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104 - Too Deep Too Fast ft. Che Durena

2023/5/3
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Che Durena discusses his growth on social media platforms and his approach to content creation, mentioning his stagnant TikTok growth and focus on YouTube.

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More butts in seats. Dude, you've been crushing that, though. Like, going to your show, I was like, oh, man. Dude, honestly, it's the thing I do best.

So that's been going good. Tempe was really fun. La Jolla was super fun, man. Like it's been a really good weekend. You've been, I mean, you've gained, God knows how many since last year. It's been a year since you were gone? Yeah, I think I'm like doubled on Instagram. My TikTok's kind of stagnant in terms of growth. It's still edging up, but it's that eventually you hit a point where you're like, you plateau a bit. But now, you know, YouTube's the big thing. I'm like, I'll figure out a crack in the nut. It takes time. Open.

Yeah, get open somehow. Somehow, man. Yeah, YouTube's great.

Can we drink? What? On the first five minutes? Absolutely. Do we need to pop a top? We're not there yet. Calm down. We don't even have the tops to pop. Oh, you do. Are they hot or cold? Those are hot. They're hot, but whatever. I said sweet thanks to you, and this is how you treat me? Yes. You're mom, I'm dad. I hate everything. You are sweet, and you make people drinks. Look at that. Look at that. Okay.

I got a cup of Jack Daniels over here. Dude, you guys go hard in the paint. Hard. I go one, two. At my age, I'm like... I already cracked it. What about your...

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The other day we had a comment and it was like, you guys act like you're so tough while you drink White Claw in the podcast. Like, motherfuckers, do you...

Do you think that's all we do? There's liquor all over the shelves. I don't know what this White Claw hate is. It's a great low-calorie seltzer. And some of us are 30s. We're all 40s. You gotta start living different, man. My liver hurts every day. In my head, it's this. Fucking pussy drinking White Claw.

You been to war? Yeah. I wear pink. That is how comfortable I am. Fuck, man. He's killed a man. That gives you a different sense of security. You just stop caring. You're just like, yeah. Fuck. Fuck, yes.

As always, we have Eli Doltap, myself, Batty Streams, and our wonderful, great-haired guest, Jay. Welcome back, man. Thank you. I missed the first time you were here. Yeah, you weren't here the first time. Yeah, no, it's great to finally meet you, my dude. I'm all right. I love you. You've never met him, but you've been to his house. That was his old house. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We built it in my old house. I was just... No, I called it a compound because there was like a gate to get in. And then another gate. Yeah, and I was like, oh, this is a compound feel, you know? That's why I was stonewalled. You were so confused by your text. I was like, what compound are you talking about? It was like question mark. You're like, oh, new studio, man. You're like, that's a residential house.

It's not like a warehouse and generator on the property. I was like, what address did I send him? Okay, we're good. Dude, how you been? How you been? Dude, I've been good. I've been good. We're out here working. Crushing live. We're getting stuff done. Gaming. All the good stuff, man. All the good stuff. Not taking any breaks. I know you've been. It's one of my favorite things about it. It's like all the content you do. You are a hard working person.

dude you you're making the rest of us look bad you slow down man no it's like it's it's been a good grind man uh all the pieces come together every day when i think about it i'm very grateful for all the things i have i know that's like a sappy thing to say but i have a lot of peers who i like came up in the comedy scene with who aren't as successful as i am quote unquote successful and so just to be where i'm at i'm like this is awesome i'm very happy with what's going on yeah i

It just hit my head because it's awesome to watch those friends like you where it's like, hey, that hard work and effort. And you don't give up. It pays off, man. Just crushing it and continue. And you know the grind. Oh, yeah. People think it's an easy grind. It's like, oh, comedian. You're like, no. No. Just...

Stand on stage and tell jokes, bro. You gotta get good at it. I remember I did a show once in, I think it was like Toronto Yuck Yucks or Toronto Absolute Comedy. I was doing the show I'm hosting and

And a guy in the corner said something like, I could do this. And I kind of ripped on him for a bit. And then I was coming on again in between two other comics. And I tied together four pieces of crowd work that I had done previously. I was getting laughs. And it was this whole moment of full circle. And I turned to the guy who said that. I was like, you think you could fucking do this? You think you could do this? Fucking bring it. What kind of shitty person does it take to go to a comedy show and then be like,

fuck you bro what do you it's if we're making it look easy we're doing a good job that's part of it if you if you are coming in and you're like he's just talking off the top of his head and he's it's all natural which sometimes we are some guys are just riffing or you're doing crowd work or whatever but like when your material that's written feels like it was is a spur of the moment then you're like oh this is exactly that organic field of the story exactly that's what we want that's what we're yes absolutely

yeah i think a lot of people don't realize it is if you watch dave chapelle or uh the other um chris rock special yeah you get to see how they tie they're like this joke's going here then we'll follow it up with this yeah it's a white board with how they're going to approach the entire set for an hour hour and a

Exactly. And Chappelle does some wild stuff. Like Chappelle will do like five hour, six hour sets where he'll just go on stage. I've never seen one of them. I've heard people talk about them, but that they're like, it's not funny the whole time, but it's very like you're engaged. You're engaging. And it'll go into moments where he's just like killing with these jokes and then talk about some other stuff. And he's just flowing. But just to be in. It's like, yeah, streaming or something. Being live streaming. Yeah. But you're the only piece of content.

And like the, to be in front of people for that long, it's like, that's pretty wild. But no, no one else really does that. No, it's Dave. And he has, I think the gift of storytelling is where he, cause everyone has different styles. Like when Chris Rock special came out, I was like, Oh, this is Chris. Like, you know, you know, Chris Rock and it's, it's, it's weird watching it. Not, it was fantastic, but it's for this day and age, it felt antiquated. Like it just, the first feel of it, the first,

The first like 10 minutes, I felt a little old man comedy. Yeah. But I remember talking to my buddy about the Ricky Gervais special that came out and he was like, I was watching it and I felt like this is an old man doing comedy. He's like, but wait, yeah, it is an old man doing comedy. This guy's almost 60. Yeah.

It's like, yeah. So the first, but then I think once it got past that first chunk where he's like, everyone gets offended. I'm like that. Who knows when he wrote that this felt, it felt like material that should have been out like three, four or five years ago. But once he got past that, the jokes about Elon, the jokes about Will Smith, I was like, oh, these are bangers. He had some like huge bangers in that special. Did we ever talk about the Will Smith shit?

Oh, the Will Smith shit is great. I don't think we ever did. No. That's why it was crazy. It's, well, just that cat cat. And then you waited a year and it was perfectly timed. Yeah, dude. And you're like, oh my God.

No, the Will Smith stuff was wild. There's clearly whatever's going on between him and Jada and like that. Super healthy relationship. Super healthy. So healthy. Man, it just goes to show that like having someone bad close to you, it doesn't matter how successful you are, how much money you have. It'll drive you fucking crazy. Well, isn't that picture of Jada and Tupac? It's like Tupac took the right team and Tupac was like, he got out just by dying.

I think they said at least he dodged one bullet. Yeah, that was it. At least he dodged one bullet. I think it was, I don't remember if it was a tweet from Will Smith or some shit this year. He was like, well, it's weird I have to stay at home this year. Yeah. Like, ooh.

Dude. Man. Yes, and you totally did that. But you got to be like a little unhinged to go walk on stage at what you know is one of the most watched live events and slap a man. And also, there's the whole aspect of how much smaller Chris Rock is than him. And the joke was not about, like, it was harmless. And he laughs. He laughs at it. And then he sees. He laughs and he looks. And then he sees it. He's like, oh, I'm not supposed to be laughing. I'm not supposed to be laughing.

- She's gonna hit me later. - That's exactly, he looked at me, he's like, "If I'm gonna get hurt, you're gonna get hurt." - He just run up, slapped me, he's like, "Did I do it right, babe?" - Yeah, dude. - "I love you." - I heard some story about Jada where it was like her 40th or 50th or something like that, and Will Smith started planning it out like three years in advance.

It was like her, say her 37th birthday. He was like, for her 40th, I'm going to do something crazy. And he did this crazy, like Mary J. Blige performed. Like, oh, this was this huge spectacle. And like partway through the night, everything's going crazy. He's like, so like, are you having a good time? And she says, this is the most disgusting display of your ego ever.

A man goes out of his way to make sure that you have the most wonderful night with the best performers and it's all about you. And she goes, fuck you. Spits in his fucking face. She's like a great lady. What a soul. Yeah. I just like, it's like, I sucked his dick and cheated on you. How's that make you feel? Like, I'm like,

Like on a live set. That's insane. What was that? Well, that's what I think because Jada, her career has been like nothing. She hasn't really done anything. She was like in the Matrix or something. So when she's like providing as an entertainer, the only thing she's providing is the gossip about her being famous, which is just her attachment to Will Smith. And she's just milking that into some sort of entertainment career where she's just

putting their dirty laundry out in public. Like, it's fucked. I can't even, like, comprehend the thought where, like, yeah, we should go on TV and talk about this. About how you fucked our son's friend? And how shameless... How does this kid feel? Dude, exactly! It's like, it's one thing if you cheat. You fucked your son's friend. Who?

Who was staying in the... I think he was staying in the house because he was like... Yeah. Because he fell on hard times. Like, the manipulation and the dirtiness of that whole thing is... You disrespected your son, your husband. You took advantage of a young man. Like, it's like all these fucking things, dude. He checked all the boxes. Yeah, you're sick, dude. And then let's put it on TV. That's like going into a fight with your spouse and you're about to, like, get divorced or something and you're like, I have so much to fucking say to you. Hold on. Yeah. Boop. Hey, what's up, stream? Hey.

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You're like and that's why I want a divorce five subs. You know what that means the special day We won't get divorced this time jokes

They're so fucking weird. You see that stuff. It is a weird thing. I think with social and all these platforms, there's been this perception that everything you do is everyone's business or that there needs to be this out facing thing. Like there's,

There's like obviously the big, like all the Andrew Tate stuff that's kind of like attached to people's opinions and stuff now. And I don't give a shit how anyone wants to live, but that perception is all based on someone having any sort of say on how someone else lives their life. Like they're like, okay, you're a woman. You need to be like this. You're a man. You need to be like this.

Whatever you feel comfortable with your partner. There's some dude out there who's getting pegged and his wife cucks him and they do a whole thing and they're madly in love. Oh, that's the most happy relationship. And the greatest to life. But if you follow certain aspects of understanding or thinking that your internal thing with a person is anyone else's relationship,

Business and you're like, oh well we can't live like that because I'm less than or you're more than judge You're gonna get judged. We're gonna be told we're wrong or right? Just do whatever the fuck you want to do and it's no one else's fucking business That's it Like now you look at from the other side It's not only that are we broadcasting stuff or we were put more putting putting more stuff out there because social media is

But because people have become so attuned to watching and consuming this content, everyone thinks it's their businesses. They think they can be like, yeah, well, now I need to know how you get fucked every single night. And so people are like, what do you mean you're not going to tell me every intricate detail of your intimate life?

Or they'll just be like, hey man, you have fun getting that blow? It's like, what are you saying to me right now? That's one thing with like a lot of the content I've created is there was this big push, especially on TikTok, where you saw a lot of big creators you were seeing like...

intricate parts of their lives, aspects, their personalities. Yeah. Oh yeah, man. And I steered away from that and I was like, I'm going to start showing you stand up and my other forms of entertainment that I like to do and you can consume that. And lots of times people will get me on a podcast or something and they'll be like, I didn't expect you to be like this. I'm like, yeah, because I don't put, the side of you you see on me on social is just my sense of humor. You're seeing one aspect of me and the rest, if you want, you can watch me on a pod or you can watch me somewhere else. Twitch, where on? Little Dinky News on Twitch. Yes. Little Dinky.

Little Dinky News. I love it. I would have never been like, his username is Chet. No, Little Dinky News. Both you and Caleb, and I've seen a couple other TikTokers. They have everything. His Caleb W Friends is everywhere, except their Twitch is something completely separate. The Twitch, I went with a different thing because me and my boy Cameron, who's also a hilarious comedian...

We started from scratch this whole thing. So we're like, well, let's do a different name because this is our, it's not a chain or anything. It's a chain cam thing. And so we're starting from scratch. We're going to have a unique name for it. Yeah, that was, that's why we went with that. But yeah, chain or anything on everything else. But yeah, that's the only reason why we did that. Okay. All right. Interesting. Hey, Eli. Yeah. I'm Wolverine again.

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I'm Baraka. Baraka? Our president? No. Baraka. From Mortal Kombat? The single blade arm guy? You have no idea who I'm talking about? He's the guy with the mouth that's all the teeth, and then he has the two blades that come out his arms? He's making shit up. Oh, my God. Yeah, it's been...

Just the entire going back to the comedy space. How are you feeling with because Chris Rock talked about the PC things, blah, which I was like, oh, okay, whatever. Bad old man joke. But it was weird because now I'm conditioned when he brought up he was making a transsexual joke. And for whatever reason, I was like, oh, like I was funny, but I got uncomfortable. I was like, I hate that. I just got uncomfortable for him on repercussions. He might.

suffer because he just made a joke as a comedian.

And I just had that little tinge of like, uh-oh, is he going to get in trouble for that? I'm like, oh, man, that sucks. I like comedy. I think we've hit the... We're already... The pendulum's already going back the other way. Like, I think we've already, like... I think a perfect example was, like, the Mr. Beast thing. The Mr. Beast thing where he, like, he cured a bunch of people with blindness. And what a piece of shit. What a piece of shit he is. He just got shit off for giving a server a car. Yeah, exactly. So he...

He got backlash on those things, but then the headlines that I saw at least weren't Mr. Beast is a piece of shit. It was like people are upset for whatever reason. It's always that, though. It's always somebody else is upset or a group of people is upset for some other reason. So I think the focus now is like these people who are upset at everything are wrong. Everything.

Yeah, it's like that these people are...

If you feel upset about something, that's fine. You're allowed to feel upset. But that someone else needs to change or someone else is a bad person because you had an emotional reaction to something, that doesn't make you right. And I think the pendulum's swinging back the other way. I could be wrong, but I feel like we just went through what was essentially the 70s. The 70s, you had like... Oh my God, yeah. That's a good... Very huge social justice movement in the 70s. Big women's rights movement. And then in the 80s, you have like a massive punk movement.

where it's like, people are like, we're going from everyone cares about everything to we care about nothing. Yeah. Love and peace to fuck. Yeah, exactly. And generations are very much defined by decades. And I feel like the decade of the 2030s is going to be, uh,

we don't give a fuck. We don't care. We don't care what comedians say. We don't care what, whoever this fucking person says. And also I've always been on the stance that like we scrutinize our, our entertainers so hard, but the people who have like a real physical impact on your life, like your, your chief of police, your political leaders, the people are deciding how much money you make, whether or not you have clean drinking water, whether or not they're going to frack and poisoning your water supply. We don't even know these people's names. It's so,

true you don't you're just like yeah i couldn't but dave chapelle made a joke this one time i am so mad out it's like you get your priorities fucking lined up and it's not equal it's like because there's the what about ism but i really believe that it's like if you spend time tweeting about dave chapelle and not tweeting about this other thing that other thing is never getting the attention you can't

You can't just... There is a whataboutism. You have to focus on these real tactile issues other than these metaphysical things like entertainers making you feel upset. But we are never going to do that as a society. I don't think we ever have. I think we just don't. We're like, no shiny object. Fuck that shiny object. It's the wrong color. Dude, I think even back in the Roman times, they would be like, we need better gladiators in here because they distract people from the fact that we got no grain. I think it's...

Always been that. The dichotomy's always been never been race. Goddamn sheeple. Gotta be a wolf and sheepster or something, something, 1%. Always been rich, poor from day one. And it's like, well, I think we've always been the same. I think we go through the same loops. And I think the only thing that changes is people think that their experience is unique and it's not. And that they have some sort of tactile hold on the impact of the world when really you're just going to die and everything's just going to restart. Most of you, when you die, 99%

Unfortunately, 99% of the entire population, when you die, no one will remember you in one year. Yeah.

i hope nobody remembers me after a year i always said like because that means i fucked something up way too big if they remember me longer my goal was just like give me like 10 years to 100 years if i can get where it's like in 100 years and was like oh that eli guy i'm like okay i fucking i did it and that is so long 100 years no because and that is insane but then you have those individuals you have your caesars you have your gangas cons you have your michelangelo's where it's like

they're going to be known for this fucking ever. And that is where you're like, man, you are out of everyone. There's only a handful of names, you know, from the top. Elon, like those people, they made a difference. That's always my goal is like that. But for a majority of people, as you're saying, a lot of them are going to be remembered in a way that they never wanted to be remembered. You take someone like Che Guevara, very anti-capitalist. If he saw himself being sold on a t-shirt in America, he would blow his fucking head off.

Holy shit. I didn't even think about that. Yeah, it's like, bro, it's like you can't even, you cannot control how things will evolve and most likely human race will go extinct and we'll just be another speck on existence. Fucking hopefully. So having any sort of sense that you're going to hold on to any of this and living your life in a way where you want control, you have no control. You have none. You are a fucking dot in a universe. Exactly. Maybe we got too deep too fast. I know. We're fucking really going hard on the bank. YouTube's like,

Oh, I wanted to laugh today. We have so many sad veterans clicking on today's video. Yeah, they're like, oh, fucking death, bro. Bro, I need push-ups now. You're not going to mean anything to anyone when you die. I was like, bro. If you took it that way, that's what I meant. I meant enjoy life. Enjoy, be happy because these things are so fleeting and having a hold on things that

You can't if that brings you any sort of sadness or discomfort. No, you just happy This is like I look che is one of the like you're just so fucking very positive person. No, but you're Like I'm happy you're positive and you're fucking intelligent is thinking your dick Stop sucking his dick it tastes amazing

It tastes amazing. Best review that's going on my Yelp. Tastes amazing. Oh, speaking of which, I got to stop. See, this is the dichotomy of me. Where I'll be like, oh, D, personal things. Then I'm like, but my dick, dude. Bro. That's kind of the podcast. We'll be like, yo, so these anime titties are great and all. But oh my God, the war in Ukraine.

We just took a quick exit. It's like, oh, the exit. Okay, dick talk. It's like, oh, it's my turn. How's your dick doing? I do need to fuck in. I'm like, I think I'm on... I've said this on a few podcasts now. I need to get a girlfriend. I need to fucking lock it down. Because the pussy, it's like...

As you get, I'm slowly but surely getting more popular. Like it's like, it's a keeps and as you get more popular. It's dangerous, isn't it? The pussy, it's a faucet that never turns off. No. And it's just the pussy just keeps pouring out of it. The pussy faucet. The pussy faucet. The best way it's like you're in a desert. Yeah. And then you're like, well, and you find that and it's good. And you're like, oh, there's an oasis. And you open your eyes and you're in an ocean. You're like, no.

Yeah, exactly. I need to exactly like I can't fucking drowning now. God damn. And it starts fucking infecting all the pieces of your life. Infecting? That's a strange word you used there. Very strange word. Deliberate. Yeah. Oh, it's been infected a few times.

Yeah, dude. And so I'm just trying to like, if there's a lady at home, I won't be out fucking around. I just need to put a lid on it.

Like, yeah, it's big. I like you like you're acting like you have no control. Please always put a lid on it. It's a girlfriend that's going to stop it. I need that word to stop having sex. I told my sister about this and she was like, whoa, this is the worst reason to get a girlfriend I've ever had. She was like, you want a girlfriend so she can just

bear all your problems and try to make you a better person. I'm like, yeah, yeah. I'm called healthy. Exactly.

God damn, dude. People are throwing you floaties. You're just stabbing it. I don't want it, dude. I don't want it. I'm still fucking swimming. It's fucking difficult. I mean, like the Tinder game or anything like that back in our single days, it was like... It just starts going and going and going. And now my DMs. You're checkmarked on Tinder, too. If your Tinder account is linked to your IG account and you have that checkmark with that following. It doesn't matter. You can still get banned.

you can still get banned yeah what'd you get banned for they thought i was uh fake no way 100 that's crazy no the the uh your tinder link to your uh yeah it was but verified ig account when you have a linked verified ig account no you're an idiot it's not how it works no it does i've never linked my tinder to you could link your tinder instagram it doesn't have to be a verified instagram well i know that but if they have a verified number baddie

It makes a huge difference on the girls. - That's not what we're talking about, Eli. - 'Cause it's easier to have more pussy than you, bro. - No, I don't care about that. He was talking about the more famous you get, the easier. - It goes and goes and goes, and it's just like you, yeah, no, it is a new drug. It's a new drug. - It's a new addiction. - It is. - I mean, it could be heroin.

Sometimes I'll be about to jerk off and then I'll be like, I don't know, maybe I'll just message a girl instead. There's like, I'll just go through the DMs. When I'm going to New City, because now on Instagram you can search by keywords. When you post your fucking DMs and shit. You did this. I can open up and it's hashtag Austin. Oh, yeah.

I'll just go, who did I say Austin to? And then I go, you, you, you. And then like, I'm in town, I'm in town, I'm in town, I'm in town. And just send out all these messages, like heat-seeking missiles. One of them's going to hit. Oh, no, I've never been that rude. I've never been that crazy. Fight for my love.

That's Henry Cavill famous where he can just put in all the girls and he's just like one text. He's like, you awake? Just watch all the girls. You woke up. Let me suck that dick. Titty pictures coming. Do you know that, what's his name? Who's the fucking artist who did the weird like abstract art? No, um,

Picasso Picasso. So there's an old Picasso story. Pat's like what the fuck? Sure. Sure. Fucking Picasso. I like you just like abstractly was like oh Picasso. You know you know Picasso.

You're like, what the fuck? It's a minority thing, Ben. So Picasso, apparently, this is a rumor about him. He was, of course, a famous artist at the time. And then he had these two younger, like say he's in his mid-40s. These two chicks in their 20s come into his office at the same time because they found out that he's sleeping with both of them simultaneously. And they're like, what the fuck? And they're in his face. And he's sitting in his studio and he's just looking at them. And he goes, fight.

Fight for me. And they fight each other to be the one who gets to stay with Picasso. Yeah. So that was before you had group chats. That's how Picasso did it. One of my favorite things that happens to me all the time is mostly on Twitter. I'll get invited to like a Twitter group message and every name that goes down the list is like baddies, baddy asses, bad, like just girls, hot chicks. And it's me. And I'm like,

Y'all didn't look at my name. You didn't... I'm a big ginger bearded fuck. You know? And I get kicked so quick. I'm like, what are you doing? And it's always like one like 19 year old fucking kid. And then he made this group chat. He's like, what's up? Just made this group chat to see if anyone wants to hang out and chat. I'm like, what are you...

What do you think this is going to do? Yeah. I mean, that shows how horny dudes get. Dudes get so horny that they start to get like, you remember when you were a kid and you would do like weird stuff like mix different shampoos together to try and make a potion or something? And put your dick in it. Is that a minority thing too? God, I don't remember that part. Yeah.

But you get innovative. Dudes will start to get innovative. You put your hands together like this, like a pussy. If you look at most things, most forms of creation, they're backed by pussy. Pussy is the driving factor, the independent funder of most male inspiration. The only guy is like Nikola Tesla.

Nikola Tesla never fucked. He literally said, I'm not going to get married or date because it would be a disservice to mankind. Yeah. Like his own brain. He was so smart that he's like, I can't let the pussy get in here. No. No. He knew how powerful the pussy is. He's like, I got to focus on the science. Yeah. I wonder if he's straight. He's like, no. See, fucking what's his name? Who's the dude who Nikola Tesla was against? Edison. Edison was a pussy guy.

He was a straight pussy guy. He was stealing people's shit. He was taking ideas. Those are pussy moves. Those are like... He wanted it on top to get that pussy. Figuratively and literally, the pussy moves, man. He was doing all that shit. I'm trying to think how we can make a shirt out of Tesla and Edison pussy moves.

Dude, yeah. Dude, it's just like, it's Nikolai Tesla looking this way and there's just a cat crossing. Pussy moves. Yeah, pussy moves. You're good to go. That's actually, I didn't realize in that story you had two different, like Edison and Tesla, that he came to the States and blah, blah, blah. Everyone knows that part.

But I mean, we all saw the prestige. It's obviously historical. Oh, is that what it's about? Is it kind of about the two of them fucking? I never I've never seen the prestige. Oh, my God, bro. Probably my favorite movie of all time. We won't ruin that. Watch that movie. That is one of the best movies you will ever watch. There's like a weird subplot with Tesla and Edison in the background.

It's a magician movie. Okay. Oh, is that the one with Christian Bale or something? Yeah. Okay. I haven't seen it, but I've heard of the prestige. Hugh Jackman and Christian Bale. Great guys. Great guys. Hugh Jackman coming back, too. I love that one tweet he did where he was like, I never thought... Everyone's like, you look so young for your age. And then that one dude took a photo of when he was napping. And he was like...

Only time I look, dude, it's just mapped out. And he's just like wrinkly and old. Dude's a beast though. Fucking like dead lifting, whatever, like 600 or something like that. Fucking animal, man. What was it? It was Logan. Holy fuck. That movie was so good.

good when that came out when they were pushing the envelope on like violent they're like these deadpool i think came out so then they're like let's do rated r at superhero movies yeah damn what a great movie that was yeah no logan was fucking dope deadpool fucking dope and then now because of that we have things like the boys and uh invincible like those invincible season two is coming out i know i did not wait yeah that's gonna be fucking sick what a

I remember when that came out, we were doing a podcast and Eli watched it and he was just like, go watch it right now. It's insane. It goes from like a normal superhero cartoon to episode one to ripping heads. 90s Batman. That's what I always say. It's a 90s Batman animation for episode one until the last five minutes. You're like, what the fuck just happened? And they do such a, I feel like there's a formula to TV shows now where like every TV show you watch, each episode ends with a cliffhanger. But it's like, how good can you hook them?

How like, cause sometimes you hook me and I fall off and I'm like, I'll never watch again. That show hooks you where you're like, whoa, what the fuck is going on? Like you're so into it. Holy shit. And this season two is going to be fucking awesome.

Fucking dope. And I haven't picked up the comics. I know the comics are supposed to be awesome. I'm intentionally nuts. I enjoyed the show so much. I don't want to. Because I know I won't watch the show. That's what happened on The Last of Us. The Last of Us, I watched some of it on a plane because I had it downloaded. I watched episode one and two and I was like, I'm into it. Oh, you're one of the people that never played the game.

- Oh no, I played the game. - Oh, okay, okay. - No, I played the game, but now I'm like way less interested in watching the show. Like even I got to episode five and I was like eating. I always like to put something on when I'm eating. So I'm eating and I'm watching it. And then I know I have a show that night and I was like, oh, I got to turn this off 'cause I know this gets real sad. I was like, I know what's about to happen. - You don't want to go into it fucking sad. - I know exactly what's going to happen. I know who these two are, I know what happens. So it's going to get sad. I'm like, I can't get in that head space before I perform.

But that takes me out of the show. Like a deep drama, a big part of it is the storyline. Like these twists, these turns, these heartbreaking moments. And we know them going into it. See, I was like, I never played the game. So I've seen it because I did like a watch through of somebody playing it. But it cut out all the fluff. It was just like your cut scene. So I got the gist of it. But that was, you know, back when the game originally came out. And I haven't given a fuck about the last of the series until now. So I was like, oh, this will be mostly new again for me.

Absolutely loved it. But I know if I do spoil myself on thing, whether it's anime and I'll read some manga or it's a graphic novel or whatever it may fucking be.

I don't want to ruin it. So the point is those moments that make you go like that. I don't want to know what the moment is before it happens. Dude, are you guys Dragon Ball guys? Oh, I do. This is so I bro. Yeah. I mean, let's go. Oh, Vegeta. Dude, well, that's for manga anime. I am probably the biggest manga. Yeah, you're a fucking nerd reader, but I have my shit where I'm just dirty weed. The biggest weed for. And

When I read these now, I'm like, oh, dude, I want to watch this. I'll start a new series like Blue Lock. If you haven't watched Blue Lock. No, I don't know. Soccer anime, which I've never. I would have never watched a soccer anime. Football for European fans. Yes. One of the best animes. And I realized I was like, why the fuck is the soccer anime football at the top of Crunchyroll? Where it's like, hey, number one. I was like, they paid for it. No.

no no you see the ratings and everyone it hooked me i was like episode one i was like i'll give it a shot i was like it's so good i was that darnell got me into he's like just watch it he's like just so good me fucking fantastic now do i read the manga and finish it same for demon slayer do i read the manga know everything or do i wait yeah this sucks one punch man

I've read the entire manga. I know what's going to happen. But for One Punch Man, it's like season one, two. Did they do a season three? They're going to. So it's like One Punch Man. It's been taking so long. Oh, fuck. Like read the fucking manga. Suck attack on time. Yeah. Just fucking read the manga, dog. I'm not going to read it. I'm not going to read it. I'm waiting. I'm going to wait the seven more years until the second half of the second episode of the second season. The final season movie came out.

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Boys, boys. That's the new saying. It's just check your boys, boys. I'm going to wait. Oh, Dragon Ball. Yeah, no, the Dragon Ball, like the Dragon Ball Super and these extensions that they've done have been so fucking good. GG? No, GT. I've never watched GT. I know GT. Like, I feel like I should just because...

Like... But Marley has green hair. And it's like, well, I'll just give it its due, you know? I'll fucking whatever. I'll get really hungover one day. And then, like, I'll come off. And then I'll just burn it. Like, it's like, whatever. Whatever. I'll watch it without... 50 episodes or something. 50? Dude, you can do 50 episodes...

Dubbed. That's a weekend. It's on in the background. I'm doing laundry. Just like, yeah, it'll just be going. But super. There's a lot of stuff that's super that was super cheesy. But that Tournament of Power, the first. The Tournament of Power is so good. The fucking. Do that ultra instinct.

- That's so sick. - Bro, and he's like, do do do do do do do. Like, and he's just like walking, all the blasts. - Yeah. When he does, when he's fighting Kefla, and he does the fucking slide, the like Kamehameha slide, I've rewatched that. I watched it before it popped, I thought about it because it popped up on my TikTok. People were like, this is the coolest thing you did in Super.

It's so fucking sick dude. Did you see when he's sliding on it with his feet? There's energy balls on his feet. No, that's how we separating it from the more in-depth on the anime So that's if you look on his hands and feet when he's sliding he's sliding on the energy with his own key dude I've never seen this watch it. You've never seen that watch watch it. See what you're

Okay, wait, wait, pause it, pause it, pause it, pause it. We need to explain what the fuck's going on. Okay. So I've seen the first episode of Super. That's all I saw. There was the tractor and he was an idiot again. I was like, what the fuck? So the Tournament of Power is there's eight different universes. Okay, I've seen clips of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they all have their best champions fighting in a tournament and everything.

Every time all the champions lose, your universe gets wiped from existence. So it's high stakes. Very. And Xeno just kills the entire universe. We probably need one of these to happen right now. We need to get reset. Yeah, I don't disagree.

Painless. So he's, Goku is fighting two, are they, they're not twins. Are they twins? No, they're sisters. They're sisters who are Saiyans from another universe. And he has taught them how to be more powerful. Cause Goku is like, I want to fight you. You're your strongest form. Yeah. Taught him how to go super Saiyan two. And then they use the earring thing to fuse together. And they're,

one's like a brawley so one's a legendary saiyan yeah that was the thing one's a legendary saiyan which is brawley that's the greenish yeah so those are once every period i think yeah one is that and she never could go super saiyan and she was a weaker fighter until she went fucking brawley activated it's a female brawley she's like this jack she's your mommy chick yeah yeah that's a mommy

- Girl, yeah. - Okay, okay, okay, okay. - She's fighting another Saiyan who, and Goku taught them how to be more powerful, and he's about to beat them, and then they fuse together with the earrings that let you fuse together, and now he's fighting the two of them, and they're kind of getting the edge on him. It's a close battle. He goes Super Saiyan.

to like Super Saiyan Blue and then he goes Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken and then he's fucking he's like I gotta like I gotta go better and it unlocks Ultra Instinct and this is like the last moment where he's like kind of beating them and they're like

Kefla's like, I'm throwing everything I got at you. And he's like, I'm ending this right now. So that's what's happening. So he's about to wipe their universe off the map. No, not this. Not their universe, but them. Oh, okay, okay, okay. So, and Ultra Instinct Goku is that, like, there is, it's not perfected yet, but the skill gap, the second he does that, he's much more powerful. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Watch this.

I'm getting goosebumps. I know, you're like "ah, the music!" Yeah, dude! And this is the first time he's done Kamehameha in this form. It's like a nuke of just energy everywhere. Freeza? Yeah. Oh, you gotta watch it, dawg. Watch his speed. So when he's hitting the electric hit, he's sliding on it. Oh, and you can't fly. That's an important part of the tournament. Oh, okay, okay. So she's like, "You can't dodge in midair 'cause he can't fly." So he- it's actually connecting with that. Dude, that's fucking nuts. Get fucked.

So if you get knocked off the platform, you're out. So anytime they do, they were breaking down a lot of those fights when he's ultra instinct. Anytime he's connecting energy, it's like, oh, how's he floating over it? You see little energy balls on his feet or his hand. So it's like they actually animated it. That's crazy. So we broke the earrings and then they're fucking out. I got to give a shout out to fucking yo. Who's this dude? Oh, yeah, dude.

Dude, that Tournament of Power. That was pretty cool. Tournament of Power is one of the best things they've done in the whole Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball, like fucking anything. Okay. Vegeta getting knocked out and then he gives his last energy to Goku. And it is, Goku is on the thing. Jiren, the most powerful dude, is beating everyone. Jiren's like untouchable other than Ultra and Goku. Jiren's the purple guy, right? Yes. Who taught him to not, don't think, you just move kind of thing. No, that was Ultra. No, that's, he's singing to Beerus. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

So Jiren's this bald alien. Okay. He's just like a jack dude. And he's on an island and Goku's standing there and Jiren's like, time to wipe it. He does this huge attack and then the energy starts breaking. The music kicks in. And then they're like, all the gods of destruction stand up. And they're like, is it happening? He's like, yeah. He's doing it. He's doing it. And they're all like, fuck, because no humans hit Ultra Instinct. All of them know instantly what's going on.

this dude's about to wipe everyone out. And then Jiren goes from a god to just getting bitch slapped across the... And then how it ends, bro? Like, just for how it ends... How many episodes are there? Just in the Tournament of Power. Or 30. Yeah, probably 30. How many episodes in the Super so far? Like, 120? That's not too bad. That's doable. It's doable. And even if you just watch... Don't talk to me for the next week. Like, Tournament of Power is so much fan service. Like, so many people pop off. How it ends...

It's just like, you're like, no fucking, like, I don't want to spoil it for you. Please don't. That was sick. That was cool. But I just, yeah, I got to give a shout to fucking in terms of breakdowns of scenes. This guy, uh,

fangito f-a-p-h-a-n-g-i-t-o he does breakdowns on youtube and tiktok and he's fucking so sick this is not paid for this is just someone i fucking love this is just someone i fucking how much did he give you five dollars he's giving me nothing but entertainment man this guy does breakdowns where he'll be like look at the scene he'd be like block block

block he like looks and he kicks here and he'll slow everything down go frame by frame on the breakdowns of each dragon ball fight and how it's made me appreciate how much work goes into these things way more there's so it's because you see a fight and it's just people going like just like they're flying all over the place but there's pause and as you're like what though they're like the animators see it scene by scene so they each thing happens specifically for a reason like it's so good

So good. And he makes it better. You're an ultra fucking weeb too. I'm not an ultra weeb. This guy outweaves me any day of the week. I mean, he outweaves everybody every day of the week.

But I really enjoy anime. There's very few animes I've watched that I haven't liked. I just, when it comes to entertainment, I only have so much time in the day. Yeah. And if I'm going to fault onto anything, I usually give that time to video games. Hell yeah. Before anything else. Like TV, which like anime and whether it's like anime or fucking HBO series, they're all kind of in the same realm for me. See, I'm about that there. I'll do TV shows or anime at the same, with something in there. Yeah.

Some form of fucking entertainment. Yeah. I want to watch Chainsaw Man because everyone said Chainsaw Man is sick. I got to finish it. Chainsaw Man. I've read that one. I still, I surprisingly only watch episode one. I've read the entire thing. So probably that I know what's going to happen. Yeah. It's like my hero.

is about to kick off i haven't finished this season but i know this is the good season where midoriya um he actually goes like hey i got a deco deckers i'm calling him midoriya yeah our boy deku leaves midoriya whose birthday is this and he yeah he's like i have to do this on my own yo i'm only on the end of season four well deku's like so this is i didn't know he's

You're not going to miss anything. So he leaves not as like, hey, he's doing it because... He's like, stop spoiling everything. No, no, no. It's fine. It's fine. I don't want to put people in danger. Yeah. And this is that dark... It's the dark era of like where he looks like fucking beat up Batman. He is battle worn. He's not...

Like everyone's like, what is he? They see him on glimpses of the news and it's like the top villains he's taking out instantly now. He is now like 100% like, oh yeah, dude, he is a hard ass. I'm back in guys. I'm back in. Whatever you think his power as you've seen so far, now it is fucking insane. Yeah, he is doing everything. I want a movie of my hero, but when they're like in their 30s.

Yeah, no, when they all have figured out their powers. Yeah, yeah. They're in their position. When everyone in the... Because the thing with the high school thing is they're all sort of like... Learning. Yeah. And as they get better, they... Like when... Fucking what's his name? When they had the thing where everyone's like stuck in that basement. I think it's season three and they're all fighting like unique villains. Like there's that guy who's...

Are they going through the hallway trying to get... Oh, it's the 100% window. The girl, Ellie. Ellie, he uses Ellie's power to go 100%. So it leads up to that. When the guy who can make himself a rock, like rock hard, he's with the fat dude. What does the rock dude look like when he's mastered his powers and he's deep in the game? That's what I want to see.

Like a UFC fighter when he's in between the age of 26 and 32. What does that look like for someone who has superpowers? He's been on his title run for four years. I want to see All Might. You want to see All Might? I want to see Deku. Where's the All Might series? That's what I want. Because right now, Deku, because he unlocked all his eight powers that come with One for All. One for All, yeah. Because One for All is like the strength thing, but then it's all the powers. There's eight hidden powers with it. All that, yeah.

Oh yeah, you get it. Dude, they're gonna have everything for you. It's not. That, thankfully, is nothing ruined. No, no, no. I'm just more into it now. Oh, God. Dude, the American hero. Batty, you don't even know the American hero. I do. I've read the manga for one. Okay. For my hero. That's the only one I'll read. Dude, it's too good. This guy's a fucking...

nerd reading manga. And he's like, I know, I know. It was so good. I had a bug in there. I have an app on my phone, okay? Is that not the most badass power though? Is that, like she has the most badass power. Okay, I gotta piss real quick. Possible. Go. I've like been trying

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Dude, you got that, man? Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

- Oh yeah. I listen to that when I work out sometimes. - Oh, Sam. - It's so good. - Do you watch anime AMVs when you work out? I do sometimes. - No, what are AMVs? - Anime music videos. - Oh no, no. - Bro, it has like God smack with some anime and you're like, fuck yeah, I'm working out. - I definitely listened to trailers, like the John Wick 4 trailer I watched a couple of times when I was dead lifting. It's like getting me so amped.

This goes out to you, Mr. Wecker. I'm like, he's unkillable. I'm glad we all have our thing when we work out.

When we work out. It's so much worse for me because you guys have been in the military and I've done like real man shit. I'm just a guy. Just a dude being a bro, man. Yeah. If he's a weeb, he'd be like, yeah, but I fucking can hit a man in the chest from 600 yards. I'm like, bro, I tell jokes sometimes. Ha ha.

I deadlifted 225 once. That's about as crazy as it gets, dude. Oh, man. I get moto from John Wick. It's real dope. I hate that you brought up AMVs because all I can think about now is like early 2000, me at my fucking school computer being like, oh, man, here's Naruto with Linkin Park playing in the background. Dragon Ball with Follow Me from Korn. Yeah. God. Dude. God smack. Dude.

I have all those AMVs saved from my, like, LimeWire or my Kazaa folder. You still have a folder. No, not anymore, but that's back in the day. I wish I could find it. Some of the nerdiest shit we've done. Some of the nerdiest shit. It's just...

Brutal. Brutal. Brutal, man. It was the dreams back then. That was all I wanted. Simpler times. You either got your video or you got a virus. Then you just held a magnet to your hard drive and then you started over. It was a simpler time. The poor family computer. Oh, dude.

Did you have a family computer? Oh, bro. I downloaded so much porn off of LimeWire onto that family computer. I had a bit where I would be like, it would go, ka-kang, ka-kang, ka-kang. I'm like, that's how you know it's a good one. Yeah, it's fucking, dude, the amount of porn you would download back and then the day. I remember the day. Oh, so long. The day I figured out how to hide folders on Windows.

That was, that was a game. I didn't even know about this. You can still do it. Like right now I have all my hidden folders visible because sometimes when you're fucking with like different types of video games, you actually have to go into like your hidden folders on your PC. Yeah. But like back in the day when I was like 15, 14 on the whole, on the, the, the,

the family computer in the living room. Yeah. You'd have like 18 folders and you'd have like pictures and different silly shit and all of them. But there was always that, that red hair, that fake one that was going all way too deep. And it was like hidden folder, hidden folder, hidden folder. Cause that did anything. Cause as soon as you unhide folders, it'd show the complete path to your porn. I like your shrine of hidden porn videos. But yeah,

The homework file, as people call it. Yeah. Homework one. 2022. Exactly. 12 terabytes. It's like, why is there so much? Batty, you're eight. Why do you have a taxes falter for taxes, mom and dad? Bro, I'm getting into stocks. I'm in the stock market right now already, dude. Don't ask me.

I'm playing a lot of Civ. I'm trying to make it realistic. Leave me alone. Yeah, dude. God. What video games are you playing right now? Right now? Oh, fuck what I'm in. I've been doing a lot of Fort, actually. Fort has been really good. Like, that's what we're streaming. The kids are calling it Fort. They're calling it Fort. They're calling it Fort. It was too much.

The knight part. Yeah. The knight. The fork knife action. It's a little too many syllables, but fort's really fucking sick. I'm having a lot of fun with that. Elden Ring's been really itching me to get back into because I'm seeing all the shit people are doing with these different builds and the PvP and shit, and people are still finding new shit to do, and I didn't get deep in the PvP, so I want to get into that. What's it called?

Zelda fucking Tears of the Kingdom. That's on the horizon. No, it's May. Okay. I was going to say that soon, right? Yeah. RE4 remake is out. You played it yet? Haven't played it. High five one more fucking time over there. I swear to God. I'm not.

I'm not in the mood to play it right now. I'm not in the mood because RE4 is very much. It's like you're in a passive role constantly. Like the crux of the game is feeling vulnerable and that tension. And that's not what I want to play right now. We talked about that because the scariest part was when I was the girl, Ashley. Yeah. And.

It is, you have no weapon. And I forgot about all those, I forgot about them fucking. - Oh yeah, for sure. - I'm playing a brand new game at this point. All the TBI experience between there. I'm like, oh man, this is great. Leon, I remember him, nothing else. But when you are on the Ashley part, it was the first time I was like, oh fuck. Like streaming, I'm running. - Why did you have to do this? - Because Ashley runs like this. She's like, oh my God, Leon.

and she's running so useless and it is so absolutely terrifying not having a weapon that is all it takes for me in a video game don't if I'm not allowed to have a weapon I am absolutely terrified yeah oh for sure you're completely on the defensive your only role is like hiding I but I am there's certain moments that game I'm really excited to replay when you fight that I think his name is

or something. Yeah, the little... Yeah, the little Napoleon kid. He sends one of his bodyguards after you and you fight him in a basement and you knock over these nitrogen tanks and they freeze him and you just blast him with a shotgun and it's right before you get like the barrel shotgun. That, for whatever reason, that boss battle is like super...

zone into my head because they're like these big juggernauts have like scorpion tails and shit and freezing them and they're like and just blast him with a shotgun felt so satisfying the tension is so high and you're like where's the tank where is it you're running and they're like crawling on the roof and shooting their tail at you it was so fun but i just uh everything i've been craving recently has been i want to feel like a badass

And so that doesn't make you really, it kind of does, but not in the same way. No, it's, it's, it's a really good game so far. I'm enjoying it. Haven't beat it yet. Uh, people are already finding out little dumb secrets with it. It's hilarious. And, uh, leveling up the guns, all that dumb shit. Yeah. It's just going through it, having a fun time. It just feels like a fun time. It's great. All I care for. I'm like, ah, you know what? I mean,

what? I'm enjoying this. I'm going to beat this thing. As much as people didn't like 5, I really hope they remake 5. I just want to watch them punch the boulder again, you know? Oh, that's the one where he's like, the jumping of the shark. That was when they considered Resident Evil Jump the Shark. It was an action game at that point. To be fair,

As much as it is a terrible survival horror game, it's a great video game. Yeah. It's me and my buddy played through that entire game because you do it co-op, plays the whole game co-op. It was so fucking fun. And you were just like, you're shooting people blasting as a co-op like action game. Amazing. But as a survival horror game, it doesn't really. Wasn't ideal. Yeah. If they just took the name, everyone would love that.

They just renamed it to like Capcom's like Leon's Revenge. You'd be like, oh, this is dope. If it was like an offshoot, it wasn't like mainline Resident Evil, but they called it like, yeah, Resident Evil, whatever fucking Chris Redfield is a boner. Like it would have been fucking. Oh, yeah. Chris Redfield. Yeah. Do you remember the controversy with that game? Well, because it was in Africa. So it's like you're shooting black people. Yeah, it was Chris Redfield. So there was an entire fucking shit show because of that. Yeah. Nothing else. It was just like, yeah.

But it's like also, I don't know, they're zombies, bro. Like, what do you want? Zombies can be black too? Yeah, and then when you wake up... Zombies can be black too, my dog. Be inclusive. Be inclusive! Anybody can be a zombie, man. Anyone can be a zombie, dog. You're like, this game's not racist. What's this ghost costume you unlocked? Well, first off...

Ghosts don't have pointy heads. It's still weird. But yeah, I remember that. That was when that whole drama show. I was like, wait, what? That was like way back before canceling was even a thing. And that did just kind of blow over because like that game, that was until six. That was the best. When did that come out? Because I am not plugged into Resident Evil. I wasn't plugged into Resident Evil until like seven. No, before that. I was playing that in high school. Oh my God, 2009?

2009 or 8 is for sure. For sure. PS3. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. PS3, Xbox 360 era. We're talking about PS3 like it was a long time ago. Because I remember when the PS3 came out, I was like, damn, that's so new. Yeah, dude. Because I stopped. It's over 10 years ago. And I went over to Xbox after that. Yeah. So like the PS3 came out, I was like, damn, I can't afford that. Yeah. In my head, it's still new to me because I never jumped on the PlayStation game after. That's 17 years ago. Holy crap.

I jumped on PlayStation 3 game late, late. 17 years is fucking wild. Bro, 17 years ago is when that came out. In 2005.

Yeah, 2005. Yeah. Yeah. Going on 18 years. Yeah. Oh, my. Oh, my. I thought the Nintendo was 10 years ago. Oh, and he has like at least. Oh, my heart hurts. What's your guys opinion on a new switch? They keep saying that there's going to be like a switch pro or two or some shit. Yeah. Yeah.

I hate graphics or what? Yeah. Like updated graphics because like the last system. Yeah. Better system. Last Pokemon game was like kind of jank. So it's like so jank. It was fun, but it was like the fuck people say it's amazing, but you get on a hill and you turn to like, look at the skybox. It's like, yeah, fucking everything's like, here's your 10 frames per second. Yeah, it was.

Which is crazy. We were just talking about like PS3. That system's way more powerful than a PS3. Oh, yeah. And it's in our hair. We're like, fuck, this sucks. Yeah. Our childhood, we would have been in fucking Cloud 9. And PlayStation is apparently working on a handheld console right now.

So like something that might be akin to like a Steam Deck or something. PS Vita, is that what it was back in the day? More powerful. Steam Deck is, I mean, Steam Deck, a lot of people were happy for the price point and everything you got from it. I think what they're going to try and do, because the problem with the Vita was the Vita had no support.

So it's like you need to make Vita specific games where I think this, whatever it's going to be, is more like a Steam Deck where whatever you play on your PS5, you can play on this fucking thing. No shit. Okay. It's like what the Switch can do. Yeah. But I don't know if they'll do it because PSVR just bombed. PSVR 2 just bombed. So I don't know if we're getting anything like that. Yeah, if they're going to really push the envelope anymore. VR is a hard one because it is an amazing space. It's still so early though. I don't think it's going to kick...

like I think it's going to 10 years when it becomes cheap and good. Yes. Same time. You need the killer app. I have more faith in AR right now than VR. So yeah. Yeah. Augmented is it seems I think the benefit of augmented is that it

It has more applications outside of video games. Not that VR doesn't. But like I could see people in a boardroom being like, hey, we're going to do this. And like there's all this shit that pops up around them. I mean, as a fucking D&D nerd, that is like my dream. Oh, yeah, dude. I'm meant to be crazy in D&D. Fuck, dude. I didn't even think about that.

Like me trying to build terrain. Like, cause I, my big thing with D and D I hate doing it online. I'm an in-person guy. I love building like three terrain and models. So I can be like, this is where you guys are fighting. And it gives people like a little bit more immersion in that stuff. Being like, yeah, this is where you're fighting. And like a mountain or a city shows up and it's not me like swiping through like, because a lot of people do like the TV screen in the table, but it's all 2d it's top down. Imagine. Yeah.

and you need to move your character. And you have the individual squares of where you can move and it's like, oh, this elevation, so this is like a move and a half or two moves or something. Oh my God, dude. And all that shit, like being in that space, you'll be able to build like through Unreal Engine 5. Like in Unreal Engine, people can make models like here's a mountain, here's this. And you can...

either purchase that or just use it and then just build shit in that world. And like what they're doing in Fortnite 2.0 and shit. Creative. No, what are they calling it? Fortnite. I think it's Creative 2.0.

I thought they were calling it like Fortnite something engine. FNE or Fortnite something engine. I don't know. But it's all in Unreal Engine 5. It's unreal how beautiful, like the things people are making with it already. Because if you build an asset, you'd say if I'm a artist, I'll build a tree. And then I can put that tree on the market. And every time you use that tree, I get money. Oh, so it's like the Counter-Strike skins. Well, but it's an asset in the...

But you can download it. It's not like a roll. It'd be like, instead of a skin for a gun, it'd be like you made a part of a map. Yes. Yeah, you can use it. Yeah, yeah, so... But it pays back to the person who created it. So then you can just be like, I can put all the shit. Back when I was in high school, I was in 3D modeling, animation. I used to do all that stuff, and then I was, eh, army. But...

I made a bunch of like models of like really high rendered. We are a high, high definition, like wheels and, and, and like rims. And I did like, like a, what is it called? They were, Oh my God. I can't think of the word where we're something, a rigged model of people moving. And I put all this up on a website called turbo squid. And for the last, like,

15 years, I've made like two bucks, four bucks every couple of months because somebody will download something or a submarine was my big one. I made a full like Russian nuclear submarine that could actually like have torpedoes launched out of it. Still make money off this shit. So like being, you know, something I did in 2007, 2008, the thought of that being the exact same process now, but with much better tools.

make some fucking money people like learn this stuff way more simplistic yeah oh my god like trying to render in 3ds max or or

Maya or whatever the fuck it was the stuff people are gonna make is gonna be wild like the the fortnight creative the problem with a lot of like crowdfunded games or Crowdsourced games is that you don't have the audience in order to support something that's really good. That's what makes fucking Roblox so good. Yes roblox has a community that's massive So anytime someone makes something that's good. There's an audience to support it. You have for it. I just gonna have the same thing with you

even better tools to create like unreal tools who knows like you don't you need no fucking job you don't need to go through fucking game development school in order to make shit and then you're going to be able to go in this world and create something just off of your own fucking creativity and it's going to be

fucking bonkers. It reminds me of like when the Halo Forge came out for the first. I think it was called Forge, right? When you could make your own maps and all that shit when Halo 3 dropped and it was like the craziest thing. But now it's not just you can't, you're not just making stuff in Halo, you're making stuff

for anything. I mean, like I was saying in Counter-Strike of CS Italy, like all those are fair made. Yeah. League of Legends. League of Legends is an option. Oh, yeah. Like all those, like one of the biggest games in the world. Trinket Mirror.

Oh, who is the creators? Tryndamere, Ryze, and who's the last League creator? Bro, I didn't even know these to begin with. So those characters, the Tryndamere characters, like those are named after the three founders of League.

League of Legends. Oh, really? So they broke off and they built that from World of Warcraft 3. I think so, yeah. The heroes was like a hero base because you had your heroes in Warcraft and it was like, what if we only had heroes and we're battling each other? And this is the lane and this is how it works. And that is how those three individuals started it. They're like, oh, let's do this. And now... One, maybe the biggest game in the world. Oh, fuck yeah. I'm going to say without a doubt, like maybe sometimes you have things like Counter-Strike

but money yeah oh yeah yeah it's like everything you have like dota 2 then league where it's like hey this is where the pros play this is where we sell out arenas of 120 000 seats yes and you augmented reality shows dude dude if you could and that's another thing augment reality get into that like you can watch it i league is something that i've wanted to get into more no stop we were talking about like so

Leon and Houston Jones, we were talking about League today. It's like the two most toxic games possible. Rocket League and League of Legends. And then that's your nighttime. You will not go to bed. You're just angry. I love toxic environments in games. What I love when you start to get the ball rolling, you steamroll. When you get it. Yeah, when you get it. For whatever reason, the character Broodmother in Dota just speaks to me.

Like broodmother, all broodmother does is kind of like lays web in a lane and then we'll just take over a lane. And if you come in, it's like you get fucked. And it's like you just, broodmother is such a strong tool, always gets banned. And if you don't ban her, it's like, well, then I fucking, you're not using the fucking bottom lane. I'll tell you that much. Because I own this bitch. See, league is just toxic. It's like, oh, I'm a fucking god now. But then like ADC or someone feeds or they're just like,

I've got to go take the trash out. Bye. You just see, it's like four out of five. And you're like, we cannot visit. If you lose a player now, you cannot win a game. So, and it's up your 40 minutes in this game. And then someone DCs or something. And you're like fucking dope. I've wasted 40 minutes of my goddamn life. How long the games last is, is like one of my favorite and least favorite aspects of it. Because like,

Because I've dabbled League on and off for years now, and it's like... 20 minutes to an hour and a half. Dude, when you get into one of those long games, though, and you win, it is the greatest feeling ever. You fucking suck. I think you fucking suck. You're like, I did it! It feels like you fucking won a battle, and then when you lose, you're like...

I've wasted so much time of my fucking life. Yeah, dude. And you got to find the right character to play with, what lane you play in best and all this kind of stuff. Even more so than you're like, okay, but if I play this character, what are my counters? Or what if they're probably going to play these characters because those are OP right now. So I got to find the counters for those characters. It's why so many people just play League because it's like, oh, it's a lifestyle. It is.

It's like trying to become a bodybuilder or something. You're like, it's everything. Every time I eat, every time I sleep, every time I leave the house, I'm thinking about League. That's all I'm thinking about. I gave eternal...

nse ns eternal he's a kid when i just started streaming he i was stream league from time to time he's like hey i remember those days can i uh you can we play together and i was i was like no i'm not playing with any of you or anything and then when he was i came in and he's like hey can we play sometime we'd love to play we could do like ranked or something i was like maybe what what rank are you he's like oh well like diamond on this account masters on the other i'm like

what the fuck kid you're in like the top so it's like masters is the very top like top 500 or something yeah and then diamond is also at the fucking top so i was like well hold on you just want and he's young kid he was very young at that point he's probably 17 like doing chores at house and then he's like hey let's play i'll help you in rank watching this kid he's like i'll start a new account

Started a new account. Yeah, he started a new account. I'm like, oh, let's work up through the ranks. And I'm doing top and I'm a very good top player. And then I'm just watching him like 18 and 0, 20 minutes. And he's like, okay, we can win. I'm like, what? We can win. What the fuck, bro? I'm going to do trash. We got to win real quick, guys. Here.

And watching him just murder the map as a jungle and watching how he plays. He's just like, okay, I slayed everyone down. And then he's back up top somehow already. And he's keeping, he's like, no, you need to go here, Eli. Okay, ready? One, two, three. He's like counting it. He's sending me videos I don't watch. He's like, oh, you're doing your farming wrong. What you need is a step forward back. It creates a space. So that way they can push towards tower land. I'm like, you're min-maxing me. Yeah.

Yeah. No, I've, I've made a decision that I, I eventually, I made a decision that I'm like, I, I, one day I want to get good, like a high level at a game. I,

I want to play a game at a high competitive level. And I've made a decision that's going to be Pokemon. Because I'm like, Pokemon, it's all strategy. It's like, I don't need that quick Twitch reaction movement that I'm like, I don't know if I've ever had. Too old for it. But Pokemon, I'm like, I can outstudy these kids. And maybe I'll get in their heads and I'll be like, you ain't shit like fucking talk shit. I'll break you emotionally. Then you're going to make a mistake. And I'll be your new stepdad. Yeah. So I'm like, Pokemon, I think,

Not that it's, I'm not saying it's going to be easy to get good at Pokemon, but it has something that I think, I think,

benefits my skill set better than like a Counter-Strike. Have you started your Pokemon journey yet? I haven't started. I'm going to buy a Switch soon because Breath of the... or Tears of the Kingdom is coming out. So Tears of the Kingdom is coming out. I'm going to be getting that. I'm going to get the new Pokemon. I'm going to start my journey. I'm going to start studying because I know that leveling and EV... It sounds like you're going to call... I'm going to start studying. I'm going to start my journey. Before you even become a good doctor. No, I'm getting into Pokemon. I'm getting good at it, dude. Before you do any of that, go online and go to Pokemon Showdown.

Pokemon Showdown. What's Pokemon Showdown? It's a website where you can do competitive battles. Okay, okay. That's all it is. It's nothing but competitive battles. You have access to everything, all the items. All the Pokemon and everything. And it's just like you can set their IVs, their EVs. Oh, so you can set, so you don't even need to have the Pokemon. No, it's literally just the battle simulator. It's for competitive players to get better. To get better.

Yeah, you can shut the fuck up about ever making fun of me with manga. With that website alone, you can never say anything. Just look up SMAGON, S-M-A-G-O-N. It's the competitive where it's got all the stats for all the best Pokemon. Bro, I've done this! You're calling me a nerd? You're like, have you ever heard of this website where you can min-mac Pokemon? I was an overnight security guard and all I did was play competitive Pokemon. I have dabbled.

So then I will get into this because I'm like, that is something I want to do at a high level. I think I can do it at a high level. No, I'm not saying like best in the world, but enough. So you're like, Oh yeah. Go to a VD, VD, VDC, VGC real tournament and just smoke some fucking kids. Maybe win a few. It'll be a cry. Yeah. Make a like fucking just crush like some fucking 12 year old kid who means a lot to him. I'll give a fuck. I'm not going to play ever again after this is on my bucket list. Now,

Now cry. Now cry. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm all about it. Dude. I've only had like, I'm decent at first-person shooters. It's like, eh, we're in like Diamond Elo, I think, in Warzone right now. But the only games, as I say, it's racing games are the only things. It's like, hey, you're competitive at like world level. Yeah. Only thing. Racing games. Really? Sim racing. Sim racing. Not arcade. Like sim racing.

Always top 250 in the world. Really? Those are the only ones where I'm like, I can compete at this. And it is a weird thing to be good at. But have you been using your, don't you have a racing sim set up? Have you been using it? No, in the last couple of months. When I was doing it, it took me one week to get within like 0.05 seconds of the world record on that track. And the stream was like, Jesus fuck, bro. You're not joking. I was like, for whatever reason, I'm really good at these. Plugged in. Yeah. It's just my, the tits and brain. I don't know if I'm that good at any games.

Tis and Burns is like, okay. Got it. You want Modafinil or something? You taking those Hillary Clinton drugs? Dude, then I can break world records. Dude, if he's doing this sub-Modafinil, we got to get this guy juiced up. There's no laws against this shit yet. Wait, what is it? You don't know about Modafinil?

Go on. Oh, modafinil is like, it's basically they perfected Ritalin. It's like, Jorogun's talked about this a bunch. It's a focused drug that it's non-addictive, but it gives you like super hyper, like fucking laser focused. Yeah.

What was that movie with fucking... Limitless. Limitless, yes! They call it the Limitless drug. The military, I think, developed it and they were giving it to the fighter pilots and they started hitting their targets like 30, 40% better. Like, it was fucking crazy. And you can get it like street level now. Do you call it street level? When I hear street level, I'm like... If I can get it, it's street level. Let's just say that.

Modafinil. He's like, I'm taking my... But then also, I don't know if what I'm getting is what they're getting, you know? But it is wild. It's a wild substance. And it's like... I'm so much better at Destiny after this. Oh, dude, you'll get way better. Man, I took a Modafinil before, not a whole one, just like a quarter before I played Fall Guys.

So me and my buddy did. My man's got a performance hand in drugs for Fall Guys. We did like a Modafinil stream, like where we're like, let's try it out and see if we're better at video games. We drink White Claws. We did a Modafinil stream. And I've never won a crown before in Fall Guys ever. And I won two back to back. I was like, I'm in the fucking zone, man. Oh!

fall guy you did not look at chat once i bet you were like and i'm like fucking grabbing and like get the fuck out of here and your head the camera is just like the rainbow zooming by you your eyes are darting around pre-planning everything we got to get this guy on the daffodil for sure

I don't know what they're calling it for a slang, but we can make it here today. We're going to make the Dapinel. You got some matchbox heads, some gasoline. We're doing this. It's a wild one. Yeah, apparently Hillary Clinton and all these high up people take that stuff regularly. There's a lot of big...

like health influencers who are like, oh yeah, I take that all the time. I'm not surprised. A lot of times, like with my ADHD and everything else I do, like when I actually use Ritalin or whatever it is, what's not Ritalin? What's it called now? Adderall. Adderall. It's because I'm very bad. Heroin? Yeah. Heroin? Black tar heroin? The VA will, the VA gives you everything. Oh yeah. That sounds really good. I'll get some ice real quick.

Definitely I need a peanut butter sandwich after this. *laughter* I need some white bread. Yeah. Jack Daniels gold maple wood finish. It's the nice one. It's actually a good- I mixed it with my McDonald's Coke. Can I have the rest of that Coke? I'll fucking ruin this really expensive thing. Honestly, McDonald's Coke is great Coke. That's syrup fucking fountain Coke. That's what I'm saying! You mix it with the 27 Jack Daniels? Dude, that's how you eat it. Or drink it.

really good but no with um the va will just pump you full of whatever so yeah and riddling or whatever we're calling adderall was the first time i'm like taking i was like oh this is how a normal brain functions yeah i'm not like sit down i'm like i need to do this vfx oh i need to do this oh i need to do this and then i'm doing a billion things someone walks in they're like hi i'm like that's gone now i gotta focus on this but i wonder if it's like like normal brain in quotations it's like

So say if you were like ADHD and you're out in the wilderness. That'd be crazy. That'd be so crazy if any of us were. But you're out there and you're hunting and you hear a fucking...

you like fucking turn you're listening and you hear your birds and you're like focusing on all these things simultaneously that probably would be very advantageous so i think it's the ptsd is essentially from war i'm this war no well it's not even a joke so what happens is hyper visual it's getting stilled from life or death situations when you are in a combat environment for extended constant yeah yeah constant

It's hypervigilance. You have to focus on every little detail. And then when you get back, that's why it's like dudes with it. And when you go to the therapist, they're like, oh, you can't untrain that. You have to live with that. Your body wants it happens.

It stays. You just have to modify everything around it. So I'm like, it's not like it's I don't I don't think it's the brain doing anything wrong. Like you give you drugs like, oh, you're not you can't focus. It's like, no, bitch, I can focus. I'm just focusing on everything that needs to be focused on simultaneously. It's the idea that you need to be able to sit and look at one thing for eight hours in a row that that's the that's the unnatural thing.

Oh, yeah, I agree with that fully where it's just like I need to focus on a screen for eight hours and be completely crazy and not deviate from it because I, as you say, it is the...

normal attention span will just want to go look at something and say i'm bored i'm gonna do this instead exactly exactly but it is nice when you can just focus on that one it is for eight hours i've never taken a ritalin or adderall and i really feel like it might be great for my brain at some point or another it's peaceful this is into me i don't know about i've i've never been diagnosed with adhd but when people describe it i go oh i just thought that's how our brain

I thought that's how I was. Yeah, like someone said once, they're like, oh, boredom is pain. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's my whole life is just never trying to be bored. That's how I motivate. That's my motivation. Yeah. Right? You go fucking, if you go stir crazy, if you're not working or doing something, you're like failing. Yeah. I'm going to die. Literally, my brain is like, we're going broke next week. I am going to be poor and homeless. My son's going to dig for crack. Yeah.

I don't know. Outside of the medical assistance, meditation has helped me with that. And almost the, not almost the biggest way meditation, being able to create the barrier to understand that your thoughts aren't real.

that like everything that passes through your brain is within the elements of your brain. And so that you can like, say if someone bumped, like I had something happen to me in Tempe, I was walking down the street and there was a group of people walking in a line of four. And I was looking at my phone. I wasn't paying attention. And then I look up and we, I almost bump into one of them and they went, watch where you're going. And I was like, you're walking in a line of four.

Like you could, I'm on the end of you. You guys could like consolidate into two for a moment and then go back into four. And I immediately got angry. And I was like, I was like, if you, the meditation thing was like, if you think about this and you let this consume you, you're going to think about it all day.

Just let it go. Just let it go. This thought that you're having, that you're trying to let impact your physical self doesn't exist. And you're just going to let it go. And then it wasn't until I think I did two shows that night. It was after the second show. I was like, I remembered it. And I was like, Oh,

like i didn't think about that at all did it could have just bought them though like what if you just fought them all i just went like you started swinging i need to watch those four women would have been hurt it was four women too just start fucking thank you for watching the unsubscribe podcast as always

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