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2024/3/8
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
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Chamath Palihapitiya
以深刻的投资见解和社会资本主义理念而闻名的风险投资家和企业家。
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David Sacks
一位在房地产法和技术政策领域都有影响力的律师和学者。
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Jason Calacanis
一位多才多艺的美国互联网企业家、天使投资人和播客主持人，投资过多家知名初创公司，并主持多个影响广泛的播客节目。
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Sunny Madra
Chamath Palihapitiya：Elon Musk起诉OpenAI，认为OpenAI违反了合同、受托责任和不正当竞争，OpenAI从非营利组织转变为营利性组织，利用非营利性税收优惠，同时又保留了双重公司结构。这不仅涉及到Elon Musk个人的利益受损，更重要的是OpenAI的做法暴露了美国税收体系中的漏洞，这将对美国税收系统产生重大影响，并可能激励其他公司效仿。
Jason Calacanis：Elon Musk认为OpenAI违背了最初的承诺，将一个旨在推广开源技术的非营利组织转变为封闭的营利性企业，并质疑这种做法是否会成为其他公司规避税收的标准。他认为OpenAI的行为是对其捐款的欺骗，并质疑其转变为营利性组织的合法性。
David Sacks：OpenAI公布的邮件显示，Elon Musk认可了设立营利性子公司的必要性，以便通过筹集外部资金来支持其非营利性目标。OpenAI的非营利和营利结构类似于风险慈善模式，关键在于非营利组织是否仍然从事慈善事业。他认为OpenAI面临两难境地：既要满足营利性需求，又要维护其非营利性身份。创新公司结构通常会带来法律问题，建议使用传统的公司结构。对OpenAI事件最悲观的解读是：OpenAI将开源项目封闭，筹集资金，然后在几年内将数十亿美元的收益装进员工口袋，违背了其最初的公益使命。
Deep Dive
Elon Musk sued OpenAI, alleging breach of contract, fiduciary duty, and unfair competition. He claims OpenAI deviated from its original open-source, non-profit mission, benefiting financially while utilizing non-profit tax breaks. The lawsuit sparked debate about OpenAI's structure, the potential tax implications, and the role of Elon Musk in OpenAI's transformation.
- Elon Musk donated a substantial sum to OpenAI initially.
- OpenAI transitioned from open-source to closed-source and from non-profit to for-profit.
- OpenAI's structure involves a for-profit entity with Microsoft holding a minority stake and the majority owned by a holding company.
- The holding company's ownership is split between the non-profit, employees, and investors.
- A key question is how much of the for-profit entity the non-profit actually owns and what charitable work the non-profit still conducts.
- Elon Musk's lawsuit raises concerns about potential misuse of non-profit status and tax implications.
- The lawsuit also highlights the role and influence of large tech companies like Microsoft in the AI field.
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