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Can Roe Be Reinstated?

2024/6/20
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V Spear和Sammy Sage:就Lisa Lerer和Elizabeth Dias的新书《罗诉韦德案的陨落:新美国的崛起》进行讨论,探讨了反堕胎团体多年来为推翻罗诉韦德案所做的努力,以及此事件对美国政治和社会的影响。他们还探讨了政治如何改变宗教,以及这如何影响最近的选举。 Lisa Lerer和Elizabeth Dias:她们认为推翻罗诉韦德案不仅仅关乎堕胎本身,更关乎女性在美国民主中的角色,以及保守派基督教少数派与希望保持现状的多数派之间的冲突。她们详细描述了现代宗教右翼女性的观点和动机,她们将反堕胎运动视为一场重大的道德之战,并将其与民权运动和废除奴隶制相提并论。她们还分析了政治如何改变宗教,以及反堕胎运动在过去十年中是如何随着共和党的激进化而变得更加激进的。她们认为,反堕胎运动的成功在于他们控制了权力机构,而非仅仅改变了公众舆论。她们还探讨了美国堕胎权争论的激烈程度与欧洲不同,这与美国独特的政治制度、文化背景以及对国家认同的多种解读有关。她们最后建议,为了维护堕胎权,支持者需要采取更积极的策略,例如参与地方政治,推动州一级立法,这需要长期努力。 Lisa Lerer和Elizabeth Dias:她们详细分析了反堕胎运动的策略,指出其成功并非依赖单一策略,而是多方面因素共同作用的结果,其中包括对“堕胎”一词的回避,以及对女性在美国社会角色的更深层次问题的忽视。她们认为,虽然去污名化堕胎很重要,但这并不是反堕胎运动成功的关键。她们还探讨了共和党对计划生育的立场变化,以及对历史人物的利用,反映了美国政治的复杂性和非线性发展。她们还分析了特朗普当选总统后,保守派基督徒对宗教信仰和政治优先级的认识发生了变化,这导致了教会内部的冲突和一些信徒的出走。她们最后指出,2013年白人基督徒在美国人口中所占比例下降到少数,这加剧了他们对社会变革的抵触情绪,并对随后的政治发展产生了影响。

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The overturning of Roe v. Wade has significantly shifted the political landscape, galvanizing abortion rights supporters and raising fundamental questions about women's role in American society. The symbolic meaning of this fight resonates deeply with many, leading to increased political engagement and a realignment of political priorities.
  • The overturning of Roe v. Wade has led to a significant shift in political engagement, with abortion rights supporters becoming more politically active.
  • The debate surrounding abortion rights reflects broader questions about women's role in American society and the future direction of the country.
  • The use of the word "abortion" and the destigmatization of the procedure have been key strategies in the abortion rights movement, but they haven't been enough to prevent the legal restrictions imposed by the anti-abortion movement.

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**00:00 **Sami and V are joined by authors Lisa Lerer & Elizabeth Dias of the new book The Fall of Roe: the Rise Of A New America, to discuss the decades of work done by anti-abortion groups to finally overturn Roe.

**11:00 **V wonders if American politicians had been more comfortable with using the word ‘abortion’ and didn’t shy away from these conversations, would it have been harder for conservatives to chip away at reproductive rights?

**20:20 **Everyone knows that religion affects politics, but less discussed is how politics has actually changed religion, and how that has played into recent elections.

**24:20 **Can Roe be put back? Lisa and Elizabeth’s book theorizes about how we go about getting our reproductive rights back.

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