? You know my number is here. Dinesh, call me later. This is how this episode started. Unsubscribe podcast coming in hot.

Cody's like, I'm white and uncomfortable right now. There's a lot of brown on this table. I like it. I was just going to make a joke about how this is like a reverse Oreo. You stuck the brownest people in the middle and then just kind of go out white from there. Credit on that side. How racist can I be on this podcast? You can get away with a lot of stuff. You got the passes. Yeah, we're good right now. Ready to pop that top? Do we have pops to tops? Tops to pops? One, two.

I almost called you Dinesh, Jesus Christ. I was like, Dinesh needs one. I'm calling him Dinesh. Moodleheart needs one, Jesus. Good old White Claw? Yes, we usually pop the top. I'm popping this one. Do you have an extra? You don't have to drink it. I'll drink all of them. Okay. We're just popping. I was going to say, you gave me a raspberry. Have I insulted your family?

I've insulted my family. Well, you want black cherry? Is that any better? Yes, absolutely it's better. Should we swap it? All right, I appreciate it. Black cherry, folks. Dinesh loves the raspberry. There's the shirt for the episode. Dinesh loves the raspberry. One, two, three.

Welcome to the unsubscribe podcast. I'm joined today by Eli DoubleFab, Brandon Herrera, who hates veterans, and Mr. Nudahar, some ordinary gamer, something like that. And I'm Donut. And Donut Operator. Hi, hi, hi. Welcome. You're already watching because we started very racist on this episode. They're like, oh, this is a good episode.

I kind of looked halfway through that conversation and saw the red recording button. I'm like, all right, well, that's how we're just going in hard. We're going in hard with that. I mean, you have to, you know, you have to break the ice somehow. Brandon's still the bad guy in this entire episode. I don't know, how could a Medal of Honor recipient hate veterans? I saw the fucking thumbnail you guys used for the one with veteran with a sign. I'm like...

I wasn't on that episode. What the shit, dude? I'm not even from this country and I was so offended when I saw that. Well, you are from the Twitter sphere, though. I am. Poor Bray. You got to see the front lines warfare on Twitter. I get to see the worst humanity. I get to see the worst of humanity every day when I sign on to that godforsaken app.

So which is your... Where does your Twitter algorithm tint towards? There's like the duality of man. It's either porn or snuff films. Bro, I get fights...

Snuff films and porn, dude. I get all of it every day. Dude, when I go into the bathroom, I sit down on the toilet. I open up that Twitter app. It's either porn or it's either somebody getting clocked in the head, dude. It's not even a choice in between. Titties! Death titties! Out of my week, there's maybe one day where I'm like, oh, dude, cute cat photo. Awesome. I can start my day off successfully. Shit. It's like that meme I saw recently where it's like, bro,

you woke up at six o'clock to go to your fucking nine to five job popped open zach bryan and did like fucking down two red bulls did you even try to have a good day no but here it begins it's like your dopamine is so blown out because like you were saying it's like titties murder titties murder this is disgusting

My brain doesn't know what to do right now. Why is the algorithm feeding me this? Because you keep scrolling it. Because you keep scrolling through. You're like, man, maybe it'll get better at some point. Or you're like, maybe I like the titties in Murder, Dude. Maybe that's what it's all about. That is fucking gladiator mode. Do it to a T. It is blaming the algorithm for your own. Your own porn. Eli's over here. Why is all I see gay porn? This is weird. I hate this stuff. Babe, check this one out.

Well, that's like the algorithm tell, right? Like when you're like an engineer and somebody is like, man, why is the algorithm keep feeding me? I'm like, bro, what's the last 10 things you watched? Gay porn?

It's probably going to give you the 11 videos I'm just saying. But I swear I know. There's no bias. That's how they keep you stuck in, right? That's the whole algorithm stuff. They keep you constantly scouring the feed. Which is kind of fucking wild because you see these stories of where dads get mad because they're serving ads to his teenage daughter for prenatal vitamins and things like that. And he's like, dude, what the fuck? What message are you trying to send? And realize the algorithm knew your daughter was pregnant before you did. Yeah.

It's fucking wild. That's the world we live in. That's when you give Google way too much power into looking into your phone and personal life and everything, dude. You realize that we're all just ones and zeros at the end of the day? You don't like being psychoanalyzed by a real person, much less a computer. Dude, you know the wildest shit is I make so many videos about cybersecurity and protecting your information. What have you got to hide? I'm like, dude, I'm going to bring the question. Do you want some random guy to walk into your house and watch what you do every day? Yeah.

You know, like, no, just think about it. You come home from work. You got a shitty day streaming. You're already like fucking, you know, social batteries checked out. You come home at five o'clock. You sign off to go. You sit in your living room. There's an asshole looking at every single thing you did. Like, and that's the thing. I'm like, it's not that I have nothing to hide. It's just like, it's creepy, you know, like it's weird. Well, it's not like you have like a lot of, you know, illegal money and weapons like the rest of us. You really do have nothing. No,

No, no, I'm Canadian. I have more illegal weapons. Actually, I didn't think about it from that perspective. But you guys are at least licensed to own your stuff. I pretty much sit unlicensed in my house, dude. Come on. Space, space, space, space, space, space. This episode name is just based. Moodahar is based as fuck. He's like, no, no, no, no. Dude, I don't give a shit if the cops raid my house. Like legit, I got like a license for everything. If I get fucking raided, like what's going to happen? A day out of my life is gone. You kick down my door, but at least

I get to laugh at the RCMP and all the cops, and I'm like, at least I was licensed. And you get to make fucking 10 grand off the video you make about it. 100%. That's the best part. It's like, if I get rated by the cops as a YouTuber, I'm like, shit, that's just a payday right there. Hell yeah. A payday, bro. Have you been swatted yet? No, not like at my house or anything. I had like cops, like I had a system where like YouTube,

Usually for streams, you would go to cops beforehand and tell them, yeah, I do video stuff, and you might get a call. So what ended up happening was anytime there would be a swatting, they would call my phone in the middle of a stream or anything, and I'd be like, I'm streaming, somebody's fucking with you. My house is not a hostage situation. And that's happened to you before? Yeah, it's happened before around in places, because when I did deep web browsing and stuff, my actual address was leaked on the dark web, so...

from time to time they would like call up the address and like they would send the SWAT teams out and that's why you need aura no I'm sorry which ad break do we have I think it's aura do we actually have aura this time yes oh my god we do yes aura g-van you're welcome g-van aura if there's a tushy ad right now g-van I'm fucking kill you UFC 299s this weekend if you know one thing the boys and I are in the

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What the fuck, Gavin? We walked through this. No, bro, the worst part about like the swatting stuff is like some of the addresses are so old. They're from like previous residences. I'm like, dude, the last thing I want is some like random person to get like a fucking cop kicking down their door. And it's not me, you know? I'd kind of prefer that.

You know, it's the body count of a no knock raid at a rando's house is much lower than mine. Dude, I got swatted on Christmas last year. I've been swatted five times now and I got swatted on Christmas and they called me and they're like, are you holding your family hostage? I'm like, it's a swatting. And the cops said, what's swatting? Like, are you fucking serious, dude?

Not a single cop knew what the fuck a swatting was? There was like one young cop that probably told them all. That's why they didn't kick in my door. I wasn't even at home. I was with my family in South Carolina. Well, it's like we were talking about on the drive to, I can say, B.

Beep that out just in case. We blurred it during the Zach episode. Probably a good idea to blur it now. Bleep it again, G-Man. But driving there, we were talking about cybersecurity because that's what you went to school for. You're like, Homeboy's very smart. You do actually business business and then YouTube is a...

YouTube is always like the secondary side gig. It's because YouTube is a fleeting business to be in. I say that like I say that like we're all I say that like with the with a sense of fear, but it's like I'm mostly like in stability land.

You know, like I grew up immigrant family. So it's like when the money comes in, it's like you want to invest that wisely and then you can live comfortably. But yeah, you know, like unlike a lot of the other streamer crowd, I guess I was talking with you guys about I'm like, yes, I worked a previous job career. And then you how because you do your own VPNs, you do your own VPN, like you build everything from the ground up. You're like, oh, you can do it yourself. It's really easy. I'm like, well, yeah.

Easy for you. And you're like, yeah, that's true. I went to college for this. It's like me talking to you guys about building AKs. It's like, no, seriously, like legitimately, like you never fucking pressed a hot rivet before. Like, come on. No, we haven't. It's like even with the computer stuff, it's like making a video on like, you know, virtual machines or like, you know, your own VPNs or like DNS servers or something to like give you the edge. I understand it's not for everyone. That's why like anytime I make a video like that, I make it for like the most unintelligible person watching, not out of like,

any superiority. It's like literally that's what it's made for. Like if you're making a video for like, if you're teaching somebody how to make an AK and they already know how to make an AK, what's the point of that video, right? Like they already know. But if you're teaching somebody that doesn't know from scratch, that's probably the best thing you can do in terms of like an educational video, right? Like teach somebody that has no idea. They walk in and they start playing around experimenting and then they become like, there's people that watched me like two years ago when I started doing this kind of stuff. And they're like, yeah, I'm a cyber sec major now. And I'm like, dude,

Dude, congratulations. Awesome. You like got inspired. Great. That's awesome to see. And you're one of the first ones I think we've had where you're like YouTube, you're pretty decently sized on YouTube. And still, when you were talking about your other jobs, you're still working nine to fives or more on your other businesses. And YouTube is a secondary. That's how we started. I was like, yo, okay, you're actually doing that as your day to day. He's like, yeah, no, YouTube's just.

Secondary. Sunquest. To add to that, you're the first YouTuber I think I've ever met in person that I didn't previously know that has echoed the same psychology I've always had about it, where it's like, this is 15 minutes of fame. This could disappear at any moment. Yeah, I mean, we all fall off, right? Like, if I look at, like, even my numbers or anybody's numbers, it's like, you know, pre-COVID, like, higher. Then you start dwindling off, and it's like, there's no shame in that. That's how it works. Nobody uses Simpsons, right? But, like...

You could be making a lot of money and be like an athlete and burn it all and like be at the same square one you were before or like take some of that and like, you know, build a platform, build like a safety like, you know, vest or whatever and just –

Roll with that. And then everything else later on becomes like a fun, you know, adventure for you, right? You're not making content for the sake of it. You're making it because you actually enjoy the topic or what you want to make versus... It's a livelihood, which I... And that's why I love, like, all... The guys down here, it's one of my favorite things about y'all is...

It's like, we got money. What do we do? Well, naturally the normal thing, spend it on another business that we can build more money and hire more people. Everyone's the same. It's like, let's acquire a business. We're all filthy capitalists. Pieces of shit at the end of the day.

Look at us profiteering off of the labor. Giving people jobs. Pieces of shit. Building businesses. Employing people. Sorry we worked really fucking hard and we made money. It's terrible. Brandon, can we talk about who's watching in the live audience? Sure, yeah. For the first time, I have my parents that are here watching this. I've made jokes in the past. I'm like, it's really uncomfortable for me to record an unsub episode now because I know my parents watch.

Every episode now come on real quick and do a quick feature with the the parents you're more than one This is why I don't say fuck as much as I used to

Brandon's mom looks like she's five years older than him. This is why I don't bring her on camera. These are my young kids. I know the comments right now. Funny thing, I don't bring them around. No, it's the running joke now because it's been a running joke for a few years is that I call Cody's mom, mom, and vice versa. So we're just, you know, brothers from another mother, literally.

It's true. Yeah. Your dad looks hella Asian, by the way. Dude, it's funny. We talked about that for years. I got told about that. Like, I walked in, I was like, huh, looks like one of mine. Are you Eli's dad, too? I just need him to say the thing. I am a Japanese American. I'm a Japanese American. Definitely Filipino. Is there something you want to tell us like that happened back then? Like, who is this?

Well, say hi. You guys can... You guys have what? We're proud of the boys. Their brand is crazy. How is having a potential congressman son that also shitposts on the internet? A shamed former congressional candidate.

He hates veterans, by the way. I just want you guys to know that. It's so crazy. When coming to the show, it's like real Adamson Nesta, somebody that can be in the U.S. political system. It's like, bro, YouTube's a wild business to be in, man. It's only going to get weirder. I was just kind of the little bit that broke the glass. It's going to get fucking weird in the next five years. I promise you that. So weird. How was it when he started blowing up? Was it A? Hey, this is fucking... What? Our kiddo's...

How many people know his name now? And then you see those numbers behind it. Was it like taken aback at first? I remember when YouTube was foo-foo and that wasn't a real world business, but that's still happening. It was kind of, you know, Brandon was Brandon. He's always been Brandon. The way he does everything, cuts up, shoot stuff, blow stuff up. You know, that's what he did his whole life. So it was getting a little weird when he was going to hotels with us to Disney World and people like, oh, wow.

Can I get a picture? Can I get a selfie? And all that stuff. That's when reality kicks in when people stop you in Disney or Hard Rock Hotel. So that was kind of cool. And it happens more and more. Yeah, it's crazy. He kept us on our toes. He's no one. You piece of shit, you're no one. Imagine raising the AK Jesus.

You are way too religious to make that joke. The AK Jesus man. Christ alive. Was he virgin birth? I speak a foreign language.

They're like, Eli made that joke. That was Eli's sacrilege. They're like, that was Eli's sacrilege. No, I love my parents. You guys, thank you so much for coming out. We love you. There's no way you guys can make a shirt that says AK Jesus on it now. Oh, you'll be shocked. You guys have that? Oh, I have that. Oh, God.

God, it won't matter. My political career will be over by the time that this comes out. Back in the day when we first moved here, Eli was like, I got a great idea for a photo shoot. We went over to Matt Best's house. It's a viral photo. It's been posted everywhere. It's actually one of my favorite pictures of our group. Truly, it is. It's very controversial. I literally, I had another fellow congressional candidate reach out to me. He was a very, very, very nice man. I really do like him a lot. And he showed the photo to me. So like,

So he's very religious, very religious. He's like, so what's this all about? I'm kind of autistic. So like nothing normal shit doesn't register. I'm like, oh, that's just a good photo. It's a hilarious picture. We weren't hating on religion. No, I was like, Brandon here, wrap this. This is like, cause that's always been like a, like a, a internet moniker of mine. Like people were like, oh, he's just AK Jesus. Cause I always wear flip flops and had long hair and I guess slightly brown.

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Like he's walking on water. He's got the AK. So he's saving. That was a, that was Matt best. I think throw rug over his, uh, over his couch that I'm wearing. Yeah. It was because we walked out. I was like Gallagher. Okay, dude. Like I was telling Gallagher what I wanted. And then you, your response was like, I have no idea what this is going to turn out. I was like, gotcha.

And we barely knew each other at the time. Like, man, I got a lot of faith in you right now. Because also when I was wearing that, I'm like, bro, I go commando. So if you need me to ditch these fucking pants, this is going to get fucking weird fast. Real quick. And then Gallagher did the actual like Photoshop of it. It turned out fucking immaculate. He's like, is that good? I'm like, it's fucking everything I ever wanted.

And it was fine until your campaign started. That's when it became unfine? That's the thing? From everything we've done together, that's the thing that was unfine? I haven't seen that in a mailer yet. You hate veterans, not us. Eli, have you seen the new mailer? No. There's a new mailer? That his opponent set up? There's like a Hispanic PAC or whatever that's like, we want Hispanic leadership, so fuck this Herrera guy.

Wait, he's... Wait, they're shitting on Brandon Herrera mocking the veterans? That is so fucked up, man. I mean, I'm looking at this mail here. Welcome to politics. We just left a... ...speaking engagement for veterans. I'm going to read you guys the quote.

I think about often putting a gun in my mouth. So basically, I'm an honorable veteran. Well, when you say it like that, I mean, I know. And the fucked up part of it, I'm like, congratulations on subs in the news.

Well, what was fucked up is I actually I was actually just talking to one of one of my biggest detractors, apparently. And I mentioned that because he had mentioned he's like, so what do you have to say about this? I'm like, yeah, I was joking on a podcast that, by the way, I partially own. You know, it's not like a hot like a hot mic moments. Like I was joking about a joke that I didn't make because I said it was too far around my veteran friends who said I should have said it.

Because I donated my time at SHOT Show to speak at a veteran prevention conference. It's like, this is completely fucking... We showed up to this. There was nothing like we wanted to do it for Sarah and Tim and everyone. They were like, hey, do you want to do this? Great people. Yeah, we love them. And then they just asked us like 100% we're going to do this. No questions asked. Even if it is 10 in the morning at SHOT Show, which is a very hard time to wake up at. SHOT Show time is fucking different. Yeah, 10 a.m. and you're like...

but no we were all happy to do it we were all happy to be a part of that panel awesome and you cry like we complimented shit out of you i was like even once you left i was like man he did a fucking really good tim leaned over he's like fucking brandon killed it it's like yes that was perfectly done cody like everyone just covered down did an amazing job we had laughs we had a good time and then afterwards we left the podcast and had a good time yeah

And at the end of a two hour podcast, I make a joke about a joke. I didn't say people clip seven seconds and it's like, well, I can't fucking believe it's like, Oh God, that's like social media shit in general. Right? It's like pretty much clip you. Like you could, you could be speaking for like two hours. I'm like, bro, you say something fucked up in five seconds. That's what's going to be on the internet. It's just going to be floating around.

Well, your content, watching, going back to kind of algorithm, but the AI-based stuff on Gemini and watching how it was based. So I didn't know it was going off of Reddit. And then once you said that, I was like, this makes so much fucking sense. Because it was sourcing Reddit as one of the... Well, that's where they got the biggest deal from, right? Like Gemini made like the, I think it was like a $70 million deal with like Google. Like Reddit and Google are now buddy-buddy. And every time you make a fucking post... Well, Gemini is Google-based, right?

Is this the no white people thing? Yeah, the Google Gemini AI where it was like, draw me a Nazi and then it would make me wearing the swastika. To be fair, you wearing the swastika would mean something very different historically. No, no, I'm talking about like a swastika rotated a little bit 45 degrees. With arrows pointing up. That's where it gets fucked up. The windmill of friendship. Yeah, the windmill of friendship goes into like hatred real fucking

I was cracking up. She was like, show me a Viking. It's like four black Vikings. And you were just like, just go on. Just questioning. Like, like, look, I get it. I get the understanding of like, so the way that the AI works, it's like, they probably added like a diversity clause to it or something. Right. Cause it's like when you're generating, like make an image in time square, there's probably different races everywhere in time square. You take a photo of time square right now, you're going to find a lots of me's and use and everyone. Right.

But there's a big difference between draw me an image of Times Square in 2024 and the Vikings from back in the olden days. Because I literally have to... It's a shame that I have to go to Google and look up the Vikings. I'm like, boys, they're from modern-day Denmark, okay? Last I checked, my people were not piloting ships to that north. Literally, that's too fucking cold for us, okay? I don't care how much they like piracy. That's too cold for us.

You're becoming one of the favorite guests right now. Well, we were one of the people behind the compass and sundial. So we're like, go south. That's warmer. You know, works for us. It was if you haven't read it made a lot of sense. So the second you says like it's based, it's using Reddit as it's like learning algorithm. Like, oh, this makes way more sense when it kicks back certain stuff because you're like,

What's like is Barack Obama black? And it'd be like, yes. And this, and then you ask, was it George Washington or who? Well, it was like, is George Washington white? It's like, well, George Washington had like a weird biracial angle. And then it started like sourcing, like his kids. And I was like, maybe he's like adopted. Yeah. Like as adopted kid, maybe they might've went up, but I'm like, last I checked, like the founding father is like, they were pretty white. Yeah. It wasn't until 300 years. They were like, all right, we can add like another now Thomas Jefferson. Yeah.

Yeah, his bloodline gets a little muddy. Crossing the Delaware with Mexican. Completely different photo. I really want to see the AI generated. George Washington crossing the Rio Grande. Like, what?

We got to get to the border, boys. And that's like the whole AI generation, right? It's like it just generates like all the diverse like races for like... And that's where like, you know, when you're pro... Like what people don't get about like the AI stuff is it's not like, you know, AI from like a sci-fi show. It's like you feed it a bunch of data and you get a bunch of programmers that write...

how that data is supposed to be processed. So if you add like those diversity clauses, you're going to have funny jokes like that, right? And I understand why like Google turns it off and they're like, okay, let's cook this for another six months until we get rid of some of the stupidest shit and then we can come back. Because the first one you brought up, it was...

back in what 2015 16 the AI in image generation where it's like glumping photos together of like all the so the Google photos and for people who need to know this it's like this is how wild it was if you were like you know an african-american like couple right you took a photo of yourself and you're like damn this is really fucking cute you upload it to Google photos there could be a chance like years later you open up that app and it's like oh shit when did I go see gorillas of the zoo or

that's when you find out it's just me. It would tag you as gorillas. Yeah, so 2016? Yeah, yeah. Oh my god. So it was just a black community. And Goozles was like,

Got it. Here, you're in this sector of photos now. And they're like, yo, yo, yo, what the fuck is going on? So that's why they turned off AI-based image. Yeah, that's how, like, the AI is. It was, like, human, gorilla, and if I took a photo, it's, like, call center. Like, it would start doing that, you know? It's like, that's how it picked you. You've done some stuff with, like, Internet Historian, right? It was his video about Tay, like the AI Microsoft. I think it was Tay.

Yeah, we went like crazy in 24 hours went from like that hosting to like cuz like 4chan and 4chan got a hold of it and then all of a sudden it was just oh my god What happened is like oh, how's the weather like at 8 a.m. And I'm like literally 24 hours later. It's like so about that fourth Reich boys

How's the weather? Scratch that. I got more important things to worry about the weather. All of a sudden, Tay, it's like, wow, it's beautiful to see technology advancing in this way. How are you if you had five ovens in four years and you had to bake six million cookies? It's like, holy shit. Check it.

Yeah, it's like Microsoft jumps in and it's like, all right, we probably, and it's one of those things where it's like, I bet it's like a wholesome group of engineers. It's like, I bet you nothing can go wrong. They high-fived afterwards, like, let's do it. Nah, this is a group of engineers. You know, there were like half of them that are like, bro, this is going to go fucking off.

Yeah, I mean, it's going to get fucking wild. Maybe that's what they did with the Google stuff. They had like a few guys who were like, this is going to be fucking meme material in the next 24 hours. And then they got the call from head office. They're like, all right, you got to cut this shit off. Fun times over, boys. Pull the plug. Pull the fucking plug right now. Pull the plug.

And that was the end of it. No, it wasn't. Dude, I refuse to believe there's anybody working at these companies. Like, bro, if I was working at Google, you know who I'd hire? I'd hire, like, the quality assurance check for, like, the most obscene material. I'd have somebody working prompts every day. I'm like, I want you to type in the most obscenely racist shit and see if, like, our thing makes that so we don't look bad in front of the public. So to our audience, you have a job. LAUGHTER

That's what we're hiring for? No, for that. Oh, okay. No, there's a job opening for you. I've seen the way you guys get around the censors. It's like, no, I finally know how to become a contractor now. All right, type in the most obscenely racist shit, and I'm like... I am ready for this. You're literally floating already. He's ascending to the next plane of employment.

I know what to do when YouTube shits me out. Okay. I can make a lot of money doing this. N1. It's like you open a nice bottle of wine. It's like, all right, it's time to start the evening. I just need to relax, babe. Leave me alone. Someone bring me down. Licking them fingertips. Good idea.

It's so wild. It's like, there's going to be, once this stuff goes like super open source and everyone gets their hands on the code, could you just imagine like actual, like really fucked up people getting their hands on it and like using it to like the worst advantage. Like I, I,

I am. It's going to be a few years before it happens, but I think it's going to get like way worse. Like we're memeing about it right now, but I think there's going to be like genuinely fucked up dudes that are going to be generating some really fucked up shit or through because it's like, I don't know if you guys saw like the new Sora open AI stuff, like those really good videos. Yeah. The dogs in snow. That was literally the one I used earlier. Yeah. I just pictured the beginning of T2.

It's the robots walking and they're just yelling the N-word. The robots are just killing people yelling the N-word. You're like, AI, jump over it. It's like, this is all happening. Oh, God. But nobody knows about it because all of the sensors for all news outlets have the N-word blocked. So they're able to eliminate half the human population before anyone knows about it.

These racist robots are killing everyone.

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Man, I didn't even think Metal Gear Solid 2 was like forefront of like, hey, this is going to be an issue. Kojima was like, here you go. You have just touched his tism in a way that we can't put back in the box. Dude, leave it to like some Japanese game developer to like predict the fucking future, like 20 years in advance. This is in 2003. He said like AI is going to be an issue. And when it went off the rails in that, like it starts speaking randomly through using other people. Yeah, his fucking face generated AI. I forgot about that.

Remember the codec because it's the colonel's AI. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the second game, yeah, all of it is like actual real time, like human generated faces. So like even video and shit like that. And who is it? Thanks, Kojima. Thank you, Kojima. What the fuck? I didn't even think about that. Dune, is it Frank Herbert? Frank Herbert. Yeah, yeah. He was predicting computers would take over all of basically all of everything in a few thousand years. Yeah.

In the 1950s, 60s? Yeah, yeah, 60s. I'll never doubt on this one. So they had the Butlerian Jihad. We also just saw Dune 2, like...

Two days ago. Yeah. So in a time period there, they wiped out all computers because AI started taking over. And so that's why in Dune they have the guys that like, I don't know if you remember doing one where the guy, he rolls his eyes in the back of his head, the mentats. So they have human computers now because they cannot, they, they just don't have computers in that future. They eliminated computers and just hired Asians. Yeah.

Basically. Advocuses and everything, brother. Reading the future. Ones and zeros. I got it. How hard you nerd out about doing that is your tism on everything. Yes. Cause you know, he was my translator in Dune too. I'm just kind of like Cody, what the fuck's happening? He's just like, well, all right. So 4,000 years before this, the front row is like, shh.

I was like, all right, here's what's happening right now. It was like laying out the history for him. I knew that you were like kind of like self-conscious about like, I don't want to be that guy. I appreciated it because I didn't know what the fuck was happening half the time. If you don't know doing the movies don't make fucking sense at all.

It is a lot of lore. I read them when I was like 14 and I've reread them since then. So I'm like five. I've reread the Dune series like five times now. Yeah, you get so that was the first movie I seen you super hyped about, like super happy. Like I got tickets.

Me and Brandon had a great conversation. You're like, yeah. We were like, okay, Cody's getting tickets. And Brandon's like, okay, like 7.30. And you're like, got it. I got it for 9. We're watching Tuna now. Cody's like, this is my time. No one's switching how this plays out. I got my seats. I got my tickets. Because my girl still got a real job and everything. And I'm just like, oh, shit. I could probably get there at like 7.30. You're like, 9.15. Fuck you. On a three-hour saga. Yeah.

It was fun. That was a good, that was a good dress as a sandworm. He's crazy. He did. Yeah. He fucked the popcorn bucket. I was rolling around as a sandworm. I got to watch the first one. He hasn't watched the first one.

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Make sure that fucking Cody doesn't kill our guest for the third time in the podcast history. He's like, you got the 9mm. Don't worry about me. We have to delete those episodes. It's terrible. We haven't done a super hero. We just do an augmented reality thing with our audience. Like, oh yeah, the deleted podcast. You guys should do an episode on the fucking metaverse, bro. You guys should just embrace that shit. In the metaverse? You guys should make that popular. Are we going to get fucked there? Dude, 100%. Bro, that was my favorite video about the metaverse.

I'm so glad you brought it up. Cody, few words, but when he says them... No, but it's true. No, but he's not kidding. For a week. For a week, I tried. For a week, I agree. For a week, I tried getting legitimately f***ed in the metaverse. I tried, dude. I tried to be a statistic. What were you wearing? Well...

I'll tell you what, I was looking like a cute boy in fucking Mark's world.

When the whole Horizon Worlds thing happened back then, and it was like the whole meme was like, dude, you can get harassed on the metaverse. Every time internet harassment comes up to me, I remember the Tyler the Creator tweet where he was like, bro, just log off the fucking internet. Did we just become best friends? Just power down. When they put that tweet out where it was like, girl, right?

in the metaverse the the uk police are are investigating i posted the title of the creator tweet take your walk away turn like close your eyes turn the screen off

When I saw that whole thing, I'm like, man, the UK police has got to have an extraordinary fucking budget to be wasting their time investigating it. Because it's like, dude, if somebody calls me at whatever on the internet, I just log off. I swipe up on the phone. I fucking do my own thing. And that's it. Well, when you're not allowed to look into acid attacks, they have a lot of extra time. Yeah, that's true. Man, where did he touch you? In here.

But it's like, dude, like, I went on there for, like, like, I went on to the Horizon Worlds metaverse, and it's like, dude, I spent a week trying to get fucked up on there. Like, I spent a week trying to, like... You were trying to get graped? Literally trying to get fucked up. I just picture you walking around in a skirt. What?

I literally did. I was submissive and breathable, dude. This pussy was open. I did my best, but the problem is the world was so dead that there wasn't even anybody there. I would log into the metaverse and it would just be dead. It's like a luminal space. I'm just sitting there. I'm like, bro, what server are you logging into where this is really fucked

You're going on like reddit to find out what fucking servers to log into for predators to attack you to literally Fucking get it and that's one like I'm like I'm just in there I'm like we can't be treating this shit seriously bro Like we can't be treating the the metaverse attacks like to just walk off like it is what it is But you know what it actually is

You know, people are getting a fucking email that are reporters that are 47 years old that are like, whoa, this metaverse is what I heard about. And like they have never fucking had any experience with it. No. Oh, obviously this is a real problem because I know that this is a new popular thing.

Well, it's like the same people. It's like I got shot dead in Los Santos, boys. Like the other day I was driving in GT online. Somebody blew up my fucking car, dude. I was like participant to a criminal gang shooting me. It's like, dude, it's a video game. Like, log the fuck off. I'm PTSD now. You should have called the police. Grand Theft Auto. You're like, I'm sorry. Thank you for your service.

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Oh, shit, yeah. We haven't done The Offenders the past couple podcasts. What is The Offenders? It's our superhero group. It is The Avengers, but broken...

So we all have, we don't save anyone either. No, we try, we try our damnedest. So all of us has superpowers. Cody can fly. There's an offset to how he can fly. You have super speed. I have super speed. Brandon, I'm invincible, invincible. Cody has to use yell racial slurs in order to fly. So,

Okay. His power is only activated for that. I have super speed. I can't interact with anything five minutes from using my power. What is it? The crime cock? Yeah, crime cock. So I'm like, stop that. And I just phase through stuff for five minutes as I try to dial phones or anything. Cody can't save minorities.

Well, he can. He can. He just has to deal with a whole lot of shit that comes out afterwards. He just has to deal with Twitter for three days. Yeah, so if I go to a Section 8 housing development, it's on fire. You're fucked, dude. It's on fire. And I want to save the children. It's like... You fly over and you're like, it's not working. Oh, no. I just love the wide shot of Cody walking up with a ladder. And they're like, just fly. You can fly. He's like, mm-mm. Not today. Mm-mm. Not happening. Mm-mm.

And then Brandon just resets life. Yeah. Whenever I, sorry, G-Van. I just back to life, but in my own bed and I have no memory of what happened before.

before and his other body still stays so it's really awkward when it's like my body and a ceiling fan still hanging there just like swinging around the room that's fucking not today that's how you know you're like yesterday was a bad day we didn't handle thursday well would you not have like any recollection of why

That being said what superpower have you always wanted I?

I think I always wanted invisibility, dude. Like, just the ability to go completely invisible at any given moment. Why, you fucking perv? Well, I mean, I think you answered the question. We're going to have to find one. We have Angry Cops has invisibility. Of course he does. In order to activate it, he has to masturbate. So no matter what, it's very quiet. He's like invisible, but you just hear...

He's near. You don't see him. It's like a fucking stealth masturbator. Is your dude being hot? No, bro. I mean, yeah. Right here, like, oh, fuck. No, bro. I mean, being invisible, it's like you can do, like, there's a lot of tactical advantages you have in a situation, right? Like, if I was a superhero and there's a hostage situation, being invisible, greatest fucking ass in the world. I could be like...

When I stop doing that and I'm visible, then I can start snapping necks and shit, right? That's kind of like... Oh, it's the naked Indian dude. Behind his butt. Dude, he's fucking...

He's the embodiment of Instagram real comments. Yeah. 100%. I fucking hate my own kind for ruining online dating.

Bro, like, I'll be real. Like, nothing makes you a self-hating Indian guy than, like, Instagram, dude. You delete that app any day. There could be, like... Dude, it could be, like, a fucking blonde girl graduating her, like, fucking high school or, like, college or whatever. Dude, three scrolls down. Please, please, race skirt, present vagina. I'm like, dude, I'm...

Fucking offended. I fucking hate my own people. I feel like half of Indian Instagram is like just LARPing as Andrew Tate. Dude, it 100% is. It's like, you know, they get access to like a pair of sunglasses and shit and like a halfway decent like fucking cell phone and it's like...

Now you're on cloud nine, baby. It's like, you're the fucking king of Mumbai. It's like, fuck me. Oh God. I gotta, I gotta show you my girlfriend's DM sometime. Lots of boobs and the gene there. I remember like an ex girlfriend of mine was like my, like, it was like Tinder. She was, I asked me about it. Cause like, he just like the topic came up. She was like, tell me about it. I'm like, I get like no matches on there. Cause I'm like, bro, it's like, look at me. I'm like ethnically challenged. Like my people have fucked me on this app. Okay.

I'm already unmatchable, all right? It's never going to fucking happen. Like, why would I get on the app? I've already been fucked by my own kind. Like, bro, these people see the city of Toronto and they're still expecting Bob's and Vagina. You match and you send it. It's like, Bob's and Vagina? JK, let me see that puss, girl. Damn it! Damn!

Bro, it's like such a shame, too, because like every time like I see like it's just every time I see it happen, I'm like, dude, you guys, you got to understand. Like I understand there's like a language barrier. Right. There is right. Like Sanskrit is not English. I get it. But like, bro, Bob's in the gene. Like you got to have better game than that, dude. Like I like I brought this up to my parents. I respect your people for casting a wide net.

No, you respect my people for making sure your fucking servers stay up every fucking week, right? Like, Jesus. Listen, India's responsible for a lot of things. You shut the fuck up, Brandon. This is why you respect my people. Brandon, you're like, listen. Especially when it comes to NordVPN. Boom! The year's 2024. Do you know what that means? A new look for you. Biscay, that's the 5.0 Lawnmower Ultra. That's right, the Lawnmower 5.0 Ultra is a man's cheat code to looking good.

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Yeah, bro. My people are working around the clock to make sure your servers run, dude. It's kind of like how the life is a big game of World of Warcraft. Every race has its perks and its negatives. Like, our perk is plus 30 IT, negative 70 fucking RIS. Which is fucking spectacular because you breed better than anyone else.

You gotta thank arranged marriages for that, dude. You guys all have like fucking six kids. Like what? 1.7 billion in your continent? You gotta thank the arranged marriages for that shit, bro. Like if it's already locked in, why do you gotta work hard on anything, bro? You're already getting married. You're already making kids. Come on now.

Fair enough. The less time you have to dedicate to dating, the more time you can reach out to me about my car's extended warranty. Dude, I showed the bobs and the jeans to my mom and dad. I'm like, hey, dad, this is what guys my age do now back home. And my dad's like, dude, these kids are fucking losers. This is why the birth rate's going to drop, because these guys have no fucking riz. Like, Jesus Christ. The riz. Jesus Christ, man.

Let's go back to the superpower. You're leaving. You're leaving that one back. I know. It's like Eli, stop. Eli, stop. Like, bro, that's like my negative superpower. In order to get invisibility, I have to scream Bob's and Vagina out in public. I have to self-immolate myself in the public, like socially, in order to fucking do that. At least you're not doing it to me.

I'll say that I have like kind of strong beliefs like for people I don't know my background like Islamic background like you can probably figure that up on my name if you're watching So I have care for the people there, but it's like I made this so like weeks ago very middle like hey here I

I did, yeah. Like, my whole thing was like, so this was a period where, like, Hasan Piker, a big, popular communist socialist commentator, and, you know, somebody... A rich communist... Very rich, very rich guy. And the thing is, I'm on, like, good terms. Like, I'm on good terms with a lot of people, but, like, he made a take where he was like, after streaming for, like, 12 hours, my batteries get drained. And I was just like, I don't really agree. Like, I worked in a fucking 60-hour work week where it was like, bro, you come home from work, it's like, dude, I want to...

out, right? Like, fuck that shit. You're a veteran too. Yeah, pretty much. I'm an honorary veteran. That is so much in common. But like, even with his situation, it's like, I'm just sitting over there. I'm like, dude, this is...

To be a YouTuber and streamer, like a podcaster, bro, we have like the most blessed job in existence. Like if I didn't do like a nine to five every day. Best job ever. Best job ever. You know what my days are like? Like it's thankful to a lot of people that watch me. It's waking up, scratching my fucking ass and going like, damn, I want to talk about some crazy shit today. Right. Like that's the best job in existence. Right. So.

You know, I get it. You're streaming for 12 hours a day. You probably don't want to fucking say hi to anybody afterwards, right? But it's like, dude, that is the kind of social optics you probably never want to have. So anyways, out of all that, like his fan base, and I'm not blaming him for it. Like fan bases are different. His fan base is like, what do you think about like Palestine? You haven't said anything about it. And I'm like, dude, what do you want me to do? Fucking like be the fucking peace, like the guy they send in the Middle East to like discuss peace. I'm like, get out of here. So I made like a discord meme. It took like five minutes.

because, you know, I'm playing a match of siege and like got a whole surprisingly playing a fucking game of siege. And, you know, we're talking about peace talks. Mudahar becomes ambassador to Lebanon. And like I posted like literally 100000 likes, like everyone enjoys it. But it's like a whole bunch of people like, how could you not say anything? And I'm like, dude, you guys are with flags in the bio talking about Palestine. I'm like and I like throw up a receipt from like weeks ago. I'm like, I gave 10 grand to

to like Palestinian charities, right? Like the UN, like a charities. Cause I'm like, that's more worth it. But you have to make sure your charity goes to the right place. So it's like you spend time. And like, for me, charity is like, I do. Dude, you take it so serious, which is super fucking awesome. I spend, I want to say like virtue signal.

Like for me, it's like the receipts, if I could tabulate them up every year, you know, like the like during COVID, I probably gave away $200,000 of charity. And it was like out of my personal accounts. I don't write any of this off for taxes because I don't believe in writing off charity for tax. I think it's a pretty shitty thing to do. Well, for me, it's like the more money you can write off, the more money you can keep from the government and spend it better.

putting it toward more charity. The money that I probably put towards charitable organizations is always like... It's meant mostly for me and my personal stuff, and I don't make a big stink out of it because I don't think you should be doing charity solely for... There's a difference between doing a charity and being socially aware about it. You guys do veteran stuff, which is like you're raising the awareness, you're talking about it, but this is like... Didn't mean shit to me, apparently. I mean, you clearly fucking hate veterans. I don't want to fucking...

I don't care if you get a billion dollars. It doesn't matter. It's all right. You donate a billion dollars like Brandon really hates. That just proves that the internet. It just feels like that fucking meme or the video of like the rock giant like holding back the fucking rock. You're just like getting arrows in the back. You're like, fuck this shit, man. Whatever. No, that just proves that the internet isn't real life.

Like no matter how much good we do, because I've donated like like tens of thousands of dollars to, you know, police charities and stuff like that. Yeah. But it's never good time per video. You do that every like. Can we talk about like when there's an officer involved in a shooting that gets injured, Cody's.

You're donating half of your ad revenue or ad read for that. And it's like tens of thousands of dollars. Every time that happens, you're like, I want to take care of these guys. I want to take care of these guys. Yeah. But it just proves the internet isn't real. Like it's not real life. So he's donating all this money. I'm donating this money. Like we all donate money to these, you know, these causes, but it's never good enough. It's never good enough for the internet. Um,

And they will shit on us so hard. But where's your profile pic? I swear to you, bro. I truly believe you hate my notes. No, when I posted a receipt, it was like a bunch of quote tweets. It was like, bro, you're only doing this because people called you out. I'm like, dude, it was made weeks ago. I'm just doing this to show you this versus a flag in the bio does a lot more. Paying for eight supplies is a lot more.

Does a lot more. But, like, the only reason I don't ever, like, talk about it is because, like, I always believe that there's, like, at least for this situation, there was a very serious component to it that I didn't feel educated about. So I'm like, I'm not going to... And, like, to be real, like, my closest friend, Corey, like, his, you know, and, like, a lot of my close friends, like, even Nux, for instance, on my podcast, he's, like, he's got situations where, like...

Family members are dying in a situation. So I'm like, dude, I understand there's like a really serious part to this. And it's like, I'm not going to sit here and pretend to play this like it's team sports, right? Like it's a fucking baseball team versus another baseball team. There's a really complicated topic. So, you know, and the weirdest part is like asking somebody who's like a fucking gamer, deep web browser, like internet guy, like.

To ask them about this, it's like, bro, you just want somebody to validate your opinions in the world, right? That's it. If I gave you an opinion and it wasn't for you, then all that mattered was I didn't validate your worldview and that's all that it came down to. And now you're angry about it because you didn't validate it. Which, like, talking to you last night, it was an awesome experience because...

Again, YouTube is your secondary. You're like, this is what I care for your businesses. You have multiple and you're like, Oh, I do this on the side. We didn't even talk about that shit last night. It was like everything else you do. And then a little bit of the research for 401Cs and, uh, or whatever the charity thing. Yeah. 501C. It's like, it's doing the charity work. And then you deep diving into it. Cause we talked about, I was like, man, there's some veteran charities out there. You would have a blast with the show.

how they fuck shit up royally or just spend it on. I don't know. And that's one of the biggest lies with charity groups is like there's, you have to be very careful about what charity group you get behind because the vast majority don't spend the money where you think.

The vast majority, you know, I would say, honestly, from my experience, the vast majority spend it on salaries, on board members, on all sorts of stuff, on advertising for the charity to bring more money into it so they can spend more on board seats and whatever. What do you call it? It's a nightmare. We call it a 90-10 charity, so 90% goes to admin fees and 10% goes to the actual charity. Because for the people that are deciding where the money goes, they want a job.

It's fucking insane. It's like you think you're curing cancer, but at the end of the day, all you're doing is inflating a bunch of people who are really good at talking about cancer. It's just... It's like... So months ago, I covered this guy called The Completionist, right? Like, this was a well-beloved, like, gaming YouTuber, like, made... His whole gimmick was, like, I play video games to 100%, whatever. Like, this guy's one of the second-generation OG YouTubers. This is not, like... Yeah, this is, like, John Cron-era gaming YouTuber. Yeah, but...

Massive, like massive and beloved. And then... But have we heard from his wife as to whether or not she was a completionist? I... Yeah, that's a hundred percent of that one. Yeah.

His whole situation was so weird because it's like he was one of the like one guys like usually I'm covered I'm like I cover guys like Logan Paul and shit who were like unanimously like disliked by our community So it's like it's pretty easy to like socially gain capital off of it Like if people want to like go to the most negative route of why you're covering a video it's like

oh, you're only covering this guy to gain viewership or something. I'm like, yeah, he's probably the easiest target, but this guy's like...

well beloved or whatever right so what happened was this speed running like youtuber by the name of carl jobst you guys probably know as he's like a really like in-depth guy that covers speed running uh really beloved by the community for his investigative reporting he calls me like one night on like discord he's like bro i got this crazy story about this guy in a charity situation and i'm like by the way this is like 11 o'clock at night i'm like

All right, because you're Carl, I'll believe you. Let me get into a call right now. Fuck sleep right now. So I get into this call with him, and he's like this completionist dude. It's crazy how much business nowadays is done on Discord, by the way. Dude, it's literally the fucking Illuminati of the internet. Everyone converges on that shit. But yeah, he brings up the story to me, this charity fundraising event.

And he's like, bro, like somebody tipped him off and it was anonymous. Like it has to be anonymous. So he got tipped off. And then we started looking through IRS public filings. So this guy raised $660,000 in like U.S. like currency for this charity.

his like his charity, Lee open hand foundation over, over what period? Over around nine to 10 years. So that was raised a decade, a day. And this guy's been like, when we say this, this guy existed before, maybe like before Cody, before, like this is an OG. I ever started making any fucking money.

Yeah, 2010-ish, 11, YouTuber, right? Yeah. Like, he's an OG fucking YouTuber. And, like, yeah. And loved in the community. And these guys are, like, the Jesus Christ of YouTube, right? Like, you can't... If you're going to go up against people like this, you better fucking make sure... And that's why I said to, like, Carl, I say this to, like, coffee's all I say, I say this to everyone I work with, I'm like, you got to have your T's crossed, your I's dotted, because when you're going up against Jesus Christ...

bro, you gotta make sure if you're calling somebody like a fucking fake veteran or like, you know, you better make sure you have everything on the table. The fuck did you grab me for, dude? Well, I mean, well, like, well, like, so we were cool, man.

I mean, I mean, but like he brings up the story. I even showed you Bob's and Virginia. I got to thank him for that. He made my life. But like he brings up the story to me and I'm like, oh, this is kind of crazy, right? Like, OK, so we look through public IRS documentation and the guy raises money, but he never contributes a dime of it.

So I'm like, all right, listen. So he doesn't contribute it or report it personally. Well, he reports it publicly. Like he raised the money, but he doesn't like you have to in the IRS filing. But on his own income, he doesn't report it. He doesn't report it. But like in the IRS filing, like there's a contribution like line where you have to tell how much money you gave to a charity.

So in these public streams, these public indie land streams that he's doing, he has these public events where he's bringing big developers and people. He's like, I'm raising money for the Alzheimer's Foundation, literally naming actual charities. Because it was his mom, right? Well, so the whole charity was built in honor of his mother. So, okay, full context. The charity that I'm talking about that he had was the Open Hand Foundation. And the Open Hand Foundation was built because his mother passed away through Alzheimer's.

And that was why it was built. So when Carl brought the story to me, I'm like, dude, this guy built a charity in his mother's name. Like, I believe a lot of pessimistic shit, but this is a lot. So when we looked through IRS filings, 10 years, not a single dollar was given. So we're just like, I'm sitting there. I'm like, there's got to be a method to the madness, right?

So Carl's like, he's willing to go with the story. I'm like, hold on, Carl, let's get him on a call first. Let's talk to him about it. So we get him on like a call. And so the timeline for it is like 2 p.m. I'm like, hey, Gerard, the completionist, are you ready for a call? He's like, yeah, give me a few hours. So we give him a few hours. In my head, I'm like, he's probably talking to a lawyer. He's not going to take this call. It's a lost cause. But surprise, a la Intervented, he was like, he's going to take the fucking call.

So I'm like, all right, sure. Okay. Which probably cut off. That was a weird surprise, too. Like, he actually took it. Because that's that weird balance where, like, you're not going to take the call if you're like. Dude, if I was doing some fucked up shit and a lawyer, I would call my lawyer. I'm like, hey, should I take a call with my fucking YouTubers? My lawyer would be like, fuck no. He deep dives everything. Six million subscribers want to know right now. So, like, his lawyer was just like.

I guess his lawyer was like, yeah, it's cool. Take the fucking call. So he takes the call. And me and Carl are playing like good cop, bad cop and shit. And admittedly, I'm like too nice in this situation. Bro, he admits to everything. The money is fucking there. It's never donated. I'm like, bro, you're committing actual charitable fraud, right? And like we recorded this whole hour and a half call. We released a series of videos. He makes the shittiest response in YouTube fucking history. Like we're talking like, bro.

I watched OompaVille, a prior guest of the podcast. I've watched his video on it, and my God. I don't even know the response. So I'm looking forward to this. Dude, with OompaVille, like when I, like, so. You and Oompa are friends. Me and Oompa are friends. He's my podcast co-host on the Some Ordinary Podcast. We're great homies. When I brought the situation up, like, people don't understand. We're like crackheads on the internet, right? Like, people will look at me and be like, this guy just fucks around and talks about stupid shit.

But we like say what you will. I know a fair bit about business taxes and like charities and like how to report shit and like how to move money around. Right. Like when you say you're going to donate to a charity, do it. Then I donate to the fucking charity. So me and Oompa were like, really, really like thousand IQ plays.

Bro, he brings up this, so like this completionist guy after a month of reporting on him brings out this shitty response where he's like, I'm going to threaten to sue these guys. I'm like, well, fucking do it. I don't care. Like, you know that I got the money to fucking take you to court. Let's fucking go. And then,

He brings no receipts to the table. No actual receipt. So I watched his response video at like 1 in the morning. Bro, I'm fucking... I'm harder than a fucking priest on fucking Sunday, okay? I'm ready to go. Okay, I'm ready to invade. Right?

Okay? Because it is the shittiest response in history. Okay, I'm ready. I'm ready to breach in, okay? Really, you should look into it. I'm like ready to breach into the... I'm like a fucking full... Like...

I'm like, this is the shittiest sponsor. I'm like about to breach in. This guy gave me every in, provided no receipt, no nothing. The guy still hasn't provided any receipt whatsoever. It's like the guy amassed donation money, didn't give it away. And then like his community, who's like a bunch of children, it's like, well, you're farming like drama. I'm like, last I checked, financial scams were not drama. They were like, people go to jail for this shit, right?

And it's the same thing I say to like any influencer stuff too. It's like one of my favorite types of content is working with people like coffee, Carl on like financial scans, because it's like as somebody in this space and I'm not going to say that I'm like Logan Paul money, like I'm not a billionaire or anything or close to it, but I've done well for myself. And I can always say, I'm like, listen, you can get by without scamming the fucking audience. Right? Like Jesus Christ.

Speaking of which, have you signed up for our live show?

VIP preferred, you know, if that's not sold out yet. I think it might be sold out. It's probably sold out. You crazy bitches always buy that shit. Like they launch it, it's like done. It's the first time any of the venues are like, yo, what the fuck? That was a joking plug, by the way. I didn't want to jump into that when we were talking about financial scams, Eli. Oh God, I'm sorry. Nevermind. No, but that's what Eli does. I put Eli in the sales mode and he's just like, oh wait, by the way.

No, but that's why I like, I like, like, that's why I like, I wanted to take the time to come out for you guys. Like I was supposed to come out for like range day a while ago, but usually like times kind of line up with like work from my end. Like my like quarter four is pretty fucked up, but that's why I like you guys. Cause it's like, you're the only few influencers that I know that aren't like running NFTs or crypto scams, right? Like if I saw a crypto donut coin, I'd be like, fuck this guy.

I would have also said that. No, I mean, this group of boys is pretty straightforward with everything we do. We just want to make content. We want to help veterans.

Brandon's like, "You guys aren't helping. Are you friends? 'Cause it doesn't feel like you're friends on this side of the line." That was what I rolled over this morning, and I saw the fucking thumbnail you wanted to put on the Zapp episode. "Brandon hates veterans!" I'm like, "You guys are- fuck. Go fuck yourself." I know that Cody's like,

We haven't used red eyes in a while. That was the only note. That was the only fucking note on the thumbnail. I was like, oh, I love it. Just give Zach red eyes so you know he's serious. I was like, Brian is not giving notes. It worked.

Brandon and I were listening to it on the way over here. Our last podcast with veteran with a sign. Wonderful person. Please follow him. Zach's an amazing human. I love him. That podcast is really funny. Even if he's a veteran, I still like him. You don't want to know what Brandon said behind the scenes. But, you know, we don't talk about it. I saw the poster. I know how fucked up he is. Have you seen the mailers yet? Yeah.

Zach's stories and sitting around telling veteran stories between everyone, it was fun. That was a really fun podcast. That was a good episode. Stories like Zach's where it's just easy. We were talking about that, I think, last night. He was asking how the podcast was running. It was pretty much...

A couple of subjects, and then everyone just bounces off of each other instantly. The worst podcast I've been on where it's like the fucking hosts are like the goddamn SS, bro. It's like we got a Google Doc, and we got to stick with it, boys. You deviate, and they're like, this doesn't align with the algorithm. I'm like, what the fuck, dude? We're supposed to be boys drinking and having a good time. Who the fuck?

Crazy concept. That describes... No, it was just like fucking... It was just like the discussions of podcasts that we were having internally. It's like we were looking at how other podcasts were doing it. It's like...

the few that one of our producer brought out too is like, there's like, we got to have like crazy Google docs and like links and hyperlinks. I'm like, I think that we're looking at like the H3 podcast, I think, because the way that they do it is like super like to a T, you know, which I guess works. It's like having a structural burr.

Like having a structure helps, but it's like Bill Burr on that podcast was fucking hilarious. Have you seen that episode? The Bill Burr, like H3H3 and the Bill Burr. It's like, that was the one where you got to see Bill Burr be Bill Burr. Cause he's done it multiple times, even on Theo Vaughn, watching him tear apart Theo. And even Theo, Theo is fucking hilarious. But you see even him like meeting him, his idol and not going into it with the shit. Like Bill Burr was the only guest that,

I think all of the other guys, we've got to find out what he hates and not discuss that because he hates compliments. And that is one of the biggest things. Like, do not compliment if he's on your show. He just seems like one of the boys. But at the end of the day, like if Bill Burr decides he fucking hates you, you're fucked. You cannot win that battle of wits. It's just not going to fucking happen. It's tough to be in like, because like, I understand like a whole point of structure and everything, but it's like,

I feel like the more YouTube becomes kind of like a thing, like a normal thing in society, it's like... I feel like this platform succeeds when people don't take too much of a corporate look at it. And it's kind of weird because I'm saying it like we do run YouTube channels kind of like a business.

But I think the reality of it is, like, you still have to have that parasocial, like, not parasocial, but you still have to, like, kind of be your person. Like, you have to be a real person. Because the only way people stick to you and watch you is if you're a real human being versus, like, some character that's presenting themselves. Because at that point, you've just got TV. You've got, like, you know, film or, like, personalities. Like, nobody cares about that shit or anything. And that's why, like, for anything that I do, even for, like, videos or, like, podcast stuff, it's like...

Having a baseline structure is okay, but it's like, even for videos, it's like I Google Doc my stuff just so I don't get lost in the stuff that I say. But other than that, it's like...

Be a real person. Otherwise, nobody's going to watch you. And I have like this one rule when I'm like editing the videos together because I always edit my own stuff. Like when I edit it, I'm like... You still edit your own shit? I do it because like I know how to do it. Like I have a whole system for it. Like when I record stuff, I have a script that like auto aligns, auto sets up, pre-edits everything. And then I just do the final stuff myself. But I do it because like I've hired editors in the past who are like...

They try to make it look so fucking flashy. And I'm like, that's not my video, right? Like, my video is just a fat Indian guy sitting on a fucking computer talking about shit. Have you tried going to Fiverr? Dude, like, well, if I go to Fiverr, I just have my own guy. Like, what the fuck? Do the accent. If I go to Fiverr, I'm like... You end up taking a Fiverr gig for your own video? You're like, oh...

You're the man. You're talking back. I like, I like write the email. I read, I read the email. I walk away. I'm like, what's that thing doing? No, but it's like, it's like even with like, like hiring an editor, like anytime I hired an editor, they like always go to like that deep. It's like every editor that I hire is like from the fucking state of like California. It's like, bro, I got to hire, I got to get like fucking crazy stock footage. I'm like, dude, it's like every, this is a discussion I've had with editors. I'm like, it's a literal discussion. I'm like,

I'm a fat Indian guy recording videos on the internet. Okay. That's all you need, right? Like, bro, you don't need to have like the fucking CGI. This is not Marvel. Okay. Like this is YouTube. Chill the fuck out. I need to build an after effects logo. It's so crazy. Like dudes will come up with the craziest effects and I'm like, I can do this faster than you. So fuck you. I'm not going to,

bother paying you. I can do this in half your fucking time and call it a day. And like, honestly, for me, like YouTube is like, again, that side like job. So it's like, I can sit down. It's, it's really like a relaxing thing, right? Like come home from a, like, no, I wouldn't say like my job is a shitty nine to five. I enjoy my job. It's just coming home from it. It's like, you work a lot. Legitimately still have a nine to five. Yeah. Dude, he works an hours and hours. That's what, like, this is why I respect it. How many subs do you have on YouTube? Uh, I think like three point.

4 or 5 million or something? I don't know. 3.5 million. We'll say that. And you're still doing multiple...

Nine to fives where you're running different businesses. You were talking about. Yeah, I'm the CEO of our own company. Like I'm the CEO of like our own group. We do a lot of like property and like asset investment around where we live. We're getting into construction and everything, too. So it's like for us, like our job is my job is a nine to five every day. Like this is my day every day. Like I wake up in seven o'clock. I was telling you yesterday. I'm like, I usually go to bed by 10. I wake up at like seven.

Get ready for meetings. Get ready for fucking work. That's why I talked about the Hassan stuff. I'm like, bro, you want to talk about social battery? Like seven is when I get up. I got to be in meetings every fucking day. My work day doesn't end until like 4 p.m. That's when I get like a chance to open up the Premiere Pro project file for the video. And I get to work on that. And then I get to upload that a day later. Like it's fucking insane. Well, it's like even more is you upload how many videos a week? A day. Like I upload it every day.

This is why I always tell people, you would be an individual. It's like, hey, you're welcome. We would hire you any day of the week. You're good. You don't need that. I don't believe in days off. I literally can't believe in a day off. I feel guilty. Anytime I take a fucking day off, I

I genuinely have like an underlying feeling of guilt. No, I know what you mean. You go crazy. Yeah. Like, okay. I do something. Like my phone's always available. You're lazy. Yeah. Like when I fly out and do anything, like if I'm in like LA or whatever, you could ask like Jen, like any of this shit. It's like when I'm like out there having fun, I'm always like on my phone. I'm always like jittery. Cause I'm like, I'm, I want to do work. Like I really do like enjoy doing work. Like any day that I don't feel like I do my job. Yeah.

fucking cry about it. I'm like, this fucking sucks. Yeah, dude. I'll like grab my PlayStation 5 controller and I'll sit on the couch. I'm like, oh, I'm going to have a nice relaxing night. Like last night, I was wanting to play Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth. Such a good game. And I sat down and I was like, no, I need to go work. And I went upstairs and started typing up a script for my next video. And that's like the difference. And we always talk about every once in a while, it is...

we work nine to fives during coming up into whatever space has or you're still successful with 3.5 million in I can't say that I work on nine to five because I do own my business. So it wouldn't be as I was making sure that like, like you at least like the venture you call nine to five, like you still own it. Yeah, I'm a CEO. Group. Yeah.

I feel like that actually puts us at a negative disposition where we have to work more at it because we do own it. Because if anything, if any time anything catches fire, we have to be the ones to put it out.

It's like the same thing when I talked about it, like even on Twitter weeks ago, like some guy was like, how do you enjoy being a capitalist and profiting off of the efforts of your other people? I'm like, bro, I would love to make my company a co-op if people were willing to do like loss participation or something of that sort, right? Like nobody will. Like everyone enjoys it when their money gets like,

Everyone loves it when their banking app sees plus green, like I got this much money. Nobody likes it when it's in the middle of January, February, the worst part of the fucking business ecosystem, and you're looking at negatives and the reds and the problems and all the drama that goes with it. It's lost subsidization is what it is at the end of the day. It's like everybody wants to be part of the gamble. It's like, oh, we can only win? Oh, that's great. But if we can lose too? Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. I just want paid.

I mean, like I always say this much. I'm like when I started like my initial investment, like I had to invest like six figures into something, which back in the day that was genuinely like make it or break it money for me. You know, it's like.

For me, like back in the day, like $100,000 was like, that's all the money I had to name, you know, like literally everything. Yeah. Like I saved that money over the course of living like a fucking like goblin. Like I had nothing. And I'm just like, dude, I can either spend this money on nice things. A ground Jew. Yeah.

Yeah, literally. As specifically Rich High, the angry cops would say. As Rich High would say. Yeah, it's like, you know, but then like, you know, we took the effort and like risking on ourselves, investing, and then like, look, business is, it's a gamble. It's like going to Vegas. Like you can either succeed or you can fucking fail spectacularly. So luckily we succeeded. I'm not going to say there isn't like a survivorship bias to it, but it's like, dude,

Like we work hard at what we do. We make good money and it does require like a real solid sacrifice into doing it. Right. Like there's days where dude, there's days where I'm like, man, I wish I sometimes I look at like some of the compatriots and like the YouTube game and I'm like, dude, you guys are doing what? Like going to fucking Vegas and LA and like partying. I'm like, man, I fucking wish, but I'm fucking working. You know, I got to work. Okay. I got to make sure that I have that fucking stability in the future. Right. Especially in the mainstream YouTube game.

Yeah. And that, that, what you just said, the lucky part of that drives me fucking crazy. Cause so many people, Oh, you're lucky. You're lucky. This you're lucky. That's like, no, you don't see the fucking work that goes into this. Like the amount of work that some of us have to put, like we do our own scripts for the longest time. Like we edited our own videos and like years, years.

It culminates to years of experience where we're able to do this, where we're fortunate enough to be in a position where we can hire other people to do the jobs that we know how to do. And it's even tough to hire other people too because once you've been doing something, you're like so fucking anal about what your video is supposed to be. Like you talked about mentioning scripts, but it's like I'm sure it's difficult for you to hire people for scripts too because you're like my videos have been made

in such a specific way for so long that it's like you better match my style to a T otherwise it took me so long just to hire an editor yeah it took a year it took six years before I hired an editor I pushed you into fucking hiring an editor and I've been looking for a writer for two years I haven't found one yeah I'm looking for a fucking writer now yeah

Well, if you think you're a good writer, we would. Yeah, guys. But all jokes aside, like literally, like you need somebody who can flawlessly imitate your style that you can, again, craft after the fact. But you also, you know, you're saving 80% of your time by then, you know, being able to work it in yourself. Yeah, it worked out. It got to the point where like the only editor I could find because I fucking dude, I've hired like six editors over the years.

And like a couple of them were like, oh, I can't look at police killing people. But but I finally found one. And I don't want to look at murder for a minute. It was one of Mr. Beast's former editors. And that's my editor now.

And you're like, hey, this actually works. But it took you years to get there. And still, he's like, you still edit your videos, refining the craft during your nine to five. I remember looking at my... I'm lucky to be able to edit it because that's a knowledge base that I've had. So I think it's a little bit different because it's like, I know how to properly optimize and edit the flow. If I didn't know how to edit videos, I'd definitely fucking hire an editor. But I feel bad for GVM because he has me as his.

Usually for me, it's like, yeah. Color corrections off. Why is... That's not Color Master. I've seen you be a boss to G-Van. I'm like, fuck, man. I don't even know how to do that shit. That's... I remember editing my own videos on fucking Windows Movie Maker back in the day. It's like, I've been doing this shit for over a decade. I know how... We all kind of have a background. I think that's what separates the good YouTubers from the fucking wannabe YouTubers, right? We talk about how...

Look, I'm going to I'm going to give like fucking people credit for saying that this is like a hard job in a way, because it can be a hard job because you don't turn yourself off. Right. Like you're always on the Internet. You're always looking. You're always signed on. Right. It's not this. This whole career is not a nine to five where you chalk out at 5 p.m. and like you can turn your brain off.

That said, however, it is a very fruitful, rewarding career if you manage to make it very successful. That does mean that you put a lot of work into it. You put a lot of effort into it. And, you know, for some people, it's like that effort doesn't pay off at all or it pays off in fucking massive dividends and you got stuff like this going on. Yeah.

So it is one of those things. But I would say at the end of the day, what you're looking at is a dream job if you can make it absolutely work. Right. And, you know, it is a job that you'll learn a lot about the whole industry. You learn about every aspect of it in like tandem as you do it. Right. Like if you start off doing YouTube for the right reasons, you learn your script writing, you learn your editing, you learn your fucking public, you learn your social media, you pick up so many skills along the way. Right.

That even if it's so many, so many, even if it doesn't work, like thumbnails specifically, like, like,

I don't give a fuck. I just stretch my ass on the thumbnail and call it a day. Well, I mean, hiring a thumbnail editor, it's like, dude, how the fuck do you explain what a good thumbnail is? It's all instinct. Dude, I don't have the instinct for it. I went up to it. I went up to a thumbnail editor on discord that like fucking talk shit about me. So there was a thumbnail where I like stretched my ass on the fucking thumbnail, like literally goat seed myself. And I'm like, this is going to fucking do more numbers than what you have.

And it did. It was me. It was a fucking crazy CTR. I'm sitting there, and it's like, you could hire me for thumbnail work. I'm like, hold on there, chief. I can do better than you. I sent him a thumbnail of me stretching my ass on the camera, literally for the video, right? It was a video about getting fucked by...

I'm like, it made sense. It wasn't out of nowhere. I stretched my ass. I'm like, this is going to fucking boy or day review and stretching your asshole. Like part of me, I'm like, I'm going to do this. And it's like, it's not going to do, it's not going to do my numbers. And I'm like, Oh, what's your numbers. Okay. Give me your percentage.

fucking doubled that dude's percentages like the next day. I'm like, get the fuck out of here. To this day, I still do my own thumbnails. Like on my phone. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah. I will sit there for like fucking 30 minutes before a video goes up. I'm like, shit, I got to Photoshop a thumbnail real quick. And like, I still do everything. The last one you just read it and you're like, I had like 30 layers on this one.

Yeah, no, I straight up have a Photoshop app on my phone that I just like, you know, whether it's PNG assets or whatever for like blood splatter, I'm like, I have a vision that I'm like, I know this will do well with the title thumbnail I've got in mind. Because like, that's just how we have to think. Oh, yeah. Whether your content's good or not, if your thumbnail and title is ass, nobody will ever watch it.

Yeah, we have in our group chat, like we throw each other's thumbnails around and we all like ideate for 24 hours over like how we should do this thumbnail to make it better. That's why you don't want to do YouTube guys. Like, holy shit, this is what you're doing on a Friday night sharing thumb. We're fucking, we're bitching about this. This is basically just like bitching about taxes to the fucking audience here. It's just like, oh yeah, fuck.

You had to learn taxes to a degree you would not want to learn taxes. When it comes to the audience, it's like I'm so thankful for the people that watch us at the end of the day. Best community ever. Yeah, like you guys. Best job I ever had. And this is why I love coming down to here for you guys. This is why when you told me, can you make it? I'm like, dude, I told you January to March. I'm fucking free like a bird.

I'm here. So like, you know, the community is what makes us, I'm always eternally thankful to the people that ultimately watch us and take their time out of their day. Like this is the best answer we have to like anything mainstream media wise. Like the only reason I watched like donut you in the first place was because like police footage for me was interesting to look at. Like,

I'm a guy that watches like crazy shit all the time on like r slash narco footage, like about the wildest shit in the world. Right. So for me, you came up in my feed one day and I was like, oh, let me watch this guy shooting breakdowns. And I'm like, oh, this is a guy that's not like overly like.

about one side. He's not like a virtue signal. It's like a normal, like it's like a fucking ex-swat guy talking about crazy shit. So I'm like, I want to learn about this. I want to talk about it. That's the beauty of like the world we're in because you can get these crazy wild perspectives from people that normally probably wouldn't have a platform in like the mainstream circle. But now we're like watched by millions of people. So I enjoy that kind of shit. And then like through you, I like,

learned about you, Brandon. I learned about the entire circle here. And I was like, I like these guys are super cool. They're super like fucking awesome. And I don't know what that, like the, the world of social media and the communities we build, we probably wouldn't ever have that stuff. Right. Like you guys had like Turkey, Tom and all those kinds of people on like last week. And they were super cool people that in a normal, like vacuum wouldn't have that community. But now that they do, you know, it's really like a, it's really like a fuck you to like a lot of the mainstream media angle where it's like, yep.

You know, we don't have people that like to cut off other people like, oh, you don't you don't believe exactly what we believe. Therefore, we can't talk to you ever. This I love I like breaking down, breaking down those barriers. They're like, I never expected this crossover. You see it all the time. Well, this podcast was interesting. Like so to give context, right? Like I'm pretty neutral when it comes to a lot of like political stances and

And for me, it's like I've always been open about knowing Donut. I've always been open about it. I'm like, oh, I've referenced in videos. I'm like, oh, I watched the Donut Operator breakdown and things like that. I'm like, he's a cool dude. And generally, the community is fine about it. But the thing about anything coming onto this podcast or coming onto anything is you always have a really fringe group of people that have a weird perception of you guys, right? Like where...

Like, even when I came on here, it's like the day before, it's like, bro, you're on like the crazy alt-right, like Nazi podcast. I'm like, dude, I don't give a fuck. How many times have you mentioned that? Hosted by two Mexicans. I'm like, dude, how many times have you brought up the Jews? Really? I'm like, I can't be on a Nazi podcast. I'm with the fucking veteran hater for crying out loud. Oh, fuck off. Medal of Honor recipient. It's like the seventh fucking time. Fuck off. Fuck off.

But it's like, you know, I'm on here. I have like, yeah, like I have like, you know, it's like we're in a group of like normal level headed people. We're like good guys. We're, I don't know. It's the Internet is a weird place. I'm glad that it can. We have a place where we can have like people from every angle expressing an opinion and we can all like interact with each other. Right. Like at the end of the like what I've always said, what I said is like we as human beings, you can't agree on every single thing.

You can't like there's in this table right now, if you brought up a really heated topic, you're going to disagree. I'm going to agree. You're going to disagree. You're going to agree, right? Like that's going to be a thing, but that's like human, like that's like, that's like normal life.

You know, people agree and disagree, but at least we're all able to have a conversation and talk to each other and have like civil discourse. And then you actually get each other's point of views at a where I'm not like, fuck you. That's not actually. I think that's I think that's something that separates super successful people is because even earlier today, it's like we were talking about topics that we disagreed on.

Things that we would probably like, you and I would probably not see eye to eye on. Yeah. But we can hear the other party out, listen to everything the other person says, and

And say, like, okay, well, I understand why you would believe that, but here's why I disagree with it. And not at the end of the day. Like, we can disagree on something without wanting the other person to die in a hole. Yeah, like, people, like, listen, you guys probably... I've always said, like, if you want to get into, like, my politics or something like that, I'm probably a little, like, center-leftish or something. That's probably where you want to get into. Like, I'm a little baby Democrat in a way, too. That's just how I guess I've been raised. And it's kind of the standard thing for, like, an immigrant or something, but it's just...

You know, when I was coming to this show, it's like, it's funny because people are always like, yeah, Brandon Herr is like a fucking Nazi or like donut operator. He said the N word one time or something. I never did. I'm like, and that's the thing, when that was brought up, when that was brought up, I'm like, what World of Warcraft session was this in? All right, you got to tell me. I love all the, like, it is the fake shit that comes to, it just comes out. It's like...

We've heard it multiple times without saying anything. It's like fucking how he covered George Floyd. I never even talked about George Floyd once. Not once. But the internet will just run with whatever persona or story they heard, and then that's the narrative. And you're like, bro, that was never brought up a single time. Yeah, they hear one thing from one person. They're like, oh, okay.

I hate that guy. It's how they want to paint you out as this is a problem, right? And it's like the one of the big things, like I come onto the show and what's beautiful is I'm glad that you guys invited me on the show because I've never had like anybody from like, I guess, quote unquote, the other camps ever invite me on their stuff because...

maybe I'm too, a little bit too toxic or maybe a little bit too edgy. It doesn't really matter. But I like coming onto this one because even if we like disagree on like a few things, like at the end of the day, we can be like friends and have a fucking beer together or something. And you know, crazy. It's so wild to have that discussion, right? Like I, I, this is why I like you guys, your guys' content. It's like,

You can have disagreements, but at the end of the day, we're still friends. We still agree. Like it's, it's literally like the pre 2012 of the internet when like people again could disagree and still fucking have a beer together. Now it's like, you have to be like an extreme no matter what. And that's just, unfortunately for some people like their normality, which is super fucking weird to me. We call that desire.

Yeah, we... Dude, when, like, on Twitter, when we have our range days, we invite everyone out. Dude, I had shit for hanging out with Wendigoon, dude. And Caleb. Which is ridiculous. Like, both of those... I love shit about my son. LAUGHTER

No, it's crazy. Like Caleb's like our podcast co-host for the Some Ordinary Podcast. Not Windigoom, but Oompa. Oompaville, Caleb, yeah. So Sour Boys, GG, fucking brilliant dude. He's like a great friend of mine. Amazing fucking human. One of my favorite humans. Like that dude is like a brother, you know, to the day I die, right? And people are like, yeah, this guy, it's like,

alt-right Nazi pipeline type shit. And I'm like, never did I get that a single time from hanging out with that dude. You know what's funny about Caleb Mufaville's pre-podcast recording when he's not tied up with Sour Boys, he's like the most fucking courteous, normal, rational, level-headed guy ever. And he's probably one of the reasons why I came onto this podcast because he's like, bro, I love fucking, I love the unsub guys. And I'm like, I know you do. I like them too. Like, what the fuck? It is what it is. Caleb's one of my favorites.

It's like with Donut. I say, I like your stuff, and it's like, you like that racist? And I'm like, what, because he's like a fucking cop, I guess? Sure, cool. He breaks it because he has a non-biased approach to breaking down videos. Have you ever watched the video? Have you watched the actual video uploaded, or are you just saying what you heard over Twitter or something? You sound like a white supremacist. You will remember this is the day I almost became a congressman.

Is it both floating down? You're going to have your opponent's going to be like, he has that Indian white supremacist on. That guy that hates the Indian. Did you see the shit on Twitter this morning with Demo Ranch? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that Republican. It was a black Republican candidate. I think it was two years ago, four years ago, who did like a thing about the Klan. Like basically like, this is why I need 30 rounds is to defend myself from people who hate me.

Like he did like a political ad. It was really good. Like political ad. Like I need 30 rounds because you know, when Klansmen come to my house, I need to protect my family. And, uh, he was just like, Hey bro, like Brandon, you need to do ads like this. And I'm like, my consultant has strictly forbade me from hiring Klansmen in my ads. Yeah.

Bro, at the end of the day, like Muda just said, I wish we could all just sit down, have a beer, and talk to each other. We've talked about it multiple times. We will have any guest on this and rotate them or sitting down side by side. Hey, let's just chat and have fun. We don't talk about dumb shit. We just get along and then normalize these type of conversations where you're like, hey, we don't have to fucking kill each other. You can talk about serious situations. It's just like,

I think adults, like when you talk about like really serious political things, right? Like actual war or anything of that nature. It's like as adults, you should be able to understand like people's perspectives, right? Like you should be able to get along. You should be able to have like a civil discussion. You shouldn't be like screaming. And that's what kids fucking do, right? Like kids screaming, teenagers screaming each other's ears. We're too fucking old to be doing this shit, right? Like I'm the youngest out of you guys. I'm pretty sure like 29, but I can straight up say it's like, I'm younger. Technically younger. Yeah.

Just wrote hard and put away wet. Well, then guess what? We're still too fucking old to be yelling at each other about stupid shit, right? We should be able to have a civil discussion. We should be able to get along. We shouldn't fucking sit on the internet and say America's like the fucking Fourth Reich or something. Yeah.

and go crazy on each other. Yell at each other if they like a bad movie. Like, Brandon's Lord of the Rings sucks. I would scream at Brandon. You want to have a hot cake? No, you want to have a serious discussion? Like, bro, I think Fast and the Furious is the greatest movie series of all time. I'm not going to argue with that. I,

I actually, I'm not going to argue with that because I don't know where to start with that. Okay. I'm so glad you said that. It should be with a lot of politics. I don't know where to start. Tokyo Drift was the best Fast and Furious. Yes. Yes. It was. Actually, I will go sign that. You know, this is why I say the Fast and Furious. Can I get a copy of that? Dave's like, yes.

This is why I say the Fast and the Furious movies are like the fucking best, dude. Like, me and Jen will have this argument. She'll be like, bro, you like a shitty movie series. And I'm like... That 180 was so fucking fast. Just like Tokyo Drift.

No, it's like that movie series is like Jen and I will have this argument. She'll be like, I don't want to watch these movies. They're pretty shit. And I'm like, oh, are you talking about the story being shit? Honey, I knew the stories were fucking dog shit. It had Vin Diesel casted. You think that I ever expected this shit to be good? I watch it because of the cars, the babes, and the guns. That's it. Like, fuck it.

This is the most Indian thing you said all night. I watch it because of babes. The bobs and the vajines. You're facing the lower third. Show cars and vajines. I'm like sitting there. I'm like, I ain't popping a Corona to like fucking the fucking Mazda. I'm popping into the bobs and vajines. Yeah.

Somewhere Steven Spielberg just has a lone tear. I'm like, I don't care. Cinema's dead. See, I don't care about good cinema. I care about the fucking slop they feed me. I think, um.

delicious. If I see a Mustang and a hot babe in a fucking theater room, I'm like, I'm fucking golden. That's good for me. I'm good. I'm peaked right now. I don't give a shit about the Citizen Kane or Kinnamore, like the Dune lore. Mustang, hot babes, AK-47s. Unsubscribe. Well, you know, hey, we're kind of on that same boat. We're on that same boat. Unsubscribe meets Bollywood. Yeah.

We should finance a Bollywood movie, bro. We probably can. We have some projects that we might be able to do that. Do you want to do the banana-flitting-the-throat shit? Yes, we'll go South India-style movies. I love that Bollywood movie. I'm so glad I talked to you about this earlier because it's like, if you have this weird perception of Bollywood, okay, like Bollywood in the North is like they want to try to be like good. Bollywood in the South, they give no fucks, bro. They like got bananas. Bollywood in the South is like anime.

Bro, it's worse than, at least anime makes fucking sense. These dudes are doing heart surgery through like fucking telekinesis. Get the fuck out of here. And then it's slow-mo shot. It's the ones where it's like the slow-mo back and forth, back and forth for like eight minutes. Where it's clearly not actually slow-mo. Yeah. And you're like, they'll stop now. It's like eight minutes later, you're like,

Oh, this is how they film this entire sequence. It's like your first time at Catholic Mass when you hear your eighth Hail Mary. You're like, oh, this is the last one, right? Nope, they're just going to keep going. All right. Man, that priest is hard right now. Sunday, bro. He's ready to go. Brent's like, God damn it. The Mass kicks in. He's like, I'm ready to fucking go, dude. Get that whining. Get those fucking whining crackers out. What?

Was that the episode? Fuck. God damn it. Oh, my God. Okay. Fucking hell. We'll touch on gaming really quick because you are a huge gamer. And we actually. Oh, we were talking about. Yes. Fucking Helldivers. And you're a Halo fan, too. We were nerding out. So he's a Metal Gear Solid fan. I was like, let me show you my Mark 23. I was like, Mark 23. I was like, here, pull these bitches. Between you and I, we have three.

Yeah. Dude, I'll be real. Like, if I didn't know you guys, I'd be fucking planning a burglar or something right now or something, you know, like a really high stakes. I'm glad you know us. Yeah, I'm glad. I'd be dead. It'd be like a fucking, you know, a whole gunfight and everything. But when I saw the Socoma. It's a new congressional fucking controversy is I have to shoot Muda Hara in my living room. Dude, if you do, you can get the camera and be like, I died for the Socoma. I died for something worth living.

Fucking MGS, baby. That's why I love the state of Texas, bro. When I saw that Mark 23, I fucking came mentally, dude. That was the first gun you took a picture of. He was like, I got to show this to my friend. You haven't even seen Brandon's shop yet. He would show me every gun in the book, and I'm like, oh, that's cool. My uncle showed me that before. When I saw the Mark 23, I'm like...

I could die happy holding this. I was like, you know who I sent? I sent this photo to my, my uncle. I'm like, bro, you got to look at this shit. This is like fucking special op shit from back in the day. And he was just like, you're like huge gamer. And then metal gear solid. But then we were talking about hell, hell diver. Cause we're all trying to get on board on that. I just passed the tutorial today. I just downloaded playing it too. I'm like, babe, you fucking started with that. And then,

Clean came over last night really briefly. We were talking about it. And that is ODST. He's a huge ODST fan. And finding out that was supposed to be ODST 2. What? You didn't know that? No. That was what was pitched for ODST 2 for Halo. And Bungie was like, no, it's not going to work. And the developer was like, we pitched this for this fucking game. Which would have been the most dope goddamn game in the world. Bungie, why? Bungie, why? Yeah.

Just fucking ODST like hell. What are they called? The ODST. Helljumpers. They're called Helljumpers in ODST. Go get it. They're literally Helljumpers. And that was the game developed for it. Because they're like, yeah, we're going to jump in the rings. And then you're just fighting the flood. You're fighting the covenant and all this stuff. What's funny too is like Halo...

in itself is kind of like a pun because it's, you know, the halo jumpers, like high altitude, low opening. So it's like that, that was the whole premise is that you're jumping into hell on that shit. So no, but like playing it for the first time, I very quickly realized this is just an unlicensed, uh, Starship troopers game.

With Metal Gear Solid 5 movement. If you guys, did you see it? I showed it to you, remember? Yes, you were the one that showed it. I was like, what? This is the Fox? This is the Fox Die engine? The little fucking running on the ground type shit. The dog drive turned backwards and shoot. It's very intuitive. Now, Saf started playing it last night. I was like, okay, I actually have to. I'm going to download it tonight and actually start running it. Are we going to retake the creek? Cody. Cody.

I'm down. Just start making it. Retake the creep. Dude, I downloaded it. Do you see the fucking meme where it's like, what Helldivers is really about? It's just like all the bros emoting to each other, just like the hugs.

No, I was saying I downloaded it. You guys want to jump on that? Tonight. 100%. I'm going to jump on it. I got it on the Steam Deck, bro. It runs great. Do we all want to play Helldivers tonight? I'm down, dude. We got extra ones. Dude, I'm going to play on the Steam Deck just for the added extra difficulty.

I fucking heard you earlier. You've got everything hot-keyed to the back. I do. I have everything. So that game is... So Helldivers 2, for anybody that doesn't know, they got these crazy...

Grand Theft Auto cheat codes you gotta enter in for like special abilities. Like if you call down a machine gun or like an orbital strike, it's like left, right, left, right, up, down, up, down. Yeah, which is really fucking dope. So that's an added element of stress because you're like, oh, here, call this in because you can call for it. It's not cheat, but it's a cheat code in the number pressing. So you're like, you're getting fucking swarmed. You're like, and then it's like, here is this Konami code. And you're like, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.

Yeah, it's like left, right, left, right, up, down, B, A, stride or something. So what I do on the Steam Deck was I just like map them to like a macro on the back like four keys and it's just like fucking orbital strike. Throw that shit out. God, you're so Indian. He's 18. Dude, I'm like, that's how you know. He's already selling it. That's how you know I'm like genetically like Indian there. I'm like, I got this. Look at my head.

You're our guy in the chair. That's what we're working on. It's like, dude, when you play, like, that's how you know you're Indian. It's like when you're thinking about, like, playing a video game, you're already thinking about the macros and the fucking ways to get ahead and, like, optimizing every single thing. Dude, imagine. I fucking got you guys. I'll send you the codes. Dude, my buddy Kyle was... Can we turn you into Purple Squishy? Bro, my buddy Kyle was... I'm not using the script right now. My buddy Kyle was like... My buddy Kyle, when we started playing that game, he was like, bro, you got to enter cheat codes. I'm like, no, no, no, you know you're darned. You have method of...

It's the only time you speak in the accent. No, no, no. I love speaking in the accent when I'm speaking to another scammer that calls me. So usually when I pick up my phone, it's like, oh, likely spam. I pick up the phone. I'm like, hello, how's it going? Hello.

car warranty oh what car do I own Toyota Camry I see okay I get it I understand like I just fuck with them as long as it takes so I'm like I'm like Kunal I am from the other office in Mumbai you were mistakenly calling me and then we fucking that's about it that's how it works like I fucking hate it's a thing like nothing will make you a self-hater like a fucking scam caller dude like

I get it. Like, I get why people get pissed about Windows 7, like, fucking warranty calls. I get that shit all the time. It's that one meme. It's like, a billion dollars, my Indian accent. Not like other people. Like, no, but you kind of got to get it. It's like, it's like all the doctors and engineers, like, fucking immigrated here, and, like, all we have left back home are the fucking, like, cell phone scammers and shit. So it's like, fuck. It's like, fuck.

It's the fucking pasta strainer. It's like the people who couldn't get a visa. You talk to the Indian guy, it's like, man, how many of you guys are like, oh, you're in America? Oh, what do you do? Oh, you're a fucking surgeon? You're an engineer? You're a fucking researcher? You contributed something? Yeah, what's back home? Oh, this fucking guy. Like, dude's calling me about, like, warranties and shit like that. I'm like, I get it. That's the filter. That's a great filter.

What video game are you looking forward to next now that you're playing Helldiver? And you came from your YouTube. Did you originally start in like, hey, I'm going to start in the YouTube space as a gamer or were you immediately like, I was in as a gamer, but I realized quickly, like, bro, it's not like I don't want to turn this into my job. So I just started doing what I'm passionate about and called it a day. Terrible to turn it into your job.

Gaming-wise, the only game I'm into is, like, right now is, like, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth. Like, I've been playing that, like, pretty much... It's a high five, not the other one, Bray. No, like, pretty much, like... I was like, mm...

Like, before I flew out here, I made sure to get, like... I had to pull out the page watch on that one. That was really close. Yeah. Like, no, before I, like, flew out here, I was like, I gotta get all my hours of Final Fantasy in before I, like, take, like, a two-day fucking sabbatical from this shit. Because it's a really good game. Like, I'm from, like... He's an OG gamer. Like, PlayStation. He's seen my Xenogears. Dude, I started playing Xenogears last night. The very beginning. The dark Pokemon shit. Well, yeah. Because you were doing...

You started off with the... Creepypasta scary stories, yeah. No, no, like I looked at your old catalog. It was like Zelda, Ocarina of Time. And then it went down to... That's my fucking line. Yeah, and like the first like 500,000 view video you got was the Pokemon, like the dark Pokemon. Yeah, the creepy black stuff or whatever, yeah. Yeah. Probably explain it differently than that.

I enjoyed it because, like, at the time, like, ten years ago, I was always, like, looking at creepy shit on the internet. No, like, at the time, like, creepy shit on the internet was what I was into, and it, like, kind of parlays into what I do now, like, looking at, like, the weird stuff on, like, some of my most favorite videos to make is, like, you know, the 4chan stuff where I look into, like, crazy, like, the Alex from Tennessee thread or something like that where, like, I'm looking at somebody who's just on, like, the paranormal board talking about, like,

Hey, I found this bomb shelter in the middle of Tennessee. Maybe I want to like fucking explore it or something. Oh shit. There's like a crack in, in the middle. Should I go further? I'm like, that's the kind of stuff I enjoy. Right. So that's where like kind of the jump went into. And I think because of that, like I went away from like the gaming side because at the time when I started YouTube, I thought gaming was like kind of like the thing that was in, but then I'm like,

I've already got a job. I've already got things going for me. Like I might as well do what I enjoy. And if it sticks, it sticks. Right. And that's when I pivoted a little bit to like general commentary, deep web, and now I'm like commentary as well. So it's like when I switched to that, it's like doing things that I enjoy. I found it success in that.

And that's what I pretty much like kind of stuck to like a internet scary stuff is what I'm into. It's one of the reasons why I love channels like Wendigoon for instance, right? Like I love, I love any channel like that that looks into like the craziest shit out there. Brandon's son. Yeah, my son. It's always super funny. Cause like channels like a, it's like, uh, you know, Isaiah, um, you know, Hunter, any, any of those guys, um,

whenever you see him in... Barely sociable, yeah. What's that? Barely sociable. Also on top of that, you know, you talk to... That's when you said Hunter. I'm like, oh, I thought you meant him. Oh, no. I thought you meant like saying like they are barely sociable. Oh, people that are barely sociable, I love them guys too. I was like, well, I wouldn't go that far, but all right, sure. Muda hard goes hard. Yeah, like goddamn. Um,

No, you know, Wendigoon. It's like the fucking, you know, we're using our made up names. He was the best guest on our podcast. Like, bro, when you bring Wendigoon on, it's like, yo, you got to sit there and be ready to talk about JFK getting fucking squad wiped. 9-11. That's why he's my squad. Fucking...

Dude, we had him on here, and it was probably one of the best podcasts we've ever done. Dude, he crushed it. It was so good. I just loved he was the sober one, and then we, like, when the episode was coming out, it was like... In context. In context. But Cody's parents were on that one.

We know on the Wendigo one. Yeah. Yeah. His parents were on it. Fucking trout was on it. We didn't remember any of that because we had like five podcasts in two days. Yeah, because we were one right after the other. Like we were just fucking churning these things out. And so like we also like on top of the social anxiety of like having to hang out with like 80 of our friends at one time.

So it was a lot. It was a lot. And then, like, that podcast I remember watching on a plane for the first time, essentially. Because I don't remember a fucking thing that happened on it. But it was so good. And I'm glad it pieced together. Because five is a harder one. I don't know if you've ever had five people. It is a harder one. So, like, the conversations get deviated. But when you have somebody like, I don't see it. Oh, so having a fucking guest on that doesn't say shit.

I don't want to shit on any guests, but if you come on my show and you don't say anything... Cody on the slide watch. Fuck you. Sewer slide. No, but it's like... The thing about it is, even if you have somebody on, if you don't contribute at all and you don't say... That's why I hate having gamers on the show because it's like, bro, you guys are so fucking socially stunted. You can't have any...

God damn conversation about anything. Speaking of socially stunted, I see you're doing the same thing with your hands that I've been doing for like, what the fuck are you doing? I just noticed it. I just, you're just like, hmm, conversation. You guys are stimming like that. No, but it's like, sometimes you'll have like, dude, sometimes, sometimes you'll have dudes on your show where it's like, bro.

Yeah, but sometimes you'll have people on the show where it's like, bro, you've got to fucking say something. You've got to have something to contribute to the fucking show. Jesus Christ. Like, God damn. I don't understand how... I will say we've got very lucky with... We try to get our guests off of, like, from show or the guys when we bring guests on is very like, hey, this individual is very well spoken or they can talk.

Yeah. Okay. And if it's one that has problems, you're like, let's add another guest on that episode and we'll only roll two hosts. And then you have pretty good solid conversation pieces. And we've got Lucky in that because we haven't had just like...

stale. I wish more YouTubers were like us, dude. Business owners, scumbags, like white supremacists and shit. That's the best kind of... That is going in the first 15 seconds of this episode. I just wish more YouTubers were like us. White supremacists. Scumbags. On that fucking note, Cody, do you want to fucking send this out? Bye, everyone.

Thank you for coming to the unsubscribe podcast. I'm joined today by Eli double fat, Brandon Herrera hates veterans and Mr. Moonheart ordinary gamer.

Where can we find you at, Mr. Mudahar? You can find me at SomeOrdinaryGamers. We have a brand that's coming out, too. I feel like I might as well mention that. It's 1UP Cosmetics. I can probably send you guys the message for the URL link for that sometime soon. Well, then tell who's behind that, because you were talking about that, and that's awesome. Well, it's me, OompaVille. It's a gamer from Mars who are behind a skincare brand, actually, and it might be awful for a gamer to release a skincare brand, but

We're working on it because we had sponsors that were like making us do fucking scantron tests for skincare. So we decided to make our own brand and not white label. We decided to actually go through two years of hard effort to find a

This is a fucking crazy story. I feel like this is how you ended off. We had to find a... We found the guy that worked with Versace. Yeah, right? So we found a guy that worked with Versace. We found the manufacturer. We found everything in-house. So one of the wildest things is, like, you know how these, like, YouTubers make these white label products and shit? Yeah. Like, Pokemanes, like, fucking cookies or Valkyrie skin cream? No, I don't know how...

I know, I know, I know. It's a really shocking concept. But like we had these, we had somebody who's a white label of products. I'll say this much right now as a YouTuber is like somebody that's in this business. I fucking hate when, when like big companies take basically bend us over and fuck us in the ass for money.

So I got tired of doing like ad reads and shit like that. I like it better than the alternative. Yeah, like the alternative. I at least hope there's money in the information. I like being behind the barrel by two degrees, right? Like, fuck me. So we made a brand called 1UP Cosmetics, which was like a combat to like a lot of the skincare brands that were like making you do fucking scantron tests and making you buy like 90 different products.

So we have like one actual product that you as guys, which we don't look fucking love doing morning routines. You take 30 seconds for and then bam, you're good to go. So we don't want to do the American psycho. Like I simply am not. I mean, you can't listen. You can do the American psycho if you want. It's just not going to take as long as the fucking movie. But hey, give it a give it a try all you want. Every morning I do crunches. I'll be able to do 156 now.

But yeah, it's one of the things I've been working on with like OompaVille. I've been working on with Gamer From Mars, a few of my friends. And it's one of the projects we have as an experiment for like YouTubers to build their own brands and like succeed and then finally fucking have a little bit of footing that's not in reliance to like big tech, big companies, big anything. So it's a bit of a way for us to gain independence almost. I enjoy that. I enjoy that. Not only like...

that company in particular, but like the way that you guys do things like between like just, I mean, even the way that Caleb does his stuff with the, yeah.

He does everything. It's not white label. It's not just like, hey, I'll do an influencer deal. Use this code. Get 10% off. Like he actually from the ground up FDA compliance, everything just built a company, hired employees and built the whole thing. It's funny. It's like the amount of bitching that I had to hear Caleb over two years of working with us about the fucking FDA. Dude, I love Caleb. He's my boy. But like, man, that guy.

If you ever want to know about somebody that has to, like, anybody that's a real, like, proper American businessman that works with the FDA and every three-letter agency is Caleb. He puts in every effort possible. That guy is the greatest.

dude that I've ever partnered with period like and if you want to hear about that check out the after show we're going to do about 10 to 20 minutes after this go check out the patreon watch it we'll have a good time we're going to sign out right now Cody we love you donut check out donut last year